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PostPosted: 08/12/17 9:31 am    ::: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

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PostPosted: 08/12/17 9:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I am a Dream STH and I am renewing



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 10:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

You know my thoughts. The callousness of the current Mercury regime led to mmaniac and I not renewing. I would like to hear from others regarding the perks offered and what prompted you to renew....or what pissed you off and made you not renew.



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 10:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was a season ticket holder for 11 seasons with the Sparks. I did not renew last year due to the game experience. Frequently there was only one concession stand opened in the entire arena, and it was staffed with the slowest workers possible. If you got in line prior to tip off, you were lucky to get to your seat by the start of the second quarter. The DJ during the game was loud and annoying. People continually jumped seats, and we often found people in our seats. Many times they wondered why we couldn't just sit somewhere else.

We had a very good sales person handling our account, but when he left, we had a series of people, one worse than the next. The owner prior to Magic and his team really hurt the operation.

I love the Sparks, and watch every game on TV or my laptop, but I would not want to be a ticket holder anymore. (Plus I miss Lil Mopey!)


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 10:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I have been a STH for several years. I always renewed as early as possible to get the best deal. I don't now plan to renew for a lot of reasons, none related to how the team is playing this year or the new arena which is more convenient for me. I've had to miss a lot of games and family members would rather go to watch the other teams in town. The price increases haven't helped either - would cost more than double to get tickets and parking compared to what I originally paid and you don't save much, if anything, by buying a ST. Bottom line - economics of going game by game are a lot better for me now.


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 10:56 am    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 11:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jewelsongs wrote:
The DJ during the game was loud and annoying.

We had a very good sales person handling our account, but when he left, we had a series of people, one worse than the next. The owner prior to Magic and his team really hurt the operation.


When we would road trip to LA we couldn't stand the DJ either. So, what did the Mercury add this year?

I also hear you re: your ticket rep. A good one goes a long way to make the experience better. But with those skills they typically move on to a better job elsewhere quickly.



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 11:58 am    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 12:13 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I've been a Storm STH for seven years and am considering not renewing. In the Storm fan FB group, there was a long thread about this topic right before the announcement about Boucek. Many people there were considering not renewing - including some who have had them for the team's whole history.

The in-game experience in terms of entertainment has deteriorated, but truthfully I'm just as happy looking at my phone during breaks. Other people have said that they resent not getting as many free t-shirts and the players aren't as accessible. I guess the players used to throw t-shirts after games and don't do that anymore, but I almost never stay after games. There were also no games with giveaways this year - or maybe one t-shirt giveaway at the beginning of the season? There used to be several each year - lunch boxes, bobbleheads, etc.

I wish there were more perks that came with being a season ticket holder. One year I got a pen, and seriously that was the single best perk I have ever gotten from the Storm (not a t-shirt person)! Last year there was an open practice, and I also loved that. I'm not a big fan of the party-type events.

Of course, what most people complained about most is the team performance. And on top of all this, prices went up by about 10%. The coaching change has me more inclined to renew. I'm happy with my seat, and $400/season still seems like a good deal.

This is the first year I've heard so many STHs talk about not renewing, but I've also heard they've had a big increase in season ticket sales.


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 12:21 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.



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The few games I've seen on TV look like it's a blast to be there. And the Sun might be the most exciting team to watch in the league this season. Seriously considering making a trip up there to catch a game(especially if they make the WNBA Finals).



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 12:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I recall seeing a "My Pillow" promo advertised for one of the Sun games. Not sure if they got the pillow or just a discount on one. Thought it was odd because My Pillow is a MN company.

What is My Pillow you ask? They advertise constantly on CNBC.

https://www.mypillow.com/?gclid=CMqg84ae0tUCFUc7gQodHV0Mmw?gclid=CMqg84ae0tUCFUc7gQodHV0Mmw


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 1:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
I recall seeing a "My Pillow" promo advertised for one of the Sun games. Not sure if they got the pillow or just a discount on one. Thought it was odd because My Pillow is a MN company.

What is My Pillow you ask? They advertise constantly on CNBC.

https://www.mypillow.com/?gclid=CMqg84ae0tUCFUc7gQodHV0Mmw?gclid=CMqg84ae0tUCFUc7gQodHV0Mmw



The owner guy always exudes Minnesota pride in the local commercials shown here. I tried to get some answers on twitter as to why they sponsor the Sun instead of the Lynx, but nobody's talking.



