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PostPosted: 05/13/18 8:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So is Akhator the biggest lottery pick bust?

Chantelle Anderson from Vandy anyone?


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SDHoops wrote:
toad455 wrote:
So is Akhator the biggest lottery pick bust?

Chantelle Anderson from Vandy anyone?


Well, the lottery didn't start until 2010, so.... Plus Anderson did play 5 seasons in the league(2003-2007.)



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PostPosted: 05/13/18 9:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Zahui B.


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Zahui B.


she's played three seasons [so far]. Still a better accomplishment than Akhator.



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PostPosted: 05/13/18 9:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Zahui B.


she's played three seasons [so far]. Still a better accomplishment than Akhator.


Higher draft pick with greater expectations....3.6p/2.3r/40%fg in 8.9mpg.

How many people thought Akhator would be a starter in the WNBA?......Zahui B on the other hand...


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PostPosted: 05/13/18 9:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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SDHoops wrote:
toad455 wrote:
So is Akhator the biggest lottery pick bust?

Chantelle Anderson from Vandy anyone?


Well, the lottery didn't start until 2010, so.... Plus Anderson did play 5 seasons in the league(2003-2007.)


The lottery started in 2002.



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PostPosted: 05/13/18 9:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Zahui for sure some thought she was number one pick worthy Laughing probably would have been the top pick if Loyd didn’t declare early.


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Doesn’t being the biggest reach also make you the biggest bust?

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui than say KML?



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Akhator and Hamblin waived

Thought they'd give Akhator another year at least, but kudos on essentially admitting to making a huge mistake.


Yay!



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PostPosted: 05/13/18 10:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Just goes to show how stacked DAL is this season


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Wow! On paper, the Wings look like the team to beat with the freshest legs.


Maybe. Maybe not. I tend to doubt it, although I'll root for Dallas because of Chong and Stevens.

I've proposed only one trade ever on RebKell -- back in 2005 or so, which would have been league changing -- but I now think there's one trade that would dramatically improve Dallas:

Fred Williams for a cinder block.
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PostPosted: 05/13/18 10:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Doesn’t being the biggest reach also make you the biggest bust?

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui then say KML?


To me, a bust is a player who had high expectations coming into the league and came nowhere close to meeting them.
A reach didn't have as high of expectations, otherwise the basement wouldn't have considered the team crazy to have drafted the player as high as they did, so if they fail, that doesn't make them as much of a bust.


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PostPosted: 05/13/18 10:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Akhator and Hamblin waived

Thought they'd give Akhator another year at least, but kudos on essentially admitting to making a huge mistake.


Yay!


I feel bad for a player who the team's biggest fan's favorite moment of her was when she got waived. 😭


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PostPosted: 05/13/18 10:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I've proposed only one trade ever on RebKell -- back in 2005 or so, which would have been league changing -- but I now think there's one trade that would dramatically improve Dallas:

Fred Williams for a cinder block.

No deal.

One of those is actually of some value. The other is Fred Williams. Unless Fred Williams would be willing to lay down behind my boat trailer to keep it from rolling backwards, then I suppose....



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You may not like him as a coach but Fred is a truly nice guy. And I'm pretty sure his players like him.



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PostPosted: 05/13/18 11:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
Doesn’t being the biggest reach also make you the biggest bust?

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui then say KML?


To me, a bust is a player who had high expectations coming into the league and came nowhere close to meeting them.
A reach didn't have as high of expectations, otherwise the basement wouldn't have considered the team crazy to have drafted the player as high as they did, so if they fail, that doesn't make them as much of a bust.


One kind of bust is the front office bust of drafting Akhator too high when she was projected much lower. Otherwise, agreeing with the above statement of high player expectations not met. Then there are those drafted like Butler and Goodwin, good players who don't fall into the bust category, moreso just didn't make it due to the team is deeper than a couple of years ago.


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Shades wrote:
Doesn’t being the biggest reach also make you the biggest bust?

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui then say KML?


To me, a bust is a player who had high expectations coming into the league and came nowhere close to meeting them.
A reach didn't have as high of expectations, otherwise the basement wouldn't have considered the team crazy to have drafted the player as high as they did, so if they fail, that doesn't make them as much of a bust.


The team that picked Shaqhator at #3 surely had high expectations of her or they’d be a Miller to pick her that high.

Shaq being gone after one season of little use has to near the top of futility in recent times. Maybe someone will still pick her up and she can revive her career, so this talk may be premature.

