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Shades
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Jet Jaguar
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Posted: 12/26/16 1:21 am ::: |
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I think Hopkins is typical of many point guards who come into the league. She's as good, or better than a lot of points in the league right now, but just isn't getting the opportunity. It has a lot less to do with not being good enough and more to do with opportunity. Courtney Vandersloot, for example, is lucky she landed with a coach who was patient with her and let her develop or you know what she would be? She'd be Chelsea Hopkins and Sharnee Zoll.
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 12/26/16 9:43 pm ::: |
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based on bits and pieces I've read on here (feel free to correct any misinformation.
UFA
Langhorne
Pierson
Little
T. Wright
RFA draft class 2013
Griner
EDD
Diggins (already signed an extension I believe)
Hill *
Bone
Hawkins *
Alexander
Clarendon
Faris
Bentley
Rodgers
Meeseman
(Hill and Hawkins I believe missed one entire season so I'm not sure if that year does or does not count in terms of their agency status.)
These players may or may not be UFA just guessing based on tenure in the league please correct if you know they signed contracts that go through 2017
Possible UFA
McCoughtry
Coleman
Toliver
Montgomery
Bonner
January
Paris
Zellous
Petrovic
Ajevon
Carson
T. Young
Larkins
Mitchell
Pringle/Sanders
Harding
Quinn
TJJ
Latta
Pondexter
Currie
Dupree
Lyttle
Bass/Williams/?
De Souza
Made it for a while or Almost made it (players cut the last few season who made it briefly or were on the border of making it who might get another shot)
Bulgak, Knight, Graves, Alston, Fields, Grant, Bradford, Logic, Kiesel, Burdick, Hrynko, Orrange, Massengale, Liston, A. Taylor, L. Moore, D. Whyte, A. Goodrich, Prahalis, Goodlett, S. Kelly, C. Hoskins, S. Carter, J. Gemelos, A. Harris, D. Adams, I. Ibekwe, K. Griffin, A. Thomas, Q. Hollingsworth
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root_thing
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:16 am ::: |
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One in, one out: Washington waived Hawkins to make room for Mitchell. She should be a UFA. On the other hand, Knight was signed for the last three games of the season by SAS, so they control her rights.
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Shades
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:48 am ::: |
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These should be all the designations for the Lynx
UFA
McCarville
Reserved
Hampton
Jarry?
Rookie
Fagbenle
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petrel
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scullyfu
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Posted: 12/27/16 9:23 am ::: |
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not sure about this, but iirc the Storm cored Langhorne at some point. is that coring good from one contract signing to another or does it have a finite time frame?
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Shades
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Posted: 12/27/16 10:13 am ::: |
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scullyfu wrote: |
not sure about this, but iirc the Storm cored Langhorne at some point. is that coring good from one contract signing to another or does it have a finite time frame? |
Was Langhorne signed for multiple years?
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pilight
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Posted: 12/27/16 10:51 am ::: |
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scullyfu wrote: |
not sure about this, but iirc the Storm cored Langhorne at some point. is that coring good from one contract signing to another or does it have a finite time frame? |
it's good for the length of the contract signed while under the designation.
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dtsnms
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Posted: 12/27/16 10:55 am ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
based on bits and pieces I've read on here (feel free to correct any misinformation.
UFA
Langhorne
Pierson
Little
T. Wright
RFA draft class 2013
Griner
EDD
Diggins (already signed an extension I believe)
Hill *
Bone
Hawkins *
Alexander
Clarendon
Faris
Bentley
Rodgers
Meeseman
(Hill and Hawkins I believe missed one entire season so I'm not sure if that year does or does not count in terms of their agency status.)
These players may or may not be UFA just guessing based on tenure in the league please correct if you know they signed contracts that go through 2017
Possible UFA
McCoughtry
Coleman
Toliver
Montgomery
Bonner
January
Paris
Zellous
Petrovic
Ajevon
Carson
T. Young
Larkins
Mitchell
Pringle/Sanders
Harding
Quinn
TJJ
Latta
Pondexter
Currie
Dupree
Lyttle
Bass/Williams/?
De Souza
Made it for a while or Almost made it (players cut the last few season who made it briefly or were on the border of making it who might get another shot)
Bulgak, Knight, Graves, Alston, Fields, Grant, Bradford, Logic, Kiesel, Burdick, Hrynko, Orrange, Massengale, Liston, A. Taylor, L. Moore, D. Whyte, A. Goodrich, Prahalis, Goodlett, S. Kelly, C. Hoskins, S. Carter, J. Gemelos, A. Harris, D. Adams, I. Ibekwe, K. Griffin, A. Thomas, Q. Hollingsworth |
Jasmine Thomas is a UFA.
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Shades
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Posted: 12/27/16 11:23 am ::: |
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dtsnms wrote: |
Jasmine Thomas is a UFA. |
I'd expect she'd be the one cored, leaving Little to pursue another team if she likes. She might be feeling wanted in CON with Ogwumike going down and not being sure where Tuck is at.
If Little wants to chase a championship and would be willing to work really cheap, LAS or MIN might be able to fit her in.
The Mystics would be closest to home base, plus they have a couple of old college teammates in Sanders and Latta.
There's an old college teammate in IND if they retain Larkins.
I believe Little is great friends with Tanisha Wright, and Little could fill the utility role of a Swin Cash.