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We had season tickets for years, then had to give them up for two seasons, and came back this year. We won't ever sign up again. Why?

1. The price is outrageous when you factor it all in. Over $100 per game for two people and that is with no overpriced food. Tickets cost way too much.
2. There are no meaningful perks to being a STH anymore. It used to feel like we were a little part of the team. Now it feels like we are a mailing list for more requests for money.
3. The league largely feels like amateur hour in how they do things. Not the players, but the league around them.
4. Too many boring games. Too many bad teams.
5. Fan interest online has waned (like here).

We used to feel like being a WNBA STH was the most awesome thing. My guitar room downstairs is filled with bobble heads, signed sneakers, posters, towels, balls. That feeling is gone. I have asked myself a lot "Is it just me?" But I am pretty sure this is the result of choices by the WNBA and the Lynx. STHs are just a cash cow...one they don't think needs feeding.



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Yes, because I am a glutton for punishment.

The upper people in the Sky organization are incompetent as fuck, but mostly everyone else is good people and they're very willing to accommodate us. Getting to know the players and coaches is a lot of fun. Free food is fun. Basketball is fun. The product is, for what it's worth, presented well, and I always have a good time, so that's good enough reason for me to have season tickets.

Not sure about renewing yet. Wintrust Arena is in an awful location for me and I don't know what I'm going to be doing with school/internships next summer. A ton of other Sky STH who live in the suburbs have already decided that they're not renewing. I'm like 60/40 on going back at the moment, so if anyone wants to prod me, now would be the time.



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MuneravenMN wrote:
We had season tickets for years, then had to give them up for two seasons, and came back this year. We won't ever sign up again. Why?


2. There are no meaningful perks to being a STH anymore. It used to feel like we were a little part of the team. Now it feels like we are a mailing list for more requests for money.


A lot of churches are like that with similar results.


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Sad to hear a lot of the comments in this thread. A lot of major sports can get away with treating their base like crap because there are people waiting in line to hand over their money instead if the first group walk away, but a niche league like the WNBA can't afford to alienate their small core of diehards. There are only so many people who give a shit about this league, and only so many who look likely to for the forseeable future. It's really a shame that so many people are thinking about walking away.

And that LA in-arena announcer is annoying as fuck through a computer screen from several thousand miles away. I can totally understand that being excruciating in person.



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 2:10 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


This surprises me since I always heard Phoenix was one of the good ones.

I had season tickets in Indianapolis when I lived there but gave them up when I moved to a city without a WNBA team. I still try to get to as many games as possible. I did hear a lot of Fever season ticket holders gave theirs up when Catchings retired.


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 2:19 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.



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The few games I've seen on TV look like it's a blast to be there. And the Sun might be the most exciting team to watch in the league this season. Seriously considering making a trip up there to catch a game(especially if they make the WNBA Finals).


I was at the last game against Seattle and trust me, the arena was full, and very very loud. Very energetic atmosphere, tons of t-shirt tossing throughout the entire game. The mascot has a mobile multi-bazooka that shoots out t-shirts to the upper levels. They have a lot of fun and entertaining videos on the Jumbotron during timeouts. The dance team is about the worst I've ever seen though but other than that, it's awesome. It also helps when the team is playing great. If I could be, I'd be a season ticket holder. They don't do much in the give-away's department anymore though. But i don't think any team does. But if your one to go to games to get the stupid give-always, and get angry and don't renew season tickets because they don't do give-aways anymore, than thats their problem. We go for the games and to cheer on the players. I don't give a shit about giveaways. Never have. At the Sun game tonight, they're having specials $3 beer and $3 wine and $2 giant chocolate bars. Amber Cox really knows how to get people in the arena. Last game against Seattle, it was $2 hotdog night and the hotdogs there are massive. Mohegan Sun arena knows how to put on a show.


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 2:34 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
toad455 wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.



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The few games I've seen on TV look like it's a blast to be there. And the Sun might be the most exciting team to watch in the league this season. Seriously considering making a trip up there to catch a game(especially if they make the WNBA Finals).


