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PostPosted: 07/22/17 3:49 pm    ::: 2017 FIBA Asia Cup Reply Reply with quote

The competition starts tomorrow in India. The top division has eight teams competing for four World Championship places. Samoa could not get funding to play in Division B, so just seven teams are competing for future top division opportunities.

Accurate roster information is difficult to find, but I pieced together what I could from FIBA and other sources. Young bigs are the focus as Park Ji-Su (2018) and Li Yueru (2019) are names to keep an eye on for the upcoming WNBA drafts. North Korea apparently has a 6'7" 14 year old.

Unfortunately it looks like only the A Division will be broadcast. It would have been cool to see how Fiji competes against the Asian teams. It looks like Lebanon was not able to get a naturalized player on the roster. India has a number of intriguing players, including their 6'11" center being healthy enough to suit up for this one. Singapore's Ariel Loiter also had some publicity at a younger age and is 15 now.

China (family name first):
Shen Yi, Guangdong (China)
Shi Xiufeng, Beijing (China)
Chen Xiaojia, Jiangsu (China)
Li Meng, Shenyang (China)
Shao Ting, Beijing (China)
Zhao Shuang, Shenyang (China)
Lu Wen, Bayi (China)
Huang Sijing, Guangdong (China)
Gao Song, Beijing (China)
Sun Mengran, Bayi (China)
Huang Hongpin, Shanxi (China)
Li Yueru, Guangdong (China)

New Zealand:
Micaela Cocks, Townsville Fire (Australia)/Mackay Meteors (Australia), Oregon
Kalani Purcell, BYU/Brisbane Spartans (Australia)
Georgia Agnew, Harbour Breeze (New Zealand), Utah Valley
Zara Jillings, Harbour Breeze (New Zealand)/Fordham
Antonia Edmondson, Perth Lynx (Australia)/Perry Lakes Hawks (Australia)
Natalie Purcell, Brisbane Spartans (Australia), Southeast Missouri State
Rebecca Ott, Melbourne Boomers (Australia)/Knox Raiders (Australia)
Chevannah Paalvast, Townsville Fire (Australia)/Mackay Meteors (Australia), Monmouth
Jessica Bygate, Melbourne Boomers (Australia)/Sandringham Sabres (Australia), Dickinson State (NAIA)
Jillian Harmon, Lucca (Italy), Stanford
Josephine Stockill, Sunbury Jets (Australia), Colgate
Deena Franklin, Harbour Breeze (New Zealand)

North Korea (family name first, club teams not provided):
Jang Mi-Gyong
Kim Hye-Yin
Kim Un-Jong
Kim Hyang-Ok
Kim Mi-Hyang
Ri Jong-Ok
Pak Hyang-Jong
Ro Suk-Yong
Ko Un-Gyong
Kong Su-Yon
Kim Ryu-Jong
Pak Jin-A

Taiwan (family name first where applicable):
Lin Chi-Wen, Taipower (Taiwan)
Huang Hsiang-Ting, Chunghwa Telecom (Taiwan)
Lo Pin, Chinese Cultural University (Taiwan)
Chen Yen-Yu, Chunghwa Telecom (Taiwan)
Huang Fan-Shan, Cathay Life (Taiwan)
Lan Hao-Yu, Cathay Life (Taiwan)
Huang Ping-Jen, no club
Wang Wei-Lin, Chunghwa Telecom (Taiwan)
Wu Ying-Chieh, Taiyuan Textile (Taiwan
Cheng I-Hsiu, Cathay Life (Taiwan)
Joy Burke, Ballarat Rush (Australia), Arizona State
Lin Yu-Ting, Cathay Life (Taiwan)