Anybody remember the #2 pick in 2007, Jessica Davenport?
Or how about the #1 pick in 2003, LaToya Thomas?



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You may not like him as a coach but Fred is a truly nice guy. And I'm pretty sure his players like him.

The thing about a nice person who is incompetent is that they are still incompetent.



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Shades wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
Doesn’t being the biggest reach also make you the biggest bust?

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui then say KML?


To me, a bust is a player who had high expectations coming into the league and came nowhere close to meeting them.
A reach didn't have as high of expectations, otherwise the basement wouldn't have considered the team crazy to have drafted the player as high as they did, so if they fail, that doesn't make them as much of a bust.


The team that picked Shaqhator at #3 surely had high expectations of her or they’d be a Miller to pick her that high.

Shaq being gone after one season of little use has to near the top of futility in recent times. Maybe someone will still pick her up and she can revive her career, so this talk may be premature.

Anybody remember the #2 pick in 2007, Jessica Davenport?
Or how about the #1 pick in 2003, LaToya Thomas?


LaToya Thomas was actually effective in cleveland she just happened to be in a draft with a stallion by the name of Cheryl Ford.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
Doesn’t being the biggest reach also make you the biggest bust?

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui then say KML?


To me, a bust is a player who had high expectations coming into the league and came nowhere close to meeting them.
A reach didn't have as high of expectations, otherwise the basement wouldn't have considered the team crazy to have drafted the player as high as they did, so if they fail, that doesn't make them as much of a bust.


The team that picked Shaqhator at #3 surely had high expectations of her or they’d be a Miller to pick her that high.

Shaq being gone after one season of little use has to near the top of futility in recent times. Maybe someone will still pick her up and she can revive her career, so this talk may be premature.

Anybody remember the #2 pick in 2007, Jessica Davenport?
Or how about the #1 pick in 2003, LaToya Thomas?


LaToya Thomas was actually effective in cleveland she just happened to be in a draft with a stallion by the name of Cheryl Ford.

Yeah she was ok for a while. Certainly not the first name I'd think of when the topic of draft busts is raised. (My go-to is typically Tausha Mills. Not technically a lottery pick, but a #2 overall pick)
Having a nickname that involves "Shaq" doesn't seem to be a great omen for WNBA success.



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PostPosted: 05/14/18 4:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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You may not like him as a coach but Fred is a truly nice guy. And I'm pretty sure his players like him.


It doesnt help their defense though..



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So they cut both akhator and Hamblin. It seems to me that the Breanna Lewis v. Hamblin decision came right down to the wire. In the 3d Q after the bogus O fouls on Liz they went with Hamblin 1st. That was when they tied it up. Then the Wings swapped Ruth for Breanna and there was a clear swing in momentum. We had discussed how much stronger and faster she appeared during the game. I think this last trial may have seen Breanna play her way into the team this season.


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I’m also excited about the development of Chong. Defensively she has some great instincts. And on offense she seems much steadier in not letting the pesky William get to her. She created a good looking shot on 2 occasions when needed but mostly seemed to confidently run the point. Worried about her 3 point shot. Recalling last season was not always reliable, but if she were to get that in a groove she’d be a nightmare for other teams given the options on the Wings team

AND speaking of options, this team appears to be a stable of top quality race horses. Given the depth, I kind of am hoping for a 10-11 player rotation (essentially everyone except Plaisance as I don’t know if she can keep up) and wearing other teams down with shorter benches. Hopefullly by playoffs the Wings will find themselves on top as other teams are running on empty.


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Shades wrote:
Admiral_Needa wrote:
2017 #3 draft pick Akhator? Question


Now if Curt Miller had any inkling of intregrity, he’d drop George, who only cost him a #21 pick (could have had Russell or Musina), and pick up Shaqhator, who he claimed was a clear Top 8 pick in 2017 and publicly disparaged anyone who thought otherwise (just about everybody).

Then if he wanted to keep Laney, he’d have to drop BJones.

Curt Miller better grab a tissue box because he has some tough decisions to make. But now that he’s starting his third year, maybe he’s getting more used to the tough decisions.


Remind me why you dislike Curt Miller so intensely?

He seems pretty bland to me, so the fervor seems out of place ... but I'm sure there are reasons.



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ClayK wrote:
Shades wrote:
Admiral_Needa wrote:
2017 #3 draft pick Akhator? Question


Now if Curt Miller had any inkling of intregrity, he’d drop George, who only cost him a #21 pick (could have had Russell or Musina), and pick up Shaqhator, who he claimed was a clear Top 8 pick in 2017 and publicly disparaged anyone who thought otherwise (just about everybody).

