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Who will win this game?
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PostPosted: 07/13/17 5:41 pm    ::: Sky @ Liberty - 7/14/17 Reply Reply with quote

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Thinking back to the Libs winning 5 of 6, if you guys remember, one big factor was how quickly the the Libs got the ball into the post. Part of that I think was to negate the ball pressure that had been used on Hartley in prior games. I think that was good for a limited stretch of games when they were desperate for wins while shorthanded.

With Piph, obviously, some of their offense will run differently. At the end of the day though, if they're going to go on a run you'll see much quicker, coordinated ball and player movement. I tend to think if that is going to be a trend in the coming games, it will be established from the start of the Chicago game just as they established it at the start of the Dallas home game that initiated the 5 wins in 6 games.

One thing we can all agree on regardless of how well we think the outlook is is that with this stretch of 3 home games in 15 days, the team is in a position where they can and should put out absolutely everything they've got, since fatigue should not be a factor. They still have an opportunity to control their own destiny when it comes to getting a top 4 seed, with upcoming games against CT and DC. So I think the urgency that they played with without Piph and Kia, it has to be there every second of every game. For Stokes especially, since I don't think a stretch of games with 13, 15 and 17 rebounds should be an anomaly for her. Hoping the last two games are an indicator of better things to come, as she showed much more life on the boards than she had in awhile.

I hate that it feels like this much is riding on 3 home games in the exact middle point of the season. But it's what we've got. For me personally, I feel like 2 out of 3 may not even be enough being we have two games with two teams directly in front of us, especially being down in the tiebreaker to both.

And at the end of the day, I still think this can be a very good team. Maybe instead of the valley occurring at the wrong time like it has the last few seasons, maybe the peak will happen at the right time this time around. I sure hope so.



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PostPosted: 07/13/17 7:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did you mean 3 home games in 5 days?


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No. I'm factoring in off days and the all-star break. They play 3 games in 6 days total. But with the off days there's no reason to worry about fatigue with 4 off days before the game tomorrow, no back-to-backs, and rest time after the game on the 19th. They don't play again till the 25th, so it's a total of 3 games over a 15-day period. Hence I'd assume that they're not worried about rationing minutes and the players shouldn't have to conserve energy in an inordinate way during games.

Bill mentioned tired legs after the Phoenix game. No more excuses.



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PostPosted: 07/13/17 8:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I see what you are saying. I guess I was only thinking about the 3 home games on the 14th, 16th and 19th.


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PostPosted: 07/13/17 8:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That's cool. Sometimes my thoughts and my clarity are not one and the same.



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PostPosted: 07/13/17 9:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Pondexter is out due to concussion protocol.



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PostPosted: 07/13/17 10:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Pondexter is out due to concussion protocol.


that's bad for the libs...with sloot and quigs together so far they've been night and day different...destroyed Minnesota...came back to get a big win...will be interesting.



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 12:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Chicago has a lot of big frontcourt players. They lead the league in blocks, so NY can't singlemindedly force the ball into the paint as they frequently do. The Liberty need to make a good number of outside shots or score off fastbreaks.



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 7:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Happycappie25 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Pondexter is out due to concussion protocol.


that's bad for the libs...with sloot and quigs together so far they've been night and day different...destroyed Minnesota...came back to get a big win...will be interesting.


What is interesting is that Cappie also seemed to play better when one or both of those two were out. She was racking up assists like crazy when she was playing PG. Of course, the Sky lost most of those games except the ones against the Dream.


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But with Pondexter out, their guards off the bench are pretty terrible(Epps, Copper, Hampton).



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 10:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
But with Pondexter out, their guards off the bench are pretty terrible(Epps, Copper, Hampton).


sort of like the Liberty...



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 12:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Enough of this winning shit! Let's go Liberty! I need more lottery balls! Laughing Laughing



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 12:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
Enough of this winning shit! Let's go Liberty! I need more lottery balls! Laughing Laughing


To quote you from the NY-Phoenix game thread:

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Clayk, you are shooting down the hopes and dreams of Liberty fans with your post. Stop telling the truth and give them Trump's alternate facts. Keep hope alive! Laughing


You're right, the Liberty suck. On the other hand, the Sky have found their groove! I predict Chicago will grab that 8th and final playoff spot. NY will replace them as a lottery team. Go Sky! Razz



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Tanqueray - Now the Official Gin of Half of the WNBA.


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HMMM... when it's T. Young beating you with threes. Laughing



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 7:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I miss Julianne Viani already.



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 7:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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HMMM... when it's T. Young beating you with threes. Laughing


Yeah, some really bad variance derailing the tank lately.



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Richyyy wrote:
I miss Julianne Viani already.


that and i miss Boyd Sad


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HMMM... when it's T. Young beating you with threes. Laughing


Yeah, some really bad variance derailing the tank lately.

Is 'variance' another word for 'concussion' these days? Wink



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I've got Breland, Quig and Tina tonight. I don't care who wins - I just want these 3 to rack up a lot points, rebounds and etc. So far they all suck.


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This game is Tot-Byears-on-a-bad-hair-day ugggggggggglyyyyyyyy



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Richyyy wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
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HMMM... when it's T. Young beating you with threes. Laughing


Yeah, some really bad variance derailing the tank lately.

