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PostPosted: 05/14/17 7:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Told ya K. davis was A pro. 1 down 33 to go ! Go wings



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Griner with 2 rebounds in 32 minutes.


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PostPosted: 05/14/17 7:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Taurasi and Diggins a combined 2-18 yikes.


they both literally killed my fanduel fantasy lineup


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Phoenix 54 FGA? 0 offensive rebounds? Are those real numbers?



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Phoenix 54 FGA? 0 offensive rebounds? Are those real numbers?

That's what I was going to ask as well.
Has 0 O-boards ever happened before??



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The winning DNA of the Fad Five (actually the NC3) helps the Wings consistently outplay the Merc after being down early 16-5.

The Wings need point guards who can score. Where's Odyssey Sims when you need her?

Leilani Mitchell looked like the best offensive guard out there when Danielle Robinson didn't.
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The winning DNA of the Fad Five (actually the NC3) helps the Wings consistently outplay the Merc after being down early 16-5.

The Wings need point guards who can score. Where's Odyssey Sims when you need her?

Leilani Mitchell looked like the best offensive guard out there when Danielle Robinson didn't.


Ya mean the player who implied that Dallas has an unprofessional organization? Laughing



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Griner with 2 rebounds in 32 minutes.


It's criminal for someone her height. "Reaching" for the ball is not good enough... She absolutely doesn't know how to use her lower body to position herself.


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It's going to be a long summer in Phoenix



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Heck of a debut by Davis!


Gray had a nice debut as well. Now if only Dallas can swing a deal for Alaina Coates...


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Heck of a debut by Davis!


Gray had a nice debut as well. Now if only Dallas can swing a deal for Alaina Coates...


When Powers comes back, they could do Christmas for Coates.



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RP wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
Heck of a debut by Davis!


Gray had a nice debut as well. Now if only Dallas can swing a deal for Alaina Coates...


When Powers comes back, they could do Christmas for Coates.

With Young and Copper there already, I don't see an awful lot of point to Christmas for Chicago.



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I know a team that could find a use for Powers by the way. Twisted Evil Regarding Davis, while it's only one game, from what I saw of her at South Carolina I thought highly of her presence and understanding of the game if that makes any sense. It's also worth it to point out she was on a team with enormous post presence in college, thus on a team where you didn't have the ideal spacing to drive. Dallas' offensive system is pretty tailored to getting penetrators into the paint. Once teams scout Davis and get the help defense to her earlier, I am sure she will have to do some adjusting. But she's an explosive, physically strong player. I was impressed with her D today too.

Taurasi looked awful today by the way. Awful. Her desire was so hit or miss last year. Looks like more of the same this year. She was absolutely atrocious in every aspect of basketball today. Offense, defense, playmaking, intangibles. All atrocious.



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I know a team that could find a use for Powers by the way. Twisted Evil Regarding Davis, while it's only one game, from what I saw of her at South Carolina I thought highly of her presence and understanding of the game if that makes any sense. It's also worth it to point out she was on a team with enormous post presence in college, thus on a team where you didn't have the ideal spacing to drive. Dallas' offensive system is pretty tailored to getting penetrators into the paint. Once teams scout Davis and get the help defense to her earlier, I am sure she will have to do some adjusting. But she's an explosive, physically strong player. I was impressed with her D today too.

Taurasi looked awful today by the way. Awful. Her desire was so hit or miss last year. Looks like more of the same this year. She was absolutely atrocious in every aspect of basketball today. Offense, defense, playmaking, intangibles. All atrocious.


*Liberty cough cough cough* lol


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PostPosted: 05/14/17 8:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That was the worst game I've ever seen Diana play.
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Nice games by Davis, Gray and BG. Watching the game on Twitter was good but it wasn't the kinda to get new fans.


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That was the worst game I've ever seen Diana play.


her head just isn't in the game anymore. Wasn't most of last season. Such a shame. I wonder if she's thinking of retiring soon?



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her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.



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her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.



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toad455 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.