Australia:
Tessa Lavey, Perth Lynx (Australia)
Alanna Smith, Stanford
Lauren Mansfield, Canberra Capitals (Australia)/Launceston Tornadoes (Australia)/Penguin Blues (Australia), Iowa State
Madeleine Garrick, Melbourne Boomers (Australia)/Kilsyth Cobras (Australia)
Stephanie Cumming, Dandenong Rangers (Australia)
Kelsey Griffin, Bendigo Spirit (Australia), Nebraska and WNBA (2010-2014)
Katie-Rae Ebzery, Dynamo Moscow (Russia)
Laura Summerton, Adelaide Lightning (Australia), WNBA (2005-2006)
Belinda Snell, Sydney University Flames (Australia)/Manly Warringah Sea Eagles (Australia), WNBA (2005-2007 and 2009-2011)
Alice Kunek, Melbourne Boomers (Australia)/Lyon (France)/Eltham Wildcats (Australia)
Marianna Tolo, Canberra Capitals (Australia), WNBA (2015)
Sara Blicavs, Dandenong Rangers (Australia)/Geelong Supercats (Australia)

Japan:
Moeko Nagoaka, Red Wave (Japan)
Manami Fujioka, Sunflowers (Japan)
Yuka Mamiya, Sunflowers (Japan)
Saki Mizushima, Antelopes (Japan)
Maki Takada, Iris (Japan)
Asami Yoshida, Sunflowers (Japan)
Rui Machida, Red Wave (Japan)
Kaede Kondo, Antelopes (Japan)
Miyuki Kawamura, Magic (Japan)
Evelyn Mawuli, Wings (Japan)
Sakura Akaho, Iris (Japan)
Yuki Miyazawa, Sunflowers (Japan)

Philippines (college listed in place of current team where applicable):
Afril Bernardino, National University (Philippines)
France Mae Cabinbin, Lyceum University (Philippines)
Camille Sambile, Far Eastern University (Philippines)
Allana May Lim, Far Eastern University (Philippines)
Jack Danielle Aninam, National University (Philippines)
Cindy Resultay, Air Force (Philippines)
Analyn Almazan, Adamson University (Philippines)
Raiza Rose Dy, Far Eastern University (Philippines)
Clare Castro, Far Eastern University (Philippines)
Marrize Andrea Tongco, National University (Philippines)
Janine Pontejos, University of the East (Philippines)
Gemma Miranda, National University (Philippines)

South Korea (family name first where applicable):
Park, Ha-Na, Blue Minx (South Korea)
Kang Lee-Seul, KEB (South Korea)
Sim Sung-Young, Stars (South Korea)
Park, Hye-Jin, Wibee (South Korea)
Kim So-Dam, Winnus (South Korea)
Kang A-Jeong, Stars (South Korea)
Kimberly Roberson, Blue Minx (South Korea), Indiana
Kwak Joo-Yeong, S-Birds (South Korea)
Bae Hye-Yoon, Blue Minx (South Korea)
Lim Yung-Hui, Wibee (South Korea)
Kim Dan-Bi, S-Birds (South Korea)
Park Ji-Su, Stars (South Korea)

India:
Anjana Prasannan Geetha, Kerala (India)
Barkha Sonkar, Hillsborough (JC)
Raspreet Sidhu, Royal Delhi (India)
Anitha Paul Durai, Indian Railways (India)
Grima Merlin Varghese, Kerala (India)
Anmolpreet Kaur, Toa Gakuen (Japan)
Navaneetha Pattemane Udayakumar, Indian Railways (India)
Kavita Akula, Garden City (JC) and Signed with Grand Canyon
Rajapridyadharshini Rajaganapathi, Indian Railways (India)
Jeena Palanilkumkalay Il Skaria, Kerala (India)
Shireen Vijay Limaye, PYC Gymkhana (India)
Poonam Chaturvedi, Chhattisargh (India)

Sri Lanka (club teams not provided):
Premila Meriyan Fernando Beruwalage
Josephine Niroshini Paiva
Herath Mudiyanselage T Anjalee Ekanayake
Imesha Thathsarani Dapana Durage
Yasassri Sanduni Bollegala Arachchilage
Jayani Nugi Ransari Thewahettige
Sulochana Sewwandi Iddamalgoda
Benika Madhubhashinie Don Thalagala
Kindu Jayaliya Kumari Thewahettige
G. Nadeeshani Kumarine Silva
Thusyanthini Jeevathasan Karthigesu
Erandi Kawshalya Gallage

