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Who will win this game?
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PostPosted: 05/15/17 9:17 pm    ::: Fever @ Mercury - 5/17/17 Reply Reply with quote

10:00 PM ET
Talking Stick Resort Arena
Wednesday, May 17, 2017

TV: League Pass; FSAZ

Game info: http://www.wnba.com/game/20170517/INDPHO/



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 6:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Natch, I voted for the Mercury. But I do see Dupree having a great vengeance game and Bri playing well in front of the ASU faithful. . Maybe Sophie will get a second or two playing time.

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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GAME TIME!


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

both teams starting off cold.



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ahhhhh... how I missed "Screaming Phoenix Lady" in the offseason Laughing


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Based on Taurasi's yelling so far, I feel like tonight might be a technical kind of night! Razz


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

lynxmania wrote:
Based on Taurasi's yelling so far, I feel like tonight might be a technical kind of night! Razz

It kind of feels that way to me every game. There are some tolerant refs in this league, thankfully.



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Based on Taurasi's yelling so far, I feel like tonight might be a technical kind of night! Razz

It kind of feels that way to me every game. There are some tolerant refs in this league, thankfully.


We've got Wooten, Tiff-Bird, and the Impaler. That's a tough group to get a tech from.



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

BG is looking interested this game. (as she should against that Fever front court)



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.


Ding Ding Ding


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
BG is looking interested this game. (as she should against that Fever front court)


She came to play. Now will it be a full game or just a half game? Razz


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.

Coming out of college I suggested she might be the second-coming of Mistie Bass. Still don't think I was too far off.



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sandy has the bad habit of getting a lead and then pulling out the starters and then throwing them in to save the game. It doesn't work like that.



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Sandy has the bad habit of getting a lead and then pulling out the starters and then throwing them in to save the game. It doesn't work like that.

I don't think that a 2:30 breather early in the 2nd quarter is all that fatal



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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sigur3 wrote:
Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.


Ding Ding Ding



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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

January/Johnson/Wheeler/Mitchell have been bad. Indy needs someone to score and Pokey better say some prayers that they start hitting in the 2nd half.

Luckily for them, they have been getting to the free throw line.


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 9:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Great game if you like hearing whistles. How many fouls have been called on jumpshots already?



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Sandy has the bad habit of getting a lead and then pulling out the starters and then throwing them in to save the game. It doesn't work like that.

She tried to leave Taurasi in to carry a bench crew and it didn't really work. Might need to be Griner given that role these days, and let her get the rest while the other vet starters are in the game together.



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Anyone else getting sporadic spikes in volume?



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Midget backcourt is proving surprisingly effective this game so far



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Indy is bad. That's all I got. Laughing


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Why is this broadcast acting like Tamika Catchings is dead?



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Why is this broadcast acting like Tamika Catchings is dead?


I was thinking the exact same thing. The headline is "Retired But Not Forgotten" Laughing I'm waiting for the next one to be RIP (Retire In Peace)


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 10:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wow. A lot of bad basketball that first half, especially by Indy.

No passing, plays, or teamwork that I could discern. It was like "hey it's my turn this time to dribble around aimlessly and then throw up a brick. You had your turn."

The new "coaching" looks strangely like no coaching.


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PostPosted: 05/17/17 10:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Johnson's come back down to earth,horrible game.


And don't tell me Griner can't average 20p/10r.Brondello needs to keep her foot in Brittneys ass.Griner should be the #1 option on this mercury basketball team.


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Positives:
- BG
- We won
- That awful game eventually ended



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cthskzfn wrote:
Anyone else getting sporadic spikes in volume?


Yes I got that as well. Sound was all the way up on my computer and I could hardly hear. Then it kept going up and down and at one point there was no sound. I figured it was AT&T messing with something again.


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PostPosted: 05/18/17 12:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

cthskzfn wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.


Ding Ding Ding



Double ding ding ding


She had 11 pts in 13 minutes on 5 of 7 shooting. So she might not be that bad. She certainly hasnt done worse then what Larkins has been doing in the first 2 games of the season Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 05/18/17 3:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.



It was her knee injury vs Baylor... Not all players come back from it 100% So I'd give it another year before wondering that.. Confused



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Early in the game during one of the first timeouts, the Mercury did a tribute to Candice Dupree. Candu was the first player introduced for Indiana and, of course, the fans cheered load. I thought the tribute was a class out by the Mercury and something you don't often see when a player is traded.


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PostPosted: 05/18/17 4:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

approximately 1 time a year BG has game with 0 fouls. This time it was game vs fever.


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Two things from this game.

1.) The Mercury bench are as bad as I thought they'd be.
2.) The Fever will not be a good team this season.



