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PostPosted: 06/29/17 7:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Moore, Delle Donne Lead After Early Returns of WNBA All-Star Voting 2017

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EASTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Tiffany Hayes (Atl) 4,288; Tiffany Mitchell (Ind) 4,202; Kristi Toliver (Was) 3,498; Sugar Rodgers (NY) 3,480; Courtney Williams (Con) 3,239; Cappie Pondexter (Chi) 2,967; Tayler Hill (Was) 2,794; Jasmine Thomas (Con) 2,696; Shavonte Zellous (NY) 2,128; Ivory Latta (Was) 2,042; Allie Quigley (Chi) 1,939; Briann January (Ind) 1,531; Erica Wheeler (Ind) 1,507

Frontcourt: Elena Delle Donne (Was) 19,280; Tina Charles (NY) 12,055; Jonquel Jones (Con) 10,585; Candice Dupree (Ind) 4,965; Stefanie Dolson (Chi) 3,170; Alyssa Thomas (Con) 3,038; Kiah Stokes (NY) 2,567; Tamera Young (Chi) 1,924; Morgan Tuck (Con) 1,740; Imani Boyette (Chi) 1,730; Natalie Achonwa (Ind) 1,385; Bria Holmes (Atl) 1,320

WESTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Sue Bird (Sea) 16,139; Diana Taurasi (Phx) 15,207; Skylar Diggins-Smith (Dal) 11,462; Seimone Augustus (Min) 11,198; Lindsay Whalen (Min) 10,131; Jewell Loyd (Sea) 9,639; Allisha Gray (Dal) 5,766; Alana Beard (LA) 5,003; Kelsey Plum (SA) 4,221; Chelsea Gray (LA) 3,975; Moriah Jefferson (SA) 3,823; Kayla McBride (SA) 3,034; Jantel Lavender (LA) 2,002

Frontcourt: Maya Moore (Min) 19,949; Candace Parker (LA) 17,127; Sylvia Fowles (Min) 15,159; Breanna Stewart (Sea) 13,793; Nneka Ogwumike (LA) 13,563; Brittney Griner (Phx) 12,818; Rebekkah Brunson (Min) 6,236; Glory Johnson (Dal) 5,680; Ramu Tokashiki (Sea) 2,653; Karima Christmas-Kelly (Dal) 2,651; Alysha Clark (Sea) 2,517; Crystal Langhorne (Sea) 2,046


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PostPosted: 06/29/17 7:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Moore, Delle Donne Lead After Early Returns of WNBA All-Star Voting 2017

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EASTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Tiffany Hayes (Atl) 4,288; Tiffany Mitchell (Ind) 4,202; Kristi Toliver (Was) 3,498; Sugar Rodgers (NY) 3,480; Courtney Williams (Con) 3,239; Cappie Pondexter (Chi) 2,967; Tayler Hill (Was) 2,794; Jasmine Thomas (Con) 2,696; Shavonte Zellous (NY) 2,128; Ivory Latta (Was) 2,042; Allie Quigley (Chi) 1,939; Briann January (Ind) 1,531; Erica Wheeler (Ind) 1,507

Frontcourt: Elena Delle Donne (Was) 19,280; Tina Charles (NY) 12,055; Jonquel Jones (Con) 10,585; Candice Dupree (Ind) 4,965; Stefanie Dolson (Chi) 3,170; Alyssa Thomas (Con) 3,038; Kiah Stokes (NY) 2,567; Tamera Young (Chi) 1,924; Morgan Tuck (Con) 1,740; Imani Boyette (Chi) 1,730; Natalie Achonwa (Ind) 1,385; Bria Holmes (Atl) 1,320

WESTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Sue Bird (Sea) 16,139; Diana Taurasi (Phx) 15,207; Skylar Diggins-Smith (Dal) 11,462; Seimone Augustus (Min) 11,198; Lindsay Whalen (Min) 10,131; Jewell Loyd (Sea) 9,639; Allisha Gray (Dal) 5,766; Alana Beard (LA) 5,003; Kelsey Plum (SA) 4,221; Chelsea Gray (LA) 3,975; Moriah Jefferson (SA) 3,823; Kayla McBride (SA) 3,034; Jantel Lavender (LA) 2,002

