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PostPosted: 09/10/17 12:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Gabby plays with a lot of intensity, can guard all five positions, is always moving on defense, and she’s a Stat sheet stuffer, I think she can be Catchings like.

Collier is a big time scorer with a high basketball IQ, she is also a good rebounder, she’s like a smaller Delle Donne to me.
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At 5'11 she won't able to guard all five positions in the W



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I think at works Gabbie Williams will be an Alyssa Thomas type player, at best Catchings. I'm sure she'll contribute to whatever team drafts sooner than later.



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pilight wrote:
At 5'11 she won't able to guard all five positions in the W


I’m sure the same was said about draymond green and, Kawhi Leonard heading into the NBA. Other then Griner, Fowles, and Cambage I’m sure Gabby could slow down Charles, Jones, and some of the other thin, or smaller WNBA post.
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Not sure what player you have been watching but she is nothing like EDD not remotely close, 4 inches shorter, majority of shots are around the rim and as I said in an earlier post she does not have the same IQ as Williams as Geno is unable to put her in situations where you break a press, inbound without turning it over, feed the post, initiate any offense or pick n roll. Geno puts her in a position to catch close to the rim where she does not have to think as that's where she is best at finishing. She can hit an open jumper but as we saw in the FF game she struggled when guarded, especially on the low block and in trying to make decisions when the pressure was on. Geno is the master of putting players in places where they can be successful hiding weaknesses, IQ and decision making are her weaknesses. Right now she would be a hi motor hustle player but she will have to show better decision making over the next 2 years.


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bballjunkie wrote:
Not sure what player you have been watching but she is nothing like EDD not remotely close, 4 inches shorter, majority of shots are around the rim and as I said in an earlier post she does not have the same IQ as Williams as Geno is unable to put her in situations where you break a press, inbound without turning it over, feed the post, initiate any offense or pick n roll. Geno puts her in a position to catch close to the rim where she does not have to think as that's where she is best at finishing. She can hit an open jumper but as we saw in the FF game she struggled when guarded, especially on the low block and in trying to make decisions when the pressure was on. Geno is the master of putting players in places where they can be successful hiding weaknesses, IQ and decision making are her weaknesses. Right now she would be a hi motor hustle player but she will have to show better decision making over the next 2 years.

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Draft Site has updated their mock with updated order. Interesting note, Kelsey Mitchell was removed from their mock, did I miss something?

https://www.draftsite.com/wnba/mock-draft/2018/



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toad455 wrote:
Draft Site has updated their mock with updated order. Interesting note, Kelsey Mitchell was removed from their mock, did I miss something?

https://www.draftsite.com/wnba/mock-draft/2018/

They made several errors that's all. Russell is missing from the list too.



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PostPosted: 09/13/17 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Unless players like Greenwell, Shakayla Thomas, Kia Nurse, or Vivians go on to be all stars, this draft is sorta top heavy.
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toad455 wrote:
Draft Site has updated their mock with updated order. Interesting note, Kelsey Mitchell was removed from their mock, did I miss something?

https://www.draftsite.com/wnba/mock-draft/2018/


It's always amusing reading mock drafts. Razz Not sure how some of the choices were made for this one. Shakayla Thomas to the Sun? No thanks! One undersized can't-shoot frontcourt Thomas is enough, and I don't think Shakayla is a playmaker like Alyssa (FSU fans correct me if I'm wrong).

Would rather have Nared, Scaife, Nurse, Atkins, pretty much any guard listed below #9.


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I'm going to do a mock draft since no one has done one for a while, assuming Stevens declares.
1. San Antonio- Aja Wilson
2. Chicago- Azure Stevens
3. Indiana- Kelsey Mitchell
4. Chicago- Gabby Williams
5. Seattle- Diamond Deshields
6. Dallas- Monique Billings
7. Washington- Mercededes Russell
8. Phoenix- Lexie Brown
9. Connecticut- Jordan Canada
10. New York- Jamie Nared
11. Los Angeles- Kia Nurse
12. Minnesota- Tyler Scaife

13. San Antonio- Rebecca Greenwell
14. Indiana- Tyler Scaife
15. Connecticut- Shakayla Thomas
16. Chicago- Victoria Vivians
17. Seattle- Emily Potter
18. Dallas- Begos Faz Devalos
19. Washington- Kaylee Jensen
20. Phoenix- Maria Vadeeva
22. New York- Khalia Hillsman
23. Los Angeles- Katelyn Flahrety
24 Minnesota- Mikayla Cowling

