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Who will win this game?
Stars
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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Liberty are still gelling. Most teams are like this early in the season. I'll give it time. Positives: Burdick, Nayo & Vaughn. Prince & Rodgers playing together. Disappointing so far: Boyd & Zahui B. Stokes still isn't an offensive option, Boyd was a mess running the floor in her 3 minutes of playing time & Rodgers' shot not being there. But it's only game 1 and we're fortunate to be playing the Stars minus Plum, McBride & Jefferson.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Isabelle Harrison looks good for San Antonio. Really like what Cierra Burdick's doing today for the Libs.

I just want to know where Monique Currie learned to tackle so fundamentally soundly. Yes, it's a foul, but I'm a football fan too.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I LOVE the League Pass. It's the best sports sub. value, imo.

But, just like last year, my picture isn't HD quality and, so far today, the audio isn't synced.

All my watchespn video as well as playstation vue and slingtv streams are great video quality. I don't know why L.P. is the exception.

You are right. I want to know why the game is a visual hot mess and the commercials are crystal clear? Evil or Very Mad



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Liberty don't look like a top 4 seed,at least not yet.They're giving up too many wide open jumpshots,and offensive rebounds.The stars are playing without their top 3 players.Liberty should be blowing this team out.


I'm not pleased about 9 offensive rebounds mostly on bad box outs but I think the execution is pretty good. 11 assists 7 turnovers. Team looks good with Piph at the point and have missed a lot of wide open looks. Especially Sugar.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Isabelle Harrison looks good for San Antonio. Really like what Cierra Burdick's doing today for the Libs.

I just want to know where Monique Currie learned to tackle so fundamentally soundly. Yes, it's a foul, but I'm a football fan too.


She wants to give the Giants defense some tips on tackling so they can win one more championship. Wink



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Boyd doing all she can to get thrown back in the dog house.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Boyd doing all she can to get thrown back in the dog house.


Honestly, if she doesn't get her act together, I can see her getting traded once Prince is back from her Russian NT commitment.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Whatever Izzy's stats end up being, they won't reflect how well she's played. Easily San Antonio's best frontcourt player today while playing against a massive opponent



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Was just going to say the same. Her stats are not going to be great at this clip but she looks really good. If she can start finishing some of these shots....she will be a great pickup

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Whatever Izzy's stats end up being, they won't reflect how well she's played. Easily San Antonio's best frontcourt player today while playing against a massive opponent


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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Boyd just made two FTs. Put it down in the history books.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Get Zahui b a touch,please.


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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Playing Coffey at PF is just stupid.She doesn't have the strength nor size to comtend with the bigger post players.


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Playing Coffey at PF is just stupid.She doesn't have the strength nor size to comtend with the bigger post players.


Though playing her against Zahui B is probably smart. No way this would work against Charles.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nice move by Coffey. She should have had more minutes than she has so far.


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PostPosted: 05/13/17 3:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Playing Coffey at PF is just stupid.She doesn't have the strength nor size to comtend with the bigger post players.


Though playing her against Zahui B is probably smart. No way this would work against Charles.


Yeah,Coffey scored on Zahui,but Amanda got the offensive rebound putback on the previous possession.

lynxmania wrote:
Nice move by Coffey. She should have had more minutes than she has so far.


Some of Hamby's minutes should go to Coffey.




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Playing Coffey at PF is just stupid.She doesn't have the strength nor size to comtend with the bigger post players.


With Stars missing ENTIRE backcourt and top 3 guards, the abysmal assist numbers are understandable. But, unless Coffey picks up her game, they will lose a lot of close games this season. Izzy Harrison and Ericka DeSousa can hold down at Center and with strong guard play, Mo Currie can play more to her strengths - rebounding, mixing it up and drawing fouls.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 4:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

see this why i love Boyd, she has that NYC edge, she plays hard. i LOVE it


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PostPosted: 05/13/17 4:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Boyd still being Boyd. Needs to keep her head in the game.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 4:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Don't know why people are killing her. She's played well today. Bad judgment on the two early fouls but I'm otherwise pleased.



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 4:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wheres R.Allen??



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security for the refs....lol



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 4:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Boyd just made two FTs. Put it down in the history books.


You mean because she's a career 72% ft shooter??


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here comes the meaningless 3 to beat me... Confused


eta: ooops, thought it was 8.5. ha. already lost. great start to the season. Laughing



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VJ does know theres no such thing as a 9 pt play right?



