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PostPosted: 01/30/18 11:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Check out @Charles33Monroe’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Charles33Monroe/status/958187888100986881?s=09

Question for dream fans ! Will Coach Collen bring Sykes off the bench with angel returning? Sykes gets buckets ATL has a better shot starting her with TIP and Lori Ann, which brings the question Can Angel play the 4 and ATL be effective on defense? Decisions , Decisions, Decisions!


Unless they play small ball with McCoughtry as a PF, I don’t she has much of a choice. Could this turn into another Bentley-Williams conundrum?


I'll be satisfied if they just don't trade Sykes for a player like Ajavon. (I know - I should get over the Bentley some day, but today is not that day.)


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Check out @Charles33Monroe’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Charles33Monroe/status/958187888100986881?s=09

Question for dream fans ! Will Coach Collen bring Sykes off the bench with angel returning? Sykes gets buckets ATL has a better shot starting her with TIP and Lori Ann, which brings the question Can Angel play the 4 and ATL be effective on defense? Decisions , Decisions, Decisions!


Unless they play small ball with McCoughtry as a PF, I don’t she has much of a choice. Could this turn into another Bentley-Williams conundrum?


I'll be satisfied if they just don't trade Sykes for a player like Ajavon. (I know - I should get over the Bentley some day, but today is not that day.)


Newsflash: Bentley’s not that good. That’s why she got benched.



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Maybe not - but she was way better than Ajavon. I should shut up now. They might trade Sykes for Bentley...... Embarassed


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Maybe not - but she was way better than Ajavon. I should shut up now. They might trade Sykes for Bentley...... Embarassed


Sykes for Chong if you likeeee? Laughing



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PostPosted: 01/31/18 1:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think it will hurt Atl to experiment with Angel at the 4 spot. They have E. Williams and Stafford McGhee so they could slide to a more traditional line up with both of them in, but the small line up will be able to score, a lot, so what they lose in size they'll make up in offense and speed.

Clarendon
Sykes
Hayes/Holmes
McCoughtry
E. Williams/Imani

Is not a bad start, grab a couple free agent posts (Kizer, C. Little) see if Lyttle or Dantas want to stay in Atlanta, draft a post like Mavunga, Nared or Hines-Allen at #16 if you still don't have enough, or add to the perimeter with whoever falls to 16 between Atkins, S. Thomas, Vivians, Scaife. You can always find a decent guard free agents maybe Perkins or A. Montgomery can give you 10 minute off the bench if you want to move on from Ajevon, and there are always a few decent young guards that get cut.


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PostPosted: 01/31/18 3:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Holmes is taking the year off, so maybe they keep Young or draft a decent SF at #14, or both.

The scary thing with Collen is she might subscribe to the Curt Miller draft newsletter. After last year, I would burn that sucker.



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Probably won't matter since we are drafting at 16. I assume that Sienko is charge of drafting anyway.


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Maybe not - but she was way better than Ajavon. I should shut up now. They might trade Sykes for Bentley...... Embarassed


Sykes for Chong if you likeeee? Laughing


Don't give them any ideas. I like Chong, but not as well as Sykes. Maybe we can pick her up after Dallas cuts her.


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Maybe not - but she was way better than Ajavon. I should shut up now. They might trade Sykes for Bentley...... Embarassed


Sykes for Chong if you likeeee? Laughing


Don't give them any ideas. I like Chong, but not as well as Sykes. Maybe we can pick her up after Dallas cuts her.


You and Zune probably think this is crazy, but I think they may keep Chong. She’s not the type of PG Diggins will have to look over her shoulder about. If they were to draft for example Lexie Brown, then you’d eventually run into the “who’s #1” issues she had with Sims.



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Shades wrote:
Randy wrote:
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Randy wrote:
Maybe not - but she was way better than Ajavon. I should shut up now. They might trade Sykes for Bentley...... Embarassed


Sykes for Chong if you likeeee? Laughing


Don't give them any ideas. I like Chong, but not as well as Sykes. Maybe we can pick her up after Dallas cuts her.


