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Nixtreefan
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Shades
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Posted: 09/05/17 9:31 am ::: |
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
package the pick with Davis for a 2019 pick. Dallas doesn’t really have any pressing need from this draft, and should try and keep the same team only adding Liz. |
For one thing, 2018 is a good draft. 2019 could be a little better top end but then falls off a cliff. You'd have to trade with a team you suspect will be in the lottery (SAN or IND). The thought of enticing a team by adding Davis to the deal to take your 2018 #6 pick in the draft doesn't make much sense to me. I don't like the idea of trading out of the first round in 2018. Cooper did it and look what happened to him.
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Posted: 09/05/17 9:46 am ::: |
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My team needs billings if we stick to #6 . If not Package Christmas & #6 for a higher pick !
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zune69
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:07 am ::: |
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You got it narrowed down to the bottom half of the first round. |
It's hard to predict what dallas is going to do with the 6th pick.Had to list all possible options.
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No.... but let's see what she does in the playoffs. It's been another wonky year for her. Kinda wonder if the passion is there or the year round basketball is too much for her. |
Stokes is still a valued asset,especially on defense.
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I doubt it. She's been a pita, but she's their pita. |
I hope dallas keeps Johnson.The "Big 3" of Cambage,Diggins,and Johnson gives the wings legit championship talent.The wings coaching staff is a different story.I would like to see them hire a defensive coach if possible.
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How do you know? Is that what Megdal is reporting? |
The "Salary database" thread.
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Diggins is signed at least through the 2019 season. |
Extending Skylar's contract would be in the best interest of the dallas franchise.
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And more importantly, she's not a great fit. |
I agree.
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Got any predictions on that? |
McCowen is very raw.Staying in college for 2 more years will do her some good.Stevens and Collier will be the best frontcourt duo in WCB,both players will bypass the 2018 draft.
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zune69
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:13 am ::: |
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My team needs billings if we stick to #6 . If not Package Christmas & #6 for a higher pick ! |
Why would any team give up a higher pick for Christmas when they can just sign her and keep their pick ?
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:14 am ::: |
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Someone please explain to me why Diamond DeShields is going to be an elite WNBA player. Like Kaela Davis, the evidence seems to me to begin and end with the potential inherent in the combination of size, athleticism and some offensive skills. But there is a major difference between potential and production, and DeShields has never been nearly as productive as her potential suggests -- and given her history, it's hard to see her as a team player willing to do what's best for the group in a given situation.
One other bit of evidence: USA Basketball had her lined up to be an Olympian, putting her in top-level international competitions at the youngest possible age. Now, crickets ...
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bballjunkie
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:15 am ::: |
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Stevens has to prove to Geno she can play D, he benched her in Italy for being soft and Collier will still be undersized in the W with the same issues as Everyone is stating for Williams but Williams is the better athlete.
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Shades
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:29 am ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
You got it narrowed down to the bottom half of the first round. |
It's hard to predict what dallas is going to do with the 6th pick.Had to list all possible options. |
Instead of a prediction, tell us who they should draft.
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Shades wrote: |
How do you know? Is that what Megdal is reporting? |
The "Salary database" thread. |
That's Megdal.
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Shades wrote: |
Diggins is signed at least through the 2019 season. |
Extending Skylar's contract would be in the best interest of the dallas franchise. |
Hmm... I thought they gave her 4 years on her last contract but I can't confirm.
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LibFan25
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:32 am ::: |
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bballjunkie wrote: |
Stevens has to prove to Geno she can play D, he benched her in Italy for being soft and Collier will still be undersized in the W with the same issues as Everyone is stating for Williams but Williams is the better athlete. |
Collier is 6'1 has Long arms, I don't know her reach but you can tell from just watching her.
I like Collier's game, she can shoot, she can run the floor, not as athletic as Gabby but I like her. I don't think she will declare 2018 though
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Shades
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:33 am ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
WNBA 09 wrote: |
My team needs billings if we stick to #6 . If not Package Christmas & #6 for a higher pick ! |
Why would any team give up a higher pick for Christmas when they can just sign her and keep their pick ? |
Why let her walk if they don't have anybody else to core?
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zune69
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:38 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Instead of a prediction, tell us who they should draft. . |
As of right now,dallas should draft Russell,but things can change.
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Why let her walk if they don't have anybody else to core? |
Log Jam...specifically Davis.....signing Christmas and trading Davis is another option.
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:43 am ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Someone please explain to me why Diamond DeShields is going to be an elite WNBA player. Like Kaela Davis, the evidence seems to me to begin and end with the potential inherent in the combination of size, athleticism and some offensive skills. But there is a major difference between potential and production, and DeShields has never been nearly as productive as her potential suggests -- and given her history, it's hard to see her as a team player willing to do what's best for the group in a given situation.
One other bit of evidence: USA Basketball had her lined up to be an Olympian, putting her in top-level international competitions at the youngest possible age. Now, crickets ... |
THANK YOU, CLAYK. Every time I read someone's 2018 mock draft they always have DeShields name with Chicago attached to it. No and HELL NO!
DeShields reminds me of a retired NBA player Todd Day. Day would flash a great game with the frequency of Planet X orbiting our solar system. Milwaukee Bucks fans would pull all the hair from their scalps waiting for this man to deliver on his potential. The man did not blow up to be a superstar. Neither will DeShields.
