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Who will win this game?
Liberty
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PostPosted: 06/14/17 7:02 pm    ::: Liberty @ Wings - 6/16/17 Reply Reply with quote

8:00 PM ET
College Park Center
Friday, June 16, 2017

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PostPosted: 06/16/17 1:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pretty simple analysis. If the Liberty are decisive in establishing offensive and defensive presences in the paint they'll win. If they don't they won't. It's something they should be able to do. I'd expect them to come out with a chip on their shoulders after Wednesday's effort. This is a game they kinda need to win if we're looking at the 2 seed as being significant.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 2:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
Pretty simple analysis. If the Liberty are decisive in establishing offensive and defensive presences in the paint they'll win. If they don't they won't. It's something they should be able to do. I'd expect them to come out with a chip on their shoulders after Wednesday's effort. This is a game they kinda need to win if we're looking at the 2 seed as being significant.


Given what happened in the playoffs last season, I can't imagine there's any Liberty fan who would view getting the #2 seed as less than significant. It would be huge. I don't see this roster as being good enough to achieve that goal, but I hope I'm wrong. In any case, given the loss to Connecticut, it's very important for the Liberty to win tonight and then win the next game with Connecticut.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 2:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I tend to think they are good enough but there's so much talent these days that I think anything from 2-4 is reasonable. That said, in 2015 Piph joined NY at the ten game mark in DC. After a so-so start the Libs went 17-5 upon Piph's return. This year she rejoins NY at the 12-game mark in DC. This team is better than that one was and similar to the 2015 team, got its act together at around the same time. We're 6-4 with injuries, missing players and a few underperforming ones. I don't think anyone has outperformed their ability, and that's exciting. Because if we go on a lengthy streak with players playing at their peak, this team has a lot of talent even without Boyd.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Starting off with a little Skylar Diggins-Smith video feature. Then Reagan Pebley narrates highlights saying a few times that "she plays downhill".


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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

These refs are already whistle happy.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ever since I praised the officiating I think it's been terrible. Some of the stuff in this game is getting on my nerves.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stokes, Hartley & L. Allen all with 2 fouls. Wings with 11 pts from FTs that quarter.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

13 FTA in the first quarter for Dallas. The Libs really have to figure out how to play defense without fouling. Though that is a pace for 52 FTA for the game. Some of those calls I thought were kind of one-sided. It's getting frustrating. Both the fouling and some of the calls.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Liberty bench doing nothing so far. Ugh!



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
13 FTA in the first quarter for Dallas. The Libs really have to figure out how to play defense without fouling. Though that is a pace for 52 FTA for the game. Some of those calls I thought were kind of one-sided. It's getting frustrating. Both the fouling and some of the calls.


You have been at home. Calls don't go your way on the road. The refs haven't changed, your situation has. I can honestly say that the only game this year that I have seen where the road team got the better of the calls was the Atlanta-Seattle game earlier this week. And even in that game the refs seemed to even out some of it in the fourth quarter.


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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Not sure what was the worst part of that half: the refs, our bench or forgetting how to play defense? And somehow we're only down 3 at the half.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What the hell happen Zauli b? Like seriously...i expected more from her and she's become a disaster this year...




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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

now lets see how fred cost the wings this game with his line up switches in the 2nd half



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
13 FTA in the first quarter for Dallas. The Libs really have to figure out how to play defense without fouling. Though that is a pace for 52 FTA for the game. Some of those calls I thought were kind of one-sided. It's getting frustrating. Both the fouling and some of the calls.


You have been at home. Calls don't go your way on the road. The refs haven't changed, your situation has. I can honestly say that the only game this year that I have seen where the road team got the better of the calls was the Atlanta-Seattle game earlier this week. And even in that game the refs seemed to even out some of it in the fourth quarter.


Our situation hasn't changed. we were minus FTA in most of our home games too. I do think there's less consistency tonight though.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dallas is +4 in points in the paint. As much as Nayo is likable with upside, she's not a defensive presence and she rarely gets a defensive rebound. I think Stokes has to avoid that 4th foul. This isn't a team we are going to beat if we allow them to attack more than vice versa. They have too many players capable of attacking the rim effectively on the dribble drive. Our help defense HAS to be better. There were a few calls in there that might leave you frustrated, but NY simply has to play its game. Bottle up penetrating players on the baseline instead of letting them get to the rim.

