RebKell's Junkie Boards
Board Junkies Forums
 
Log in Register FAQ Memberlist Search RebKell's Junkie Boards Forum Index

ROY
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    RebKell's Junkie Boards Forum Index » WNBA
View previous topic :: View next topic  

Who should win Rookie of the Year?
Allisha Gray
52%
 52%  [ 21 ]
Brittney Sykes
42%
 42%  [ 17 ]
Stephanie Talbot
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
someone else
5%
 5%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 40

Author Message
pilight



Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 66912
Location: Where the action is


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 6:50 am    ::: ROY Reply Reply with quote

Monday Poll time!



_________________
I'm a lonely frog
I ain't got a home
zune69



Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 8183



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 6:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sykes.


Ay Mate



Joined: 12 Nov 2016
Posts: 1280



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 7:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Sykes.


I switched to Sykes as well.


WNBA 09



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 12537
Location: Dallas , Texas


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 8:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Grays body of work speaks for itself.



_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
Michelle89



Joined: 17 Nov 2010
Posts: 16464
Location: Holland


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 8:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Grays FG% has dropped to 37,7% and 26,6 % from 3. Sykes is 42,6 from the field a nice 38,6% from 3. My vote would go to her right now.



_________________
"Sue Bird and Lauren Jackson were and are the dynamic duo. They're the one-two punch. They're all the clich�s possible to describe people that perfectly complement each other, who make each other better and also bring out the best in the team." �Karen Bryant
Ay Mate



Joined: 12 Nov 2016
Posts: 1280



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 8:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Grays body of work speaks for itself.


Gray has started to hit that dreaded rookie wall. Sykes started off slower but has really heated up as of late. If she keeps going at her current pace, and Gray keeps going at her current place, it should be in Sykes favor by the end of the season.


WNBA 09



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 12537
Location: Dallas , Texas


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 8:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So because a player who did absolutely nothing the 1st 10 games starts getting hot the latter half she gets the nod over hte player who has played a steady pace since game 1 and seems to be hitting a slump for the last 3 games or so ? Rolling Eyes



_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
zune69



Joined: 27 May 2010
Posts: 8183



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
So because a player who did absolutely nothing the 1st 10 games starts getting hot the latter half she gets the nod over hte player who has played a steady pace since game 1 and seems to be hitting a slump for the last 3 games or so ? Rolling Eyes


Can't blame Sykes for playing 26 total minutes(5.2 mpg) in the first 5 games.Sykes is putting up nearly the same numbers as Gray despite playing 25% less minutes.

Last 15 gms:
14.9p/4.5r/1.7a/42%/40%/73% in 26.7 mpg---Sykes has hit 36 of her last 38 free throws after hitting only 3 of 13 during a two game stretch.

Gray has been solid,but Sykes is playing like a beast.


WNBA 09



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 12537
Location: Dallas , Texas


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Or does this have more to do with ATL needing to find there next star and dallas already having Diggins and possibly cambage next season so the feel good story of Sykes being the next big thing in a market that needs that future doll too hard to pass up ?



_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
Ay Mate



Joined: 12 Nov 2016
Posts: 1280



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Or does this have more to do with ATL needing to find there next star and dallas already having Diggins and possibly cambage next season so the feel good story of Sykes being the next big thing in a market that needs that future doll too hard to pass up ?


Your being a homer. Disagree with everything u said here. I also said if Sykes keeps steady and keeps upping her game while Gray's shooting percentages keep regressing the rest of the season, Sykes should win.

And Dallas would actually benefit from having a ROY 'doll' more than Atlanta because Dallas thus far has been probably the worst market in the league since moving from Tulsa. There was more fan support and attendance in Tulsa in their last season than has been in Dallas so far.


Shades



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63776



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

People voted on reflex last week and didn't looking at the numbers, and now they're flipping their vote.
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92148&start=14



_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
WNBA 09



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Posts: 12537
Location: Dallas , Texas


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
People voted on reflex last week and didn't looking at the numbers, and now they're flipping their vote.
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92148&start=14



My point exactly....And yes im a homer duhh Cool Gray has been the most consisten rookie over the entirety of the season not just the last 2 or 3 weeks so im sticking with my vote. A . Gray ROY 2018



_________________
3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
Jet Jaguar



Joined: 11 Feb 2014
Posts: 1111



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
People voted on reflex last week and didn't looking at the numbers, and now they're flipping their vote.
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92148&start=14

They flipped because of my post Twisted Evil



_________________
Oderint dum metuant - Let them hate, so long as they fear
Shades



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 63776



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 9:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
People voted on reflex last week and didn't looking at the numbers, and now they're flipping their vote.
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92148&start=14



My point exactly....And yes im a homer duhh Cool Gray has been the most consisten rookie over the entirety of the season not just the last 2 or 3 weeks so im sticking with my vote. A . Gray ROY 2018


Uh, you seem to be missing my point. My point was Sykes deserved way more than 22% of the vote. Most of the people that voted for Gray did so before the stats were posted a day later.



_________________
Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned
PUmatty



Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 16358
Location: Chicago


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When was the last time, if ever, that the leading scorer didn't win ROY?