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 4:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Wheres R.Allen??


I think he finally retired.



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
Don't know why people are killing her. She's played well today. Bad judgment on the two early fouls but I'm otherwise pleased.


Boyd played a helluva fourth quarter. She came in and immediately set the tone. Picked the team up and carried it to the finish line. Yet, people ate bashing her by saying she's one step out of league....lol. Umm, not happening, sorry to disappoint.

Hilarious, same fans who bitched about Cappie, are bitching about Boyd. She's the new whipping girl. C'mon, you guys don't really, want her off the team..that would mean, you'd have to find someone else to bitch about...but that's where your joy comes from.

Enjoy the season...but most of all enjoy Brittany Boyd.😋



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sigur3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Wheres R.Allen??


I think he finally retired.


Lol Rebecca



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PostPosted: 05/13/17 5:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Boyd was a completely different player the second half. So was Zahui B. Just like season, we're going to rely a lot on our bench to score. Hopefully Allen comes back soon. Loved what I saw from Nayo, Hartley & especially Burdick!!



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Laimbeer destroyed the team's execution and effort post game. He said if they want to win a championship that effort won't get it done and "they ain't gonna win nothin'" playing like that. He also correctly cited missed FTs and boxing out.

I thought the late 3rd and early 4th were pretty bad but I thought the first half was ok in terms of execution on offense. They did miss FTs and as I at least pointed out in the first half, the boxing out was terrible.

Though otherwise I haven't really predicted much that actually has happened. And I think he's right to let them know the effort wasn't good enough, but I also think he's trying to toughen the team up.



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
Laimbeer destroyed the team's execution and effort post game. He said if they want to win a championship that effort won't get it done and "they ain't gonna win nothin'" playing like that.

I thought the late 3rd and early 4th were pretty bad but I thought the first half was ok in terms of execution on offense. They did miss FTs and as I at least pointed out in the first half, the boxing out was terrible.


It would have been a 15 point win if they could make a layup in the first half. But yeah, there's no reason why he should have had to put his starters back in at the end given their physical advantage.



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Coulda been worse too. San Antonio missed 12 FTs.



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SAS did pretty well considering they seemed to have only 2 players, Currie and Harrison, who could put the ball in the basket. Harrison was a real find for SAS. Not much impressed by the Libs, all they could do was play pretty much even most of the game against a team without their top scorers except for Harrison. I guess a lot of the credit should go to VJ for teaching tough defense. I assume SAS will have the same players tomorrow. I hope Hamby and Alexander can step up and act like they are veterans.


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Alexander barely played. If that's a reflection of what VJ generally thinks of her, I'd be tempted to give Riley a call and see if she's available on the cheap. She looked like she was developing into something at least somewhat useful last season.



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Alexander barely played. If that's a reflection of what VJ generally thinks of her, I'd be tempted to give Riley a call and see if she's available on the cheap. She looked like she was developing into something at least somewhat useful last season.


Those two very quick fouls probably did not give VJ much faith in her today.



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Once the Libs started getting their act together, the game was a pleasure to watch. After almost 5 years away from a live WNBA, I must say, not much has changed - the officials still suck, Bill Laimbeer still yells a lot, the Libs still make dumb mistakes and take unnecessary fouls, and not much has changed with the Libs arena experience, except for the addition of the MC guy who wanders around (I found it annoying in CT too). MSG food has gotten WAY better albeit WAY more expensive. Still not letting people keep the caps on their water/soda bottles. That super tshirt cannon was new, as was the flaming torch thing. I remember home openers in the past being different, though - am I making this up or didn't they used to intro the whole team at the home opener, not just the starters?

The kid was underwhelmed, though she did appreciate the snacks. At one point she did say she wanted to be a basketball player when she grows up (a relief, since she also said she wanted to be a cop, breaking the hearts of her two public defender moms). By the end, she said it was fun, but she likes soccer better (seriously? Soccer is like watching paint dry... in humidity.). Not sure if she'll be ready for another game anytime soon.


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so listened to Bill Liambeer's post game interview, he was not happy. one alarming thing he said was Kiah Stokes is out of shape SMH thats not good.
so i wonder if he could start Nayo at PF? i loved her hustle i want to see more of her


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so listened to Bill Liambeer's post game interview, he was not happy. one alarming thing he said was Kiah Stokes is out of shape SMH thats not good.
so i wonder if he could start Nayo at PF? i loved her hustle i want to see more of her


Stokes was a mess today. I see Vaughn starting once she's back from her Euro commitment. Have Zahui B back-up Vaughn and Nayo back-up Charles. If Stokes isn't improved by the end of the season, I could see Laimbeer trading her. She never provided offense, and if she's slow getting up the court and can't rebound, why keep her.



