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PostPosted: 04/12/18 9:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Diggins/Goodwin
Gray/Davis
Christmas/Powers
Johnson/Stevens/Thornton
Cambage/Akhator/Plaisance(until 100%)



I think they may have messed up by signing Plaisance early instead of when she’s ready to play. Now if they don’t full season suspend her, they have to start with 11, no different than WAS with Hill and IND with Johnson.


I believe shaqahtor will not be present this season. Nigerian NT commitments correct me.if jm wrong.



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PostPosted: 04/12/18 10:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
24+ wins,top 4 seed,Title contender,no excuses.


24+ wins is a lot and has always resulted in at least a top 3 seed and usually better:

2017 - Minnesota, LA
2016 - Minnesota, LA
2015 - no one
2014 - Phoenix, Minnesota
2013 - Minnesota, LA, Chicago
2012 - Minnesota, LA, Connecticut
2011 - Minnesota
2010 - Seattle
2009 - no one
2008 - San Antonio
2007 - Detroit
2006 - Los Angeles, Connecticut
2005 - Sacramento, Connecticut
2004 - LA
2003 - LA, Detroit


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 10:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Im excite to see Dallas in 2018


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I've got

Diggins/Goodwin/Chong
Gray/Davis
Christmas/Powers
Johnson/Stevens/Thorton
Cambage/Plaisance

With GloJo and Azura playing some minutes at the 5 until Plaisance is ready.

And if it looks like Plaisance can't go this season at all Butler.


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PostPosted: 04/12/18 10:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
zune69 wrote:
24+ wins,top 4 seed,Title contender,no excuses.


24+ wins is a lot and has always resulted in at least a top 3 seed and usually better:

2017 - Minnesota, LA
2016 - Minnesota, LA
2015 - no one
2014 - Phoenix, Minnesota
2013 - Minnesota, LA, Chicago
2012 - Minnesota, LA, Connecticut
2011 - Minnesota
2010 - Seattle
2009 - no one
2008 - San Antonio
2007 - Detroit
2006 - Los Angeles, Connecticut
2005 - Sacramento, Connecticut
2004 - LA
2003 - LA, Detroit



In 2015 five teams won 20+ gms.The Liberty won 22 & 21 gms each of the last two seasons.Minn/LA have both won 26+ gms each of the last two seasons.24 wins is very doable IMO...But okay,i'll cut Dallas some slack.....22-12...go 22-12....and finish win a top 4 seed.

In the last 7 seasons,27 teams have won 20+ gms.That's an average of nearly 4 per season.


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Libra_Girl wrote:
Im excite to see Dallas in 2018

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They should be aiming for a top 4 spot with that roster



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 12:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
I've got

Diggins/Goodwin/Chong
Gray/Davis
Christmas/Powers
Johnson/Stevens/Thorton
Cambage/Plaisance

With GloJo and Azura playing some minutes at the 5 until Plaisance is ready.

And if it looks like Plaisance can't go this season at all Butler.


Are you trying get banished to the basement? You are not to disrespect Miller’s authorite’. You’re basically favoring Chong (no longer needed) over Shaq. She actually might come in useful unless she’s missing a lot of time.



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 12:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Surprised to see all this Dallas love and quotes of how we will be a Top team in the league . I stated those words once and got my head chewed off and spit in a Mccoughtry Ice cream shop for being delusional Rolling Eyes #WFFL



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 12:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sparks had three all-stars last year [Parker, Ogwumike, Gray], Lynx had four [Augustus, Brunson, Fowles, Moore]. Dallas had one [Diggins-Smith] (Phoenix and Seattle had two) . If Dallas is going to challenge for the title, they could use a few more all-stars. Who makes the all-star team this year from Dallas? Cambage would have to beat out Fowles and Griner to make it. Stevens will be a rookie who hasn't played full-time since the 2015-2016 season.




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PostPosted: 04/13/18 12:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Top team in the league


Zune tends to be overly exuberant. I just thought it was a great draft considering the low picks. The team still has to gel with three new players on it. On paper it should be a good team. Not sure why they’re fussing with Plaisance if her contract isn’t guaranteed.



