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PostPosted: 03/06/18 9:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sometimes I feel overanalysis comes into play here.

Trust me, the coaches have been watching for the better part of at least the last season or two, and a slump here or there isn't going to have much impact.


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[quote="dtsnms"]Sometimes I feel overanalysis comes into play here.

Trust me, the coaches have been watching for the better part of at least the last season or two, and a slump here or there isn't going to have much impact.[/quote

Exactly


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PostPosted: 03/06/18 1:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Sometimes I feel overanalysis comes into play here.

Trust me, the coaches have been watching for the better part of at least the last season or two, and a slump here or there isn't going to have much impact.


They've gotten better about that. Time was we'd see players suddenly become first rounders based on a couple of tournament games. That hasn't happened recently.



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PostPosted: 03/06/18 7:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Gabby still has a pretty high ceiling, she can damn near play and defend every position on the court at the college level. Indy will probably take Mitchell and they should, but a Williams/Wheeler back court could also work out well for the fever.
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PostPosted: 03/06/18 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Correct first round?

1. Las Vegas Aces
2. Indiana Fever
3. Chicago Sky
4. Chicago Sky
5. Seattle Storm
6. Dallas Wings
7. Washington Mystics
8. Indiana Fever
9. Connecticut Sun
10. New York Liberty
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Gabby Williams' hip is a bit of a question mark for me. I have no idea what the chronic condition is but if rest alone would have helped it they should have been able to carve out some time for that. Will the month between tournament and training camp be enough to get it 100%? I watched Sue Bird play 2 straight seasons with torn labrums and know that it is possible to gut it out and even manage it indefinitely. But, she had surgery as soon as the season was done. I assume team GMs have a clear idea of what the issue is but I am not anointing her a lottery pick without a bit more information.


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PostPosted: 03/06/18 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Correct first round?

1. Las Vegas Aces
2. Indiana Fever
3. Chicago Sky
4. Chicago Sky
5. Seattle Storm
6. Dallas Wings
7. Washington Mystics
8. Indiana Fever
9. Connecticut Sun
10. New York Liberty
11. Los Angeles Sparks
12. Phoenix Mercury


Think so.


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PostPosted: 03/06/18 8:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nerd2 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Correct first round?

1. Las Vegas Aces
2. Indiana Fever
3. Chicago Sky
4. Chicago Sky
5. Seattle Storm
6. Dallas Wings
7. Washington Mystics
8. Indiana Fever
9. Connecticut Sun
10. New York Liberty
11. Los Angeles Sparks
12. Phoenix Mercury


Think so.


Are you hinting at more draft related trades

For some reason I keep thinking Langhorne to Washington for #7 (vets for picks seems to be a trend) I'm also feeling Harrison to Chicago for #4 but this is all just pure speculation.


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Gabby Williams' hip is a bit of a question mark for me. I have no idea what the chronic condition is but if rest alone would have helped it they should have been able to carve out some time for that. Will the month between tournament and training camp be enough to get it 100%? I watched Sue Bird play 2 straight seasons with torn labrums and know that it is possible to gut it out and even manage it indefinitely. But, she had surgery as soon as the season was done. I assume team GMs have a clear idea of what the issue is but I am not anointing her a lottery pick without a bit more information.

I reckon there's still every chance that she goes in one of those two picks to Chicago. I'm sure they'd love to take a 4, but it just doesn't seem like there's a true 4 worth taking - and you're much better off taking the best player than forcing an Akhator-style pick. It's not like the Sky have that much on the wing to block, say, DeShields and Williams from both finding minutes. It's basically Quigley, who turns 32 this season, and Copper, who's still a work-in-progress herself.

After the shambles of last year's draft I doubt Stocks risks something like Vadeeva that high (and Vadeeva/Dolson would be a nightmarish frontcourt to make work anyway). So I'm not sure where else she'd go. I know the numbers are much-improved, but I wasn't hugely impressed by Vivians this week; they don't need Brown or Canada with Sloot/Faulkner already on board; and it seems high for Nurse. Who else?