Frontcourt: Maya Moore (Min) 19,949; Candace Parker (LA) 17,127; Sylvia Fowles (Min) 15,159; Breanna Stewart (Sea) 13,793; Nneka Ogwumike (LA) 13,563; Brittney Griner (Phx) 12,818; Rebekkah Brunson (Min) 6,236; Glory Johnson (Dal) 5,680; Ramu Tokashiki (Sea) 2,653; Karima Christmas-Kelly (Dal) 2,651; Alysha Clark (Sea) 2,517; Crystal Langhorne (Sea) 2,046


Griner 6th in frontcourt votes is shocking. Stewart & Bird getting the home team votes. Layshia Clarendon not even listed for the east guards is sad. Moore having an average season and is leading in votes.



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PostPosted: 06/29/17 8:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wow at Diggins- Smith not being near the top half of vote gitters.
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PostPosted: 06/29/17 9:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That's some starting lineup for the Western Conference.



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PostPosted: 06/29/17 9:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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lynxmania wrote:
Moore, Delle Donne Lead After Early Returns of WNBA All-Star Voting 2017

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EASTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Tiffany Hayes (Atl) 4,288; Tiffany Mitchell (Ind) 4,202; Kristi Toliver (Was) 3,498; Sugar Rodgers (NY) 3,480; Courtney Williams (Con) 3,239; Cappie Pondexter (Chi) 2,967; Tayler Hill (Was) 2,794; Jasmine Thomas (Con) 2,696; Shavonte Zellous (NY) 2,128; Ivory Latta (Was) 2,042; Allie Quigley (Chi) 1,939; Briann January (Ind) 1,531; Erica Wheeler (Ind) 1,507

Frontcourt: Elena Delle Donne (Was) 19,280; Tina Charles (NY) 12,055; Jonquel Jones (Con) 10,585; Candice Dupree (Ind) 4,965; Stefanie Dolson (Chi) 3,170; Alyssa Thomas (Con) 3,038; Kiah Stokes (NY) 2,567; Tamera Young (Chi) 1,924; Morgan Tuck (Con) 1,740; Imani Boyette (Chi) 1,730; Natalie Achonwa (Ind) 1,385; Bria Holmes (Atl) 1,320

WESTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Sue Bird (Sea) 16,139; Diana Taurasi (Phx) 15,207; Skylar Diggins-Smith (Dal) 11,462; Seimone Augustus (Min) 11,198; Lindsay Whalen (Min) 10,131; Jewell Loyd (Sea) 9,639; Allisha Gray (Dal) 5,766; Alana Beard (LA) 5,003; Kelsey Plum (SA) 4,221; Chelsea Gray (LA) 3,975; Moriah Jefferson (SA) 3,823; Kayla McBride (SA) 3,034; Jantel Lavender (LA) 2,002

Frontcourt: Maya Moore (Min) 19,949; Candace Parker (LA) 17,127; Sylvia Fowles (Min) 15,159; Breanna Stewart (Sea) 13,793; Nneka Ogwumike (LA) 13,563; Brittney Griner (Phx) 12,818; Rebekkah Brunson (Min) 6,236; Glory Johnson (Dal) 5,680; Ramu Tokashiki (Sea) 2,653; Karima Christmas-Kelly (Dal) 2,651; Alysha Clark (Sea) 2,517; Crystal Langhorne (Sea) 2,046


Griner 6th in frontcourt votes is shocking. Stewart & Bird getting the home team votes. Layshia Clarendon not even listed for the east guards is sad. Moore having an average season and is leading in votes.



Not that shocking to me, I don't think Griner is all that popular.


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PostPosted: 06/29/17 10:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Those numbers for the East guards Shocked

The whole 'vote for any old ten players you want' thing was always likely to be an issue there. There aren't any big names or players having explosively exciting seasons in that group. Tiffany Mitchell is still pretty much a joke as a starter, though.