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LibFan25 wrote:
so listened to Bill Liambeer's post game interview, he was not happy. one alarming thing he said was Kiah Stokes is out of shape SMH thats not good.
so i wonder if he could start Nayo at PF? i loved her hustle i want to see more of her

The policy for years in New York from Laimbeer has been to put big bodies at the 5 next to Charles so that she doesn't have to do all the banging inside - so that seems distinctly unlikely. Vaughn maybe, or even AZB if she learns how to defend anything with a pulse, but a small 4 that moves Charles to the 5 will be further down the list.



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LibFan25 wrote:
so listened to Bill Liambeer's post game interview, he was not happy. one alarming thing he said was Kiah Stokes is out of shape SMH thats not good.
so i wonder if he could start Nayo at PF? i loved her hustle i want to see more of her


Stokes was a mess today. I see Vaughn starting once she's back from her Euro commitment. Have Zahui B back-up Vaughn and Nayo back-up Charles. If Stokes isn't improved by the end of the season, I could see Laimbeer trading her. She never provided offense, and if she's slow getting up the court and can't rebound, why keep her.


yeah he was so disappointed in her, Stokes better wake the f**k up cuz Bill will not have it. honestly i thought she kinda slowed down after the olympics, it was like she was tired or something, she was not as active blocking shots like she used to be. im cool with Vaughn starting i thought she played solid, so did Prince. i like Prince comin off the bench for instant offense, Hartley was okay i want her to shoot when she's open, she's got a nice shoot. but Bill is right we would be blown out if we had played against the Lynx


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They're going to need Stokes to get in shape, plain and simple. She's their only shot blocker and their greatest defensive presence. I'm shocked by how she looks though. From day 1 with NY she could always run. This year she looks bottom heavy and a step or two slower. Still has the quick hops at least but it's certainly still not acceptable and disappointing from a player I would not have expected to be out of shape. I really like the Vaughn/Hartley acquisition for Swords. Swords helped the team and I appreciate her contributions for the last two years. But Kia gives you so much more versatility on offense because of the edges in athleticism and perimeter game. Bill ID'ed her as one of the few positives in his postgame press conference. He mentioned her weight loss and overall dedication.



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Richyyy wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
so listened to Bill Liambeer's post game interview, he was not happy. one alarming thing he said was Kiah Stokes is out of shape SMH thats not good.
so i wonder if he could start Nayo at PF? i loved her hustle i want to see more of her

The policy for years in New York from Laimbeer has been to put big bodies at the 5 next to Charles so that she doesn't have to do all the banging inside - so that seems distinctly unlikely. Vaughn maybe, or even AZB if she learns how to defend anything with a pulse, but a small 4 that moves Charles to the 5 will be further down the list.


And when Vaughn is out for those three weeks, I'd assume someone like Kai James will come back. Charles at the 5 is really only an emergency situation.



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Richyyy wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
so listened to Bill Liambeer's post game interview, he was not happy. one alarming thing he said was Kiah Stokes is out of shape SMH thats not good.
so i wonder if he could start Nayo at PF? i loved her hustle i want to see more of her

The policy for years in New York from Laimbeer has been to put big bodies at the 5 next to Charles so that she doesn't have to do all the banging inside - so that seems distinctly unlikely. Vaughn maybe, or even AZB if she learns how to defend anything with a pulse, but a small 4 that moves Charles to the 5 will be further down the list.


yea i would not be surprise to see Vaughn starting Thursday against the Lynx, i wonder who is gonna be guarding Maya Moore


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If Zellous starts again I'd think it would be her.



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Burdick gets the first highlight of the 2017 WNBA season!!

Very Happy


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Slow start for both teams. Izzy looking good early.

Hometown fave Hartley gets a big hand as she checks in...

I hope Izzy can stay healthy and have a real good year.


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Currie's got a good sense of humor. She's always been in that vein of DMJ and Pierson, though; you loathe them on the court unless they play for you, but they're great off the court.



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True. I only thought or said "I Hate Currie" 5 or 6 times today myself. I've mellowed with age.



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Boyd must really be disliked around the league. I know personally that makes me like her more. I wish more Libs players had that edge to their games.



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