I was at the last game against Seattle and trust me, the arena was full, and very very loud. Very energetic atmosphere, tons of t-shirt tossing throughout the entire game. The mascot has a mobile multi-bazooka that shoots out t-shirts to the upper levels. They have a lot of fun and entertaining videos on the Jumbotron during timeouts. The dance team is about the worst I've ever seen though but other than that, it's awesome. It also helps when the team is playing great. If I could be, I'd be a season ticket holder. They don't do much in the give-away's department anymore though. But i don't think any team does. But if your one to go to games to get the stupid give-always, and get angry and don't renew season tickets because they don't do give-aways anymore, than thats their problem. We go for the games and to cheer on the players. I don't give a shit about giveaways. Never have. At the Sun game tonight, they're having specials $3 beer and $3 wine and $2 giant chocolate bars. Amber Cox really knows how to get people in the arena. Last game against Seattle, it was $2 hotdog night and the hotdogs there are massive. Mohegan Sun arena knows how to put on a show.


I'm not interested in the giveaways (except the pen I mentioned), but i still think they're important, especially for season ticket holders. The product these teams sell is game tickets - people who buy tickets to every single game for years on end should be rewarded in some way other than just the ticket discount. The discount in Seattle is not that great. There are always a few games that I can't go to, and the tickets are not easy to sell so I end up giving them away. The discount is probably offset by the money lost on unused tickets. They could buy a lot more loyalty from me with a single seat upgrade or parking pass each year - or even less often than once a year. And a $2 hotdog night would be nice. They are $8 at Keyarena and they taste like crap compared to the ones you can get at Costco with a soda for $1.50.


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I'm not because I've never lived in a WNBA city. I'm from metro Atlanta but have not resided there since before the league started. I do try to go to games when I'm home visiting my family and spent a number of years in the midwest where I could hop over to Fever games and even went to check out Chicago. I've been to games in DC as well. I would love to be a STH so I could support the league more tangibly. We need more teams in other cities but I understand that we are not quite ready to expand just yet... My goodness, how I miss the Detroit Shock! *le sigh* Laughing


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PostPosted: 08/12/17 10:32 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I am a season ticket-holder and I am definitely renewing.

I mainly renew because I want to support women' sports, and professional women's sports. I want the WNBA to be successful and to continue on. The fact that the games are extremely fun are a bonus. I personally don't care about the perks.




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threadkiller1201 wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I am a season ticket-holder and I am definitely renewing.

I mainly renew because I want to support women' sports, and professional women's sports. I want the WNBA to be successful and to continue on. The fact that the games are extremely fun are a bonus. I don't care about the perks.


I would love to be able to support them just because I love womens sports but I gave up corporate America for the non profit world and my disposable income has become very precious. I don't care to give it to an organization that doesn't even try to care. I will still support the W, I will get League Pass, I will buy merchandise, even attend a few Mercury games but that's it.



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PostPosted: 08/12/17 11:48 pm    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

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This surprises me since I always heard Phoenix was one of the good ones.

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Was.
We lost Amber Cox who was the best GM, she just really is able to connect with fans.
And also they got rid of a guy named Kip Heldt, a genius of a man who did all the great in game entertainment and special videos. Cappie Patch Doll is a freakin classic!
I miss them both so much.



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Mystics STH. We've renewed for next year, but probably won't move to the new arena. It's farther away, in a pretty desolate area. We're assuming that the WNBA games will be the only events held there during the season, which means the concessions will be limited, at best. STHs get a food credit per ticket, which can be used for overpriced hot dogs, burgers, tiny pizza, or prefab chicken planks.
Since Detrimental Sports blacks out the league pass broadcasts in the DC area, we won't be able to reliably see games - their home grown broadcast continually freezes, IF it's even available.
Games perks would be nice, but those of us in the cheap seats are used to seeing t-shirts thrown to the same people in the first ten rows every game.


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PostPosted: 08/13/17 8:26 am    ::: Re: Are you a Season Ticket Holder? Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.


Because the casino comps got drastically rolled back or eliminated altogether Playoffs will be the only way I'll see this.

I know how Merc fans feel...Poor management and rep turnover had me ready to drop my tickets 3 times in the late 2ks.

Kristin Bernert (and by succession Keia Clarke) have made Lib games fun even when the team isn't at it's best (like this season) I've had fun at home games this year despite some frusturating losses

Pre bernert could say a loss was like a root canal and you were only in it for the people on the court.

It matters...A Lot.

Yes WE renewed and will be doing thieir monthly payment option.... But ill say it I see most every arena in the league...currently I'd say there are maybe 4 I'd buy Season tickets to (Libs included) Not good when someone as invested in the sport as I am says that



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Not a season ticket holder. I live in Texas, but I am 4+ hours away from either team. However, I have attended many games in SA and their front office has been amazing to work with. If only it was 2011 and the Stars were what they once were.
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caune wrote:
threadkiller1201 wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I am a season ticket-holder and I am definitely renewing.