25. San Antonio- Ariel Atkins
26. Indiana- Brook McCarty
27. Atlanta- Kaylee Johnsom
28. Chicago- Ke'Shunan Jones
29. Seattle- Amy Griffin
30. Dallas- Randi Brown
31. Washington- Marie Gulich
32. Phoenix- Camille Zimmerman
33. Connecticut- Lili Thompson
34. New York- Brittany McPhee
35. Los Angeles- Lexie Bando
36. Minnesota- Carlie Wagner



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I never heard of Bego Faz Davalos, so I had to do some research.

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=211596098

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Davalos will transfer from Fresno State where she played the past three seasons and will have one year of eligibility at Duke in 2017-18.

“We are absolutely thrilled to welcome Bego and her family to the Duke family,” said McCallie. “Bego is a tremendous person, a great student and a terrific basketball player who loves to play physically, can rebound aggressively, likes to block shots, and scores consistently as well. She had a fabulous career at Fresno State. Bego will join Becca and Lexie in the MMS program at Fuqua.”

A 6-3 center from San Luis Potosi, Mexico, Davalos is one of the top shot blockers in the nation swatting 346 shots over the last three seasons with Fresno State. The reigning two-time Mountain West Defensive Player of the Year, Davalos is coming off averaging 14.6 points, 11.2 rebounds, 3.5 blocks, 1.8 assists and 1.5 steals as a junior. Her 3.5 blocks ranked third nationally, while her 11.2 rebounds were seventh and 21 double-doubles ranked fourth.

Davalos is also a two-time All-Mountain West Team and Mountain West All-Defensive Team selection. She holds five Fresno State records (three season records and two career records) along with eight Mountain West records (five season records, one career record and two single-game record). Davalos became the 23rd player in Bulldog history to reach 1,000 career points this past year.

She enters her senior season as the NCAA active leader in blocks (346), rebounds (896) and double-doubles (37). Davalos has also collected two triple-doubles over her career.



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UK1996 wrote:
I'm going to do a mock draft since no one has done one for a while, assuming Stevens declares.
1. San Antonio- Aja Wilson
2. Chicago- Azure Stevens
3. Indiana- Kelsey Mitchell
4. Chicago- Gabby Williams
5. Seattle- Diamond Deshields
6. Dallas- Monique Billings
7. Washington- Mercededes Russell
8. Phoenix- Lexie Brown
9. Connecticut- Jordan Canada
10. New York- Jamie Nared
11. Los Angeles- Kia Nurse
12. Minnesota- Tyler Scaife

13. San Antonio- Rebecca Greenwell
14. Indiana- Tyler Scaife
15. Connecticut- Shakayla Thomas
16. Chicago- Victoria Vivians
17. Seattle- Emily Potter
18. Dallas- Begos Faz Devalos
19. Washington- Kaylee Jensen
20. Phoenix- Maria Vadeeva
22. New York- Khalia Hillsman
23. Los Angeles- Katelyn Flahrety
24 Minnesota- Mikayla Cowling

25. San Antonio- Ariel Atkins
26. Indiana- Brook McCarty
27. Atlanta- Kaylee Johnsom
28. Chicago- Ke'Shunan Jones
29. Seattle- Amy Griffin
30. Dallas- Randi Brown
31. Washington- Marie Gulich
32. Phoenix- Camille Zimmerman
33. Connecticut- Lili Thompson
34. New York- Brittany McPhee
35. Los Angeles- Lexie Bando
36. Minnesota- Carlie Wagner


Your first round is pretty good, except when you get to #12. You list Schaife twice, so how about you letting that second team draft Scaife and let MIN roll the dice with Vadeeva. I'll nibble on her hype for now. Love Carlie at #36. Not a more deserving Gopher to deserve a shot.

You left out some notables.
Tyra Buss - On the small side but tough. She's at Indiana so Curt Miller may have recruited her. You know what that means. Odds are high he drafts her.
Morgan William - UConn killer
Linnae Harper - Another tough guard, U23 member, from Chicago.
Stephanie Mavunga - I don't think she's that big of a deal but J-Spoon seems to like her.