Uzbekistan (club teams not provided):
Yuliya Kashuba
Anastasiya Sevastyanova
Gulnaz Nauruzbaeva
Elena Khusnitdinova
Natalya Koneva
Elvira Salavatova
Irina Averyanova
Dlyara Asanova
Katerina Ejova
Aliya Samatova

Fiji (club teams not provided for all players):
Talica Vula Sauta
Seini Macrae Dobui, Saints (Fiji)
Tiyana Anne Kainamoli
Miliakere Koyamainavure, Launceston Tornadoes (Australia), Missouri Western (DII)
Amalaini Raluvenitoga
Mereleni Dreke Tora
Disiola Kaseva Boseiwaqa
Bitila Sigani Tawake
Dale Wise
Valerie Nainima, no club, South Carolina
Leba Korovou, Missouri Western (DII)
Letava Whippy, no club, LIU

Kazakhstan:
Elmira Abikeyeba, Irtysh (Kazahstan)
Zalina Kurazova, Astana (Kazakhstan)
Aigerim Aldanysheva, Okzhetpes (Kazakhstan)
Alexandra Kovalevsyakya, Irtysh (Kazahstan)
Tamara Yagodkina, Astana (Kazakhstan)
Mariya Astapenko, Astana (Kazakhstan)
Olga Kolesnikova, Okzhetpes (Kazakhstan)
Oxana Ivanova, Astana (Kazakhstan)
Anastassiya Begun, Astana (Kazakhstan)
Oxina Ossipenko, Astana (Kazakhstan)
Nadezhda Kondrakova, Astana (Kazakhstan)

Lebanon:
Farah El Harake, Homentman (Lebanon)
Lama Moukaddem, Al Riyadi (Lebanon)
Chirine El Charif, Al Riyadi (Lebanon)
Narine Gyokchian, no club
Layla Fares, Homentman (Lebanon)
Rebecca Akl, Al Riyadi (Lebanon)
Karen Chammas, Antranik (Lebanon)
Miramar Mokdad, Chabibeh (Lebanon)
Nancy Maalouf, Antranik (Lebanon)
Nour Schoucair, Antranik (Lebanon)
Aida Bakhos, Homentman (Lebanon), Lamar

Singapore:
Jacqueline Chu, Adroit (Singapore)
Pauline Ang, Qian Xi (Singapore)
Jia Min Lim, Qian Xi (Singapore)
Shermaine See, Hillcrest Grays (Singapore)
Jayne Sarah Tan, Qian Xi (Singapore)
Amanda Lim, Siglap (Singapore)
Wei Bin Koh, Qian Xi (Singapore)
Choy Ting Tang, Qian Xi (Singapore)
Cheryl Poon, Hillcrest Grays (Singapore)
Alanna Lim, Qian Xi (Singapore)
Yukie Yoshida, Hillcrest Grays (Singapore)
Ariel Loiter Xiang Ying, Singapore American School (Singapore)/Siglap (Singapore)
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PostPosted: 07/22/17 8:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seems odd that Lebanon plays with the Asian countries.


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PostPosted: 07/22/17 9:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Seems odd that Lebanon plays with the Asian countries.


Why? Lebanon is in Asia.



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PostPosted: 07/22/17 9:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I guess you are right. So where are Israel, and all of the other Middle Eastern Countries?


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PostPosted: 07/22/17 9:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
I guess you are right. So where are Israel, and all of the other Middle Eastern Countries?


They didn't qualify. Many of the Islamic nations don't field women's teams.



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PostPosted: 07/23/17 12:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Israel, when it comes to basketball (and a lot of other sports), is in Europe. They failed to qualify for EuroBasket Women this year, rather than the Asia Cup.