You and Zune probably think this is crazy, but I think they may keep Chong. She’s not the type of PG Diggins will have to look over her shoulder about. If they were to draft for example Lexie Brown, then you’d eventually run into the “who’s #1” issues she had with Sims.


I doubt it.

1.Sim/Diggins had a rivalry going back to college.

2.Many people thought Sims would be a better player than Diggins at the pro level.

3.Sims was the 2nd overall pick(Diggins 3rd overall)

4.Sims led Dallas in scoring when Diggins was injured.

Sims ego and history with Diggins was too big to take a lesser role.Lexie has no history with Diggins,nor will she be a lottery pick....Despite being a bad shooter,I like Chong as the backup.However,Brown is a better shooter,and has a greater upside.But more than anything,i'm really down on Russell(Defensive Rebouding).


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I agree on us *Dallas* keeping chong . She was formidable , did not turn the ball over much at all . For some reason i feel in order for ATL to make a splash in the league this season . Clarendon could be used for Trade Bait if not this year maybe next year .



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I agree on us *Dallas* keeping chong . She was formidable , did not turn the ball over much at all . For some reason i feel in order for ATL to make a splash in the league this season . Clarendon could be used for Trade Bait if not this year maybe next year .


There are better PG's than Clarendon out there, but none of them can be obtained by trading her. We trade Clarendon and we have no PG. Don't see how she can be traded.


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1. Keep Clarendon. Her numbers last year I thought were very solid. She's really growing into this role

2. Do y'all think Sancho won't be coming back? I know she's a UFA, but would not coming back to ATL be her decision or the team's decision to you think?

3. I can see Angel playing SOME 4, but just when going small. I don't see her as the starting 4. I would prefer more of an around the basket 4 to complement Williams down low.


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2. Do y'all think Sancho won't be coming back? I know she's a UFA, but would not coming back to ATL be her decision or the team's decision to you think?


Monique Currie put out the rumor that there’s a new PF heading to PHX.
People put two and two together by pointing out that Lyttle played with Griner and Taurasi when she was at UMMC.



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I don't expect Sancho back. She's pretty clearly lost a step in any event, so we would still need a post player.

Ideally McGee-Stafford would develop into a starter so we could move Williams to the 4 where she belongs. Yeah, that means Sykes as 6th woman, which would be OK by me.



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PostPosted: 02/01/18 12:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Atl already looking a lot better. I still would keep both Clarendon and Montgomery but it sounds like Monty went to Atl to start, but for now...

Clarendon/Montgomery
Hayes/Sykes
McCoughtry
Breland
E. Williams/Stafford-McGhee

I'd probably try to keep T. Young to back Angel, hope Dantas is on board for 18, grab best available at #16 not bad


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PostPosted: 02/01/18 12:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I highly doubt T Young will be back...


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I highly doubt T Young will be back...


History with Lori Ann probably suggests that also



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PostPosted: 02/01/18 1:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah I kind of think Young will reunite with Pokey in Indy, but Atl will need someone to back up Angel if Holmes is out for this season. I could see them drafting Hines-Allen at #16 or hoping one of Nared or S. Thomas lasts until #16. A. Montgomery played at GA Tech, maybe she ends up in Atl as Angel's backup.


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If they're not going to ask Angel to play much 4 and a Clarendon trade isn't necessarily imminent then they've got most of the backup there already. Sykes covers both wing spots, and against certain lineups Clarendon and Montgomery can play together. 5 players for 120 perimeter minutes works out fine (albeit you'd like some cover for the inevitable injuries).



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I really like Breland on this team.

I'm liking Collen's moves so far. Now if she can keep all the egos in check it really looks like a team. Big improvement. Of course getting Angel back already means big improvement but adding Breland and Monty and sending Sancho off is all to the good.



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PostPosted: 02/01/18 8:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Atl already looking a lot better. I still would keep both Clarendon and Montgomery but it sounds like Monty went to Atl to start, but for now...

