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I think Gabby could eventually be a PG in the league.

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Because of ? Her ability to pass ?



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Well Wilson will be one post player Williams will be able to guard in the pro’s.
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The Summitt’s 2018 WNBA Mock Draft Big Board v. 1.0

https://summitthoops.com/2018/01/31/2018-wnba-mock-draft-big-board/2/


Weird choices aside, it is nice to see someone do a three round mock.


I didn’t even notice he did three rounds. Anybody can throw darts at a board. Hines-Allen, Goodwin, and Muldrow should all get 2nd round consideration. He’s got them all mid-round, so no early declarations wouldn’t even move them up a round.

No conceivable way Confroy gets drafted at #36 instead of Minnesota’s own. Not very intuitive, Megdal.

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Only one international player drafted would be even more shocking than the time that Zandalasini went undrafted, although that ended up being useful for checking on whether some people understood the rules or not.


It’s a deep college draft, so I wouldn’t be shocked if only two were drafted. Maybe three.

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It's also interesting to see someone do a mock assuming all early entry eligible players declare.


All? Just the lottery level players. There’s Collier, Cunningham (would love her at #12), Shepard (McCarville-like, but meh), and that Aussie PG at Syracuse. Future Big Ten player of the year Gustafson might be eligible, but not sure. She’d be another eye-opener.


That makes me wonder why those early entry players were chosen then.

The pretty solid return on third round picks last year will probably have GMs thinking that those picks have more value than usual. It's interesting that a deeper college draft happens in one of the deeper international draft too. There are at least four players who are better prospects than any international players in last year's draft.
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Gabby was the player of the game against South Carolina tonight




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WNBA 09 wrote:
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root_thing wrote:
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I can't see Connecticut passing up Nurse for Atkins for any reason at all. I also think that NY would take Russell if she's there at #10.

I'm surprised at the love for Kaylee Jensen. She does have legit outside shooting ability for a big player, but she's out of shape and not nearly as competitive as a Courtney Paris or Danielle Adams.


I don’t think Connecticut has a real need for Nurse. Atkins either, really.


True, but I was just commenting because they're projected to be taken back to back. I understand some people like Atkins enough to put her in the first round, but I don't see any facet of her game that is better than Nurse other than pure speed. And given that Nurse played at UConn, it's an even stranger prediction.


I don't see Nurse getting by Conn either.

1. Miller likes 3 pt shooting
2. Versatility, Nurse can play some 3 and some 1 besides her actual position at the 2
3. I'm not sure how committed the Sun are to Bentley or Banham
4. UCONN, UCONN, UCONN


Maybe, but I’m not sure I would consider Nurse an upgrade over Bentley...


At All...Maybe over Banham Though.


So, you guys don't think Nurse is capable of shooting a lofty 38% FG and 27.8% 3Pt like Bentley? You like having a 5-7 player defending at SG better than one who is 6-0?


Last year was definetely an off year, but it’s not like she isn’t capable of shooting 44% from the field and 34% from 3 like she has before. Still, are you saying Nurse is for sure a better player than Bentley or will turn into one? I’m not as sure.


Not sure how you can even compare a college player to a WNBA player that has proven her abilities . Kia Nurse is making strides in the college game , let wait a bit before we start saying shes better than a professional.


Agreed. Nurse very well could turn out to be a better player, but we don’t know that yet. And I like Nurse, but I can’t go as far as to say that she’ll
Be an upgrade over someone like Bentley. Off yeah or not.


Not saying that Nurse is definitely better than Bentley. Just saying that the bar isn't set very high. Bentley has had two bad shooting years in a row -- not only one. And she's still only 5-7 being used mostly as a 2-guard. Besides, this whole conversation is off track. It started with my observation that the "Pro" mock draft had Atkins going to Connecticut before Nurse. My point had nothing to do with Bentley, nor did it have anything to do with whether or not CT needs Nurse or should draft her. It was just my opinion that I don't think the Sun would ever take Atkins before Nurse.