I mainly renew because I want to support women' sports, and professional women's sports. I want the WNBA to be successful and to continue on. The fact that the games are extremely fun are a bonus. I don't care about the perks.


I would love to be able to support them just because I love womens sports but I gave up corporate America for the non profit world and my disposable income has become very precious. I don't care to give it to an organization that doesn't even try to care. I will still support the W, I will get League Pass, I will buy merchandise, even attend a few Mercury games but that's it.


Yes, I do feel lucky that I can afford to be a season ticket-holder, this may change when I retire or I may drop down to a cheaper seat, but still support.


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Happycappie25 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.


Because the casino comps got drastically rolled back or eliminated altogether Playoffs will be the only way I'll see this.

I know how Merc fans feel...Poor management and rep turnover had me ready to drop my tickets 3 times in the late 2ks.

Kristin Bernert (and by succession Keia Clarke) have made Lib games fun even when the team isn't at it's best (like this season) I've had fun at home games this year despite some frusturating losses

Pre bernert could say a loss was like a root canal and you were only in it for the people on the court.

It matters...A Lot.

Yes WE renewed and will be doing thieir monthly payment option.... But ill say it I see most every arena in the league...currently I'd say there are maybe 4 I'd buy Season tickets to (Libs included) Not good when someone as invested in the sport as I am says that


The play on the Court, minus the refs lol, isn't really the issue. remember, I've been here since day one and hung in during things like hiring Cynthia Cooper, drafting Tootie Shaw and the dreaded "chucky" Tamicha Jackson seasons lol



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Im a Wings STH and im renewing soley bcuz of optimism based off Liz Camb*tch & a possibility of Ping Pongs Bringing Us Diamond or Aja In Next Yrs Draft. We honestly cant get any worse of a pick than #5 so I know an impact player will be in dallas next season!!



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merlina wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I've been a Storm STH for seven years and am considering not renewing. In the Storm fan FB group, there was a long thread about this topic right before the announcement about Boucek. Many people there were considering not renewing - including some who have had them for the team's whole history.

The in-game experience in terms of entertainment has deteriorated, but truthfully I'm just as happy looking at my phone during breaks. Other people have said that they resent not getting as many free t-shirts and the players aren't as accessible. I guess the players used to throw t-shirts after games and don't do that anymore, but I almost never stay after games. There were also no games with giveaways this year - or maybe one t-shirt giveaway at the beginning of the season? There used to be several each year - lunch boxes, bobbleheads, etc.

I wish there were more perks that came with being a season ticket holder. One year I got a pen, and seriously that was the single best perk I have ever gotten from the Storm (not a t-shirt person)! Last year there was an open practice, and I also loved that. I'm not a big fan of the party-type events.

Of course, what most people complained about most is the team performance. And on top of all this, prices went up by about 10%. The coaching change has me more inclined to renew. I'm happy with my seat, and $400/season still seems like a good deal.

This is the first year I've heard so many STHs talk about not renewing, but I've also heard they've had a big increase in season ticket sales.


400???!! Shocked The lowest a wings STH can pay is 700! Wtf Prices range between 700-1000 . Wow



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Happycappie25 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.


Because the casino comps got drastically rolled back or eliminated altogether Playoffs will be the only way I'll see this.

I know how Merc fans feel...Poor management and rep turnover had me ready to drop my tickets 3 times in the late 2ks.

Kristin Bernert (and by succession Keia Clarke) have made Lib games fun even when the team isn't at it's best (like this season) I've had fun at home games this year despite some frusturating losses

Pre bernert could say a loss was like a root canal and you were only in it for the people on the court.

It matters...A Lot.

Yes WE renewed and will be doing thieir monthly payment option.... But ill say it I see most every arena in the league...currently I'd say there are maybe 4 I'd buy Season tickets to (Libs included) Not good when someone as invested in the sport as I am says that


Every person that has a players card for the casino gets offers for free tickets to every single regular season Sun game whether they play at the casino or not. I have a friend who has a players card, but rarely ever plays at the casino and he gets free ticket offers for every single game. He just has to reserve the free tickets, and then pick them up at the arena club at the casino on game days. He says when he goes, there is always a huge lineup for the free tickets.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
merlina wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I've been a Storm STH for seven years and am considering not renewing. In the Storm fan FB group, there was a long thread about this topic right before the announcement about Boucek. Many people there were considering not renewing - including some who have had them for the team's whole history.