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PostPosted: 03/06/18 9:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Gabby Williams' hip is a bit of a question mark for me. I have no idea what the chronic condition is but if rest alone would have helped it they should have been able to carve out some time for that. Will the month between tournament and training camp be enough to get it 100%? I watched Sue Bird play 2 straight seasons with torn labrums and know that it is possible to gut it out and even manage it indefinitely. But, she had surgery as soon as the season was done. I assume team GMs have a clear idea of what the issue is but I am not anointing her a lottery pick without a bit more information.

I reckon there's still every chance that she goes in one of those two picks to Chicago. I'm sure they'd love to take a 4, but it just doesn't seem like there's a true 4 worth taking - and you're much better off taking the best player than forcing an Akhator-style pick. It's not like the Sky have that much on the wing to block, say, DeShields and Williams from both finding minutes. It's basically Quigley, who turns 32 this season, and Copper, who's still a work-in-progress herself.

After the shambles of last year's draft I doubt Stocks risks something like Vadeeva that high (and Vadeeva/Dolson would be a nightmarish frontcourt to make work anyway). So I'm not sure where else she'd go. I know the numbers are much-improved, but I wasn't hugely impressed by Vivians this week; they don't need Brown or Canada with Sloot/Faulkner already on board; and it seems high for Nurse. Who else?

I believe the choice is clear. The Sky will draft two from the group of wing players: DeShields, Vivians, and Williams. Which two players? We will have to wait for draft day. Very Happy



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PostPosted: 03/06/18 10:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

By the time you get to the second round I think Gulich has real value. She stepped forward this year, but I believe she still has room for further improvement. Bigs often continue to develop their games I see her as a backup in years 1-2, but could develop into a starter by year 3. She has the size and a decent mid-range shot but needs to improve her interior offensive mobility. It may be too early at 13, but if Laimbeer could work some kind of trade I think he could be a great coach for her.


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PostPosted: 03/07/18 2:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Correct first round?

1. Las Vegas Aces
2. Indiana Fever
3. Chicago Sky
4. Chicago Sky
5. Seattle Storm
6. Dallas Wings
7. Washington Mystics
8. Indiana Fever
9. Connecticut Sun
10. New York Liberty
11. Los Angeles Sparks
12. Phoenix Mercury


Think so.


Are you hinting at more draft related trades

For some reason I keep thinking Langhorne to Washington for #7 (vets for picks seems to be a trend) I'm also feeling Harrison to Chicago for #4 but this is all just pure speculation.


Nope, I heard of a couple of unexciting free agent signing possibilities but who knows if they are true. Haven't heard a peep of trades. Langhorne was listed on the transactions page as being re-signed by the Storm which frankly frustrates me.


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PostPosted: 03/07/18 9:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Gabby Williams' hip is a bit of a question mark for me. I have no idea what the chronic condition is but if rest alone would have helped it they should have been able to carve out some time for that. Will the month between tournament and training camp be enough to get it 100%? I watched Sue Bird play 2 straight seasons with torn labrums and know that it is possible to gut it out and even manage it indefinitely. But, she had surgery as soon as the season was done. I assume team GMs have a clear idea of what the issue is but I am not anointing her a lottery pick without a bit more information.

I reckon there's still every chance that she goes in one of those two picks to Chicago. I'm sure they'd love to take a 4, but it just doesn't seem like there's a true 4 worth taking - and you're much better off taking the best player than forcing an Akhator-style pick. It's not like the Sky have that much on the wing to block, say, DeShields and Williams from both finding minutes. It's basically Quigley, who turns 32 this season, and Copper, who's still a work-in-progress herself.

After the shambles of last year's draft I doubt Stocks risks something like Vadeeva that high (and Vadeeva/Dolson would be a nightmarish frontcourt to make work anyway). So I'm not sure where else she'd go. I know the numbers are much-improved, but I wasn't hugely impressed by Vivians this week; they don't need Brown or Canada with Sloot/Faulkner already on board; and it seems high for Nurse. Who else?