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Ay Mate
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Posted: 12/27/16 11:45 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Jasmine Thomas is a UFA. |
I'd expect she'd be the one cored, leaving Little to pursue another team if she likes. She might be feeling wanted in CON with Ogwumike going down and not being sure where Tuck is at.
If Little wants to chase a championship and would be willing to work really cheap, LAS or MIN might be able to fit her in.
The Mystics would be closest to home base, plus they have a couple of old college teammates in Sanders and Latta.
There's an old college teammate in IND if they retain Larkins.
I believe Little is great friends with Tanisha Wright, and Little could fill the utility role of a Swin Cash. |
I doubt the Sun would feel the need to core Jasmine Thomas. She apparently likes Curt Miller a lot and plus, she's in a relationship with Alyssa Thomas. She will remain with the Sun.
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pilight
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:20 pm ::: |
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I can't imagine Jasmine Thomas is so irreplaceable that she would need to be cored.
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:39 pm ::: |
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Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay?
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Ay Mate
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:46 pm ::: |
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dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay?
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Jet Jaguar
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:53 pm ::: |
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Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule.
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Ay Mate
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Posted: 12/27/16 12:58 pm ::: |
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Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
And I've apologized to you for being a jerk. But your right. There is no such rule. And if there is, it's never been enforced. So I disregard dtsnms's comment. It was ridiculous.
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Shades
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Posted: 12/27/16 1:39 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
I can't imagine Jasmine Thomas is so irreplaceable that she would need to be cored. |
Not sure where this is coming from, but she was good last season, and I hear the Liberty are looking for an upgrade.
32 mpg (1st)
11.7 ppg (3rd; 2nd if you remove Ogwumike)
4.1 rpg (3rd; 2nd if you remove Ogwumike)
5.1 apg (1st; that's easily replaceable, coming from an ATL fan?)
1.3 spg (2nd)
I don't see why they wouldn't use the core on her unless CON is extremely cheap. They already have an inexpensive roster.
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 12/27/16 1:46 pm ::: |
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Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
Even if there is such a rule, it has been flagrantly and repeatedly violated.
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pilight
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Posted: 12/27/16 2:09 pm ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
Even if there is such a rule, it has been flagrantly and repeatedly violated. |
As a guideline it has been far more honored in the breach than in the observance
_________________ I'm sick and tired of the stories that you always tell
Shakespeare couldn't tell a story that well
See, you're the largest liar that was ever created
You and Pinocchio are probably related
Full of criss-crossed fits, you lie all the time
Your tongue should be embarrassed, you're a threat to mankind
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dtsnms
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Posted: 12/27/16 2:29 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
Even if there is such a rule, it has been flagrantly and repeatedly violated. |
As a guideline it has been far more honored in the breach than in the observance |
Once it hits the newscasts (ie Griner/Johnson) anything is fair game. But if the athlete is discreet shouldn't we be discreet?
Pilight you know as well as I do in days gone by we used to honor it at least. Maybe the new generation of Rebkellians doesn't give a crap about privacy but they should.
Just my opinion alone I guess and the way it always was before this new group has come on board.
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mavcarter #NATC
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Posted: 12/27/16 2:31 pm ::: |
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dtsnms wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
Even if there is such a rule, it has been flagrantly and repeatedly violated. |
As a guideline it has been far more honored in the breach than in the observance |
Once it hits the newscasts (ie Griner/Johnson) anything is fair game. But if the athlete is discreet shouldn't we be discreet?
Pilight you know as well as I do in days gone by we used to honor it at least. Maybe the new generation of Rebkellians doesn't give a crap about privacy but they should.
Just my opinion alone I guess. |
I don't mean to chime in, but technically Alyssa Thomas and Jasmine Thomas being in a relationship isn't really private. They've got pictures together on social media for the public to see, unless I'm mistaken?_________________
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dtsnms
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Posted: 12/27/16 2:32 pm ::: |
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Ay Mate wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
And I've apologized to you for being a jerk. But your right. There is no such rule. And if there is, it's never been enforced. So I disregard dtsnms's comment. It was ridiculous. |
Gee I've only been here since the beginning...you've been here a month. Yeah, you know more than I do about this place.
That is what's ridiculous my friend.
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dtsnms
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Posted: 12/27/16 2:35 pm ::: |
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mavcarter wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Bob Lamm wrote: |
Jet Jaguar wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
Ay Mate, I know you are new to the board, but we generally keep the "off the court" stuff private, okay? |
Seriously??!! And what about all the posts here about the Griner/Glory saga?? And the Candace Parker divorce posts here?? Give me a break. This forum is to talk about the WNBA and its players. So no, okay? |
I hate to defend you because you've been a jerk to me, but I've never heard of this rule. |
Even if there is such a rule, it has been flagrantly and repeatedly violated. |
As a guideline it has been far more honored in the breach than in the observance |
Once it hits the newscasts (ie Griner/Johnson) anything is fair game. But if the athlete is discreet shouldn't we be discreet?
Pilight you know as well as I do in days gone by we used to honor it at least. Maybe the new generation of Rebkellians doesn't give a crap about privacy but they should.
Just my opinion alone I guess. |
I don't mean to chime in, but technically Alyssa Thomas and Jasmine Thomas being in a relationship isn't really private. They've got pictures together on social media for the public to see, unless I'm mistaken? |
And it's relevant to the discussion of Jaz being a UFA how? That's my point. It doesn't matter. So why discuss it? If Ay Mate thinks so little of Jaz as a professional athlete that she's going to stay in one place to be with her significant other, that's disrespectful to her.
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