The in-game experience in terms of entertainment has deteriorated, but truthfully I'm just as happy looking at my phone during breaks. Other people have said that they resent not getting as many free t-shirts and the players aren't as accessible. I guess the players used to throw t-shirts after games and don't do that anymore, but I almost never stay after games. There were also no games with giveaways this year - or maybe one t-shirt giveaway at the beginning of the season? There used to be several each year - lunch boxes, bobbleheads, etc.

I wish there were more perks that came with being a season ticket holder. One year I got a pen, and seriously that was the single best perk I have ever gotten from the Storm (not a t-shirt person)! Last year there was an open practice, and I also loved that. I'm not a big fan of the party-type events.

Of course, what most people complained about most is the team performance. And on top of all this, prices went up by about 10%. The coaching change has me more inclined to renew. I'm happy with my seat, and $400/season still seems like a good deal.

This is the first year I've heard so many STHs talk about not renewing, but I've also heard they've had a big increase in season ticket sales.


400???!! Shocked The lowest a wings STH can pay is 700! Wtf Prices range between 700-1000 . Wow


Is the Wings website wrong because it looks like you could have got 400 dollar season tickets

http://wings.wnba.com/tickets/season-memberships/


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Ay Mate wrote:
Happycappie25 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


The Sun are reaping the benefits of Amber Cox. I went to some Sun games this year and they're much more enjoyable than years past. The entire arena has a different vibe to it.


Because the casino comps got drastically rolled back or eliminated altogether Playoffs will be the only way I'll see this.

I know how Merc fans feel...Poor management and rep turnover had me ready to drop my tickets 3 times in the late 2ks.

Kristin Bernert (and by succession Keia Clarke) have made Lib games fun even when the team isn't at it's best (like this season) I've had fun at home games this year despite some frusturating losses

Pre bernert could say a loss was like a root canal and you were only in it for the people on the court.

It matters...A Lot.

Yes WE renewed and will be doing thieir monthly payment option.... But ill say it I see most every arena in the league...currently I'd say there are maybe 4 I'd buy Season tickets to (Libs included) Not good when someone as invested in the sport as I am says that


Every person that has a players card for the casino gets offers for free tickets to every single regular season Sun game whether they play at the casino or not. I have a friend who has a players card, but rarely ever plays at the casino and he gets free ticket offers for every single game. He just has to reserve the free tickets, and then pick them up at the arena club at the casino on game days. He says when he goes, there is always a huge lineup for the free tickets.


Not every person. HC and I both have cards, and we haven't been able to get free tickets for months. Early in the season, they weren't showing up as offers, but you could call and ask, but now they're not even providing that.



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caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


Wow Caune. Didn't know things were so bad in Mercuryland for them to lose their #1 fan. I remember meeting you years ago after a Phoenix/LA game at the bar around the corner from the arena & thought how cool that the Phoenix fans hang out after games. In LA everyone is out as fast as possible because it may be a long way home. Or maybe I'm just getting too old to hang out! Anyway, to answer your question, yes, I'm renewing my Sparks tickets, although I was on the fence. Luckily I still have good friends that have season tickets, or I probably would not renew. I haven't been able to make many games in the last couple years, but I trade with them so they don't go unused & I can get more for any game if I want. I do renew partly to support female athletes. I'm not as in to the league as I used to be, but it's still fun & LA is doing great, so for now it's a yes. I don't care a bit about giveaways, although I would love a photo with Magic! Maybe I'll suggest that to my great rep Smile


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WNBA 09 wrote:
merlina wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I've been a Storm STH for seven years and am considering not renewing. In the Storm fan FB group, there was a long thread about this topic right before the announcement about Boucek. Many people there were considering not renewing - including some who have had them for the team's whole history.

The in-game experience in terms of entertainment has deteriorated, but truthfully I'm just as happy looking at my phone during breaks. Other people have said that they resent not getting as many free t-shirts and the players aren't as accessible. I guess the players used to throw t-shirts after games and don't do that anymore, but I almost never stay after games. There were also no games with giveaways this year - or maybe one t-shirt giveaway at the beginning of the season? There used to be several each year - lunch boxes, bobbleheads, etc.