Chicago has shown a willingness to wait for injured players too (Coates, for example), so if they like Williams, I wouldn't be surprised to take her even at the risk of her needing surgery and missing time.


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PostPosted: 03/07/18 1:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
Gabby Williams' hip is a bit of a question mark for me. I have no idea what the chronic condition is but if rest alone would have helped it they should have been able to carve out some time for that. Will the month between tournament and training camp be enough to get it 100%? I watched Sue Bird play 2 straight seasons with torn labrums and know that it is possible to gut it out and even manage it indefinitely. But, she had surgery as soon as the season was done. I assume team GMs have a clear idea of what the issue is but I am not anointing her a lottery pick without a bit more information.

I reckon there's still every chance that she goes in one of those two picks to Chicago. I'm sure they'd love to take a 4, but it just doesn't seem like there's a true 4 worth taking - and you're much better off taking the best player than forcing an Akhator-style pick. It's not like the Sky have that much on the wing to block, say, DeShields and Williams from both finding minutes. It's basically Quigley, who turns 32 this season, and Copper, who's still a work-in-progress herself.

After the shambles of last year's draft I doubt Stocks risks something like Vadeeva that high (and Vadeeva/Dolson would be a nightmarish frontcourt to make work anyway). So I'm not sure where else she'd go. I know the numbers are much-improved, but I wasn't hugely impressed by Vivians this week; they don't need Brown or Canada with Sloot/Faulkner already on board; and it seems high for Nurse. Who else?


Chicago has shown a willingness to wait for injured players too (Coates, for example), so if they like Williams, I wouldn't be surprised to take her even at the risk of her needing surgery and missing time.


I wouldn't mind if Gabby and her injured hip falls to us. We could use another defensive stopper to replace Alana, who may be departing after this season. Of course, Brian may feel differently. Cool



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Spooner in particular gets strongly persuaded by these articles, so I should preface this by saying this author always hypes European players for the WNBA. So keep that in mind.

Why Maria ‘The Terminator’ Vadeeva should be 2018 WNBA Draft first pick, but probably won’t

http://www.fiba.basketball/news/why-maria-the-terminator-vadeeva-should-be-2018-wnba-draft-first-pick-but-probably-wont

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Russia ace Maria Vadeeva is the best player in the world of her generation and here is both why she should, but probably won't, be the first pick.


I’d definitely take Cambage over her. Surprised

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She does not have the athleticism or flair of many other more exciting players, but the productivity, efficiency, unflappable nature and the way she imposes herself physically is just so exceptional.


Not as athletic? A hard work beats talent thing?

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That now famous stare at her opponents and also referees [when they don't call fouls in her favor] epitomizes her outlook. No trash talking, no over-the-top antics, it's all about stares and smiles


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I was in Chekhov to see A’Ja Wilson win gold with USA at U19 level a few years ago and have seen her up close. She is a great contender, while Diamond Deshields is quality too. But, Vadeeva is durable and a proven performer at the elite level who goes up against WNBA stars every week and produces numbers as part of a championship winning team.


I guess it’s easy to be durable playing 20mpg. 20mpw?

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Well, it would be an understandable factor if politics did come into it I suppose. Although wouldn't it really give us something to talk about if she was given the nod?


Yeah, I’m sure that’s his main motivation.

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The biggest reason that Vadeeva is unlikely to be first choice is that she may not be able and willing to commit to a WNBA career.


Well, no duh. Who wants to waste their first round pick in this draft?

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Curiously, 2018 is probably the best year for her to make that WNBA debut with Russia's seniors not playing again until the fall. Although, she might be required to land one last gold for her country at the FIBA U20 Women's European Championship in Sopron during early July. I accept that with all of this in mind, it is a risky choice to select her.


Just got a little more real.



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I believe given the chance Mike Thibault with select Victoria Vivians with the #7 pick in the 1st round of the 2018 WNBA Draft. Mike Thibault probably knows more about Victoria Vivians from Miss St. Asst Coach Carly Thibault then any WNBA GM. Lexie Brown or Gabby Williams also could be on the radar for Thibault if Vivians has been already selected before the Mystics make their choice.


