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Who should win MVP? |
Tina Charles |
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6% |
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Elena Delle Donne |
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2% |
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Sylvia Fowles |
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65% |
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Brittney Griner |
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6% |
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Nneka Ogwumike |
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2% |
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someone else |
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17% |
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pilight
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Posted: 08/14/17 6:49 am ::: MVP |
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Ay Mate
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Posted: 08/14/17 8:29 am ::: |
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Fowles will win it, but I'm still going for JJ. The Lynx would still be winning games if Fowles didn't force her way onto the Lynx team a couple years ago. But the Sun would be no where near the top of the standings if it weren't for JJ. But it's a 'most valuable player of the league' award, not a 'most valuable player of a team' award. Plus, I'm a JJ and Sun homer.
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Rock Hard
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#Occasionalwnbafan
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Posted: 08/14/17 11:09 am ::: |
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I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
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toad455
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Posted: 08/14/17 11:25 am ::: |
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker sucked pretty badly yesterday against New York.
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 08/14/17 11:35 am ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker sucked pretty badly yesterday against New York. |
Wasn't just parker . The entire team did , but of course she gets the blame when they lose alot so .
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Michelle89
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Posted: 08/14/17 1:39 pm ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
toad455 wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker sucked pretty badly yesterday against New York. |
Wasn't just parker . The entire team did , but of course she gets the blame when they lose alot so . |
Probably because she doesnt play defense or makes any effort to box players out and then when on offense she also decides to keep on shooting bricks from the perimeter instead of attacking and driving then Agler and everyone else has a right to be a bit pissed off..
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 08/14/17 1:50 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
toad455 wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker sucked pretty badly yesterday against New York. |
Wasn't just parker . The entire team did , but of course she gets the blame when they lose alot so . |
Probably because she doesnt play defense or makes any effort to box players out and then when on offense she also decides to keep on shooting bricks from the perimeter instead of attacking and driving then Agler and everyone else has a right to be a bit pissed off.. |
14 & 7 for Candace
12 & 6 for Nneka ...so should everyone be pissed at nneka also ?
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Shades
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Posted: 08/14/17 1:56 pm ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
toad455 wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker sucked pretty badly yesterday against New York. |
Wasn't just parker . The entire team did , but of course she gets the blame when they lose alot so . |
Probably because she doesnt play defense or makes any effort to box players out and then when on offense she also decides to keep on shooting bricks from the perimeter instead of attacking and driving then Agler and everyone else has a right to be a bit pissed off.. |
14 & 7 for Candace
12 & 6 for Nneka ...so should everyone be pissed at nneka also ? |
Nneka's poor showing against the Lynx forced Parker to work harder and longer than she wanted.
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#Occasionalwnbafan
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Posted: 08/14/17 2:12 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
toad455 wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker sucked pretty badly yesterday against New York. |
Wasn't just parker . The entire team did , but of course she gets the blame when they lose alot so . |
Probably because she doesnt play defense or makes any effort to box players out and then when on offense she also decides to keep on shooting bricks from the perimeter instead of attacking and driving then Agler and everyone else has a right to be a bit pissed off.. |
And she played on another level, that’s what makes Parker an MVP to me.
14 & 7 for Candace
12 & 6 for Nneka ...so should everyone be pissed at nneka also ? |
Nneka's poor showing against the Lynx forced Parker to work harder and longer than she wanted. |
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justintyme
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Posted: 08/14/17 4:09 pm ::: |
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker definitely can play some outstanding basketball, but she seldom does it for an entire season. I'm sorry, but playing well "since the All-Star break" does not an MVP make.
For someone as talented as she is, she sure disappears a lot.
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Rock Hard
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toad455
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Posted: 08/14/17 6:18 pm ::: |
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With Griner & Delle Donne missing games due to injury/injuries, it's really a three player field. Fowles is, IMO, the clear choice. Then there's J. Jones & Tina Charles. N. Ogwumike would be fourth. After that, who knows.
MVP Rankings:
1. Fowles
2. J. Jones
3. Charles
4. N. Ogwumike
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5. Parker
6. Diggins
7. Stewart
8. Taurasi
9. A. Thomas
10. Vandersloot
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bballgrl
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Posted: 08/14/17 6:32 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
With Griner & Delle Donne missing games due to injury/injuries, it's really a three player field. Fowles is, IMO, the clear choice. Then there's J. Jones & Tina Charles. N. Ogwumike would be fourth. After that, who knows.
MVP Rankings:
1. Fowles
2. J. Jones
3. Charles
4. N. Ogwumike
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5. Parker
6. Diggins
7. Stewart
8. Taurasi
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Fowles will probably get it but my question is will they insert BG back in the running or are they just going to ignore her past #'s. She is still the leading scorer and blocks I believe. Sly has the best FG%. As far as Parker, with her numbers I don't think she should even be considered for MVP.