Is 'variance' another word for 'concussion' these days? Wink


You said it, not me. Laughing



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Liberty getting going in the 3rd!!



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Imani Boyette is having a shitty, shitty season. Seems to be playing dumber by the game.



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Imani Boyette is having a shitty, shitty season. Seems to be playing dumber by the game.


This was the player we saw a lot in college. Not the player we often saw last season. Hard to figure out.


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Uh-oh ... Sky finding better shots than NY at the moment and threatening to pull away



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Looks flagrant to me.


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Sugar & Prince tonight are combined 3-20 shooting. Absolutely horrendous!!



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Randy wrote:
Looks flagrant to me.


But not to the refs.....


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Randy wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Imani Boyette is having a shitty, shitty season. Seems to be playing dumber by the game.


This was the player we saw a lot in college. Not the player we often saw last season. Hard to figure out.


Maybe it was Pokey? I always think Pokey is mediocre at best, but hey, some players definitely improved under her. Maybe she can get Boyette for cheap from Chicago. Indiana could use last year's version of her. Idea



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myrtle wrote:
Randy wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Imani Boyette is having a shitty, shitty season. Seems to be playing dumber by the game.


This was the player we saw a lot in college. Not the player we often saw last season. Hard to figure out.


Maybe it was Pokey? I always think Pokey is mediocre at best, but hey, some players definitely improved under her. Maybe she can get Boyette for cheap from Chicago. Indiana could use last year's version of her. Idea


Lynx fans seem to think she was terrible with Fowles, but she has done well with Sloot, Quig, Faulkner, Breland and Boyette.


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NY, you should feel embarrassed... I'm sorry but this is just awful.



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How is that not a foul on Rodgers?



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toad455 wrote:
Sugar & Prince tonight are combined 3-20 shooting. Absolutely horrendous!!


this team was so much fun and better to watch without Prince and Vaughn. its the truth.

Liambeer's stubbornness makes me sick to my stomach watching this team now


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Copper showing why I thought she would become a real player in the league. It's just taken her awhile.



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We need to get the LIU spirit squad up in here.

FREE THROWS WIN BALL GAMES!!!

Also, this blonde calling the game can take all the seats, preferably on a train going far away from here.



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LibFan25 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Sugar & Prince tonight are combined 3-20 shooting. Absolutely horrendous!!


this team was so much fun and better to watch without Prince and Vaughn. its the truth.

Liambeer's stubbornness makes me sick to my stomach watching this team now


And Sky better w/o Cappie......




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The Libs are going down. I'm yelling TIMMMMMBERRRR!



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LibFan25 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Sugar & Prince tonight are combined 3-20 shooting. Absolutely horrendous!!


this team was so much fun and better to watch without Prince and Vaughn. its the truth.

Liambeer's stubbornness makes me sick to my stomach watching this team now


And Sky better w/o Cappie......

They seem to be.
Sky now on a 3 game winning streak Shocked
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The treads are falling off.



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I wish I would have played Charles tonight instead of Delle Donne:
23 pts, 19 reb, and 1 measly assist



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Maybe we should tank. And while we're at it, trade Stokes & our second rounder(#16) to Indiana for the #3 pick.



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Thinking maybe its time to shake some things up in the new york backcourt? Prince for Sims & 1st Rounder? Or Prince For Plum? Sugar For Plum ? One of them has to go imo



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I wish I would have played Charles tonight instead of Delle Donne:
23 pts, 19 reb, and 1 measly assist


I got lucky with Charles and Sloot/Michell did ok. Counting on Fowles and Brunson later on.


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Thinking maybe its time to shake some things up in the new york backcourt? Prince for Sims & 1st Rounder? Or Prince For Plum? Sugar For Plum ? One of them has to go imo


Prince and Vaughn need to go and so does Cappie. Need a 3 or 4 team trade. Quick - get J-Spoon on it.

Let's see

Vaughn to Seattle, Swords and Cappie to Dallas, Christmas to the Sky, Prince to Russia. Vadeeva to NY. NY's FRP to Seattle. I think it works.




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If the Mercury lose tonight, the Sky are officially the hottest team in the league.



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Thinking maybe its time to shake some things up in the new york backcourt? Prince for Sims & 1st Rounder? Or Prince For Plum? Sugar For Plum ? One of them has to go imo

There's a fantastic 'Fairy' headline there somewhere if Sugar got traded for Plum. Smile



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Same stuff we've seen. Tina trying to carry the entire team. A few bright spots from individuals otherwise but that's just it. Same old individualistic play. More missed FTs from good FT shooters. I was using tonight as a gauge and what I see that's most disconcerting is the lack of mental toughness. Only Z and Tina really have it. And we saw no indicator of coordinated team play as we saw a team with inferior talent beat us by doing just that. Despite being -18 in FTA.

Women's basketball can feature odd peaks and valleys but not seeing anything different in terms of intangibles leads me to believe the season is over as far as any real playoff aspirations go.

And it looks like we've gotten the answer as to how the Piph/Sugar backcourt is going to work out.



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The treads are falling off.


What happened to the tank? Damn three game winning streak! The Sky need to stop drinking that bottled water and go back to drinking that Lake Michigan tap water. They need to find that G.I. Joe tank commander so they can get back on track.



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