Or maybe at her age, she just can't do it year round anymore..particularly when the league that pays the least is the most physical. Sue had to make a decision a few years from now, and IMO, Diana's going to have to make one as well. Does she want to make more money or does she want to play at home?

Agree though, one of the worst I've seen from her.

Sandy is terrible too. Seriously, what happened to Lyttle. (her and Robinson were positives...)

The team has potential, but Griner is going to have to play like an MVP this season, Sandy is going to have to play the right players (at the right time) and Diana is going to need to get her head out of her ass.



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Libra_Girl wrote:
Nice games by Davis, Gray and BG. Watching the game on Twitter was good but it wasn't the kinda to get new fans.


I thought picture quality was great. They should have had a scoreboard from the start and not used the usual announcers, but I guess that wasn't going to happen.


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toad455 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.


. . . or maybe she is just getting older and finding it harder than ever to get her body to do what her mind tells it to do.



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jap wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.


. . . or maybe she is just getting older and finding it harder than ever to get her body to do what her mind tells it to do.


Or maybe it's just a tough ask to play your best the day after your wedding.



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"I was actually disappointed we had a game the next day at 3," said Taurasi, who was 1-of-11 shooting. "If anything they could have set it up at least 24 hours (later) or a 7 o'clock game. That wasn't ideal



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Luuuc wrote:
jap wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.


. . . or maybe she is just getting older and finding it harder than ever to get her body to do what her mind tells it to do.


Or maybe it's just a tough ask to play your best the day after your wedding.



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"I was actually disappointed we had a game the next day at 3," said Taurasi, who was 1-of-11 shooting. "If anything they could have set it up at least 24 hours (later) or a 7 o'clock game. That wasn't ideal


Well, that's an attractive couple. <3

She was probably tired. Laughing



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Griner with 2 rebounds in 32 minutes.


I said it during the draft this year-I said it again when the Lynx waived her and I am saying it again. Phoenix needs to sign Chantell Osahor. She can rebound AND put in 3's. The rebounding for the Merc was terrible tonight and they need someone to fill that spot.asap. BG does not seem overly interested ingetting rebounds. If Osahor does nothing else she can rebound. I can't imagine her sitting at home doing nothing when there is a team who needs a rebounder like yesterday. Wake up Phonix and call her.


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Dallas annihilates Phoenix on boards as rookie Davis dominates


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That was one ugly came Twitter got treated to



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Dallas annihilates Phoenix on boards as rookie Davis dominates


41-17. Griner got 2 boards. Robinson got 3.

Honeymoon hangover for DT I guess.


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It is hard for me to believe that box score -- 17 rebounds? There were 66 missed field goal attempts, and 10 missed free throws. Assume half the missed free throws were the first of two ... that's a total of 71 rebounds that must be accounted for.

41+17=58, so 13 rebounds went out of bounds without being credited to an individual player. Possible, but unlikely.

In addition, despite having that rebounding edge (and minus three in turnovers), Dallas only took six more shots.

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?



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Or maybe it's just a tough ask to play your best the day after your wedding.



yeah, considering how she looked in Europe, I was going to make a smart remark about not needing dentists, but now I'll give her a pass on this one.



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It is hard for me to believe that box score -- 17 rebounds? There were 66 missed field goal attempts, and 10 missed free throws. Assume half the missed free throws were the first of two ... that's a total of 71 rebounds that must be accounted for.

41+17=58, so 13 rebounds went out of bounds without being credited to an individual player. Possible, but unlikely.

Those would be 'team rebounds', which are always higher in the WNBA than NBA for whatever reason. I count 12 in the play-by-play (not including the stupid ones they always list on dead balls after the first of multiple free throws), so that's about right. They used to list team rebounds in the box scores, but that seems to be something we've lost both at WNBA.com and ESPN.com in recent years.



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ClayK wrote:

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?


Laughing Yeah,Plaisance had a very similar performance in last years season opener vs indiana...12 points on 5-8 fg....However,Davis passes the eye test.She's a legit 5 star talent,hard worker,and team player with a great attitude.Hopefully when Powers returns,Davis continues to get consistent minutes.

Maybe dallas can get their hands on Dolson...Christmas & 2017 2nd pick for Dolson.