I wish there were more perks that came with being a season ticket holder. One year I got a pen, and seriously that was the single best perk I have ever gotten from the Storm (not a t-shirt person)! Last year there was an open practice, and I also loved that. I'm not a big fan of the party-type events.

Of course, what most people complained about most is the team performance. And on top of all this, prices went up by about 10%. The coaching change has me more inclined to renew. I'm happy with my seat, and $400/season still seems like a good deal.

This is the first year I've heard so many STHs talk about not renewing, but I've also heard they've had a big increase in season ticket sales.


400???!! Shocked The lowest a wings STH can pay is 700! Wtf Prices range between 700-1000 . Wow


The cheapest season tickets for the Storm are around $200.


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I'm been with the Minnesota Lynx since the beginning -19 years. Next season is the 20th and its going to be special.

I have already gotten my season tickets for next year. The best $37 i'll spend next year. I have two tickets and do the monthly plan, so it'll cost me $100.00 a month. My sister has a season ticket and she comes up from Iowa.
This is a family affair. The seats are right on the center line, 21 rows up. The first 12 years the Lynx were awful but my mom came up from southern Minnesota and loved the Lynx even though we lost more than we won. Thank goodness she was able to see the Minnesota Lynx win the Championship in 2011 before she died. Memories i will always treasure.

I come from a time before Title nine where I wish professional basketball was around so i want to support women's basketball. I know that you can support the team with out being a season ticket holder but I prefer to be a season ticket holder. I feel invested in the team.

Why:
I love basketball, win or lose. I found out early on, if I was going to enjoy the games, I needed to enjoy all aspects of the game and not just if we won or loss. I use to get upset about refs and still sometimes do, but it's not worth getting worked up about the calls. All teams have games where the refs are bad. I see that as part of the game. Don't get me wrong, I hope one day, I don't see games that are influenced by the refs but until then, i'm not sweating it.

I like the team, coach and organization. The players and Coach are good at what they do but better people. Early on I wanted the GM fired many times but things have worked out so i'm not so ready to have him gone now. I like what they are doing. They had to make some tough decisions early on that cut down on game day experience. The half time entertainment is not so hot. Mostly court games with the fans. I don't need a half time show. They don't give away as many shirts..I don't care. I just care that the Minnesota Lynx are in the black. Being in the black is the only way the league is going to survive. I also like that they can keep the ticket prices low so I can afford them.

The other perks I like is I can bank tickets so if I miss a game, i can move it to another game. Just had 5 of my family come and enjoy the LA game with me...even though we lost.

If i want to sell my tickets, there is a online app that I can sell them. Real easy.

If i need an extra ticket for a friend, i get it at the season ticket rate

Post game talks with the coaches
Draft day get together and viewing parties
and many more.........

It's troubling to hear the bad experiences that some of the season ticket holders are having with their teams but it sounds like if you don't get season tickets, at least you'll keep supporting the WNBA and your team
and that is a good thing!

Yes, the league struggles in many areas but we just need to be vocal and keep telling the organizations how they can do better. I hope that the experiences will get better and that the league will be around for many years to come.


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So it looks like The Liberty has found
a way to get STH's to renew for next year...

WIN GAMES

Like they did today against LA

Can just hear those Liberty Reps making Monday morning phone calls Razz



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I echo what all the Libs fans are saying. For me, number one is the on-court product. I don't need in-game entertainment. The game is my entertainment and honestly at games I guess I'm probably everyone else's entertainment around me anyway.

HOWEVER, and this is a big however, organizational stability is of huge importance to me. And this is a very stable organization on the basketball side of it, from the reps to all the basketball people. One thing I hated about the Blaze era that ultimately drove me away from season tickets for a few years was the haphazard way you'd see team-building and planning. Going from a gritty, tough defensive team to a soft-as-Charmin defensive team built around Becky in every way including the advertising on TV grated on me after awhile. Becky did eventually become a great player, with her best years after the trade. But then you had the pretty fun '07 team with the 3 point shooting that challenged Detroit. In '08, the same as far as coming within an eyelash of beating Detroit in the ECF with a team that had gradually added size and speed. Now at the end of '08 going into '09 you had them unsuccessfully trying to transform into a Detroit-style of team but Blaze forgot that besides size and athleticism having people to score, handle and pass usually aided winning. So I was one angry dude for all of '09, culminating with what I knew at the time was the idiotic Sidney Spencer trade. Then back to a 3-ball shooting team in 2010 before Blaze was mercifully (for me) let go.