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TotalCardinalMove wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
root_thing wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
root_thing wrote:
TotalCardinalMove wrote:
root_thing wrote:
I can't see Connecticut passing up Nurse for Atkins for any reason at all. I also think that NY would take Russell if she's there at #10.

I'm surprised at the love for Kaylee Jensen. She does have legit outside shooting ability for a big player, but she's out of shape and not nearly as competitive as a Courtney Paris or Danielle Adams.


I don’t think Connecticut has a real need for Nurse. Atkins either, really.


True, but I was just commenting because they're projected to be taken back to back. I understand some people like Atkins enough to put her in the first round, but I don't see any facet of her game that is better than Nurse other than pure speed. And given that Nurse played at UConn, it's an even stranger prediction.


I don't see Nurse getting by Conn either.

1. Miller likes 3 pt shooting
2. Versatility, Nurse can play some 3 and some 1 besides her actual position at the 2
3. I'm not sure how committed the Sun are to Bentley or Banham
4. UCONN, UCONN, UCONN


Maybe, but I’m not sure I would consider Nurse an upgrade over Bentley...


At All...Maybe over Banham Though.


So, you guys don't think Nurse is capable of shooting a lofty 38% FG and 27.8% 3Pt like Bentley? You like having a 5-7 player defending at SG better than one who is 6-0?


Last year was definetely an off year, but it’s not like she isn’t capable of shooting 44% from the field and 34% from 3 like she has before. Still, are you saying Nurse is for sure a better player than Bentley or will turn into one? I’m not as sure.


Not sure how you can even compare a college player to a WNBA player that has proven her abilities . Kia Nurse is making strides in the college game , let wait a bit before we start saying shes better than a professional.


Agreed. Nurse very well could turn out to be a better player, but we don’t know that yet. And I like Nurse, but I can’t go as far as to say that she’ll
Be an upgrade over someone like Bentley. Off yeah or not.


Once C. Williams took Bentley's spot in the starting line up I got the feeling that her time in Conn might be slowly coming to an end. I'm not saying Nurse is a better player, but Nurse might be the better fit. Conn might prefer a shooter and defender over a more ball dominant type of player, but there is room for both. TBH I think Nurse threatens Banham more than Bentley, Bentley can slide behind J. Thomas at the 1 with Nurse coming in at the 2 spot, in fact bring them in together, Bentley and Nurse would make a pretty complimentary 2nd unit back-court.


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Gabby was the player of the game against South Carolina tonight



Against very underwhelming opponent in south carolina. She did play well i will say , but i dont think this will change her draft status much. I pray for the team that makes her their point guard !



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Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond



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Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


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WNBA 09 wrote:
Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


Or maybe He's doing something alot of people in america aren't doing in which is paying attention to DD's play overseas.



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Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


Which highly esteemed and credible Facebook page did you see this on?


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LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


Or maybe He's doing something alot of people in america aren't doing in which is paying attention to DD's play overseas.


he could be, i like Diamond's game. i love her speed in the open court she's deadly in transition.


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LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


Or maybe He's doing something alot of people in america aren't doing in which is paying attention to DD's play overseas.


he could be, i like Diamond's game. i love her speed in the open court she's deadly in transition.


He seems to be emphasizing defense in his acquisitions. Therefore Gabby makes more sense.



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I see now that Barcoff posted this rumor 3 hours ago on his page, so it could be a high degree of made up... or most likely speculation.



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Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


Or maybe He's doing something alot of people in america aren't doing in which is paying attention to DD's play overseas.


he could be, i like Diamond's game. i love her speed in the open court she's deadly in transition.


He seems to be emphasizing defense in his acquisitions. Therefore Gabby makes more sense.


i am a Gabby fan, she would fit right in with Bill's philosophy, scheme, and personality. plus...the cherry on top she would be close to home.


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I see now that Barcoff posted this rumor 3 hours ago on his page, so it could be a high degree of made up... or most likely speculation.


I dont follow barcoff , not even sure who that is except the times when your ranting about him/her.



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LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


Or maybe He's doing something alot of people in america aren't doing in which is paying attention to DD's play overseas.


he could be, i like Diamond's game. i love her speed in the open court she's deadly in transition.