Clarendon/Montgomery
Hayes/Sykes
McCoughtry
Breland
E. Williams/Stafford-McGhee

I'd probably try to keep T. Young to back Angel, hope Dantas is on board for 18, grab best available at #16 not bad


Why wouldn't Dantas be back? Brazil did not qualify for the World Cup.



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Breland is good replacement for Sancho. I know some of the Sky fans were not thrilled with her, but she seemed to do well against us. We finally have some depth at the PG position with two starter quality players. All new coaching staff, new players and Angel's return so it may take some time to get the team to gel.


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I wonder if they'd start Williams & Dantas with Breland & Imani off the bench?

PG: Clarendon/Montgomery
SG: Hayes/Sykes
SF: McCoughtry/draft pick
PF: Williams/Breland
C: Dantas/Stafford-McGhee



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I wonder if they'd start Williams & Dantas with Breland & Imani off the bench?

PG: Clarendon/Montgomery
SG: Hayes/Sykes
SF: McCoughtry/draft pick
PF: Williams/Breland
C: Dantas/Stafford-McGhee


Dantas is even less of a center than Williams



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Breland is good replacement for Sancho. I know some of the Sky fans were not thrilled with her, but she seemed to do well against us. We finally have some depth at the PG position with two starter quality players. All new coaching staff, new players and Angel's return so it may take some time to get the team to gel.

I was a Breland fan before the Sky acquired her. I am sad to see her leave. I wish her the best with her new team. Just not against the Sky of course! Very Happy



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PostPosted: 02/01/18 10:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I love Sancho, but I agree, she was losing a step and we need a PF who isn't putting up 97% of their shots from the elbow. She was great on defense and getting in the passing lane, but more was needed.


Breland and Montgomery are great additions to this team and I am very excited. I am hoping they don't trade Clarendon because having 2 true PGs who can also scoot to the 2 when needed is a great thing. It gives very needed depth off the bench.


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PostPosted: 02/01/18 10:29 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
Yeah I kind of think Young will reunite with Pokey in Indy, but Atl will need someone to back up Angel if Holmes is out for this season. I could see them drafting Hines-Allen at #16 or hoping one of Nared or S. Thomas lasts until #16. A. Montgomery played at GA Tech, maybe she ends up in Atl as Angel's backup.


I would expect mostly three guard sets when Angel is off the floor.

Richyyy wrote:
5 players for 120 perimeter minutes works out fine (albeit you'd like some cover for the inevitable injuries).


In theory, anyway. This assumes you've got five players willing to do 24 minutes/game or one or two OK with playing even less. I'm not sure that's the Dream situation.



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pilight wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
5 players for 120 perimeter minutes works out fine (albeit you'd like some cover for the inevitable injuries).


In theory, anyway. This assumes you've got five players willing to do 24 minutes/game or one or two OK with playing even less. I'm not sure that's the Dream situation.

Montgomery's been maxing out at 20ish for years (and shouldn't be playing any more than that). Plus you've got Angel maybe sliding over to play a little 4, and they won't all stay fit for 34 games. So I think that'd probably work out okay, but a 6th or 7th perimeter player might not get much of a look in without long-term injuries/absences.

By the way, do we have any actual confirmation that McCoughtry is definitely playing this year? I vaguely remember it being half-implied, but that's about it.



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I've seen nothing official. The team has said they "anticipate" her return.


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pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I wonder if they'd start Williams & Dantas with Breland & Imani off the bench?

PG: Clarendon/Montgomery
SG: Hayes/Sykes
SF: McCoughtry/draft pick
PF: Williams/Breland
C: Dantas/Stafford-McGhee


Dantas is even less of a center than Williams


As a rookie she worked out very well as the Lynx starting center.



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I wonder if they'd start Williams & Dantas with Breland & Imani off the bench?