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 12:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
Sparks had three all-stars last year [Parker, Ogwumike, Gray], Lynx had four [Augustus, Brunson, Fowles, Moore]. Dallas had one [Diggins-Smith] (Phoenix and Seattle had two) . If Dallas is going to challenge for the title, they could use a few more all-stars. Who makes the all-star team this year from Dallas? Cambage would have to beat out Fowles and Griner to make it. Stevens will be a rookie who hasn't played full-time since the 2015-2016 season.



Diggins,Cambage,Johnson are the obvious candidates.The more games Dallas win,the more All-Stars they will get.Diggins will be an All-Star.Glory is a 2x All-Star.Cambage is one of the top 4 centers in the world...That being said.Every player who plays like an all-star doesn't necessarily make the all-star team.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
Top team in the league


Zune tends to be overly exuberant. I just thought it was a great draft considering the low picks. The team still has to gel with three new players on it. On paper it should be a good team. Not sure why they’re fussing with Plaisance if her contract isn’t guaranteed.



Rolling Eyes...Why would you even attach my name to WNBA 09's comment?...over the last 3 seasons I've consistently stated that Dallas at full strength with a healthy Cambage has the talent to contend for a championship....and BTW,I said top 4 seed.




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You originally said 24 wins until you tempered that a bit. 20 should be a good target.

I remember saying a couple years ago Cambage needed to be on this team for success because Paris was not starter for a championship team, and a Paris fan got really upset with me. Wink



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Shades wrote:
You originally said 24 wins until you tempered that a bit. 20 should be a good target.

I remember saying a couple years ago Cambage needed to be on this team for success because Paris was not starter for a championship team, and a Paris fan got really upset with me. Wink


No,you said Paris wasn't a rotation player,and that Dallas would not make the playoffs with Courtney as the starting center.That's what pissed me off.


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Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Top team in the league


Zune tends to be overly exuberant. I just thought it was a great draft considering the low picks. The team still has to gel with three new players on it. On paper it should be a good team. Not sure why they’re fussing with Plaisance if her contract isn’t guaranteed.


To be fair my statement was "A Top Team " not the "Top Team " Shades.



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 6:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Depth Chart:

PG:
1. Skylar Diggins-Smith
2. Loryn Goodwin
3. Saniya Chong

SG:
1. Allisha Gray
2. Aerial Powers
3. Kaela Davis

SF:
1. Karima Christmas-Kelly
2. Azura Stevens
3. Kayla Thornton

PF:
1. Glory Johnson
2. Theresa Plaisance
3. Evelyn Akhator

C:
1. Elizabeth Cambage
2. Natalie Butler
3. Breanna Lewis


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My entire family of 4, including two boys under 12 y/o were squealing with glee last night when we saw the 6th pick. I thought she was #2. So, happy they did not get Russell. As a tenn fan, I cannot endure another second of having to cheer for a team with her. Problem is I like the Storm, but I find myself cheering against them as if they were the Liberty with Bill at the helm now. Anyway, cannot wait for game 1 with a stop at uncle Julio’s after! Bring on the hot Waiter with the bubble butt! Woot!


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PostPosted: 04/13/18 9:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Goodwin game footage reel
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/978751506529665030/vid/1280x720/1w-RnJP28ULNX-X7.mp4



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 10:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Goodwin game footage reel
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/978751506529665030/vid/1280x720/1w-RnJP28ULNX-X7.mp4


Impressive.
Aggressive, offensive and defensive


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PostPosted: 04/13/18 10:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Looking at the current roster of 15 players, 3 will not make the team.
1. Chong or Goodwin
2. Lewis or Butler
The last position will depend on Plaisance being suspended (injury) or on the active roster.


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PostPosted: 04/13/18 10:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

basketballologist wrote:
Depth Chart:

SF:
1. Karima Christmas-Kelly
2. Azura Stevens
3. Kayla Thornton


Haha!! Stevens' ain't no SF!!



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 10:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Goodwin game footage reel
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/978751506529665030/vid/1280x720/1w-RnJP28ULNX-X7.mp4


Watching this i cant help but think a minny skylar diggins. Style of play and all ...shes going to be my favorite baby wing this season!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



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PostPosted: 04/13/18 10:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
basketballologist wrote:
Depth Chart:

SF:
1. Karima Christmas-Kelly
2. Azura Stevens
3. Kayla Thornton


Haha!! Stevens' ain't no SF!!


She was at Duke...