I was going to say Mariya Moore, but it looks like she's sitting out a year after transferring to USC.



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PostPosted: 09/14/17 9:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This does appear to be a good draft, with potential WNBA-level players (rotation at least) through most of the first round.

To me, the sure things are A'ja Wilson and Kelsey Mitchell, and I don't really know enough about Azure Stevens to say, though it seems clear she should be able to contribute.

Even a player like Canada, who I have downplayed because of her perimeter shooting, could turn out to be a solid player. And of course a couple players will emerge from the second and third rounds, though picking out who they might be is like throwing darts at a list on the wall.



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Shades wrote:
UK1996 wrote:
I'm going to do a mock draft since no one has done one for a while, assuming Stevens declares.
1. San Antonio- Aja Wilson
2. Chicago- Azure Stevens
3. Indiana- Kelsey Mitchell
4. Chicago- Gabby Williams
5. Seattle- Diamond Deshields
6. Dallas- Monique Billings
7. Washington- Mercededes Russell
8. Phoenix- Lexie Brown
9. Connecticut- Jordan Canada
10. New York- Jamie Nared
11. Los Angeles- Kia Nurse
12. Minnesota- Tyler Scaife

13. San Antonio- Rebecca Greenwell
14. Indiana- Stephanie Mavunga
15. Connecticut- Shakayla Thomas
16. Chicago- Victoria Vivians
17. Seattle- Emily Potter
18. Dallas- Begos Faz Devalos
19. Washington- Kaylee Jensen
20. Phoenix- Maria Vadeeva
22. New York- Khalia Hillsman
23. Los Angeles- Katelyn Flahrety
24 Minnesota- Mikayla Cowling

25. San Antonio- Ariel Atkins
26. Indiana- Brook McCarty
27. Atlanta- Kaylee Johnsom
28. Chicago- Ke'Shunan Jones
29. Seattle- Amy Griffin
30. Dallas- Randi Brown
31. Washington- Marie Gulich
32. Phoenix- Camille Zimmerman
33. Connecticut- Lili Thompson
34. New York- Brittany McPhee
35. Los Angeles- Lexie Bando
36. Minnesota- Carlie Wagner


Your first round is pretty good, except when you get to #12. You list Schaife twice, so how about you letting that second team draft Scaife and let MIN roll the duce with Vadeeva. I'll nibble on the hype for now.

You left out some notables.
Tyra Buss - On the small side but tough. She's at Indiana so Curt Miller may have recruited her. You know what that means. Odds are high he drafts her.
Morgan William - UConn killer
Linnae Harper - Another tough guard, U23 member, from Chicago.
Stephanie Mavunga - I don't think she's that big of a deal but J-Spoon seems to like her.

I was going to say Mariya Moore, but it looks like she's sitting out a year after transferring to USC.
Insert Mavunga where Scaife was drafted the 2nd time. She's from the Indianapolis area anyways, and is Jeanette Pohlen's sister in law. I'm not sold on Morgan William getting drafted. Harper while a great player had a skill set I'm not sure will translate. She's a PF in a PG body. Buss I haven't seen enough to make an assumption.


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You don't know enough about Buss but you know about some of these other names? Looks like draftsite.com mid-major fillers to me.



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Shades wrote:
You don't know enough about Buss but you know about some of these other names? Looks like draftsite.com mid-major fillers to me.


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PostPosted: 09/16/17 7:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Since the lottery is ppd until further notice, here's my first round mock.

1. San Antonio - A. Wilson
2. Chicago - G. Williams
3. Indiana - A. Stevens
4. Chicago - K. Mitchell
5. Seattle - T. McCowan
6. Dallas - D. DeShields
7. Washington - M. Russell
8. Phoenix - M. Billings
9. Connecticut - J. Canada
10. New York - S. Thomas
11. Los Angeles - L. Brown
12. Minnesota - J. Nared



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PostPosted: 09/16/17 11:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Since the lottery is ppd until further notice, here's my first round mock.