Fatigue may also be rearing its head. Sugar and Tina played the entire first half.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

No rest for Tina or Sugar this game. Stokes & Hartley with 4 fouls. Probably due to the fact they have a week off, otherwise we'd see more Zahui B.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yikes! Poor Plaisance


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What the hell happen Zauli b? Like seriously...i expected more from her and she's become a disaster this year...


She was never any good tbh...and getting even fewer minutes now with the emergence of Nayo.

Remember when Laimbeer was crowing about the range Stokes has on her jumper? When was the last time she even attempted a shot outside of the paint?



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

You can knock Fred for drafting Shakhator, but Davis and Gray more than make up for that.


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There's a foul called on almost every possession. Liberty with 18 fouls resulting in Dallas shooting 21-24 FTs.



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Every shot Gray and Davis make is an additional dagger in my cold heart



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You can knock Fred for drafting Shakhator, but Davis and Gray more than make up for that.


He lucked out. Still sucks that the top three picks have been a bust. Hopefully Coates shows us something once she's able to play.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wow, Diggins-Smith forced that fast-break layup and had it rejected soundly by someone, maybe Rogers.

Zahui B. has developed a fade-away shot.


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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Zahui B playing her best game of the season. Maybe there's hope after all.



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 8:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
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You can knock Fred for drafting Shakhator, but Davis and Gray more than make up for that.


He lucked out. Still sucks that the top three picks have been a bust. Hopefully Coates shows us something once she's able to play.


And Chong too. Who would have guess Chong would be playing well while Plum is turning into a prune on the Stars bench.


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Aerial Powers may have difficulty getting playing time when she gets back.


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Randy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
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You can knock Fred for drafting Shakhator, but Davis and Gray more than make up for that.


He lucked out. Still sucks that the top three picks have been a bust. Hopefully Coates shows us something once she's able to play.


And Chong too. Who would have guess Chong would be playing well while Plum is turning into a prune on the Stars bench.


THIS!


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These refs.... Rolling Eyes



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So what happened to Hartley wasn't a foul but the contact on Diggins was???????????



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So NY Fans - still want to trade Zealous?




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PostPosted: 06/16/17 9:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Skylar had the same kinda block against Hartley during the 2012 final four


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Lady plum turning into a prune
Y'all are funny Laughing


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Lady plum turning into a prune
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I almost spit out my water Laughing


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oh my god


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Z Money!



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PostPosted: 06/16/17 9:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did Stokes really think that final 30-seconds set was designed for her to post up? Um, Kiah, no.



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OT! Sucks for Tina & Sugar who played all 40 minutes.



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Z 26 points, 6 assists, 6 rebounds...



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horrible sub of #55 on that last possession ...



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glory showed some frustration not getting the ball in her post up. I don't blame her, but she did have a defender up the back of her jersey.


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Anything can happen. But how can the broadcaster say that momentum is swinging onto Dallas's side when they led for the entire game and the Liberty tied it on the last possible shot?



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I'm convinced if we had Prince & Vaughn we would have had this one won.



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sigur3 wrote:
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What the hell happen Zauli b? Like seriously...i expected more from her and she's become a disaster this year...


She was never any good tbh...and getting even fewer minutes now with the emergence of Nayo.

Remember when Laimbeer was crowing about the range Stokes has on her jumper? When was the last time she even attempted a shot outside of the paint?


what's funny she's havin her best game of the year lol

i come to the realization Stokes is what she is

Zellous has step up BIG TIME, i want Zellous or Charles with the ball in OT


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glory showed some frustration not getting the ball in her post up. I don't blame her, but she did have a defender up the back of her jersey.


Right, it was gonna be either a block or a missed shot for sure


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I'm convinced if we had Prince & Vaughn we would have had this one won.


Not like Dallas isn't missing players also.


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Randy wrote:
Who would have guess Chong would be playing well while Plum is turning into a prune on the Stars bench.


Plum's minutes (14.2mpg) haven't been that bad for a rookie, but not #1 pick minutes.




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