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Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.



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toad455 wrote:
Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


Agreed i dont see her falling past Thibault in this draft .



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I believe given the chance Mike Thibault with select Victoria Vivians with the #7 pick in the 1st round of the 2018 WNBA Draft. Mike Thibault probably knows more about Victoria Vivians from Miss St. Asst Coach Carly Thibault then any WNBA GM. Lexie Brown or Gabby Williams also could be on the radar for Thibault if Vivians has been already selected before the Mystics make their choice.


I can see it. He's used links like that before (Eric was on the St. John's staff the year McKenith went in the second round).



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Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


He’s gotten more than his money’s worth from Meesseman, but will her taking the season off make Thibault gun-shy? Is the Russian national team rising to prominence again and therefore that may become Vadeeva’s priority?

Gotta hear from Vadeeva. The Lynx must have not have been intrigued by her enough to stay in the race.



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Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


Actually, in Connecticut they made a conscious effort NOT to take foreign players to avoid missing time due to international competitions.

Obviously for talent like Emma he's softened that policy. Wink


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dtsnms wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


Actually, in Connecticut they made a conscious effort NOT to take foreign players to avoid missing time due to international competitions.

Obviously for talent like Emma he's softened that policy. Wink


What about that time they drafted Astan Dabo, or was that part of a conscious effort to not acquire UConn players because they didn't want people to think they only acquire UConn players after they traded to get Tina Charles & Renee Montgomery? Smile


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SpaceJunkie wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


Actually, in Connecticut they made a conscious effort NOT to take foreign players to avoid missing time due to international competitions.

Obviously for talent like Emma he's softened that policy. Wink


What about that time they drafted Astan Dabo, or was that part of a conscious effort to not acquire UConn players because they didn't want people to think they only acquire UConn players after they traded to get Tina Charles & Renee Montgomery? Smile


Considering how many domestic players suddenly become foreign players it is pretty hard to avoid foreign players.



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Shades wrote:
Why Maria ‘The Terminator’ Vadeeva should be 2018 WNBA Draft first pick, but probably won’t

http://www.fiba.basketball/news/why-maria-the-terminator-vadeeva-should-be-2018-wnba-draft-first-pick-but-probably-wont


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I was in Chekhov to see A’Ja Wilson win gold with USA at U19 level a few years ago and have seen her up close. She is a great contender, while Diamond Deshields is quality too. But, Vadeeva is durable and a proven performer at the elite level who goes up against WNBA stars every week and produces numbers as part of a championship winning team.


Wlison was the MVP of the 2015 FIBA U19 World Championships. Obviously, she did well.

But if the author's analysis is premised on a comparison player's three-year old performance, that does not necessarily qualify as "sufficient" to justify picking Vadeeva over Wilson.


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CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Shades wrote:
Why Maria ‘The Terminator’ Vadeeva should be 2018 WNBA Draft first pick, but probably won’t

http://www.fiba.basketball/news/why-maria-the-terminator-vadeeva-should-be-2018-wnba-draft-first-pick-but-probably-wont


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I was in Chekhov to see A’Ja Wilson win gold with USA at U19 level a few years ago and have seen her up close. She is a great contender, while Diamond Deshields is quality too. But, Vadeeva is durable and a proven performer at the elite level who goes up against WNBA stars every week and produces numbers as part of a championship winning team.


Wlison was the MVP of the 2015 FIBA U19 World Championships. Obviously, she did well.

But if the author's analysis is premised on a comparison player's three-year old performance, that does not necessarily qualify as "sufficient" to justify picking Vadeeva over Wilson.


I responded to his tweet on that and got a couple of "WNBA just doesn't respect Euros." I responded with the list of overseas players staying home this season preparing for worlds. It's not that they are not respected. It's that a #1 pick needs to be the future face of the franchise for a decade and needs to be there every year.

The guy is also Euro-focused. He cited Ann Wauters as the last non-American to be drafted first. It was actually Lauren Jackson a year later.


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SpaceJunkie wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


Actually, in Connecticut they made a conscious effort NOT to take foreign players to avoid missing time due to international competitions.