He seems to be emphasizing defense in his acquisitions. Therefore Gabby makes more sense.


i am a Gabby fan, she would fit right in with Bill's philosophy, scheme, and personality. plus...the cherry on top she would be close to home.


Now this i do agree , Gabby could fit with Vegas . But , where ?



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Bill should draft Wilson.Then package one of the PG's for a player,or top 7 draft pick.You don't trade a projected #1 option who's also a strong rebounder/defender for multiple role players,especially when you don't have a legit 1 option on your team.Mcbride is a 2nd/3rd option.Wilson will be a #1 option...There's no guarantee DD will be available at #3.Indiana will have the 2nd overrall pick...Bill trading down to get Gabby doesn't make sense when LV just signed T.Young...Would Bill draft Gabby if he acquired a top 5 pick? maybe...But not at the expense of A.Wilson.




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You have to wonder if Izzy Harrison is pretty damn available at this point, though. The've just signed two players to play the 5, and assuming they don't give up the #1 they've got a shiny new young option coming in to play the 4 (presuably for at least 25-30 minutes a night). Depth is always nice in a post rotation, but that doesn't leave a lot of room for Harrison unless she convinces Bill she can play next to Wilson and starts taking minuts away from Bone/Swords.

Meanwhile, Hamby and Coffey better be working on their ability to play the 3. Or just not bother to unpack.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
I see now that Barcoff posted this rumor 3 hours ago on his page, so it could be a high degree of made up... or most likely speculation.


I dont follow barcoff , not even sure who that is except the times when your ranting about him/her.


No, but I’m sure your source follows him, and notice how your source took down the story?

I don’t rant about Barcoff. He’s alright if you don’t take him too seriously, and he sure helps keep things interesting. I like anybody who is passionate about the WNBA and doesn’t feel the need to butt heads with me. I only “ranted” about somebody who tryed to steal his page url in an attempt to run him out of business... and failing miserably. Razz



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Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
I see now that Barcoff posted this rumor 3 hours ago on his page, so it could be a high degree of made up... or most likely speculation.


I dont follow barcoff , not even sure who that is except the times when your ranting about him/her.


No, but I’m sure your source follows him, and notice how your source took down the story?

I don’t rant about Barcoff. He’s alright if you don’t take him too seriously, and he sure helps keep things interesting. I like anybody who is passionate about the WNBA and doesn’t feel the need to butt heads with me. I only “ranted” about somebody who tryed to steal his page url in an attempt to run him out of business... and failing miserably. Razz



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Only the third player in Tennessee history to record 40 career double doubles.


I can’t believe Catch isn’t one of the players listed. I know her senior year was cut short by that ACL tear, but it’s still hard to believe.


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Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
I see now that Barcoff posted this rumor 3 hours ago on his page, so it could be a high degree of made up... or most likely speculation.


I dont follow barcoff , not even sure who that is except the times when your ranting about him/her.


No, but I’m sure your source follows him, and notice how your source took down the story?

I don’t rant about Barcoff. He’s alright if you don’t take him too seriously, and he sure helps keep things interesting. I like anybody who is passionate about the WNBA and doesn’t feel the need to butt heads with me. I only “ranted” about somebody who tryed to steal his page url in an attempt to run him out of business... and failing miserably. Razz


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You have to wonder if Izzy Harrison is pretty damn available at this point, though. The've just signed two players to play the 5, and assuming they don't give up the #1 they've got a shiny new young option coming in to play the 4 (presuably for at least 25-30 minutes a night). Depth is always nice in a post rotation, but that doesn't leave a lot of room for Harrison unless she convinces Bill she can play next to Wilson and starts taking minuts away from Bone/Swords.

Meanwhile, Hamby and Coffey better be working on their ability to play the 3. Or just not bother to unpack.


Chicago desperately needs a PF(Harrison & future 1st rd pk for #4 ?)

I would also package one of the PG's & bench players for a top 7 pick,or All-star caliber player.

LV is in great position to be the team of the future.