Today we have excellent ticket reps, strong management, numerous people involved in player development, a stable style of play and structure. Even last week when I thought maybe the Libs should start Zahui. Vaughn immediately has two strong games, the team wins 3 straight, and we basically know why Laimbeer is one of the league's top all-time coaches and I'm a dummy sitting here posting stuff.

But anyway, the point is that for me, I want structure and stability on the basketball side. Add in very accommodating ticket reps and season tickets at midcourt for $35 per game in NYC (where stuff is super expensive), unparalleled team access on social media and I have no complaints at all. Honestly, it's easy to forget when the team does frustrating things on the court, but if you're a Libs season-ticket holder these days you're actually pretty lucky.



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lynxmania wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
merlina wrote:
caune wrote:
I wanted to open this conversation to see who is a STH, why or whether you are renewing and what makes your experience worth shelling out a chunk of money way before the next season starts

I, after 21 seasons, have not renewed due to many factors but mostly neglect from the organization. I have heard that there are others like me in other cities including Minnesota. True? rumor?

I'm still a huge fan of the W and the Mercury, but the games aren't fun anymore and there are many factors that contribute to that, but for me personally the refs have made the game unwatchable without huge quantities of alcohol lol, and a girl has to drive home so that's a no-no, and the Mercury organization got rid of Kip Heldt the game entertainment genius and Amber Cox the friendliest and most responsive executive in the business. Their absence really shows on game days.

Any thoughts?


I've been a Storm STH for seven years and am considering not renewing. In the Storm fan FB group, there was a long thread about this topic right before the announcement about Boucek. Many people there were considering not renewing - including some who have had them for the team's whole history.

The in-game experience in terms of entertainment has deteriorated, but truthfully I'm just as happy looking at my phone during breaks. Other people have said that they resent not getting as many free t-shirts and the players aren't as accessible. I guess the players used to throw t-shirts after games and don't do that anymore, but I almost never stay after games. There were also no games with giveaways this year - or maybe one t-shirt giveaway at the beginning of the season? There used to be several each year - lunch boxes, bobbleheads, etc.

I wish there were more perks that came with being a season ticket holder. One year I got a pen, and seriously that was the single best perk I have ever gotten from the Storm (not a t-shirt person)! Last year there was an open practice, and I also loved that. I'm not a big fan of the party-type events.

Of course, what most people complained about most is the team performance. And on top of all this, prices went up by about 10%. The coaching change has me more inclined to renew. I'm happy with my seat, and $400/season still seems like a good deal.

This is the first year I've heard so many STHs talk about not renewing, but I've also heard they've had a big increase in season ticket sales.


400???!! Shocked The lowest a wings STH can pay is 700! Wtf Prices range between 700-1000 . Wow


Is the Wings website wrong because it looks like you could have got 400 dollar season tickets

http://wings.wnba.com/tickets/season-memberships/



They adjusted the prices sometime during the season. I know if you would have saw that same website before the season started the lowest was 700 and the highest was 1000. I remember complaining about this at the beginning of the season also and when i was told about other teams prices i brought this up to some people and magically the prices are different Laughing Laughing



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Sparks STH from year 1. Am on the fence about renewal for next season. We have the highest priced seats in the arena (face value $60) and they are going up 7 bux next season. If I stay it's for the love of the game, but will likely move my seats to a less expensive area. If I go it will be because I have lost some of the enthusiasm I once had, there are really no perks for STHs (not many give aways or anything), and DJ Malsky ran out of new stuff years ago and is now just a pest.



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I am a STH (but you knew this caune) and I renewed. But I thought about it long and hard. And have second guessed the decision to do so more than once. And for many of the reasons you mentioned.

The games are just not fun any more and for me, it has more to do with officiating than anything. I have always detested the ability of officials to change the momentum of a game and take the crowd out. And it happens all the time and with a greater frequency. The video review system has got to change. They need to watch game film to learn that the players really can make the plays they do instead of making an "anticipation" call that is wrong because they don't realize the caliber of talent on the court.

As a Mercury fan, I dislike that DT has the highest number of technical every year but as a fan watching the game, I totally understand why. She stands up to bad calls. I wish more players would do the same.

It has become my habit when I go to games to see who the officials are before game to see if we have a chance of winning. Not because I think the officials target the Mercury (with the exception of Tom Mauer who seems to try and "bait' DT into losing it and relishes when he can make a bad call against her) but more that, in their badness we will never be able to play the game they way we need in order to win.

