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| She also has a knack for hitting clutch shots -- the daggers -- which gained her the nickname Sue "Die, b----es!" Bird, or "DB" for short, from admiring fans on internet message boards. |
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| Posted: 07/20/17 11:06 am ::: |
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| Wow , Sue really spoke out finally.
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| Posted: 07/20/17 12:12 pm ::: |
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| Great article by Mechelle Voepel. Bird is correct, of course, that homophobia, racism, and sexism all hurt the WNBA.
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| Posted: 07/20/17 12:41 pm ::: |
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| Great article by Mechelle Voepel. Bird is correct, of course, that homophobia, racism, and sexism all hurt the WNBA. |
+1 thats why im so proud that this league has withstood 21 years of this and counting #GOWNBA
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| Posted: 07/20/17 12:49 pm ::: |
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| Great article by Mechelle Voepel. Bird is correct, of course, that homophobia, racism, and sexism all hurt the WNBA. |
+1 thats why im so proud that this league has withstood 21 years of this and counting #GOWNBA |
Yes indeed.
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I think highly of Sue Bird. I don't know her at all, but she seems like a quality person and she's obviously a great player. And like everyone, she has every right to choose when and where to open up to the public.
I have to say, though, that I'm somewhat disappointed that it took this long for her to come out. Not majorly disappointed, not saying she's a bad person, not trying to shame anyone ... just commenting that someone like her coming out might have made a difference to other young women and girls, and might have advanced the cause a bit.
Again, it's her choice and her decision, and it didn't feel right to her. It's her life, not mine ... but I still feel a little disappointed, if that's OK to say.
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| Posted: 07/20/17 9:02 pm ::: |
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| ClayK wrote: |
I think highly of Sue Bird. I don't know her at all, but she seems like a quality person and she's obviously a great player. And like everyone, she has every right to choose when and where to open up to the public.
I have to say, though, that I'm somewhat disappointed that it took this long for her to come out. Not majorly disappointed, not saying she's a bad person, not trying to shame anyone ... just commenting that someone like her coming out might have made a difference to other young women and girls, and might have advanced the cause a bit.
Again, it's her choice and her decision, and it didn't feel right to her. It's her life, not mine ... but I still feel a little disappointed, if that's OK to say. |
Yeah. She's one of those players who are highly respected in her field (a la Dawn Staley) by other legends. I know Swoopes, Coop, Tina, Lisa and of course Lauren love and respect her to the end of eternity.
In a lot of ways, she's been the face of the WNBA since her debut.
With that said, Sue has already been a major influence and inspiration to generations of females. It's not her job to be open about her personal life because of what it may do for others. Her life matters just as much as the other young women and girls who would've been impacted by her coming out years ago.
All the best to her.
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| Posted: 07/20/17 9:45 pm ::: |
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With that said, Sue has already been a major influence and inspiration to generations of females. It's not her job to be open about her personal life because of what it may do for others. Her life matters just as much as the other young women and girls who would've been impacted by her coming out years ago.
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I agree completely. I guess I always look at it this way: if someone comes out and by doing so can help pave the way for others, that is a good--even great--thing. But not coming out publically is not a bad thing. Private people should have no obligation or pressure to share more about their lives than they are comfortable with. A person is accountable to only their own self in these things, and should be true to who they are.
Coming out and sharing her life with the world wasn't right for Sue. And there is nothing wrong with that.
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| Posted: 07/21/17 12:43 pm ::: |
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I think it's a "big deal" any time anyone comes out. And, in certain ways, an even bigger deal when it is someone very much in the public eye.
Decades ago, when there was much less support for LGBT rights, survey data showed something very clearly. People who knew someone who was gay were far more likely to support gay rights than people who believed (wrongly in many cases) that they didn't know anyone who was gay. So anytime anyone comes out it affects everyone in that person's world. And some of those people, previously hostile to LGBT rights, rethink their views.
Surely there are many people on this board who for years have known or suspected that Sue Bird was gay. But now the world knows, including many who've admired Bird but didn't know. I view that as a big deal.
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| Posted: 07/21/17 1:23 pm ::: |
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I think it's a "big deal" any time anyone comes out. And, in certain ways, an even bigger deal when it is someone very much in the public eye.
Decades ago, when there was much less support for LGBT rights, survey data showed something very clearly. People who knew someone who was gay were far more likely to support gay rights then people who believed (wrongly in many cases) that they didn't know anyone who was gay. So anytime anyone comes out it affects everyone in that person's world. And some of those people, previously hostile to LGBT rights, rethink their views.
Surely there are many people on this board who for years have known or suspected that Sue Bird was gay. But now the world knows, including many who've admired Bird but didn't know. I view that as a big deal. |
Agree with everything said here , ive known for a while also but until she confirmed it was just a hunch or yet pretty obvious . Support for the LGBT community was very very different at that time so i do understand what you mean , still sucks SS22 had to go through that experience and watch these players today make the same moves and have it shoved away side since its normal and expected with this league now i guess. No more losing endorsements ect...
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| Posted: 07/21/17 1:27 pm ::: |
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I think highly of Sue Bird. I don't know her at all, but she seems like a quality person and she's obviously a great player. And like everyone, she has every right to choose when and where to open up to the public.
I have to say, though, that I'm somewhat disappointed that it took this long for her to come out. Not majorly disappointed, not saying she's a bad person, not trying to shame anyone ... just commenting that someone like her coming out might have made a difference to other young women and girls, and might have advanced the cause a bit.
Again, it's her choice and her decision, and it didn't feel right to her. It's her life, not mine ... but I still feel a little disappointed, if that's OK to say. |
I get what you mean, I think it's natural to feel that way in areas that struggled with representation for so long. I'm glad she's at the point where she feels comfortable now.
Just curious, and not judging your opinion so I don't want it to come off that way, did you feel the same disappointment with Taurasi for not coming out sooner than she did?
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| Posted: 07/21/17 2:18 pm ::: |
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| Unfortunately, this news is (and will be) getting more coverage than the upcoming All-Star festivities.
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