PG: Clarendon/Montgomery
SG: Hayes/Sykes
SF: McCoughtry/draft pick
PF: Williams/Breland
C: Dantas/Stafford-McGhee


I'm quite happy with this lineup. Quite the veteran lineup for 1st & 2nd string. I think Dantas would do fine at the 5. And she & Williams could switch as needed. I am hoping Stafford-McGhee takes a good leap forward this season.


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pilight wrote:
toad455 wrote:
I wonder if they'd start Williams & Dantas with Breland & Imani off the bench?

PG: Clarendon/Montgomery
SG: Hayes/Sykes
SF: McCoughtry/draft pick
PF: Williams/Breland
C: Dantas/Stafford-McGhee


Dantas is even less of a center than Williams


As a rookie she worked out very well as the Lynx starting center.


My feelings about Dantas are affected by the way Michael Cooper used her. Hopefully Collen will keep her down in the paint.



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Collen’s making moves.

I guess Montgomery is from Atlanta. I hope it doesn’t become a trend that players want to return to their ATL roots. Embarassed



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I guess Montgomery is from Atlanta. I hope it doesn’t become a trend that players want to return to their ATL roots. Embarassed


She's not originally from Atlanta, she just lives there now. Quite a few current and former W players live in the Atlanta area.



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Not impressed with the Montgomery signing. If she becomes lead guard and they trade Clarendon, that’s a step backwards. Montgomery can knock down some big shots but she’s a terrible decision maker when she has the ball in her hands. It’ll be interesting to see how badly Sienko fucks this team up like he did in CT for years.


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Ay Mate wrote:
It’ll be interesting to see how badly Sienko fucks this team up like he did in CT for years.


Somewhere Thibault made it clear he was responsible for all player personnel decisions at the Sun. That’s why I refer to Sienko as the rubber stamp GM.



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Collen’s making moves.

I guess Montgomery is from Atlanta. I hope it doesn’t become a trend that players want to return to their ATL roots. Embarassed


Hahaha, I think you are safe for a bit there Shades. Not saying I wouldn't welcome her, but I think you don't have anything to worry about...yet? Wink


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Collen’s making moves.

I guess Montgomery is from Atlanta. I hope it doesn’t become a trend that players want to return to their ATL roots. Embarassed


Hahaha, I think you are safe for a bit there Shades. Not saying I wouldn't welcome her, but I think you don't have anything to worry about...yet? Wink


Why would I worry? She’s only the franchise.... and her contract is up after this season.



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“I spoke with Coach Collen for a long time and was very excited with the direction she wanted to take the franchise,” Montgomery added. “I could feel her passion over the phone so I’m excited to see what’s in store. I think this is an exciting time for Atlanta. With Chris Sienko and Coach Collen leading the way, I think the future looks good. Really really good.”



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Sancho Lyttle off to Phoenix.

http://mercury.wnba.com/news/mercury-signs-star-forward-sancho-lyttle/

No longer will I be able to shout, "SANCHO Y U SHOOT 3?"

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Yeah - will miss Sancho, and I hope they do a nice tribute to her like they did for Erika. Looks like Phoenix will be the perfect fit for her with her familiarity with the players and coach. She will help on defence which was a shortcoming for the Mercury. Wish her well.


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PostPosted: 02/04/18 8:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

wonder if the Dream is done with free agency or is there a trade in the works guess it depends on if Dantas or Angel returns. Cant see Ajavon or Morello returning.


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Ajavon can probably find a spot somewhere, but probably not the Dream - Lynx maybe? After the last 2 years can't see anyone wanting Morello, although she was doing pretty well in China (not that that is a high standard) so maybe she is finally healthy again.


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If this wasn’t done in previous seasons, it’s kind of genius of the new front office. Those little extras to make a player feel wanted could make all the difference.



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https://twitter.com/AtlantaDream/status/960514693013045249

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Angel signing? Breland signing? Machine Gun Maggie signing ? Jersey Sponsor? At least it looks like good news?


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If this wasn’t done in previous seasons, it’s kind of genius of the new front office. Those little extras to make a player feel wanted could make all the difference.


Yes, it's been up for every trip I've taken for work over the past year and a half or so.


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