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PostPosted: 11/13/17 6:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So @LasVegasWNBA number 1 pick
@IndianaFever with the 2nd pick
@wnbachicagosky with the 3rd and 4th pick
#WNBADraft #wnbadraftlottery


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I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


Does chicago really need another front court player that bad?


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 7:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wonder if he wants anyone from the Liberty? #1 pick to New York for Stokes, Rodgers & the #10 pick?



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stever wrote:
I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


What does chicago need with Aja though ?



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There'll be rumours galore up to (and beyond) the moment the pick is announced, but there's no way Laimbeer gives up the #1 without a superstar back in return. Wilson might not be a dead cert absolute star like some #1s, but she's gonna be very good, at the top of a very good draft class. Even when you suck as much as SAS/LV?, you don't give that up for bits and pieces.



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There'll be rumours galore up to (and beyond) the moment the pick is announced, but there's no way Laimbeer gives up the #1 without a superstar back in return. Wilson might not be a dead cert absolute star like some #1s, but she's gonna be very good, at the top of a very good draft class. Even when you suck as much as SAS/LV?, you don't give that up for bits and pieces.


Angel for # 1 straight up ?



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Just learned via halftime of SCarolina-Maryland game that the Stars are in Vegas now. Laughing



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 8:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I think Williams would be a better fit for the Stars, they could look in to moving Jefferson, maybe to Indy if they land the 4 pick.


Does anyone really think Plum will ever be better than a healthy Moriah Jefferson?


She could be. I've been in the "Jefferson is overrated" camp all along.


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His history of underrating UConn guards, most notably Bird, is well-known.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 8:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


No, no, no.... if Laimbeer screws this up, he might as well hang up the "Gone Fishing" sign.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 8:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
I wonder if he wants anyone from the Liberty? #1 pick to New York for Stokes, Rodgers & the #10 pick?


I'm guessing he's going to be happy to not have to deal with the inconsistency of those two.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 8:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm sure trader Bill will look into trades but really drafting Wilson #1 and a big wing left on the board at #13 (Vivians, S. Thomas, Atkins, Nared, Nurse) and things look a lot better for Vegas (even if they don't break up Plum and Jefferson but if Vegas does make a trade I'm think it is one of those two not the pick.)

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Jefferson/Colson
Plum/A. Montgomery or Holmes
McBride/#13 (Vivians, Nared, S. Thomas, Atkins, Nurse)/Hamby
#1 Wilson/Dos Santos/Burdick
Harrison/Alexander

Even if you keep Plum and Jefferson with McBride sliding to the 2 you don't need to play them together very often, and you can put a larger wing or guard on the floor most of the time to pair with them.


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PostPosted: 11/13/17 9:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Richyyy wrote:
There'll be rumours galore up to (and beyond) the moment the pick is announced, but there's no way Laimbeer gives up the #1 without a superstar back in return. Wilson might not be a dead cert absolute star like some #1s, but she's gonna be very good, at the top of a very good draft class. Even when you suck as much as SAS/LV?, you don't give that up for bits and pieces.


Angel for # 1 straight up ?


Works for me. I'm not sure that LV would want a player who will be 32 next season who is not exactly a "coaches player." Plus, LV's biggest need is in the post, not on the wing.



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I never thought of Wilson as a center in the W. Better off at the 4 like Tina Charles.



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PostPosted: 11/13/17 10:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mystics/jackpot-las-vegas-wins-wnba-draft-lottery/2017/11/13/4854025a-c8d2-11e7-b506-8a10ed11ecf5_story.html

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“Consensus is she’s the No. 1 pick,” Laimbeer said. “Time will tell. In our league, there’s some really big players.”



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PostPosted: 11/14/17 5:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
stever wrote:
I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


Does chicago really need another front court player that bad?


Jessica Breland is their starting 4 still


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PostPosted: 11/14/17 7:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aladyyn wrote:
blaase22 wrote:
stever wrote:
I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


Does chicago really need another front court player that bad?


Jessica Breland is their starting 4 still

Yes and their starting 2 and 3 are copper and quigley with aging Cappie and hooper backing them up, why give up two lottery picks that will bolster your roster for just one. They are also adding Coates to the front court.


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PostPosted: 11/14/17 7:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
blaase22 wrote:
stever wrote:
I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


Does chicago really need another front court player that bad?


Jessica Breland is their starting 4 still

Yes and their starting 2 and 3 are copper and quigley with aging Cappie and hooper backing them up, why give up two lottery picks that will bolster your roster for just one. They are also adding Coates to the front court.


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PostPosted: 11/15/17 4:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
Aladyyn wrote:
blaase22 wrote:
stever wrote:
I'd wager it's at least 50/50 right now that LVFO will trade down, some kind of two for one trade, my money is on Chicago. Just an early hunch.


Does chicago really need another front court player that bad?


Jessica Breland is their starting 4 still

Yes and their starting 2 and 3 are copper and quigley with aging Cappie and hooper backing them up, why give up two lottery picks that will bolster your roster for just one. They are also adding Coates to the front court.


Quigley just had 16.4 PPG on 63% TS and Copper looked fine after Young was traded. Dolson hasn't shown the ability to share the court with another 5 and Breland is clearly the weak link in that starting lineup (and PF is the most stacked position league-wide to boot). I agree they shouldn't be trading those picks to trade up, but they certainly need a player like Wilson.


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PostPosted: 11/15/17 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is Wilson good enough (and Chicago already deep enough) that you'd trade 3+4 for 1?



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PostPosted: 11/15/17 11:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Is Wilson good enough (and Chicago already deep enough) that you'd trade 3+4 for 1?


Vegas has enough bits and pieces, but they don't have a franchise player. Wilson would be that franchise player.