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Aladyyn
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Posted: 08/14/17 6:33 pm ::: |
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Sparks just beat the Lynx as Nneka put up 3 points on 1-8 from the field. If Parker has that kind of game they're not beating anyone. Nneka put up 28-13 and 27-14 in losses this season, if Parker has that kind of game the Sparks are winning it, period.
To me there's no question about which player is more valuable to the Sparks.
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justintyme
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Posted: 08/14/17 6:35 pm ::: |
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Aladyyn wrote: |
Sparks just beat the Lynx as Nneka put up 3 points on 1-8 from the field. If Parker has that kind of game they're not beating anyone. Nneka put up 28-13 and 27-14 in losses this season, if Parker has that kind of game the Sparks are winning it, period.
To me there's no question about which player is more valuable to the Sparks. |
I agree. It's Alana Beard.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 08/15/17 6:36 am ::: |
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bballgrl wrote: |
Fowles will probably get it but my question is will they insert BG back in the running or are they just going to ignore her past #'s. She is still the leading scorer and blocks I believe. |
She's the leader in them per game. I really don't think she's winning MVP playing 26 games (which is now the max she can play in). Not when there are other strong candidates.
If Fowles got hurt and missed the remainder of the Lynx schedule, maybe Griner gets back in the conversation, but even then it probably doesn't happen. |
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 08/15/17 8:09 am ::: |
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justintyme wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker definitely can play some outstanding basketball, but she seldom does it for an entire season. I'm sorry, but playing well "since the All-Star break" does not an MVP make.
For someone as talented as she is, she sure disappears a lot. |
But its ok for ROY ?
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justintyme
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Posted: 08/15/17 8:46 am ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker definitely can play some outstanding basketball, but she seldom does it for an entire season. I'm sorry, but playing well "since the All-Star break" does not an MVP make.
For someone as talented as she is, she sure disappears a lot. |
But its ok for ROY ? |
ROY has a tendency to not have any player that goes the full season without dissappearing for awhile. It is the nature of rookies. And if one does manage to not, they tend to run away with the award.
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 08/15/17 8:53 am ::: |
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justintyme wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker definitely can play some outstanding basketball, but she seldom does it for an entire season. I'm sorry, but playing well "since the All-Star break" does not an MVP make.
For someone as talented as she is, she sure disappears a lot. |
But its ok for ROY ? |
ROY has a tendency to not have any player that goes the full season without dissappearing for awhile. It is the nature of rookies. And if one does manage to not, they tend to run away with the award. |
Well sykes has made a case for 1/2 of a season on a team 2nd to last and people seem to think shes the ROY now.
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justintyme
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Posted: 08/15/17 9:16 am ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker definitely can play some outstanding basketball, but she seldom does it for an entire season. I'm sorry, but playing well "since the All-Star break" does not an MVP make.
For someone as talented as she is, she sure disappears a lot. |
But its ok for ROY ? |
ROY has a tendency to not have any player that goes the full season without dissappearing for awhile. It is the nature of rookies. And if one does manage to not, they tend to run away with the award. |
Well sykes has made a case for 1/2 of a season on a team 2nd to last and people seem to think shes the ROY now. |
She does have a case since there is only one other reasonable choice and that is Gray. And while Gray has had a solid season, she has also disappeared for significant stretches. I would still go with Gray, but a fairly strong case for Sykes can be made.
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Silky Johnson
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Posted: 08/15/17 9:54 am ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
I'm sure she won't win, but Parker has been playing some outstanding basketball since the All star break and has her team 7 and 3 since then. |
Parker definitely can play some outstanding basketball, but she seldom does it for an entire season. I'm sorry, but playing well "since the All-Star break" does not an MVP make.
For someone as talented as she is, she sure disappears a lot. |
But its ok for ROY ? |
ROY has a tendency to not have any player that goes the full season without dissappearing for awhile. It is the nature of rookies. And if one does manage to not, they tend to run away with the award. |
Well sykes has made a case for 1/2 of a season on a team 2nd to last and people seem to think shes the ROY now. |
<Pedant>
It's been more than "1/2 of a season," and you should really stop spreading that lie. It was more like the first half of the first half of the season. When you really get down to it, we're talking about a difference of three games. Sykes has only had three more low/no impact games than Gray has; the biggest difference is that Gray has had her bad games scattered throughout the season, and Sykes had most of hers all in a row. But that still doesn't add up to "1/2 of a season," no matter how you try to do the math on that.
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Also, FWIW, comparing games of 15+ points this season:
Gray: 11, in 29 games
Sykes: 12, in 28 games
... So, an argument could be made that Sykes has been putting up numbers for more of the season than Gray has.
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