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As good as this draft looks, the 2019 draft looks even better


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Richyyy wrote:
You have to wonder if Izzy Harrison is pretty damn available at this point, though. The've just signed two players to play the 5, and assuming they don't give up the #1 they've got a shiny new young option coming in to play the 4 (presuably for at least 25-30 minutes a night). Depth is always nice in a post rotation, but that doesn't leave a lot of room for Harrison unless she convinces Bill she can play next to Wilson and starts taking minuts away from Bone/Swords.

Meanwhile, Hamby and Coffey better be working on their ability to play the 3. Or just not bother to unpack.


Chicago desperately needs a PF(Harrison & future 1st rd pk for #4 ?)

I would also package one of the PG's & bench players for a top 7 pick,or All-star caliber player.

LV is in great position to be the team of the future.


No one is going to give a top 7 pick for Kelsey Plum and one of their bench players. She has little to no value, and there’s nothing that appealing on the bench. Trading for good players (that could turn into great ones) is never a bad idea, especially when you still have a whole bunch of riff-raff on your bench.

“There’s no guarantee Diamond will be there”. Is that really a bad thing? Landing Kelsey Mitchell and a quality wing would be a grand slam imo. You get a star in Mitchell. Then maybe you can squeeze a pick at the bottom of the first round from Plum and maybe another player, which is more realistic than expecting a pick in the first half of the draft. Players like Vivians, Nurse, Billings, etc would be there.


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TotalCardinalMove wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Richyyy wrote:
You have to wonder if Izzy Harrison is pretty damn available at this point, though. The've just signed two players to play the 5, and assuming they don't give up the #1 they've got a shiny new young option coming in to play the 4 (presuably for at least 25-30 minutes a night). Depth is always nice in a post rotation, but that doesn't leave a lot of room for Harrison unless she convinces Bill she can play next to Wilson and starts taking minuts away from Bone/Swords.

Meanwhile, Hamby and Coffey better be working on their ability to play the 3. Or just not bother to unpack.


Chicago desperately needs a PF(Harrison & future 1st rd pk for #4 ?)

I would also package one of the PG's & bench players for a top 7 pick,or All-star caliber player.

LV is in great position to be the team of the future.


No one is going to give a top 7 pick for Kelsey Plum and one of their bench players. She has little to no value, and there’s nothing that appealing on the bench. Trading for good players (that could turn into great ones) is never a bad idea, especially when you still have a whole bunch of riff-raff on your bench.

“There’s no guarantee Diamond will be there”. Is that really a bad thing? Landing Kelsey Mitchell and a quality wing would be a grand slam imo. You get a star in Mitchell. Then maybe you can squeeze a pick at the bottom of the first round from Plum and maybe another player, which is more realistic than expecting a pick in the first half of the draft. Players like Vivians, Nurse, Billings, etc would be there.


1.Seattle would probably give LV the #5 pick for Plum & Harrison...The storm could then trade Langhorne for a post/wing....then sign a post/wing.

2.Not a big fan of having a starting trio of Mitchell/Jefferson/McBride(small,defensively weak at pg,sg,and sf).However,Mitchell of the bench would be great...and with the addition of yonug,I can see Bill playing McBride exclusively at SG.

BTW...My “There’s no guarantee Diamond will be there” comment was in response to some people thinking that Bill might trade the #1,then draft DD with the 3rd/4th pk.




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WNBA 09 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
Shades wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
LibFan25 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Hearing Bill looking to trade #1 to Chicago for picks #3 & #4! This could get real! I actually like this! Bill wants Diamond


holy shit Shocked lol this is gettin crazy...he must see something we don't know about Aja Wilson. because if this does happen, and Wilson becomes a star, he's is gonna be murdered lol


Or maybe He's doing something alot of people in america aren't doing in which is paying attention to DD's play overseas.


he could be, i like Diamond's game. i love her speed in the open court she's deadly in transition.


He seems to be emphasizing defense in his acquisitions. Therefore Gabby makes more sense.


i am a Gabby fan, she would fit right in with Bill's philosophy, scheme, and personality. plus...the cherry on top she would be close to home.