Richyyy



Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 24353
Location: London


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Gray may have produced more consistently over the season so far, but the overall numbers are pretty similar, illustrating how much more impressive Sykes has been lately. Combined with Skyes's percentages and advanced numbers being better, she's at least pulled level at this point (and recent performance suggests she's likely to pull ahead in upcoming games).

That said, helping Sykes out is that a lot of rookies open up explosively and then drop off as the League works them out and scout them better. Basically not playing in the early games means that the last few weeks have essentially been that explosive opening for her. Now that she'll be in the scouting report for the rest of the season, things might get more difficult. A big drop off - and for someone who does like to shoot a lot, the percentages could fall off a cliff if she goes cold - could push Gray back in front.



_________________
Independent WNBA coverage: http://www.wnbalien.com/
Richyyy



Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 24353
Location: London


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
When was the last time, if ever, that the leading scorer didn't win ROY?

I think Armintie Price/Herrington was outscored by Lindsey Harding the year Herrington won it. I'll leave it to pilight to tell us if there were others Smile.



_________________
Independent WNBA coverage: http://www.wnbalien.com/
PUmatty



Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 16358
Location: Chicago


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
When was the last time, if ever, that the leading scorer didn't win ROY?

I think Armintie Price/Herrington was outscored by Lindsey Harding the year Herrington won it. I'll leave it to pilight to tell us if there were others Smile.


That sounds right. Though Harding was injured and only played 20 games, or she certainly would have won.


pilight



Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 66912
Location: Where the action is


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
When was the last time, if ever, that the leading scorer didn't win ROY?


The last time it happened was 2014, when Odyssey Sims led all rookies in scoring but Chiney Ogwumike won ROY. It also happened in 2001, 2003, and 2007.

OTOH, there has never been a ROY who shot under 40% for the season. A big part of why Lauren Jackson lost to Jackie Stiles in 2001 was Jackson's poor FG%.



_________________
I'm a lonely frog
I ain't got a home


Last edited by pilight on 07/24/17 10:25 am; edited 1 time in total
Ay Mate



Joined: 12 Nov 2016
Posts: 1280



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Jet Jaguar wrote:
Shades wrote:
People voted on reflex last week and didn't looking at the numbers, and now they're flipping their vote.
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=92148&start=14

They flipped because of my post Twisted Evil


Hardly. Don't flatter yourself


Ay Mate



Joined: 12 Nov 2016
Posts: 1280



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Or does this have more to do with ATL needing to find there next star and dallas already having Diggins and possibly cambage next season so the feel good story of Sykes being the next big thing in a market that needs that future doll too hard to pass up ?


Your being a homer. Disagree with everything u said here. I also said if Sykes keeps steady and keeps upping her game while Gray's shooting percentages keep regressing the rest of the season, Sykes should win.

And Dallas would actually benefit from having a ROY 'doll' more than Atlanta because Dallas thus far has been probably the worst market in the league since moving from Tulsa. There was more fan support and attendance in Tulsa in their last season than has been in Dallas so far.


myrtle



Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 32335



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I had both on college fantasy teams so watched them quite a lot. I'm actually somewhat surprised both have adapted to the W so quickly. Gray has always been steady and does what her team needs. Sykes has a lot of upside if she would remember that it is a team game and she actually has teammates, but it's hard for me to vote for her so long as it's continually all about 'me'. The game is more than statistics.



_________________
For there is always light,
if only we’re brave enough to see it.
If only we’re brave enough to be it.
- Amanda Gorman
pilight



Joined: 23 Sep 2004
Posts: 66912
Location: Where the action is


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
I had both on college fantasy teams so watched them quite a lot. I'm actually somewhat surprised both have adapted to the W so quickly. Gray has always been steady and does what her team needs. Sykes has a lot of upside if she would remember that it is a team game and she actually has teammates, but it's hard for me to vote for her so long as it's continually all about 'me'. The game is more than statistics.


FWIW, Sykes averages more assists per game than Gray, despite averaging fewer minutes. Sykes had five assists in her last game. Gray has one assist in the month of July.



_________________
I'm a lonely frog
I ain't got a home
Richyyy



Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 24353
Location: London


Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah, I've thought Sykes has flashed some nice passing vision in recent games. She's seeing on some of her drives that people are wide open on the perimeter and that might be a better option than forcing the layup. And as long as she stays pretty efficient, shooting a bunch doesn't bother me. You only become the dreaded 'volume scorer' when the percentages are crappy and you need lots of shots to get your points.



_________________
Independent WNBA coverage: http://www.wnbalien.com/
Ay Mate



Joined: 12 Nov 2016
Posts: 1280



Back to top
PostPosted: 07/24/17 10:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Yeah, I've thought Sykes has flashed some nice passing vision in recent games. She's seeing on some of her drives that people are wide open on the perimeter and that might be a better option than forcing the layup. And as long as she stays pretty efficient, shooting a bunch doesn't bother me. You only become the dreaded 'volume scorer' when the percentages are crappy and you need lots of shots to get your points.


Otherwise known as Alex Bentley.


Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    RebKell's Junkie Boards Forum Index » WNBA All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.17 © 2001- 2004 phpBB Group
phpBB Template by Vjacheslav Trushkin