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Achonwa must have been reading these comments since she came back did pretty well.

Indy is my 2nd favorite team but it annoys the hell out of me that they already had a fairly old team and then they went and made it older by getting Can'tDu. They should have decided it was time to rebuild instead of trying to limp into the playoff one more year.


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PostPosted: 05/18/17 7:27 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The Fever will not be a good team this season.


They weren't that good last year with Catchings. No reason to think they would be anything other than terrible without her.



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There is a possibility that the entire 2018 lottery will consist of all Eastern Conference teams.



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There is a possibility that the entire 2018 lottery will consist of all Eastern Conference teams.


That may be the only way to get a #1 pick in the East



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Randy wrote:
Achonwa must have been reading these comments since she came back did pretty well.

Indy is my 2nd favorite team but it annoys the hell out of me that they already had a fairly old team and then they went and made it older by getting Can'tDu. They should have decided it was time to rebuild instead of trying to limp into the playoff one more year.


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sigur3 wrote:
Starting to wonder if the reason why Achonwa hasn't gotten the minutes everyone is saying she deserves is that she isn't really that good.


Or it could be that Chatman is just such a frickin brilliant coach. Rolling Eyes I mean, I'm in absolute awe of that smooth running offensive machine she has rolled out onto the court. Laughing Laughing Laughing


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Coleman, Johnson, January: 82 minutes, 2-23 shooting, 2 rebounds, four assists (all by Johnson), four turnovers, 11 points.

Coleman was especially heinous, missing 10 shots, and amassing precisely zero rebounds and zero assists with a net rating of -74.8.

They might as well start Mitchell and see what they have, as this team is going nowhere -- and going even faster with Coleman on the court.

Meanwhile, Danielle Robinson looks like a great fit for Phoenix, and Leilani Mitchell had a good game, which is a hopeful sign. And sometimes the switch goes to "on" for Griner ...



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2.) The Fever will not be a good team this season.


Not sure who thought they'd be good or even decent. I sure didn't. Voting for the Mercury over the Fever was a no-brainer after finding out DT & PFT got married the day before their first game of the season.



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Achonwa was the second highest scorer on the team and the only one who shot over 50% (5-7) and that was in only 13 minutes.

The team was 1-15 from the arc.

If I'm coaching against Indy, we're packing the paint and daring them to shoot from range.


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Indiana just never came up with a decent answer on offense. They didn't hit a thing from outside, but just kept dribbling into the middle, going "Oh shit, Brittney's in here", then dribbling or passing back out. Shockingly, that wasn't particularly effective.

Their occasional, brief attempts to actually move Griner out of the paint (or at least vaguely out of the way) were pretty pathetic. Phoenix, with an engaged Griner for once, looked good, but Indy helped them with that.

Chatman has never made the WNBA playoffs without Delle Donne on her roster to drag the offense to the necessary level. It wouldn't be all that surprising to see that streak kept alive this season.



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Chatman has never made the WNBA playoffs without Delle Donne on her roster to drag the offense to the necessary level. It wouldn't be all that surprising to see that streak kept alive this season.


They wouldn't be a playoff team with Steph White or Lin Dunn either. They don't have the horses.



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PostPosted: 05/18/17 10:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tamika Catchings, even past her prime, was able to cover up for a lot. I think people might realize this year just how good Catchings was.


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pilight wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Chatman has never made the WNBA playoffs without Delle Donne on her roster to drag the offense to the necessary level. It wouldn't be all that surprising to see that streak kept alive this season.


They wouldn't be a playoff team with Steph White or Lin Dunn either. They don't have the horses.

We've seen worse top-6s than January/SJohnson/Coleman/Dupree/Larkins with Mitchell off the bench dragged to the playoffs by good organisation, teamwork and coaching. They started to look moderately competent last year even in games where Catchings was virtually invisible. But yeah, they lost their star player and leader for nothing in return. That's generally pretty difficult to deal with.



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Rock Hard wrote:
There is a possibility that the entire 2018 lottery will consist of all Eastern Conference teams.


No way San Antonio makes the playoffs. 2018 lottery teams should be: San Antonio, Connecticut, Atlanta & either Indiana or Chicago.



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toad455 wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
There is a possibility that the entire 2018 lottery will consist of all Eastern Conference teams.


No way San Antonio makes the playoffs. 2018 lottery teams should be: San Antonio, Connecticut, Atlanta & either Indiana or Chicago.


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But yeah, they lost their star player and leader for nothing in return. That's generally pretty difficult to deal with.


Let's face it. Their coaching got a lot worse in the off season.

I suspect they would be horrible, rudderless, and chaotic even if Catchings was still playing.


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