Now this i do agree , Gabby could fit with Vegas . But , where ?


i think she can play the SF and PF position, i dont think she will start right away but she can be that energy player off the bench. Gabby is very competitive she won't back down from anybody and ofcourse that athleticism is elite


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It would be surprising to see Storm take Brown, she and Peterson who they have are more gunners than PGs.


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Can anyone recall a draft where a player drafted in the top four was sixth in scoring and had the most turnovers on her college team in her senior year, and had made only one 3pt shot in her career?

I can recall a draft where a top four draftee was fourth on her team in scoring as a senior, but she was fourth in TO's and was an occasional career 3pt shooter at 33%.

I can also recall a draft where a top four draftee was third in scoring and had the most turnovers on her team as a senior, but she holds her school's career 3pt record at 46%.
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The more I see Natalie Butler the more I believe she can make a WNBA team. I can see her moving up into the top of second round, or even the bottom of the first. Admittedly she isn't playing against top competition in the Atlantic 10, but she has enough size and skill to be a serviceable backup, and maybe even develop into a starter.


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calbearman76 wrote:
The more I see Natalie Butler the more I believe she can make a WNBA team. I can see her moving up into the top of second round, or even the bottom of the first. Admittedly she isn't playing against top competition in the Atlantic 10, but she has enough size and skill to be a serviceable backup, and maybe even develop into a starter.


This is odd timing because McGrady just made a case that Gabby’s stats on a team filled with prolific scorers aren’t worthy enough for a top prospect. And now you’re saying the player that Gabby bumped from her spot at center and couldn’t find court time with UConn and subsequently left the team is worthy of a first round pick. Did she beast out in the off season to become greatly improved or is it mostly just the lesser competition? First round seems highly improbable to me. Did she show up in the AP two round mock draft? If not, she’s on nobody’s radar.... unless you contend they’re trying to keep her a secret so she got no mention.



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I'm actually not saying that Gabby Williams will not or should not be picked among the top four. I'm just commenting that she's a very different kind of player who I find difficult to predict in the WNBA, and who has certainly drawn all sorts of hyped attention by the media and is probably the single most talked about player in this thread. And, I confess, I'm tired of announcers raving about her "athleticism" when all she does is grab a rebound or make a steal.

There have been other UConn players who stuffed many box score lines, who were hailed as great defenders, but who were not particularly good shooters: Ashley Battle, Kalana Green and Kelly Faris. None was quite the box score stuffer that Williams has been, but all were much better three-point shooters even though mediocre from that distance.

GlennMacGrady wrote:

I can recall a draft where a top four draftee was fourth on her team in scoring as a senior, but she was fourth in TO's and was an occasional career 3pt shooter at 33%.

I can also recall a draft where a top four draftee was third in scoring and had the most turnovers on her team as a senior, but she holds her school's career 3pt record at 46%.


Both these players were in the same draft. Can anyone identify them?
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GlennMacGrady wrote:
I'm actually not saying that Gabby Williams will not or should not be picked among the top four. I'm just commenting that she's a very different kind of player who I find difficult to predict in the WNBA, and who has certainly drawn all sorts of hyped attention by the media and is probably the single most talked about player in this thread. And, I confess, I'm tired of announcers raving about her "athleticism" when all she does is grab a rebound or make a steal.

There have been other UConn players who stuffed many box score lines, who were hailed as great defenders, but who were not particularly good shooters: Ashley Battle, Kalana Green and Kelly Faris. None was quite the box score stuffer that Williams has been, but all were much better three-point shooters even though mediocre from that distance.

GlennMacGrady wrote:

I can recall a draft where a top four draftee was fourth on her team in scoring as a senior, but she was fourth in TO's and was an occasional career 3pt shooter at 33%.

I can also recall a draft where a top four draftee was third in scoring and had the most turnovers on her team as a senior, but she holds her school's career 3pt record at 46%.


Both these players were in the same draft. Can anyone identify them?