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PostPosted: 04/14/18 8:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Powers and Stevens could start for half of the WNBA teams Laughing


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The thought of having Cambage & Stevens on the court together is scary. Good luck to other teams.



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PostPosted: 04/14/18 9:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If I'm Dallas, I want Natalie Butler on the other team.

Powers has talent but is still a massive gunner. "No like to pass ball." The same for Xmas and Davis. Fred, Asst. Coach and Diggins will have to take charge to control these three and create a more inside out offense than last season.


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https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/04/14/22/17/wwos_140418_cambage



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Basketballologist, thanks for doing these depth charts. Very helpful ...



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toad455 wrote:
The thought of having Cambage & Stevens on the court together is scary. Good luck to other teams.


They still have Glory Johnson. What are you going to do, put Christmas and Powers in a corner? Nobody puts Christmas in a corner.



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PostPosted: 04/14/18 10:49 am    ::: Re: Cambage ejected in Commonwealth basketball gold medal ga Reply Reply with quote

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https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/04/14/22/17/wwos_140418_cambage


Seemed like too easy of a technical. She should be able to make faces at the FT line.

I don’t doubt she’ll pick up some techs in the WNBA, but unless co-motherhood has mellowed Taurasi, I don’t see Cambage as the leader in techs.



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ClayK wrote:
Basketballologist, thanks for doing these depth charts. Very helpful ...


Not a problem


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PostPosted: 04/14/18 11:18 am    ::: Re: Cambage ejected in Commonwealth basketball gold medal ga Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
stever wrote:
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/04/14/22/17/wwos_140418_cambage


Seemed like too easy of a technical. She should be able to make faces at the FT line.

I don’t doubt she’ll pick up some techs in the WNBA, but unless co-motherhood has mellowed Taurasi, I don’t see Cambage as the leader in techs.


This was a prime example of Targeting . No shape of form did she deserve to get tossed.



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PostPosted: 04/14/18 1:09 pm    ::: Re: Cambage ejected in Commonwealth basketball gold medal ga Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
stever wrote:
https://wwos.nine.com.au/2018/04/14/22/17/wwos_140418_cambage


Seemed like too easy of a technical. She should be able to make faces at the FT line.

I don’t doubt she’ll pick up some techs in the WNBA, but unless co-motherhood has mellowed Taurasi, I don’t see Cambage as the leader in techs.


This was a prime example of Targeting . No shape of form did she deserve to get tossed.


Yeah this was a very weak call. I wonder if this was a make up call because her first T was because she elbowed someone in the back of the head and they didnt toss her then.

Luuc do you have a video of the elbow to the head?



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This is the sequence that ends with the USF. (It might not last long on YouTube though because the games broadcast network has been very fast to remove everything. Hopefully it will be viewable in some countries for a while)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO1cWaZydHs

[ETA] Ok it was blocked within minutes in 133 countries, but looks like Nederland is not one of them, so it might still be viewable for you, Michelle.



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Cambage's attitude is still that of a spoiled brat. The world is always against her, everyone's being totally unfair, and even if she might've just committed bloody murder that's no good reason for her to receive any kind of punishment. I'd kinda forgotten how thoroughly obnoxious she is most of the time before the Commonwealths, but it all came quickly rushing back.

If you set the over/under for games she'll miss through suspension in the upcoming WNBA season at 1, I'd happily take the over. Video review isn't going to be her friend.



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Luuuc wrote:
This is the sequence that ends with the USF. (It might not last long on YouTube though because the games broadcast network has been very fast to remove everything. Hopefully it will be viewable in some countries for a while)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO1cWaZydHs

[ETA] Ok it was blocked within minutes in 133 countries, but looks like Nederland is not one of them, so it might still be viewable for you, Michelle.


Yeah i could watch it. Tbh they were both fighting for position. A soft call for a T imo but you can give it if you want to take control of the situation and the game.

Like Richyyy said, Cambage attitude will get her in trouble in the WNBA. She will be competing with Taurasi in technicals



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I'm still #WFFL though. Go Liz!!



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Richyyy wrote:
Cambage's attitude is still that of a spoiled brat. The world is always against her, everyone's being totally unfair, and even if she might've just committed bloody murder that's no good reason for her to receive any kind of punishment. I'd kinda forgotten how thoroughly obnoxious she is most of the time before the Commonwealths, but it all came quickly rushing back.