Then if he wanted to keep Laney, he’d have to drop BJones.

Curt Miller better grab a tissue box because he has some tough decisions to make. But now that he’s starting his third year, maybe he’s getting more used to the tough decisions.


Remind me why you dislike Curt Miller so intensely?

He seems pretty bland to me, so the fervor seems out of place ... but I'm sure there are reasons.


Miller made a joke to the media about "basement dwellers" not having as much insight about what goes on during draft night as, you know, the actual people who make those decisions, and Shades took it very personally for some reason. Kind of strange because everyone else here thought it was funny, but you know what they say about a hit dog hollering...


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I seem to remember reading that WNBA teams don't get to work out or meet with potential draft picks. Although I don't remember any justification for that. But when you can't meet with players like Zahui and Akhator, you may not notice that their roster height boost is two inches more than their peers. And thinking they are two inches taller than they are can raise their rating quite a bit.


I don't see any evidence that Fred Williams is incompetent or worthless.


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Shades wrote:

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui then say KML?


Zahui B has upside,but it needs to manifest this season...Roster spots are at a premium.


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zune69 wrote:
Shades wrote:

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui than say KML?


Zahui B has upside,but it needs to manifest this season...Roster spots are at a premium.


Would you say the same about KML, or does she have no upside?



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tfan wrote:
I seem to remember reading that WNBA teams don't get to work out or meet with potential draft picks. Although I don't remember any justification for that. But when you can't meet with players like Zahui and Akhator, you may not notice that their roster height boost is two inches more than their peers. And thinking they are two inches taller than they are can raise their rating quite a bit.


I don't see any evidence that Fred Williams is incompetent or worthless.


Not sure I agree with the first part. If you're truly scouting a player and presumably looking at lots of tape, one of the things you have to look at is how much size a 'big' really has. If all (or most) of us noticed the height amplification beyond the normal bounds, then there is no excuse for a team scouting that player not to see it as well. That said, mistakes happen, and how well a player's abilities will translate to the pros is not always obvious. Dallas may well have realized Akhator was 'short' but still thought she could become a GloJo type player. And really, she may still do it sometime down the road. I wish her well in her overseas career. Maybe she'll be back.

I think Williams has his own style of coaching. This year he has the guns for it so we will see how well that translates into wins.



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Shades wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Shades wrote:

Doesn’t anybody think there’s still more potential in Zahui than say KML?


Zahui B has upside,but it needs to manifest this season...Roster spots are at a premium.


Would you say the same about KML, or does she have no upside?

Zahui went from winning a championship in Czech to coming over to Liberty camp with no rest. KML is spending time with her family in California instead of being in camp. Who wants a WNBA job more?


KML could be a 3 point specialist for the right team...Unfortunately she has 4 things working against her:

1.Poor defender

2.Inconsistent condition

3.Lack of size at the SF position

4.Hasn't found her stroke at the pro level(32% from 3)

Coach Hughes talking about playing Stewart at SF isn't a good sign for KML.


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Any 2015 pick will be a RFA after this season. Loyd, Williams and Stokes are locks to get new contracts. Probably Cheyenne Parker, Cloud and Boyd, too. But are teams going to even offer the minimum to players like KML, Zahui B and Hamby?



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Any 2015 pick will be a RFA after this season. Loyd, Williams and Stokes are locks to get new contracts. Probably Cheyenne Parker, Cloud and Boyd, too. But are teams going to even offer the minimum to players like KML, Zahui B and Hamby?


It depends on how they perform this season.


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sigur3 wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Remind me why you dislike Curt Miller so intensely?

He seems pretty bland to me, so the fervor seems out of place ... but I'm sure there are reasons.


Miller made a joke to the media about "basement dwellers" not having as much insight about what goes on during draft night as, you know, the actual people who make those decisions, and Shades took it very personally for some reason. Kind of strange because everyone else here thought it was funny, but you know what they say about a hit dog hollering...


It's because he used the fact that none us fans had Akhator as a Top 8 pick to mock us (instead of any other example of fans being wrong), so were we considered ignorant/stupid for not thinking Akhator would be a top player in the 2017 Draft or ignorant/stupid for not knowing a team would be crazy enough to draft her in the Top 10 (only to cut her the follow season)?