1. San Antonio - A. Wilson
2. Chicago - G. Williams
3. Indiana - A. Stevens
4. Chicago - K. Mitchell
5. Seattle - T. McCowan
6. Dallas - D. DeShields
7. Washington - M. Russell
8. Phoenix - M. Billings
9. Connecticut - J. Canada
10. New York - S. Thomas
11. Los Angeles - L. Brown
12. Minnesota - J. Nared


*That'd be a nice draft for the Sky.
*If SEA knows what they are doing, they would love McCowan. I'm curious who you'd have them pick should McCowan not declare early. SEA and DAL have similar needs.
*You're pretty stubborn at the notion that DeShields and DAL want each other despite what DAL needs, which is more balance. If DAL doesn't want a big at #6, they should really consider trading or packaging the pick.
*Connecticut picking Canada would mean they are setting up a battle between Banham, Romero, and Canada for that backup PG spot. Of course, Banham could be the third SG.
*You're a NYL fan, and you have them picking the biggest surprise of the first round in Thomas. Maybe you should go into a little more depth as to what she would add to the Liberty.
*I believe Nared would be viewed as a SF prospect for the WNBA. That would mean you believe the Lynx are wasting their time looking at Zandalasini as a backup to Maya and that whole situation will fall through. Maybe it will... haven't gotten much feedback on what Reeve thinks of Zandalasini. She surely isn't going to be used much going forward. I like the Lynx taking Nurse or Vadeeva (if she can back up the hype this offseason) under your scenio.



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PostPosted: 09/16/17 10:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Last years a lot of mock drafts were burned by including DD and K. Mitchell before the draft (and completely missed on Gray and Dais while they were at it.)


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J-Spoon wrote:
Last years a lot of mock drafts were burned by including DD and K. Mitchell before the draft (and completely missed on Gray and Dais while they were at it.)


Early mocks were "burned" but who cares? All you can do is the best you can do with the information at hand. DeShields was stupid and unpredictable... who da thunk? For me, Mitchell leaving early was more wishful thinking than anything else. Probably should have seen Gray and Davis coming right after they won the championship, but can we apply what we learned from them to Azura Stevens? Will she be one and done at Connecticut? She's my strongest candidate to declare early. Could be wrong about that, but what we're trying to do here (especially early on) is not easy. Nobody is psychic here that I'm aware of. Watch games, read articles, pool ideas, gain experience... and I think the end result is pretty good. So good that a newbie coach felt insecure enough to take a shot at us because nobody liked Shaqator in the first round, and then fall flat on his face with that opinion. At least he doesn't have far to fall.



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toad455 wrote:
Since the lottery is ppd until further notice, here's my first round mock.

1. San Antonio - A. Wilson
2. Chicago - G. Williams
3. Indiana - A. Stevens
4. Chicago - K. Mitchell
5. Seattle - T. McCowan
6. Dallas - D. DeShields
7. Washington - M. Russell
8. Phoenix - M. Billings
9. Connecticut - J. Canada
10. New York - S. Thomas
11. Los Angeles - L. Brown
12. Minnesota - J. Nared


I am a big fan of Gabby Williams, but if Indiana takes her with Kelsey Mitchell still on the board, I don't even know what I will do ...


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toad455 wrote:
Since the lottery is ppd until further notice, here's my first round mock.

1. San Antonio - A. Wilson
2. Chicago - G. Williams
3. Indiana - A. Stevens
4. Chicago - K. Mitchell
5. Seattle - T. McCowan
6. Dallas - D. DeShields
7. Washington - M. Russell
8. Phoenix - M. Billings
9. Connecticut - J. Canada
10. New York - S. Thomas
11. Los Angeles - L. Brown
12. Minnesota - J. Nared


I think Stevens will be a great pro, and be able to play small forward at 6’6, but she’s only been a 3rd team All American to this point, maybe she’ll light it up this season, but I can’t see her coming out of college early. Looking at your Mock draft, the 1st round is pretty deep, I see 7 players who could be potential All stars, not included Stevens.
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33. Connecticut- Lili Thompson


Gosh, I'd forgotten about Lili Thompson. Curious to see how she does with ND. She's played with Chiney - I like this third round pick.


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Shades wrote:
a newbie coach felt insecure enough to take a shot at us


What??? Laughing Laughing Laughing


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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:

I think Stevens will be a great pro, and be able to play small forward at 6’6


Maybe that's the solution for Connecticut. Jonquel Jones can play SF on the offensive side. She'll demand that a tall player come out to guard her because she can hit the three. Then on the defensive side, play her at center to get all those defensive rebounds.

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
she’s only been a 3rd team All American to this point


Who cares? What team All American were Gray & Davis? Is that what determines when a player leaves college basketball? I don't think so. DeShields?