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PostPosted: 06/29/17 10:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Tiffany Mitchell is still pretty much a joke as a starter, though.


Maybe people are responding to her great +/- numbers. Her net is #1 among guards and 3rd best in the league among all players.



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PostPosted: 06/29/17 10:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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lynxmania wrote:
Moore, Delle Donne Lead After Early Returns of WNBA All-Star Voting 2017

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EASTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Tiffany Hayes (Atl) 4,288; Tiffany Mitchell (Ind) 4,202; Kristi Toliver (Was) 3,498; Sugar Rodgers (NY) 3,480; Courtney Williams (Con) 3,239; Cappie Pondexter (Chi) 2,967; Tayler Hill (Was) 2,794; Jasmine Thomas (Con) 2,696; Shavonte Zellous (NY) 2,128; Ivory Latta (Was) 2,042; Allie Quigley (Chi) 1,939; Briann January (Ind) 1,531; Erica Wheeler (Ind) 1,507

Frontcourt: Elena Delle Donne (Was) 19,280; Tina Charles (NY) 12,055; Jonquel Jones (Con) 10,585; Candice Dupree (Ind) 4,965; Stefanie Dolson (Chi) 3,170; Alyssa Thomas (Con) 3,038; Kiah Stokes (NY) 2,567; Tamera Young (Chi) 1,924; Morgan Tuck (Con) 1,740; Imani Boyette (Chi) 1,730; Natalie Achonwa (Ind) 1,385; Bria Holmes (Atl) 1,320

WESTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Sue Bird (Sea) 16,139; Diana Taurasi (Phx) 15,207; Skylar Diggins-Smith (Dal) 11,462; Seimone Augustus (Min) 11,198; Lindsay Whalen (Min) 10,131; Jewell Loyd (Sea) 9,639; Allisha Gray (Dal) 5,766; Alana Beard (LA) 5,003; Kelsey Plum (SA) 4,221; Chelsea Gray (LA) 3,975; Moriah Jefferson (SA) 3,823; Kayla McBride (SA) 3,034; Jantel Lavender (LA) 2,002

Frontcourt: Maya Moore (Min) 19,949; Candace Parker (LA) 17,127; Sylvia Fowles (Min) 15,159; Breanna Stewart (Sea) 13,793; Nneka Ogwumike (LA) 13,563; Brittney Griner (Phx) 12,818; Rebekkah Brunson (Min) 6,236; Glory Johnson (Dal) 5,680; Ramu Tokashiki (Sea) 2,653; Karima Christmas-Kelly (Dal) 2,651; Alysha Clark (Sea) 2,517; Crystal Langhorne (Sea) 2,046


Griner 6th in frontcourt votes is shocking. Stewart & Bird getting the home team votes. Layshia Clarendon not even listed for the east guards is sad. Moore having an average season and is leading in votes.




For me, what's interesting is with ATL... Idea

Tiffany Hayes gets no respect, but with her leading the Eastern Guard votes, I would think that the people giving her that respect are the ATL fans... But if that's the case, why aren't the fans also voting for Clarendon? Bria Holmes is getting votes... Question



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PostPosted: 06/29/17 10:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rosters based on early votes

East
Hayes/Toliver/Pondexter
Mitchell/Rodgers/Hill
Delle Donne/AThomas
Charles/Dupree
JJones/Dolson

Top missing cut:
JThomas 2686
Stokes 2567
Zellous 2128


West (Olympic team?)
Bird/Diggins/Whalen
Taurasi/Augustus/Loyd
Moore/Stewart
Parker/Ogwumike
Fowles/Griner

Too missing cut:
Brunson 6236
AGray 5766
GJohnson 5680
Beard 5003



Keep in mind fans only get 50% of the say in the rosters this year.
I thought I read 50% somewhere, but I can't find anything to confirm that.
This blurb doesn't detail how the All Stars will be decided. I get the feeling the front office will chose whoever they want.
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For the first time ever, fans will be joined by WNBA players and media in selecting the starters for Verizon WNBA All-Star 2017. Fan voting, an all-digital program, will conclude on Thursday, July 6 at 9 p.m. ET



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PostPosted: 06/29/17 11:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

No way should A Gray should be missing the cut. She is the leading rookie so far this year. I voted for those who are playing well and were not just voted on due to thier popularity. I personally did not vote for those I was sure would make it in. Also no way Jasmine should miss the cut or Wheeler(who has been better than January)or Mitchell and Dupree.