What about that time they drafted Astan Dabo


Somebody must have fallen asleep during that draft, or maybe it’s just more fake news. I’d be surprised if another organization has drafted more foreign players... maybe Agler is close. And then there’s all those foreign free agents he signs. Toad was right. He certainly doesn’t avoid foreign players.

2012 Draft
1st Round (9th pick overall): Astan Dabo

2010 Draft
3rd Round (27th pick overall): Johannah Leedham

2009 Draft
3rd Round (36th pick overall): Alba Torrens

2007 Draft
1st Round (13th pick overall): Sandrine Gruda

2006 Draft
3rd Round (42nd pick overall): Marita Payne

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SpaceJunkie wrote:
dtsnms wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Thibault loves his foreigners, so I'm seeing her land there, but not showing up until 2019.


Actually, in Connecticut they made a conscious effort NOT to take foreign players to avoid missing time due to international competitions.

Obviously for talent like Emma he's softened that policy. Wink


What about that time they drafted Astan Dabo, or was that part of a conscious effort to not acquire UConn players because they didn't want people to think they only acquire UConn players after they traded to get Tina Charles & Renee Montgomery? Smile


Wasn't that the year Thibault was saying he loved his team the way it was and couldn't see how they could add to it? 2012 was a really shallow draft and at the time I thought they were just securing a player who might come in future years.


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Wasn't that the year Thibault was saying he loved his team the way it was and couldn't see how they could add to it? 2012 was a really shallow draft and at the time I thought they were just securing a player who might come in future years.

Yes. I admit I don't remember it word for word, but he basically said Tiffany Hayes would struggle to make their roster. Oops.



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If a close source to Vadeeva or Vadeeva herself says she wants to play in the WNBA then I would rank her higher than I have her now, but, and it is a big but, if Russia can get back to being an Olympic/Worlds level team I would think the Russian team would give Vadeeva some very good incentives to stay away from the W, avoid injury, and stay committed to the National team, I could also see her Russian league team offering similar incentives considering they offered those kind of bonuses to non-Russian. Now if the National team or league team believe the W could add to her development then things might be different.


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Subject to Change in a heartbeat

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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?


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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?


Lewis is also playing overseas, having a nice season in Poland



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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?

Akhator's pretty tiny; she's really not a 5 even if she starts getting onto the floor. With Paris gone and Plaisance hurt as well I'd think Glory Johnson sliding over is Cambage's backup at the minute. Given that, and Liz's unreliability, a center would make a fair bit of sense if there's one worth taking at their pick.



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pilight wrote:
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RavenDog wrote:
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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?


Lewis is also playing overseas, having a nice season in Poland


Russell should push either Akhator or Lewis out of a job , most likely Lewis. She was not very useful last season . Akhator probably sticks one more year to give people time to forget about Fred's horrible decision Embarassed



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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?

Akhator's pretty tiny; she's really not a 5 even if she starts getting onto the floor. With Paris gone and Plaisance hurt as well I'd think Glory Johnson sliding over is Cambage's backup at the minute. Given that, and Liz's unreliability, a center would make a fair bit of sense if there's one worth taking at their pick.


Fair enough. They are pretty set at the 2 and 3 and that's probably the best available at 6. Cambage improves them to a top 6 team IMO but she seems to only be able to do about 25 minutes a game right now.


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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?


Lewis is also playing overseas, having a nice season in Poland


Russell should push either Akhator or Lewis out of a job , most likely Lewis. She was not very useful last season . Akhator probably sticks one more year to give people time to forget about Fred's horrible decision Embarassed


I honestly don't blame him too much. He needed a center and there were no good options. Coates wasn't going to play and Jones was even worse than Akhator. He managed to fill needs with Gray, Davis, and Chong. I wonder if he uses 6 to upgrade that backup PG.