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PostPosted: 07/23/17 6:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So Lebanon is in Asia and Israel is in Europe. Laughing


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PostPosted: 07/23/17 7:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
So Lebanon is in Asia and Israel is in Europe. Laughing


It's like that for soccer(FIFA) as well.



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PostPosted: 07/23/17 11:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

How did Joy Burke, raised in Arizona, become Taiwanese?



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PostPosted: 07/23/17 12:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shouldn't there be sanctions on North Korea?



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PostPosted: 07/23/17 12:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
How did Joy Burke, raised in Arizona, become Taiwanese?


Her mother is Taiwanese. Her father is American, I believe he was a missionary in Taiwan.


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PostPosted: 07/23/17 4:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In terms of actual games, it was Taiwan beating North Korea and China beating New Zealand in one group and Australia beating South Korea and Japan beating the Philippines in the other. India beat Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan beat Lebanon. Fiji did not play its stars so they were walloped by Singapore.

pilight wrote:
Randy wrote:
I guess you are right. So where are Israel, and all of the other Middle Eastern Countries?


They didn't qualify. Many of the Islamic nations don't field women's teams.


Israel did try to compete in Asia in sports, but it became mutually beneficial not to since the countries that did not recognize it just forfeit the games and that was problematic with so many of them. Kazakhstan is in Asia for basketball, but in the past they have sent club teams to European competitions and there were rumors that Lebanese teams would be invited to some too.

Many (possibly most?) Islamic countries that have men's teams also have women's teams, but not the ones that we traditionally associate with Islam, like the ones in the West Asia and Gulf regions that have decent men's teams. Besides Lebanon, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan are both in this competition. Senegal and Mali are among the powerhouses in Africa with Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Egypt also fielding strong teams. Obviously Turkey is active in basketball, but Albania and Kosovo also have fledgling programs and I think we have established that Azerbaijan tries to field teams sometimes.

fanaticka wrote:
ClayK wrote:
How did Joy Burke, raised in Arizona, become Taiwanese?


Her mother is Taiwanese. Her father is American, I believe he was a missionary in Taiwan.


She was actually born in Taiwan, so if for some reason she had a choice between the two, Taiwan would actually be the logical pick.

Shades wrote:
Shouldn't there be sanctions on North Korea?


Err, what kind of sanctions exactly and why?
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PostPosted: 07/24/17 11:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

No surprises on Day 2.

Australia beat the Philippines and Japan beat South Korea. That means that the two teams will play for the top spot while the other two fight to avoid China.

That's because China beat Taiwan at the end of the day to win the group with New Zealand beating North Korea earlier. North Korea will face the winner of the other group in the quarterfinals.

Sri Lanka lost to Uzbekistan in Division B. Kazakhstan will be in first in their group after they beat Singapore while Lebanon beat Fiji in the other game.
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PostPosted: 07/25/17 12:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did New Zealand (and Fiji etc.) actually want to join Asia, or once Australia decided they wanted to move did FIBA just say everyone had to do it? Because I understand Australia wanting better competition, but for the smaller countries - once the Aussies were out of the way - one spot at major tournaments for the remainder of the Oceania region might've been pretty enticing.



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PostPosted: 07/25/17 6:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Australia got past Japan today but it wasn't an easy win.
Tolo & Griffin were the main contributors in the first half, and an uncharacteristic 60% (12/20) from 3 point territory kept our noses in front through the second half, despite our defence struggling to contain them.

Fujioka was fun to watch as she blew past our guards almost at will. She ended up with 18 points & 10 assists.

Boxscore

So the Opals go undefeated in pool play, and will face a much lower ranked opponent in their quarter final, so they should cruise into the final 4 without too much trouble. Just like in Rio Razz



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PostPosted: 07/25/17 8:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I am caught up on getting everything published now:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2017/07/asia-cup-day-1-july-23rd/
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2017/07/asia-cup-day-2-july-24th/
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2017/07/asia-cup-day-3-july-25th/
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PostPosted: 07/25/17 8:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Did New Zealand (and Fiji etc.) actually want to join Asia, or once Australia decided they wanted to move did FIBA just say everyone had to do it? Because I understand Australia wanting better competition, but for the smaller countries - once the Aussies were out of the way - one spot at major tournaments for the remainder of the Oceania region might've been pretty enticing.