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 1:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The fans only choose the starters the coaches choose the 7 reserves so the popular vote is thrown out the window after the starters and quality counts for more in which case you get IMO something like

east
Hayes/J. Thomas/Clarendon
Mitchell/Toliver/Rodgers
EDD/A. Thomas
Charles/Dupree
J. Jones/Dolson

I have Clarendon and Rodgers as the last two in Clarendon on her good start, Rodgers because (unless they keep losing) NY as the 2nd best team in the east should get a second player in. If not Rodgers maybe Hill or Pondexeter?

West
Bird/Diggins/C. Gray
Taurasi/Loyd/McBride
Moore/Ogwumike
Parker/Stewart
Fowles/Griner

The last spot in the west is really tough does Minny get another player in based on the record or do there next three best players cancel each other out in the sense of who do you pick between Whalen, Augustus and Brunson? If the coaches want to include all twelve teams Mcbride seems like the obvious pick from SA. Or do they give it to GloJo as the next front court option or A. Gray so they can include a rookie. I think they default to McBride to include all teams and because no one else is demanding the spot ATM


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 8:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Moore, Delle Donne Lead After Early Returns of WNBA All-Star Voting 2017

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EASTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Tiffany Hayes (Atl) 4,288; Tiffany Mitchell (Ind) 4,202; Kristi Toliver (Was) 3,498; Sugar Rodgers (NY) 3,480; Courtney Williams (Con) 3,239; Cappie Pondexter (Chi) 2,967; Tayler Hill (Was) 2,794; Jasmine Thomas (Con) 2,696; Shavonte Zellous (NY) 2,128; Ivory Latta (Was) 2,042; Allie Quigley (Chi) 1,939; Briann January (Ind) 1,531; Erica Wheeler (Ind) 1,507

Frontcourt: Elena Delle Donne (Was) 19,280; Tina Charles (NY) 12,055; Jonquel Jones (Con) 10,585; Candice Dupree (Ind) 4,965; Stefanie Dolson (Chi) 3,170; Alyssa Thomas (Con) 3,038; Kiah Stokes (NY) 2,567; Tamera Young (Chi) 1,924; Morgan Tuck (Con) 1,740; Imani Boyette (Chi) 1,730; Natalie Achonwa (Ind) 1,385; Bria Holmes (Atl) 1,320

WESTERN CONFERENCE — EARLY RETURNS LEADERS

Backcourt: Sue Bird (Sea) 16,139; Diana Taurasi (Phx) 15,207; Skylar Diggins-Smith (Dal) 11,462; Seimone Augustus (Min) 11,198; Lindsay Whalen (Min) 10,131; Jewell Loyd (Sea) 9,639; Allisha Gray (Dal) 5,766; Alana Beard (LA) 5,003; Kelsey Plum (SA) 4,221; Chelsea Gray (LA) 3,975; Moriah Jefferson (SA) 3,823; Kayla McBride (SA) 3,034; Jantel Lavender (LA) 2,002

Frontcourt: Maya Moore (Min) 19,949; Candace Parker (LA) 17,127; Sylvia Fowles (Min) 15,159; Breanna Stewart (Sea) 13,793; Nneka Ogwumike (LA) 13,563; Brittney Griner (Phx) 12,818; Rebekkah Brunson (Min) 6,236; Glory Johnson (Dal) 5,680; Ramu Tokashiki (Sea) 2,653; Karima Christmas-Kelly (Dal) 2,651; Alysha Clark (Sea) 2,517; Crystal Langhorne (Sea) 2,046


Griner 6th in frontcourt votes is shocking. Stewart & Bird getting the home team votes. Layshia Clarendon not even listed for the east guards is sad. Moore having an average season and is leading in votes.