So why did I renew? Because if I don't, I walk away forever. It used to be that I did not want to lose my "seniority" but the Mercury organization is taking care of that for me. I have moved all over the arena. Bought and paid for 2 to 6 season tickets per year (and it is only me). And I have had my tickets since the first pre-season game. But many of the real "perks" are being given to the person who meets a certain price threshold and the length of your commitment as a STH means nothing.

Wish I knew that my friends were not going to be across the arena when I go to games. Knowing that just might have saved me a few bucks. But I do have an extra seat for each game and usually can't go to every one. So, caune, give me call if you are interested in taking in a game next season on me.


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I was a STH for the Storm from 2003 through 2012. I've continued to go to 3-4 games a year since then; they main factor for me in giving up my season tickets was related to traffic and travel time. I live 60 miles south of Seattle, and in the early years, the commute was 60-75 minutes consistently. It's been years since we made it in under 2 hours - it took almost 3 hours to get there for opening night this year.

We bought a 6 pack of tickets this year because it allowed us priority for the ASG. Being inside Key Arena is still one of my favorite places to be in the world. Unfortunately, it's tough to justify the expenses (gas, parking, tickets) plus the hours spent in traffic when the product hasn't been as consistently enjoyable. Yes, we were spoiled - those seasons with very few home losses were wonderful. The drive home was happy. It's a long trip down I5 after a disappointing loss.

The adrenaline of a win was a real chemical fix. The arena was packed. We were LOUD. 6,000 attendance nights made you look around and wonder where everyone was. We impacted the outcome of the game with our noise (Remember Stephanie White at the free throw line in 2005?). A long drive for a half empty arena and a losing team was not very appealing. I never intended to be a fair-weather fan; I still watch and follow, just can't make the ST commitment.

The team has definitely not ignored me, however! I get multiple calls and e-mails every year, during the season and the off-season, trying to get me to games. Storm ticket reps have always been great. But I do agree with the people saying the team has been less accessible, etc. Fewer team events, giveaways, post game stuff, all that. The game day experience has declined as well. We had some of the funniest videos played during games (Stormy Awards, Between Two Birds, etc). Where has that stuff gone?

I'm so sad to hear how many long time fans are choosing not to renew and that they feel the game experience isn't what it once was. Sad


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My STH rep answers questions quickly. That's it. I guess when the team wins it means that prices go way up and perks go way down.

I'm a shy person and it isn't like I expect lots of special attention. But boy do I miss just a few chances to say hi to a player or get to know other STHs a little.

My former STH neighbor from past seasons died a few months ago. My name and number was still in her wallet. That's how it used to be.



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MuneravenMN wrote:
My STH rep answers questions quickly. That's it. I guess when the team wins it means that prices go way up and perks go way down.

I'm a shy person and it isn't like I expect lots of special attention. But boy do I miss just a few chances to say hi to a player or get to know other STHs a little.

My former STH neighbor from past seasons died a few months ago. My name and number was still in her wallet. That's how it used to be.
Sorry about your former sth neighbor. Since I started 21 years ago 3 of the women that sat in our section have died. 😢 The Mercury used to feel more like a very large family. That's been gone since Amber left.



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Dream don't seem very aggressive this year about ST sales. In prior years the WNBA Pres would show up and they would have an event to meet her, and maybe some players, and/or the owners to sort of kick off renewal season. Is this going on in other cities? Or was this just something in the Richie era that Borders has dropped?


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Randy wrote:
Dream don't seem very aggressive this year about ST sales. In prior years the WNBA Pres would show up and they would have an event to meet her, and maybe some players, and/or the owners to sort of kick off renewal season. Is this going on in other cities? Or was this just something in the Richie era that Borders has dropped?


Donna O also did that.



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I am a Storm season ticket holder since 2004. I will be renewing again this year (row 2 courtside seats). A few years ago, I almost stopped renewing. It was a very agonizing decision. Just like you, the games stopped being fun for me to go to and I figured I had better things to do with my time and money. But I eventually caved and now get to see Stewie and Jewel come into their own. Every so often, I still have games that aren't fun for me. Whether crappy coaching decisions or sucky refs. But for now, I will be going for my 15 season.



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21 year STH. I renewed. The cost of my seat was reduced quite a bit but I have to pay extra for the parking. That's ok because it is still not all that bad.



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