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zune69 wrote:
ClayK wrote:

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?


Laughing Yeah,Plaisance had a very similar performance in last years season opener vs indiana...12 points on 5-8 fg....However,Davis passes the eye test.She's a legit 5 star talent,hard worker,and team player with a great attitude.Hopefully when Powers returns,Davis continues to get consistent minutes.

Maybe dallas can get their hands on Dolson...Christmas & 2017 2nd pick for Dolson.


What would chi need with Christmas though ? & Id prefer Coates over dolson tbh . Never been a fan of her hype as a player skill wise but i love her personality though .



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WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
ClayK wrote:

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?


Laughing Yeah,Plaisance had a very similar performance in last years season opener vs indiana...12 points on 5-8 fg....However,Davis passes the eye test.She's a legit 5 star talent,hard worker,and team player with a great attitude.Hopefully when Powers returns,Davis continues to get consistent minutes.

Maybe dallas can get their hands on Dolson...Christmas & 2017 2nd pick for Dolson.


What would chi need with Christmas though ? & Id prefer Coates over dolson tbh . Never been a fan of her hype as a player skill wise but i love her personality though .


With Young now coming off the bench,Chicago needs a starting sf.Plus the sky would get a 2nd rd pick(Vivians ?).Pondexter's on her last leg.If I were chicago,i'd hold out for Gray,or put together a package to get Johnson.Coates would cost dallas Gray or Powers.That's too steep of a price for a player i'm not totally sold on.


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zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
ClayK wrote:

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?


Laughing Yeah,Plaisance had a very similar performance in last years season opener vs indiana...12 points on 5-8 fg....However,Davis passes the eye test.She's a legit 5 star talent,hard worker,and team player with a great attitude.Hopefully when Powers returns,Davis continues to get consistent minutes.

Maybe dallas can get their hands on Dolson...Christmas & 2017 2nd pick for Dolson.


What would chi need with Christmas though ? & Id prefer Coates over dolson tbh . Never been a fan of her hype as a player skill wise but i love her personality though .


With Young now coming off the bench,Chicago needs a starting sf.Plus the sky would get a 2nd rd pick(Vivians ?).Pondexter's on her last leg.If I were chicago,i'd hold out for Gray,or put together a package to get Johnson.Coates would cost dallas Gray or Powers.That's too steep of a price for a player i'm not totally sold on.


T.Young could easily become the Starting SF once this big line up fails epically. Vivians with hype i see , not sold on her game making an impact at the W level tbh . I Do agree that coates would cost us Gray Or Powers , Unless we get the #1 pick then Gray for Coates would be sufficient imo.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
ClayK wrote:

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?


Laughing Yeah,Plaisance had a very similar performance in last years season opener vs indiana...12 points on 5-8 fg....However,Davis passes the eye test.She's a legit 5 star talent,hard worker,and team player with a great attitude.Hopefully when Powers returns,Davis continues to get consistent minutes.

Maybe dallas can get their hands on Dolson...Christmas & 2017 2nd pick for Dolson.


What would chi need with Christmas though ? & Id prefer Coates over dolson tbh . Never been a fan of her hype as a player skill wise but i love her personality though .


With Young now coming off the bench,Chicago needs a starting sf.Plus the sky would get a 2nd rd pick(Vivians ?).Pondexter's on her last leg.If I were chicago,i'd hold out for Gray,or put together a package to get Johnson.Coates would cost dallas Gray or Powers.That's too steep of a price for a player i'm not totally sold on.


T.Young could easily become the Starting SF once this big line up fails epically. Vivians with hype i see , not sold on her game making an impact at the W level tbh . I Do agree that coates would cost us Gray Or Powers , Unless we get the #1 pick then Gray for Coates would be sufficient imo.


Coach Stocks demoting Young to the bench tells me she's not confident with Tamera being the starting sf.Hopefully Stocks has a change of heart.Ditto on Vivians...I never got the hype,but chicago isn't the smartest organization.Maybe Vivians has a breakout season and ends up going top 5 in the draft. Smile


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It is hard for me to believe that box score -- 17 rebounds? There were 66 missed field goal attempts, and 10 missed free throws. Assume half the missed free throws were the first of two ... that's a total of 71 rebounds that must be accounted for.