It is my understanding that this was not like football and this was completely FIBA's idea and not Australia's. The reasoning behind it was the design of the new 2019 World Cup Qualifying process on the men's side, which would not have worked with Oceania. Combining these tournaments and youth tournaments was not decided later and there were doubts that it would happen even a few month ago on the men's side (because now men's continental competitions have no bearing on qualification).

I am pretty sure that New Zealand was in favor of the change on the women's side and youth side because now they can qualify for world tournaments without needing to beat Australia. It helps them in terms of competition on the senior men's side, but not qualification since they basically automatically qualified to everything under the old format. The smaller Oceania teams are also probably happy because it gives them more chances to actually field senior sides that can compete with other teams. It will probably not help them on the youth side. It is also my understanding that since the Olympics recognize Oceania as one of the five continents, qualifying for them will still separate Asia and Oceania. A Tonga 3x3 team based around Steven Adams, Jabari Parker, Isaac Fotu, and somebody else would be pretty cool to see in 2020 with some massaging of current rules.
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PostPosted: 07/27/17 8:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2017/07/asia-cup-quarterfinals-july-27th/

South Korea beat New Zealand in the game that was probably the least predictable. Australia, China, and Japan also won to qualify.
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PostPosted: 07/28/17 2:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well I'm glad that Asia at least is sending all its best teams to Spain next year. Keeps things as competitive as possible. I'm beginning to quite look forward to 10 days in the Canaries Smile.



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PostPosted: 07/28/17 8:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aussie starters got plenty of rest in today's win over Korea. At the moment Kelsey Griffin is MVP of this team. Her tweenerness is not a problem against most of these Asian teams.

Japan giving Shao Ting & the Chinese all they can handle right now in the other semi final. Fujioka continues to be fun to watch.

Richyyy wrote:
I'm beginning to quite look forward to 10 days in the Canaries Smile.

Hmm... you know, that doesn't sound too bad



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Japan wins! Fujioka 19 points, 8 boards, 14 assists. Great game!



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PostPosted: 07/28/17 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Recap of all the games: http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2017/07/asia-cup-semifinals-july-29th/

Alanna Smith may be the most efficient garbage time player ever.

Luuuc, since you have been able to see more games live, what do you think of the current version of Park Ji-Su? What's the earliest pick you would be willing to use on her?
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PostPosted: 07/28/17 9:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I've got no idea when it comes to evaluating talent. Any time it's a foreign player and I've only seen them against average competition I'm reluctant to make any kind of big call about them.
She's young and carrying a big load in a senior tournament, so I guess on that basis alone she has to be worth considering. But how high? No idea.



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So much of it's dependent on things outside of how good they are, as well. Having an agent who talks to WNBA teams and makes assurances that the player actually wants to play in the league would be huge. But the depth of the 2018 US class hurts because there are too many NCAA players who could help immediately to risk a high pick on a foreigner. In 2017, Park/Vadeeva would probably have gone significantly higher than they will in 2018.



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PostPosted: 07/28/17 10:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
So much of it's dependent on things outside of how good they are, as well. Having an agent who talks to WNBA teams and makes assurances that the player actually wants to play in the league would be huge. But the depth of the 2018 US class hurts because there are too many NCAA players who could help immediately to risk a high pick on a foreigner. In 2017, Park/Vadeeva would probably have gone significantly higher than they will in 2018.

I think that's a good thing in this case. Even if a team thinks she is first round pick -worthy they're going to be reluctant to take her for all those reasons. So becoming eligible in a strong draft year is ideal. Much easier to take a risk with a 2nd round pick.



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