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Shades wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Is Wilson good enough (and Chicago already deep enough) that you'd trade 3+4 for 1?


Vegas has enough bits and pieces, but they don't have a franchise player. Wilson would be that franchise player.


If by "franchise player" you mean take-charge one-woman-show a la Angel or Delle Donne, then no.

She's another quality piece.

Given LV's desperate need for a star quality big, I can't see any chance they would trade that #1 pick for anything anyone would ever be willing to offer.


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Shades wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Is Wilson good enough (and Chicago already deep enough) that you'd trade 3+4 for 1?


Vegas has enough bits and pieces, but they don't have a franchise player. Wilson would be that franchise player.


If by "franchise player" you mean take-charge one-woman-show a la Angel or Delle Donne, then no.

She's another quality piece.

Given LV's desperate need for a star quality big, I can't see any chance they would trade that #1 pick for anything anyone would ever be willing to offer.

So she's like Nneka? Sounds pretty good to me.


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Aladyyn wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Shades wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Is Wilson good enough (and Chicago already deep enough) that you'd trade 3+4 for 1?


Vegas has enough bits and pieces, but they don't have a franchise player. Wilson would be that franchise player.


If by "franchise player" you mean take-charge one-woman-show a la Angel or Delle Donne, then no.

She's another quality piece.

Given LV's desperate need for a star quality big, I can't see any chance they would trade that #1 pick for anything anyone would ever be willing to offer.


So she's like Nneka? Sounds pretty good to me.


Sounds good to me too. Which is why I find the likelihood of them trading that pick to be very low.


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PostPosted: 11/15/17 1:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wilson is also a perfect fit with the roster LV already has.


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Wilson is also a perfect fit with the roster LV already has.

Assuming you think she makes a good frontcourt with Harrison. Some might argue they're both 4s, which would leave LV? either shoehorning them together or still searching for a 5 (unless Kayla Alexander really flourishes under Laimbeer, which isn't impossible).



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stever wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mystics/jackpot-las-vegas-wins-wnba-draft-lottery/2017/11/13/4854025a-c8d2-11e7-b506-8a10ed11ecf5_story.html

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“Consensus is she’s the No. 1 pick,” Laimbeer said. “Time will tell. In our league, there’s some really big players.”


THIS and she is smaller than listed.


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So if coates does decide to re-enter the draft which is still a possiblity , does she go #1 or 2 ? Or does she still end up drafted to chicago with 3 or 4 ? My guess is that she needs to just sign and suit up .



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So if coates does decide to re-enter the draft which is still a possiblity , does she go #1 or 2 ? Or does she still end up drafted to chicago with 3 or 4 ? My guess is that she needs to just sign and suit up .


Why would Chicago draft her again if she doesn't want to be there?



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PostPosted: 11/15/17 7:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Coates has plans on re-entering the draft,chicago should just sign/trade Coates to the team of her choice.Why waste a draft pick when you can get something in return.


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Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
So if coates does decide to re-enter the draft which is still a possiblity , does she go #1 or 2 ? Or does she still end up drafted to chicago with 3 or 4 ? My guess is that she needs to just sign and suit up .


Why would Chicago draft her again if she doesn't want to be there?


Would likely cost Coates money to re-enter the draft. She probably would not be a lottery pick, esp. for Chicago.



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Randy wrote:
Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
So if coates does decide to re-enter the draft which is still a possiblity , does she go #1 or 2 ? Or does she still end up drafted to chicago with 3 or 4 ? My guess is that she needs to just sign and suit up .


Why would Chicago draft her again if she doesn't want to be there?


Would likely cost Coates money to re-enter the draft. She probably would not be a lottery pick, esp. for Chicago.


Same thoughts i had also , but money doesnt seem to be a big issue for Alaina im guessing since shes waited out this long . If coates does suit up , that could be one hell of a team in chicago .

Slooty
Quigley
Diamond/Kelsey
Gabby
Coates
Dolson
Breland
Cappie
Hampton
Faulkner
Too lazy to look at the roster online , still 1 hell of a team !



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It would also cost Coates money because she couldn't play over-seas at all this season. As soon as she signs a contract over-seas she becomes a reserved player in Chicago if I understand the rules correctly.


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I think Laimbeer drafts Gabby Williams #1, bringing home a hometown star, which would be a great marketing tool. Gabby would probably love it as well. And then he’ll sign free agent Tina Charles somehow or another. He didn’t seem too interested in A’ja Wilson. Who would be when he knows he’s going to get Tina Charles.


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Ay Mate wrote:
I think Laimbeer drafts Gabby Williams #1, bringing home a hometown star, which would be a great marketing tool. Gabby would probably love it as well. And then he’ll sign free agent Tina Charles somehow or another. He didn’t seem too interested in A’ja Wilson. Who would be when he knows he’s going to get Tina Charles.


It is a seven-hour drive from Reno to Las Vegas (618 miles) ...

And even if Gabby were from Las Vegas, there's no evidence that having played for a local high school has any significant impact on attendance.

Lots of people tend to forget how big states are in the West. It's an 11-hour drive from one end of California to the other, and that's if the traffic is flowing.



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Also, many of the people attending games will probably be out of town visitors who are marginal WBB fans at best.



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Ay Mate wrote:
I think Laimbeer drafts Gabby Williams #1, bringing home a hometown star, which would be a great marketing tool. Gabby would probably love it as well. And then he’ll sign free agent Tina Charles somehow or another. He didn’t seem too interested in A’ja Wilson. Who would be when he knows he’s going to get Tina Charles.


He said he wanted size because players in this league are "Big" how would Gabby be the answer to that ? Laughing



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You're not going to really know how Laimbeer feels about a player until after the draft is over.... even though he has the #1 pick.

If he really doesn't want Aja Wilson, he should be talking her up to increase her trade value.



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