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The preseason game against the Aces.
Chong had an impressive game, very good well rounded game
Cambage left me with the impression she will not be overwhelmed by anyone this year, instead she will overwhelm others.
We are a better team with Glory on the court. She makes things happen.
K Davis and Cambage were victims of marginal foul calls.
K Davis has Glory-like moves, smooth, fluid, and a passing lane anticipation steal, fast break behind the back pass to Gray...well we didn't score, but it sure was exciting.
And then there is Stevens. Instinctive ability to know where the basket is at all times. She can do more than score. She is a really good fit for this team


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Not sure I agree with the first part. If you're truly scouting a player and presumably looking at lots of tape, one of the things you have to look at is how much size a 'big' really has. If all (or most) of us noticed the height amplification beyond the normal bounds, then there is no excuse for a team scouting that player not to see it as well. That said, mistakes happen, and how well a player's abilities will translate to the pros is not always obvious. Dallas may well have realized Akhator was 'short' but still thought she could become a GloJo type player. And really, she may still do it sometime down the road. I wish her well in her overseas career. Maybe she'll be back.


I remember you commenting right away about Akhator being shorter than advertised based on seeing her in college (maybe other people did, but don't recall it). But I don't remember anyone saying anything about Zahui B being significantly shorter than her roster height. At some point I saw Zahui standing near the listed 6'2" Pierson in a game and they looked very close in height. So I posted it here ( http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?start=1100&t=85735 )
and there were responses about it, but I don't remember anyone saying that they always thought she was shorter than advertised.




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I remember commenting that Zahui must have been measured to the top of her hairdo... Laughing But my point is that when the well-being of the teams depends on knowing that kind of information, there is no excuse for not knowing it. Someone is getting paid to know it!



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Zahui B is a legit 6'4...



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I almost forgot this was a wings thread Rolling Eyes



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justintyme wrote:
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You may not like him as a coach but Fred is a truly nice guy. And I'm pretty sure his players like him.

The thing about a nice person who is incompetent is that they are still incompetent.


I'm not buying that a person who has NCAA titles and WNBA finals appearances is incompetent. That doesn't mean he is the best out there, but there is a lot in between that, and I'd hardly call a person with those on there resume an incompetent coach.



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Zahui B is a legit 6'4...



I think her max "roster height" might be 6'3". That also may be true of Kia Vaughn. In looking at some foreign game a month or two ago, it looked like listed 6'4" Lynetta Kizer was a little taller than the listed 6'4" Alaina Coates who looked a little taller than the listed 6'4" Kia Vaughn.



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Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
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The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


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Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
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The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


Who Question Rolling Eyes



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Cambage is a paleo diet devotee after first trying it four years ago and shedding 25 per cent of her body fat "straight away".
Texas is not known for its healthy food, but Cambage has not been tempted and is sticking to her current favourite home-cooked roasted brussel sprouts with bacon and balsamic vinegar.
It was a different story when she was a teenager playing on the Bulleen Boomers in the WNBL.
"We were sponsored by the Pancake Parlour and I was in there after every training session having a chocolate thick shake, getting pancakes with ice cream and chocolate sauce, maybe a Cajun chicken salad on the side," she laughed.
"We would smash that."


http://kwese.espn.com/nbl/story/_/id/23523231/liz-cambage-faces-aussies-wnba-return



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Diggins wants the W to win

http://www.complex.com/sports/2018/05/skylar-diggins-smith-wnba-here-to-win

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Diggins-Smith is, no surprise, passionate about the coverage (or lack thereof) her league gets. When I ask how she would fix the problem, she shoots back, “You think if I knew the fix, that it wouldn't be fixed?” But as she continues talking through it, she lands on some ideas. “We need more women telling sports stories, because 90 percent of these sports stories are curated by men. We have no diversity in who writes for the WNBA. It's kind of all white men... People have stories to tell, and our league is so diverse.”



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I seem to remember Cambage blaming “American food” for making her fat after her first stint in the WNBA, and I was like.... wait a minute.... she used to do Aussie promo pics with a huge stack of pancakes topped by a big glob of butter.



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tfan wrote:
Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
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The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


Who Question Rolling Eyes


Whoa!...Show Courtney Paris some respect.She's led the WNBA in rebounding 2x,and helped Tul/Dal make the playoffs 2x...It's great to have Cambage back.Dallas should be a better team.But let's not be dismissive of a player who put in work for the Tul/Dal franchise....GO WINGS!!! Very Happy


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zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
tfan wrote:
Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
Quote:

The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


Who Question Rolling Eyes


Whoa!...Show Courtney Paris some respect.She's led the WNBA in rebounding 2x,and helped Tul/Dal make the playoffs 2x...It's great to have Cambage back.Dallas should be a better team.But let's not be dismissive of a player who put in work for the Tul/Dal franchise.