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
maybe she’ll light it up this season, but I can’t see her coming out of college early.


Just like nobody could see Gray & Davis coming out early.



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Shades wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:

I think Stevens will be a great pro, and be able to play small forward at 6’6


Maybe that's the solution for Connecticut. Jonquel Jones can play SF on the offensive side. She'll demand that a tall player come out to guard her because she can hit the three. Then on the defensive side, play her at center to get all those defensive rebounds.

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
she’s only been a 3rd team All American to this point


Who cares? What team All American were Gray & Davis? Is what determines when a player leaves college basketball? I don't think so. DeShields?

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
maybe she’ll light it up this season, but I can’t see her coming out of college early.


Just like nobody could see Gray & Davis coming out early.


You made some good points, but There’s a chance Stevens won’t even be a starter the full season at Uconn, also Davis and Gray didn’t go top 2 in the draft. Jones and Stevens are not the same player, I would liken Jones to Karl Anthony Towns, and Stevens to Kevin Durant, if Stevens is asked to play inside for Uconn it will only limit her game, and if I’m not mistaken she’s never really played at the 5 in college.
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NURSE.

After first few picks, teams will kick their own asses for passing on Nurse, if they do.

No brainer pick, long career, solid player, big, strong, good shooter, good penetrator, rebounder, good defender, team player, smart, savvy, well schooled, experienced, Olympian, and WNBA ready.

Realize and understand some teams have special needs and will have to address those and some teams will opt for a chance at a possible but not guaranteed superstar, however, thereafter...

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I'm gonna take a stab at what you've already started UK. I think Scaife may be a little high, but Minn does need a back up. I'm gonna add McCowen also, as I think she's more likely to declare early. I think Stevens is likely to stay another season at UCONN, but what do I know? Maybe she'll have an All-American season and skidaddle. If Stevens does declare I hope Indiana can land a top 2 pick. Are there any other juniors or redshirt juniors who will be eligible to declare early? I also don't think Atkins will fall to the third round either.


UK1996 wrote:
I'm going to do a mock draft since no one has done one for a while, assuming Stevens declares.
1. San Antonio- Aja Wilson
2. Chicago- Azure Stevens
3. Indiana- Kelsey Mitchell
4. Chicago- Gabby Williams
5. Seattle- Diamond Deshields
6. Dallas- Tierra McCowan
7. Washington- Mercededes Russell
8. Phoenix- Monique Billings
9. Connecticut- Jordan Canada
10. New York- Jamie Nared
11. Los Angeles- Lexie Brown
12. Minnesota- Kia Nurse*

13. San Antonio- Rebecca Greenwell
14. Indiana- Stephanie Mavunga
15. Connecticut- Maria Vadeeva
16. Chicago- Victoria Vivians
17. Seattle- Ariel Atkins
18. Dallas- Begos Faz Devalos
19. Washington- Shakayla Thomas
20. Phoenix- Tyler Scaife
22. New York- Khalia Hillsman
23. Los Angeles- Linnae Harper
24 Minnesota- Mikayla Cowling

25. San Antonio- Brook McCarty
26. Indiana- Kaylee Johnson
27. Atlanta- Morgan William
28. Chicago- Katelyn Flahrety
29. Seattle- Emily Potter
30. Dallas- Lili Thompson*
31. Washington- Marie Gulich
32. Phoenix- Camille Zimmerman
33. Connecticut- Tyra Buss
34. New York- Brittany McPhee
35. Los Angeles- Lexie Bando
36. Minnesota- Carlie Wagner



* I think Thompson's stock could certainly rise depending on her season at ND. But I guess the same could be said for all the ladies above.

*Wouldnt be surprised to see Nurse go higher either. She's a UCONN player with all the tools. I expect her game to translate well at the next level. I think she be a role/glue player at minimum.



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I'll be surprised if Azure Stevens enters the Draft.

I don't think Geno and his coaches would invest time and training in her for 1 year of play. Besides, she's going to need the two years of playing, training and experience to learn everything she'll need at the next level to be WNBA ready.

Stewart, Charles, Maya, and DT needed the full four years, I'd expect the same equivalent for Azure.



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RavenDog wrote:
I'll be surprised if Azure Stevens enters the Draft.