If you set the over/under for games she'll miss through suspension in the upcoming WNBA season at 1, I'd happily take the over. Video review isn't going to be her friend.


Hopefully she doesn't negatively affect the attitudes of her Wings teammates towards the refs. She is definitely going to have more reason to be ticked off with regard to "physical play" of her opponents in the WNBA than she has been used to in recent years in other leagues.


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It'll be interesting to see how it goes for her in Dallas.
Her opinion during the recent WNBL season was basically that the league is reffed too soft compared to the WNBA, and that she was looking forward to getting back to that game style. I don't know that it's entirely true, but I do sympathise a little because she was a giant in this league and the midgets were allowed to get away with a lot against her at times. The attitude still gets old fast though.



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I'm still #WFFL though. Go Liz!!


+ 1 Of courseeee



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Looking at minutes per game possibilities for Wings newcomers at the F/C positions.
Last year Paris was 17.7 mpg. Cambage, by expectations, could warrant a few more than that.
Stevens minutes... If Plaisance does not play, her minutes (12.4mpg) could go to Stevens.
If Cambage and Stevens perform well enough to deserve more than that, it gets a little tricky finding enough playing time for everyone. The F/C positions...Cambage, Stevens, Powers (19.5mpg), Glory (30.1mpg), Thornton (15.3mpg), Christmas-Kelly (23.1mpg) and eventually Plaisance (injury, 12.4mpg)...that's a quality bunch, with Akhator(4.1mpg), Lewis (4.0mpg) (or Butler) yet to prove their value.


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Doubt Glory plays 30 mpg this season with the post depth now . Cambage should get around 25-28 if conditioned. If AP can perform consistently i can see Gray being pushed to our 6th man hell Azura being our 7th is still so magical i have a hard time believing.



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Doubt Glory plays 30 mpg this season with the post depth now . Cambage should get around 25-28 if conditioned. If AP can perform consistently i can see Gray being pushed to our 6th man hell Azura being our 7th is still so magical i have a hard time believing.


Yeah i dont see Cambage averaging more then 28 min per game (probably 25-28max) because of foul trouble and the up and down pace from Dallas.



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So Plaisance will be ready to play when camps start and Akhator is showing up. Interesting. Wonder if the Wings can deal Akhator somewhere for a second rounder?

http://wings.wnba.com/news/dallas-wings-announce-2018-training-camp-roster/



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Plaisance will be ready? What in the smart drugs is she taking to heal that fast? I’d be surprised if she’s really ready.

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Did you notice anything else? Hamblin is on the training camp roster. This will be intriguing.



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I just wonder if someone goofed with that press release. Akhator is supposed to be with the Nigerian national team, Plaisance injured and Hamblin is sitting out.



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I think they can be on the roster and not necessarily be there on the first day of camp or even active.



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I just wonder if someone goofed with that press release. Akhator is supposed to be with the Nigerian national team, Plaisance injured and Hamblin is sitting out.

Just because Plaisance is on a roster doesn't mean she's healthy, and I don't believe anyone's ever said a thing about Akhator taking the season off. You think Nigeria are having a six-month training camp before the Worlds? Hamblin sat out the 2017 season supposedly to compete for a spot with Canada, but as far as I know hasn't said she was skipping 2018. Considering the player I saw at the Commonwealth Games, it probably doesn't make much difference whether she does or not.



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PostPosted: 04/17/18 9:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I just wonder if someone goofed with that press release. Akhator is supposed to be with the Nigerian national team, Plaisance injured and Hamblin is sitting out.

Just because Plaisance is on a roster doesn't mean she's healthy, and I don't believe anyone's ever said a thing about Akhator taking the season off. You think Nigeria are having a six-month training camp before the Worlds? Hamblin sat out the 2017 season supposedly to compete for a spot with Canada, but as far as I know hasn't said she was skipping 2018. Considering the player I saw at the Commonwealth Games, it probably doesn't make much difference whether she does or not.


I actually did hear Ahkahtor taking off the season for the nigeria national team but maybe she has considered else wise. This was a management decision , but maybe she feels she can do better this season. No way she makes this team ..possibly a trade somewhere for next yrs 2nd rounder from Seattle? They need a PF Laughing



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Dallas could save face if Akhator "took the year off." Sounds better than cutting the No. 3 overall pick ...



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