Not that shocking to me, I don't think Griner is all that popular.


She is to a certain degree. The Griner- Johnson fiasco really plummeted her popularity. Yet, she's been having a fantastic season



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PostPosted: 06/30/17 9:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd rather have unpopular players have a fantastic season than popular ones have a subpar season.


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 11:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

From now on I'm voting for Clarendon & J Thomas for my East guards.



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PostPosted: 06/30/17 12:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tiffany Mitchell getting more votes right now than Jasmine/Alyssa Thomas is a complete joke.

Mitchell should not even be in consideration. There are 3, possible 4 Sun players that should be in the All-Star game, Mitchell should not. But whatever.

Jones and the Thomas's should be total lock's, and Williams should at least be highly considered.


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 12:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wonder if it a bunch of SC fans trying to help out an alumni.


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 2:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
I wonder if it a bunch of SC fans trying to help out an alumni.


If that is the case(I am a SC fan as well) they should be voting for A Gray who has done better than Mitchell.


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 2:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good point. Plus Gray would be more recent in their memory and did manage to get a NCAA for SC.


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PostPosted: 06/30/17 2:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bballgrl wrote:
Randy wrote:
I wonder if it a bunch of SC fans trying to help out an alumni.


If that is the case(I am a SC fan as well) they should be voting for A Gray who has done better than Mitchell.


Gray also has more votes than Mitchell. Not many people have been voting for Eastern Conference guards.



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PostPosted: 06/30/17 3:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

lynxmania wrote:
Those numbers for the East guards Shocked


It's because they don't force you to vote for any guards, nor do they distinguish between east and west...just any 10 players. It's sort of weird if they are later going to parse it out this way.

And anyway, this voting is about popularity, not actually what they are doing THIS year.



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PostPosted: 07/01/17 6:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Tiffany Mitchell getting more votes right now than Jasmine/Alyssa Thomas is a complete joke.

Mitchell should not even be in consideration. There are 3, possible 4 Sun players that should be in the All-Star game, Mitchell should not. But whatever.

Jones and the Thomas's should be total lock's, and Williams should at least be highly considered.


No way a .500 team should have 3 or 4 all star players Laughing Laughing Stop being such a homer.


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PostPosted: 07/01/17 9:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blaase22 wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Tiffany Mitchell getting more votes right now than Jasmine/Alyssa Thomas is a complete joke.

Mitchell should not even be in consideration. There are 3, possible 4 Sun players that should be in the All-Star game, Mitchell should not. But whatever.

Jones and the Thomas's should be total lock's, and Williams should at least be highly considered.


No way a .500 team should have 3 or 4 all star players Laughing Laughing Stop being such a homer.


You realize the East All-Star team has to field an entire team somehow? Smile


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PostPosted: 07/01/17 10:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Somehow, voters convinced themselves a year ago that a team can win 16 games and still have three All-WNBA players. Three All-Stars is not nearly as difficult to comprehend.

Heck, Chicago has an argument for two All-Stars. It's mostly what's happened around Quigley and Dolson that's caused the 3-12 disaster. Hard to find wins in a 12-team league with a clueless GM/coach, key players out, and crippling inefficiency from Pondexter and Young, two starters that use a lot of possessions.


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PostPosted: 07/01/17 2:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

all-stars voting is popularity contest.



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PostPosted: 07/05/17 12:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

REMINDER: Voting Ends Tomorrow

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WNBA All-Star Voting 2017 presented by Verizon concludes on Thursday, July 6 at 9 p.m. ET. Starters will be announced live on ESPN on Tuesday, July 11 during the noon ET edition of SportsCenter. The All-Star reserves, who will be selected by the Eastern and Western Conference head coaches, respectively, will be announced on Tuesday, July 18 during ESPN2’s telecast of the Storm and the Chicago Sky (9 p.m. ET).


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