I don't think Geno and his coaches would invest time and training in her for 1 year of play. Besides, she's going to need the two years of playing, training and experience to learn everything she'll need at the next level to be WNBA ready.

Stewart, Charles, Maya, and DT needed the full four years, I'd expect the same equivalent for Azure.


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I think it's foolish to assume she declares early. Looking forward, assuming nobody declares early and Jessica Shepard gets to play this year, 2019 is absolutely LOADED with quality post players. Kristine Anigwe, Kalani Brown, Napheesa Collier, Teaira McCowan, Jessica Shepard, Azura Stevens, Brianna Turner. Throw in Samuelson, Durr, Ogunbowale, Cunningham and maybe Stephanie Watts to round out the first round and I think you have an even stronger group than in 2018.


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I'm gonna take a stab at what you've already started UK. I think Scaife may be a little high, but Minn does need a back up. I'm gonna add McCowen also, as I think she's more likely to declare early. I think Stevens is likely to stay another season at UCONN, but what do I know? Maybe she'll have an All-American season and skidaddle. If Stevens does declare I hope Indiana can land a top 2 pick. Are there any other juniors or redshirt juniors who will be eligible to declare early? I also don't think Atkins will fall to the third round either.


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I'm going to do a mock draft since no one has done one for a while, assuming Stevens declares.
1. San Antonio- Aja Wilson
2. Chicago- Azure Stevens
3. Indiana- Kelsey Mitchell
4. Chicago- Gabby Williams
5. Seattle- Diamond Deshields
6. Dallas- Tierra McCowan
7. Washington- Mercededes Russell
8. Phoenix- Monique Billings
9. Connecticut- Jordan Canada
10. New York- Jamie Nared
11. Los Angeles- Lexie Brown
12. Minnesota- Kia Nurse*

13. San Antonio- Rebecca Greenwell
14. Indiana- Stephanie Mavunga
15. Connecticut- Maria Vadeeva
16. Chicago- Victoria Vivians
17. Seattle- Ariel Atkins
18. Dallas- Begos Faz Devalos
19. Washington- Shakayla Thomas
20. Phoenix- Tyler Scaife
22. New York- Khalia Hillsman
23. Los Angeles- Linnae Harper
24 Minnesota- Mikayla Cowling

25. San Antonio- Brook McCarty
26. Indiana- Kaylee Johnson
27. Atlanta- Morgan William
28. Chicago- Katelyn Flahrety
29. Seattle- Emily Potter
30. Dallas- Lili Thompson*
31. Washington- Marie Gulich
32. Phoenix- Camille Zimmerman
33. Connecticut- Tyra Buss
34. New York- Brittany McPhee
35. Los Angeles- Lexie Bando
36. Minnesota- Carlie Wagner



* I think Thompson's stock could certainly rise depending on her season at ND. But I guess the same could be said for all the ladies above.

*Wouldnt be surprised to see Nurse go higher either. She's a UCONN player with all the tools. I expect her game to translate well at the next level. I think she be a role/glue player at minimum.

I personally think Nurse will become a glue type player. The type of player who handles a lot of dirty work.



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If you stand on the side of the players, I don't really know why any of them would stay in college when they could be paid. Yeah, yeah,I have heard the arguments about getting the edu, but those who are already age qualified, hold backs or transfers, can finish up on top of getting paid if they have to. The body has a limit to how much it can take.


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Nm


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There’s a chance Stevens won’t even be a starter the full season at Uconn


Yeah, adjustments will have to be made based on performances during the college season. Plum was not a #1 pick before her senior season.

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
also Davis and Gray didn’t go top 2 in the draft.


So? They're All Rookie and Gray even won ROY.

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
Jones and Stevens are not the same player, I would liken Jones to Karl Anthony Towns, and Stevens to Kevin Durant


You're saying Stevens is the real MVP? It's difficult to think who'd be more similar in the W.

#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
if Stevens is asked to play inside for Uconn it will only limit her game, and if I’m not mistaken she’s never really played at the 5 in college.


If Gabby has to play inside again it's going to be even more limiting to her game.



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I'll be surprised if Azure Stevens enters the Draft.

I don't think Geno and his coaches would invest time and training in her for 1 year of play. Besides, she's going to need the two years of playing, training and experience to learn everything she'll need at the next level to be WNBA ready.