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Shades
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Posted: 09/05/17 10:59 am ::: |
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zune23 wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Why let her walk if they don't have anybody else to core? |
Log Jam...specifically Davis.....signing Christmas and trading Davis is another option. |
I'm not saying they have to keep her, but you don't let her walk away for nothing. Stumbling Miller was even able to get something for Little after coring her. The something that he got hasn't really panned out but that's another story that could change.
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myrtle
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:01 am ::: |
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Rock Hard wrote: |
ClayK wrote: |
Someone please explain to me why Diamond DeShields is going to be an elite WNBA player. Like Kaela Davis, the evidence seems to me to begin and end with the potential inherent in the combination of size, athleticism and some offensive skills. But there is a major difference between potential and production, and DeShields has never been nearly as productive as her potential suggests -- and given her history, it's hard to see her as a team player willing to do what's best for the group in a given situation.
One other bit of evidence: USA Basketball had her lined up to be an Olympian, putting her in top-level international competitions at the youngest possible age. Now, crickets ... |
THANK YOU, CLAYK. Every time I read someone's 2018 mock draft they always have DeShields name with Chicago attached to it. No and HELL NO!
DeShields reminds me of a retired NBA player Todd Day. Day would flash a great game with the frequency of Planet X orbiting our solar system. Milwaukee Bucks fans would pull all the hair from their scalps waiting for this man to deliver on his potential. The man did not blow up to be a superstar. Neither will DeShields. |
Thanks for clarifying what happened to your hair!
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myrtle
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:03 am ::: |
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I have to giggle at the idea that Cambage will take you to the promised land. Yeah, she might...for one year only, then what?
And to say that a team that ended up under .500 has no needs? Hello!
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Shades
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:12 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
I have to giggle at the idea that Cambage will take you to the promised land. |
I'm not laughing.
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Yeah, she might...for one year only, then what? |
One year is better than nothing. It's not costing them anything other than losing Lewis, who would be available later if they liked her that much. Cambage hasn't really played for this team or city. She might find it to her liking and become the next Lauren Jackson. And if she doesn't, what do you lose?
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And to say that a team that ended up under .500 has no needs? Hello! |
Might they need a new coach? Who's available though.
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#Occasionalwnbafan
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:20 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
I have to giggle at the idea that Cambage will take you to the promised land. Yeah, she might...for one year only, then what?
And to say that a team that ended up under .500 has no needs? Hello! |
Diggins-Smith/Chong
Gray/Powers
Christmas-Kelly/Thornton
Johnson/Plaisance/Akhator
Cambage/Paris/Lewis or Hamblin
You get Powers at the start of the season with Cambage, an improved Gray. Three legit All Stars in Sky, Liz, and Glory, with scoring ability, that alone should put them pass Connecticut, Phoenix, New York, and keep them above Seattle and Atlanta. I think added Cambage can take them from 16 wins to about 20 or 22. |
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:26 am ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
I have to giggle at the idea that Cambage will take you to the promised land. Yeah, she might...for one year only, then what?
And to say that a team that ended up under .500 has no needs? Hello! |
Diggins-Smith/Chong
Gray/Powers
Christmas-Kelly/Thornton
Johnson/Plaisance/Akhator
Cambage/Paris/Lewis or Hamblin
You get Powers at the start of the season with Cambage, an improved Gray. Three legit All Stars in Sky, Liz, and Glory, with scoring ability, that alone should put them pass Connecticut, Phoenix, New York, and keep them above Seattle and Atlanta. I think added Cambage can take them from 16 wins to about 20 or 22. |
I believe everyone would agree that Dallas would be a better team with Cambage on the roster. The main problem is Cambage has been a no show for Dallas. More people have seen Big Foot than Cambage appearance playing in the WNBA.
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:36 am ::: |
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I remember a few years ago there was a long discussion on the Hawks message board about trading Millsap for Bigfoot. So yeah he has been around more than Liz
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Shades
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:38 am ::: |
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Rock Hard wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
myrtle wrote: |
I have to giggle at the idea that Cambage will take you to the promised land. Yeah, she might...for one year only, then what?
And to say that a team that ended up under .500 has no needs? Hello! |
Diggins-Smith/Chong
Gray/Powers
Christmas-Kelly/Thornton
Johnson/Plaisance/Akhator
Cambage/Paris/Lewis or Hamblin
You get Powers at the start of the season with Cambage, an improved Gray. Three legit All Stars in Sky, Liz, and Glory, with scoring ability, that alone should put them pass Connecticut, Phoenix, New York, and keep them above Seattle and Atlanta. I think added Cambage can take them from 16 wins to about 20 or 22. |
I believe everyone would agree that Dallas would be a better team with Cambage on the roster. The main problem is Cambage has been a no show for Dallas. More people have seen Big Foot than Cambage appearance playing in the WNBA. |
2015: Achilles rehab
2016: Olympics top priority
2017: I'm sad (meaning she wanted to try out being a DJ; had gigs set up)
She seems over the DJ thing, but we'll see.
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Posted: 09/05/17 11:43 am ::: |
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I think the hope of Cambage coming over was the fact she visited the team this summer with Erin Phillips giving her a tour of the arena and city. I won't hold my breath either, but there is some hope for her to play in 2018.
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Posted: 09/05/17 12:26 pm ::: |
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Brianna Turner sitting out the season. Doubt she'll be in the draft.
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