41+17=58, so 13 rebounds went out of bounds without being credited to an individual player. Possible, but unlikely.

In addition, despite having that rebounding edge (and minus three in turnovers), Dallas only took six more shots.

Kaela Davis had big games at South Carolina, but her problem at that level was doing so every time out. So far, though, she's proving me wrong as that's an impressive debut. Then again, Theresa Plaisance was 5-8 from the field, so does that mean she's going to average double figures?


You have to take into consideration the coaching style and game plans when judging a player in college. Once Coates became injured, the game plan had to change from one dimensional, i.e., continually pounding the ball inside and blocking out for Coates and Wilson to take care of the boards and score. Once changed, USC become multi-dimensional and more dynamic and it gave Davis and Gray more of an opportunity to show what they could do and they both did . Again, it's not always what you see and a player's statistics. Staley runs the show. You play by her rules, her way or you don't play.

I have no idea how the GM's before the number 10 pick passed her up. They simply didn't do their homework well enough.



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Davis may become the steal of the draft, or perhaps come back to earth before long. I recall that Shoni and Natasha Howard had some of their best games during the first weeks of their rookie seasons. While Shoni never played that well (not counting the ASG), Howard did eventually become a solid performer. When a rookie comes in opposing teams don't have scouting reports. But once they do, the player will be defended a lot better. Plus, Davis has always been a streaky shooter, so there is reason not to get too excited.....yet. (For Fred's sake I hope she does great.)


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Meyers-D said that Paris averaged double-doubles all the time at Oklahoma. What exactly does that mean?


Paris had mostly double digit scoring and rebounding in her 4 years at Oklahoma. Something crazy like over 100 double doubles.


I know what she meant to say, but how can you average double doubles all the time in college. Is "all the time" four times (out of four)? She could have said that she averaged a double-double in college, or she had double-doubles all the time. But you cannot say that she averaged double-doubles all the time.


Oh! I just attribute that to Annie MD's inability to articulate ANYTHING clearly....her errors are constant. In this game she mentioned Gray's work in NCAA final against MICHIGAN State -- and later repeated exactly what the play by play announcer had said seconds earlier. Either she doesn't pay attention or she just runs on at the mouth.

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Davis may become the steal of the draft, or perhaps come back to earth before long. I recall that Shoni and Natasha Howard had some of their best games during the first weeks of their rookie seasons. While Shoni never played that well (not counting the ASG), Howard did eventually become a solid performer. When a rookie comes in opposing teams don't have scouting reports. But once they do, the player will be defended a lot better. Plus, Davis has always been a streaky shooter, so there is reason not to get too excited.....yet. (For Fred's sake I hope she does great.)

Same with Tiffany Mitchell last year. A bunch of rookies tend to explode out of the box, then cool off once other teams have tape and scouting reports on them. The best ones are good enough to beat the defense anyway, or smart enough to evolve their games and make themselves more difficult to defend.

On another note from above, as I mentioned elsewhere, I don't see why Chicago would be all that interested in Christmas. They have Young and Copper already, plus Stocks is following Chatman's lead in trying to make Breland a 3 as well. Much as I like Christmas, she's really not much of an upgrade on the options already available.



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Suprised no one has spoke about chongs egg laid in game 1 of her pro career. 0,0 & 0 & 3 turnovers in 12 mins of play ? Shocked



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Yeah - she is killing the "Chong is the new Stokes" narrative quickly.


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Yeah - she is killing the "Chong is the new Stokes" narrative quickly.



Its dead for sure now Laughing



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No room for Chong on my fantasy team. I will give Davis some consideration though.


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Half the Mercury were probably hungover Laughing


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her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.


Or maybe at her age, she just can't do it year round anymore..particularly when the league that pays the least is the most physical. Sue had to make a decision a few years from now, and IMO, Diana's going to have to make one as well. Does she want to make more money or does she want to play at home?

Agree though, one of the worst I've seen from her.