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Shaqator is not a center in the WNBA. She may have played the position in college, but it might be generous to say she is 6’. I kinda think Bibb and Miller didn’t properly vet her and got fooled like others here by her listed height. She’s got nice hops, but I think she may be too short to even play PF in the WNBA. So unless she has some perimeter or guard skills, Shaqator may get about as much playing time on this team as she did last year. Thornton is a more experienced version of Shaqator who has already proven perimeter skills, so where does Shaq fit in?

Dallas fans, who would you rather have as your backup center?




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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?


Lewis is also playing overseas, having a nice season in Poland


Russell should push either Akhator or Lewis out of a job , most likely Lewis. She was not very useful last season . Akhator probably sticks one more year to give people time to forget about Fred's horrible decision Embarassed


Lewis was definitely bad for Dallas last year, but I can't shake the feeling that she has potential



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Russell should push either Akhator or Lewis out of a job , most likely Lewis. She was not very useful last season . Akhator probably sticks one more year to give people time to forget about Fred's horrible decision Embarassed


Only a basement dweller who doesn't know basketball like the WNBA GMs do would think that drafting one of the Top 3 players in a WNBA Draft with the 3rd overall pick was a horrible decision. Very Happy


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She's a legit 6'3", or at least exaggerated no more than her teammates. From left to right: Gray (6'0"), Akhator (6'3"), Lewis (6'5"), Davis (6'2"), Chong (5'8").

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She's at least 6-3 on a relative scale. I think it is too soon to write her off. Plus - how many teams did better than Dallas in the draft last year? One one - Atlanta. Ok ARGUABLY only 1.



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pilight wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
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The only question I have is about Dallas taking another center. I recognize that Akhator and Lewis didn't show much last year but Akhator is at least playing overseas and for her NT. If they penciled her in as their backup center, would you see them taking someone else?


Lewis is also playing overseas, having a nice season in Poland


Russell should push either Akhator or Lewis out of a job , most likely Lewis. She was not very useful last season . Akhator probably sticks one more year to give people time to forget about Fred's horrible decision Embarassed


Lewis was definitely bad for Dallas last year, but I can't shake the feeling that she has potential


I agree pilight , but only on the defensive end. She showed flashes VERY early in the season but against top tier Paint players she was hard to watch. Her footwork is just not where it should be for a professional player in this league .



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Feels like russell is just ready for this to be over , well her play in the SEC tourney made me believe that .



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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center?



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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center?


I am not sure that is Indiana's biggest need, tbh. They have Larkins and Achonwa already, I think they need Kelsey Mitchell's scoring more. I don't think Chicago would need her either.


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About Vadeeva: I got in a discussion with Paul Nilsen about whether she should be drafted overall #1. His opinion was yes, she's already going up against top competition and proven herself better than Wilson. My opinion was no because while she has the pro experience going for her, the knowledge that she could be pulled away every year for something national team-related is a BIG problem. A #1 pick especially is expected to represent the team even more than during the season and is expected to be counted on to be there every year.

I also didn't believe that she had proven herself so much better than Wilson at this moment to justify taking her. 1st round, sure. Endless potential, absolutely. But is she worth putting ahead of Wilson this year when you have a new team and want to make an immediate splash?


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What are Vadeeva's numbers like? When ever I read the over-seas thread she seems to have decent numbers, but not draft at #1 unbelievable numbers.

Granted she plays next to N. Ogwumike but that cuts both ways.


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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center?


I was worried about Spooner becoming obsessed with Vadeeva. Turns out toad is the most obsessed.

Pokey wanted that #8 pick for a reason. Mitchell or DeShields are unlikely to be around at #8. Vadeeva could be around at #8. If she’s not, no big deal. Grab another nice player.



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If Vadeeva says she's playing this season, so that lock her into #2? Would Chicago pass on her with Dolson, Coates & Parker already at center?


I was worried about Spooner becoming obsessed with Vadeeva. Turns out toad is the most obsessed.

Pokey wanted that #8 pick for a reason. Mitchell or DeShields are unlikely to be around at #8. Vadeeva could be around at #8. If she’s not, no big deal. Grab another nice player.


Actually, I think it's the other way around. Phoenix wanted January and Pokey got the pick as a result. Indiana pretty much needs everything.


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