Stewart, Charles, Maya, and DT needed the full four years, I'd expect the same equivalent for Azure.


Azura' has had one year to un-learn the stupidity of JPM and get with the Geno program. If she has even half the year she had as a sophomore, I expect she'll think she's ready for the WNBA. Lord knows, she won't have a hard time getting a UConn degree, unless it's so easy she doesn't bother to do the work. (don't bash me - blame it on Brittany - the first Duke to UConn transfer. I could be misremembering but I think "dumb as doornails" was in there somewhere).



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RavenDog wrote:
I'll be surprised if Azure Stevens enters the Draft.

I don't think Geno and his coaches would invest time and training in her for 1 year of play. Besides, she's going to need the two years of playing, training and experience to learn everything she'll need at the next level to be WNBA ready.

Stewart, Charles, Maya, and DT needed the full four years, I'd expect the same equivalent for Azure.


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I think it's foolish to assume she declares early. Looking forward, assuming nobody declares early and Jessica Shepard gets to play this year, 2019 is absolutely LOADED with quality post players. Kristine Anigwe, Kalani Brown, Napheesa Collier, Teaira McCowan, Jessica Shepard, Azura Stevens, Brianna Turner. Throw in Samuelson, Durr, Ogunbowale, Cunningham and maybe Stephanie Watts to round out the first round and I think you have an even stronger group than in 2018.


You forget possibly the best pro ready player of them all. Tynice Martin will be a star in the WNBA ! #DontSleepOnHer



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This author does an early breakdown of UConn

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-womens-basketball/hc-sp-uconn-women-basketball-insider-20171002-story.html

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The first fall practice is Oct. 12 and UConn returns its core: Katie Lou Samuelson, Kia Nurse, Gabby Williams, Napheesa Collier. No team in the country can match the top of the UConn roster.


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After serving as a valuable bench player for two seasons, Williams (14.3 points, 8.4 rebounds, 190 assists) was perhaps the country’s most complete player last season. At 5-11, she played the post — her defense on bigger players was consistently good and she proved to be a rare defender capable of guarding players anywhere on the court.

Williams (100 steals, 52 blocks) filled the stat sheet, night after night. And her confidence grew throughout the season, setting up the potential for a monster senior season.


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Nurse returned last season as the team’s most seasoned player, a starter on two national title teams and a player coming off an appearance in the Rio Olympics as a member of Team Canada. She inherited a leadership role and was seen as vital to the team’s success.


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By the postseason, Nurse was shooting three-pointers as well as anyone in the country. Her defense was solid all season and she was perhaps UConn’s best player in the NCAA Tournament, scoring 29 points while matching an NCAA single-game tournament record with nine three-pointers against Syracuse.


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“I don’t know how many 6-6 girls can be the one you set the ball screen for instead of them setting the ball screen,” Auriemma said over the summer. “That’s unusual, but Azura is unusual. We’ll find different ways to have fun with her this coming year.”

UConn had three of the best players in the country last season, yet there’s an expectation that Stevens will be among the elite in 2017-18.


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Stevens, who has two years of eligibility remaining, figures to move into the starting lineup. With starting guard Chong gone to the WNBA, Stevens can slide into the lineup and Samuelson or Williams can move into the backcourt.

Not that positions matter. Think of Celtics coach Brad Stevens advocating for versatile players or “positionless” lineups. UConn’s starting lineup is a mix of multi-skilled players — all five starters can handle the ball and break a press while “long” players such as Stevens (6-6) and Samuelson (6-3) are three-point threats and Williams (5-11) operates best in the paint. Nurse is a traditional guard, both offensively and defensively, and Collier is more of a traditional forward.


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But with Stevens, Samuelson, Collier, Williams and Nurse on the court together, it’s hard to imagine how opponents will defend such an impossible mix of matchups.



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Problem seems he didn't watch any of the Italy games. I previously thought Stevens would be a starter but Geno was not happy with her and benched her in Italy. I now think Dangerfield could start.


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Good choice, College Sports Madness




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2018 College Sports Madness WNBA Draft Rankings




I'll probably get snark for this, but I'm feeling the dropping of Collier if she should enter the draft early. But I don't think I'd drop her quite that far.
So she might as well stay in UConn her full term.