Sandy is terrible too. Seriously, what happened to Lyttle. (her and Robinson were positives...)

The team has potential, but Griner is going to have to play like an MVP this season, Sandy is going to have to play the right players (at the right time) and Diana is going to need to get her head out of her ass.


I don't buy the age argument for Diana's play in less meaningful games vs. big games. She turned it up in the playoffs last year over here too, and had some games in Russia where she looked like she was going through the motions. I get that she will turn it up in big games, but...

Age isn't an excuse for shooting flat-footed off-balance contested jumpers. If she isn't physically up to that day-in and day-out, fine. But then pass the ball to someone who is physically capable instead of throwing away possessions for your team. You can be aging but still play as though you have a functioning brain. Diana is a high IQ player. There's no reason for her not to play like that even when she isn't physically feeling it or the games are less important.

Didn't she once say she gets "bored' with basketball or something to that effect? I think that's much closer to the reality than anything. Not saying age hasn't worn her down. Just saying if so, there's better ways to handle it than playing the way she did yesterday. Fewer minutes, fewer plays running through her, etc. I just don't think she feels challenged by the day-to-day grind of basketball anymore, until the games really count for something.

Regarding Bird, Bird is older than Diana and has torn her ACL. She still plays as hard as she can every night.



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Regarding Bird, Bird is older than Diana and has torn her ACL. She still plays as hard as she can every night.


Not sure Bird would look better on the day after her wedding and nursing a hangover.



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mercfan3 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
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her head just isn't in the game anymore.

But it is when she's in Russia? The very last game she played, all of two weeks ago, she lit Kursk up for 33 to carry UMMC to the Russian title in a deciding game.

She just can't do it as easily or as often any more.


Maybe it's all about the $$$.


Or maybe at her age, she just can't do it year round anymore..particularly when the league that pays the least is the most physical. Sue had to make a decision a few years from now, and IMO, Diana's going to have to make one as well. Does she want to make more money or does she want to play at home?

Agree though, one of the worst I've seen from her.

Sandy is terrible too. Seriously, what happened to Lyttle. (her and Robinson were positives...)

The team has potential, but Griner is going to have to play like an MVP this season, Sandy is going to have to play the right players (at the right time) and Diana is going to need to get her head out of her ass.


I don't buy the age argument for Diana's play in less meaningful games vs. big games. She turned it up in the playoffs last year over here too, and had some games in Russia where she looked like she was going through the motions. I get that she will turn it up in big games, but...

Age isn't an excuse for shooting flat-footed off-balance contested jumpers. If she isn't physically up to that day-in and day-out, fine. But then pass the ball to someone who is physically capable instead of throwing away possessions for your team. You can be aging but still play as though you have a functioning brain. Diana is a high IQ player. There's no reason for her not to play like that even when she isn't physically feeling it or the games are less important.

Didn't she once say she gets "bored' with basketball or something to that effect? I think that's much closer to the reality than anything. Not saying age hasn't worn her down. Just saying if so, there's better ways to handle it than playing the way she did yesterday. Fewer minutes, fewer plays running through her, etc. I just don't think she feels challenged by the day-to-day grind of basketball anymore, until the games really count for something.

Regarding Bird, Bird is older than Diana and has torn her ACL. She still plays as hard as she can every night.


No. She absolutely didn't.

People at Diana's age need a break. My point with Sue was simply that Sue made the decision to only play in the US. I think, if she wants to prolong her career..Diana's going to need to make a decision to play one place over the other at some point in the near future.

Again, wedding night and nursing a hangover. If she's playing this way for the next couple games..then we can talk about it..but I think we should give her a break for this one game.



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No. She absolutely didn't.

People at Diana's age need a break. My point with Sue was simply that Sue made the decision to only play in the US. I think, if she wants to prolong her career..Diana's going to need to make a decision to play one place over the other at some point in the near future.

Again, wedding night and nursing a hangover. If she's playing this way for the next couple games..then we can talk about it..but I think we should give her a break for this one game.

So we're ignoring the, ooh, 70% of last season she played like she didn't really give a shit?



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