Shes not on our team anymore , im not going to dwell on the past . Nothing personal but she was apart of our dweller years and played a major role in us not being able to take the next step . I hope she has an amazing season in Seattle , but she will not be missed sorry .



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I hope she has an amazing season in Seattle , but she will not be missed sorry .


Wow. Shocked Laughing


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WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
tfan wrote:
Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
Quote:

The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


Who Question Rolling Eyes


Whoa!...Show Courtney Paris some respect.She's led the WNBA in rebounding 2x,and helped Tul/Dal make the playoffs 2x...It's great to have Cambage back.Dallas should be a better team.But let's not be dismissive of a player who put in work for the Tul/Dal franchise.


Shes not on our team anymore , im not going to dwell on the past . Nothing personal but she was apart of our dweller years and played a major role in us not being able to take the next step . I hope she has an amazing season in Seattle , but she will not be missed sorry .


No,Injuries and Cambage not showing up played the biggest role in Dallas being mediocre....Cambage has never made the playoffs...Tulsa had the worst defense in the league even when Cambage did show up...Stop trying to pin all of Tul/Dal defensive problems on Paris..


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zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
tfan wrote:
Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
Quote:

The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


Who Question Rolling Eyes


Whoa!...Show Courtney Paris some respect.She's led the WNBA in rebounding 2x,and helped Tul/Dal make the playoffs 2x...It's great to have Cambage back.Dallas should be a better team.But let's not be dismissive of a player who put in work for the Tul/Dal franchise.


Shes not on our team anymore , im not going to dwell on the past . Nothing personal but she was apart of our dweller years and played a major role in us not being able to take the next step . I hope she has an amazing season in Seattle , but she will not be missed sorry .


No,Injuries and Cambage not showing up played the biggest role in Dallas being mediocre....Cambage has never made the playoffs...Tulsa had the worst defense in the league even when Cambage did show up...Stop trying to pin all of Tul/Dal defensive problems on Paris..


2 words PICK & ROLL , that was our thorn every season she played with us and everyone in the league knew it. Cambage should be a upgrade with her rim protection . We were owned in the middle with Paris at Center . This was no fluke i saw it every game up close and personal time and time again . Hoping Liz & Azura can resolve those issues of the past. Clear upgrades in my opinion.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
tfan wrote:
Dallas Wings Finalize 2018 Roster
Quote:

The roster features 10 returning players, including All-Star guard Skylar Diggins-Smith, along with veterans Glory Johnson, Karima Christmas-Kelly, and Theresa Plaisance. Fellow returners, Aerial Powers and Kayla Thornton also join the roster. Four members of last year’s rookie class will begin their sophomore season, led by 2017 Rookie of the Year Allisha Gray and 2017 All-Rookie Team member Kaela Davis, as well as Saniya Chong and Breanna Lewis. Rounding out this year’s squad is international sensation, 6-foot-8 center Liz Cambage, and the Wings overall sixth pick in the 2018 WNBA Draft Azurá Stevens.


The Wings are missing Courtney Paris and Evelyn Akhator from 2017.


Who Question Rolling Eyes


Whoa!...Show Courtney Paris some respect.She's led the WNBA in rebounding 2x,and helped Tul/Dal make the playoffs 2x...It's great to have Cambage back.Dallas should be a better team.But let's not be dismissive of a player who put in work for the Tul/Dal franchise.


Shes not on our team anymore , im not going to dwell on the past . Nothing personal but she was apart of our dweller years and played a major role in us not being able to take the next step . I hope she has an amazing season in Seattle , but she will not be missed sorry .


No,Injuries and Cambage not showing up played the biggest role in Dallas being mediocre....Cambage has never made the playoffs...Tulsa had the worst defense in the league even when Cambage did show up...Stop trying to pin all of Tul/Dal defensive problems on Paris..


2 words PICK & ROLL , that was our thorn every season she played with us and everyone in the league knew it. Cambage should be a upgrade with her rim protection . We were owned in the middle with Paris at Center . This was no fluke i saw it every game up close and personal time and time again . Hoping Liz & Azura can resolve those issues of the past. Clear upgrades in my opinion.


It should be an upgrade..But stop acting like Courtney was the only bad defender on the team....Dallas guards have been historically bad at stopping dribble penetration...And Cambage has her own flaws on defense and offense...Liz is bad at guarding players in space,and in transition.She's also foul prone,and turns the ball over at a high rate.


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