I don't think there's a strong demand for a 6'1 PF. She'd have to be Sophia Young, and even if she is, I'm not sure this is the era for even for Sophia Young (physically speaking, not talking politics). If you're 6'1 and you lose that youthful motor and you don't have any perimeter skills, that can add up to a shortened career.

They seem to have overlooked DeShields entering this draft, and I thought maybe they were ranking only college players, but they do list Vadeeva. Oops.



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My top 3 draft picks(Underclassmen excluded)

1.Wilson
2.Deshields
3.Mitchell


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Check out @FLYBSKTBLLs Tweet: https://twitter.com/FLYBSKTBLL/status/917390360090959874?s=09


Check out Footage Of DD playing For Kurakova. No College player can do some of this gal can do on the court. Abilities are unmatched. Can she translate has been the question and if this is any indicator teams might regret not taking diamond #1



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Check out @FLYBSKTBLLs Tweet: https://twitter.com/FLYBSKTBLL/status/917390360090959874?s=09


Check out Footage Of DD playing For Kurakova. No College player can do some of this gal can do on the court. Abilities are unmatched. Can she translate has been the question and if this is any indicator teams might regret not taking diamond #1


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The opposition in that clip looks like a high school team. But it is impressive that she actually appears to be hitting her shots. If she can make threes and midrange jumpers on a regular basis, her value goes up. If she can't shoot for shit, which is what happened a lot in college, the athleticism doesn't do much.


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Here's the risk with Diamond DeShields ...

She has the complete physical package to be a top-shelf player in the WNBA, but her USA Basketball experience and her college career lead to questions.

To me, the most concerning is USA Basketball. In her teens, DeShields was a USA Basketball darling, but now, with talent intact, she's out of the program. Depending on your point of view, that's just another sign of the arrogance of USA Basketball, or issues with DeShields' attitude and ability to work within a team structure.

The evidence pointing to the latter is her college career, which saw her bounce around and never find a home. Again, that could be a reflection of the coaches and programs she was associated with, but it also could be a reflection of an attitude that's a result of immense talent and being the daughter of a rich and talented athlete.

It could be that the professional setting will be perfect for DeShields; it also could be that she will never take full advantage of her talent.

Should be an interesting decision on draft day ...



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Why are folks predicting McGowan will come out early? Has something been published in the media? She might be a crazy good talent but think the more time to develop in Starkville, the better.


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Here's the risk with Diamond DeShields ...

She has the complete physical package to be a top-shelf player in the WNBA, but her USA Basketball experience and her college career lead to questions.

To me, the most concerning is USA Basketball. In her teens, DeShields was a USA Basketball darling, but now, with talent intact, she's out of the program. Depending on your point of view, that's just another sign of the arrogance of USA Basketball, or issues with DeShields' attitude and ability to work within a team structure.

The evidence pointing to the latter is her college career, which saw her bounce around and never find a home. Again, that could be a reflection of the coaches and programs she was associated with, but it also could be a reflection of an attitude that's a result of immense talent and being the daughter of a rich and talented athlete.

It could be that the professional setting will be perfect for DeShields; it also could be that she will never take full advantage of her talent.

Should be an interesting decision on draft day ...


She's a risk for sure. Who do you think would take her? I fee Kelsey Mitchell or even Gabby Williams might be a safer bet.

She looks like the tallest player on the floor in that highlight clip. Is it a second tier pro team?


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ClayK wrote:
Here's the risk with Diamond DeShields ...

She has the complete physical package to be a top-shelf player in the WNBA, but her USA Basketball experience and her college career lead to questions.

To me, the most concerning is USA Basketball. In her teens, DeShields was a USA Basketball darling, but now, with talent intact, she's out of the program. Depending on your point of view, that's just another sign of the arrogance of USA Basketball, or issues with DeShields' attitude and ability to work within a team structure.

The evidence pointing to the latter is her college career, which saw her bounce around and never find a home. Again, that could be a reflection of the coaches and programs she was associated with, but it also could be a reflection of an attitude that's a result of immense talent and being the daughter of a rich and talented athlete.

It could be that the professional setting will be perfect for DeShields; it also could be that she will never take full advantage of her talent.

Should be an interesting decision on draft day ...


She's a risk for sure. Who do you think would take her? I fee Kelsey Mitchell or even Gabby Williams might be a safer bet.

She looks like the tallest player on the floor in that highlight clip. Is it a second tier pro team?


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