Kristi Toliver & Maybe M Coleman ? #WildGuess



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Williams will be an effective player with a team that needs what she does best on the basketball court. She will not have to be a Maya Moore clone to become a productive WNBA player. No matter where she is drafted be it the top four in the first round or bottom four in the first round. The team that drafts her must accept her for who she is and not try to transform her into a different type of player.



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Rock Hard wrote:
Williams will be an effective player with a team that needs what she does best on the basketball court. She will not have to be a Maya Moore clone to become a productive WNBA player. No matter where she is drafted be it the top four in the first round or bottom four in the first round. The team that drafts her must accept her for who she is and not try to transform her into a different type of player.


Heh, she’d definitely be on the feedback shooting machine if the Lynx draft her. She’s going to learn to shoot the three as well as Brunson.



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Shades wrote:
Rock Hard wrote:
Williams will be an effective player with a team that needs what she does best on the basketball court. She will not have to be a Maya Moore clone to become a productive WNBA player. No matter where she is drafted be it the top four in the first round or bottom four in the first round. The team that drafts her must accept her for who she is and not try to transform her into a different type of player.


Heh, she’d definitely be on the feedback shooting machine if the Lynx draft her. She’s going to learn to shoot the three as well as Brunson.


Im secretly become a fan of Gabby's . I think she would really excell on a team like Vegas . Her size though is most likely what turns bill away from drafting her. Chicago i think she will struggle to find minutes behind the 3's & 4's they have already .



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I had high hopes for mavunga as a freshmen . I had her top 4 draft pick , since the transfer she just doesnt seem as aggressive .



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GlennMacGrady wrote:
I'm actually not saying that Gabby Williams will not or should not be picked among the top four. I'm just commenting that she's a very different kind of player who I find difficult to predict in the WNBA, and who has certainly drawn all sorts of hyped attention by the media and is probably the single most talked about player in this thread. And, I confess, I'm tired of announcers raving about her "athleticism" when all she does is grab a rebound or make a steal.

There have been other UConn players who stuffed many box score lines, who were hailed as great defenders, but who were not particularly good shooters: Ashley Battle, Kalana Green and Kelly Faris. None was quite the box score stuffer that Williams has been, but all were much better three-point shooters even though mediocre from that distance.

GlennMacGrady wrote:

I can recall a draft where a top four draftee was fourth on her team in scoring as a senior, but she was fourth in TO's and was an occasional career 3pt shooter at 33%.

I can also recall a draft where a top four draftee was third in scoring and had the most turnovers on her team as a senior, but she holds her school's career 3pt record at 46%.


Both these players were in the same draft. Can anyone identify them?


Followed a hunch. Checked the stats. Hunch was correct. Asjha Jones and Sue Bird, 2002.



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GlennMacGrady wrote:

GlennMacGrady wrote:

I can recall a draft where a top four draftee was fourth on her team in scoring as a senior, but she was fourth in TO's and was an occasional career 3pt shooter at 33%.

I can also recall a draft where a top four draftee was third in scoring and had the most turnovers on her team as a senior, but she holds her school's career 3pt record at 46%.


Both these players were in the same draft. Can anyone identify them?


Sue Bird & Asjha Jones?


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Dammit you beat me to it Queenie! Where did you find the stats? I couldn’t get it to load on UConn’s website.




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Where do you guys think T. Scaife falls in this draft ? I think she's one of those players who will be around in this league for years , but people have seem to forget about her since her missing last season . This girl has game and id take her before Vivians , Nared , Nurse , ect....Anyone after #7 , id Take Scaife instead.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Where do you guys think T. Scaife falls in this draft ? I think she's one of those players who will be around in this league for years , but people have seem to forget about her since her missing last season . This girl has game and id take her before Vivians , Nared , Nurse , ect....Anyone after #7 , id Take Scaife instead.


She reminds me a lot of Matee Ajavon Confused


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WNBA 09 wrote:
Where do you guys think T. Scaife falls in this draft ? I think she's one of those players who will be around in this league for years , but people have seem to forget about her since her missing last season . This girl has game and id take her before Vivians , Nared , Nurse , ect....Anyone after #7 , id Take Scaife instead.


Okay, I’ll be looking for her at #6 on your final mock. Surprised



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