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PostPosted: 03/02/18 5:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
This is a Deshields interview that turns out to be an ad for Ajavon Elite camps.
Video produced by Matee Ajavon.

Myrtle is gonna hate this interview because at about 3:13, DeShields recommends not staying your full term at college if you have the opportunity to enter the pros early. I agree with her. At 5:00 she talks about Matee Ajavon.



I don't think there's a one-size fits all. If she feels good about it for herself, great. I think a lot of other girls (but not saying 'all') would be better off completing college. In her case it definitely benefited her team to leave early as well.


Does all this mean that Diamond DeShields won't be wearing Purple & Gold this season? Doesn't she want to replace Alana at SG/SF when our defensive queen hangs up her kicks for good? We need some Penny/Brian magic here. Cool



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PostPosted: 03/02/18 11:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Aces 2018 Draft Prospect Kelsey Mitchell

http://aces.wnba.com/kelsey-mitchell-5-8-g-ohio-state/


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“Kelsey Mitchell is a natural scorer with a potent combination of strength, quickness, and body control. She excels at getting into the lane, and making plays for herself and others, and is a terrific ball-handler.”



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PostPosted: 03/03/18 12:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just wondering if anyone is watching games as I am seeing a lot of inconsistent, poor body language players who don't even attempt to play defense and yet some of you are saying they are top players Shocked


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https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/02/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-3-0-ranking-underclassmen/

Projected first rounders

Teaira McCowan 6’7 C Mississippi State
Azura Stevens 6’6 F Connecticut
Sophie Cunningham 6’1 G Missouri
Jessica Shepard 6’4 F/C Notre Dame
Kitija Laksa 6′ F South Florida

Projected second rounders

Hallie Thome 6’5 C Michigan
Napheesa Collier 6’1 F Connecticut
Kennedy Leonard 5’8 PG Colorado
Paris Kea 5’9 G North Carolina
Alexis Jennings 6’3 F South Carolina
Alanna Smith 6’3 F Stanford

Projected third rounders
Marina Mabrey 5’11 G Notre Dame
Lili Thompson 5’7 G Notre Dame
Sierra Calhoun 6′ G Ohio State
Regan Magarity 6’3 F Virginia Tech
Jatarie White 6’4 C Texas

I believe Collier would be a 1st rounder if she chose to come out early.


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Davis4632 wrote:
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/02/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-3-0-ranking-underclassmen/

Projected first rounders

Teaira McCowan 6’7 C Mississippi State
Azura Stevens 6’6 F Connecticut
Sophie Cunningham 6’1 G Missouri
Jessica Shepard 6’4 F/C Notre Dame
Kitija Laksa 6′ F South Florida

Projected second rounders

Hallie Thome 6’5 C Michigan
Napheesa Collier 6’1 F Connecticut
Kennedy Leonard 5’8 PG Colorado
Paris Kea 5’9 G North Carolina
Alexis Jennings 6’3 F South Carolina
Alanna Smith 6’3 F Stanford

Projected third rounders
Marina Mabrey 5’11 G Notre Dame
Lili Thompson 5’7 G Notre Dame
Sierra Calhoun 6′ G Ohio State
Regan Magarity 6’3 F Virginia Tech
Jatarie White 6’4 C Texas

I believe Collier would be a 1st rounder if she chose to come out early.


lol at Collier a 2nd rounder Laughing nope


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PostPosted: 03/03/18 10:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/02/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-3-0-ranking-underclassmen/

Lili Thompson 5’7 G Notre Dame


She's a grad student, not a RS junior.


How'd he miss Kenisha Bell? I'd rate her a second rounder.



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PostPosted: 03/03/18 10:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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https://summitthoops.com/2018/02/09/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-2-0/

Megdal Mock Draft 2.0
1. A’ja Wilson
2. Kelsey Mitchell
3. Diamond DeShields
4. Gabby Williams
5. Jordin Canada (+4)
6. Maria Vadeeva
7. Azura Stevens
8. Lexie Brown
9. Victoria Vivians (+4)
10. Monique Billings
11. Tyler Scaife (+4)
12. Kia Nurse

13. Las Vegas Shakayla Thomas
14. Indiana Stephanie Mavunga
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared (-4)
16. Atlanta Katelynn Flaherty
17. Seattle Mercedes Russell
18. Dallas Ariel Atkins
19. Washington Taeler Deer (Huh?)
20. Phoenix AJ Alix
21. Connecticut Vionise Pierre-Louis
22. New York Brook McCarty
23. Los Angeles Morgan William
24. Minnesota Natalie Butler

25. Las Vegas Jackie Kemph
26. Indiana Loryn Goodwin
27. Atlanta Rebecca Greenwell
28. Chicago Ke’Shunan James
29. Seattle Teana Muldrow
30. Dallas Tyra Buss
31. Washington Gabbi Ortiz
32. Las Vegas Myisha Hines-Allen
33. Connecticut Lexi Bando
34. New York Kristen Confroy
35. Los Angeles Kolby Morgan
36. Minnesota Carlie Wagner


https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/02/2018-wnba-draft-big-board-v-3-0-ranking-underclassmen/2/
1. Las Vegas Aces: A’ja Wilson, 6/5 F/C South Carolina
2. Indiana Fever: Kelsey Mitchell, 5’8 G Ohio State
3. Chicago Sky: Diamond DeShields, 6’1 F Tennessee
4. Chicago Sky: Gabby Williams, 5’11 F Connecticut
5. Seattle Storm: Jordin Canada, 5’6 G UCLA
6. Dallas Wings: Lexie Brown, 5’9 G Duke (+2)
7. Washington Mystics: Kia Nurse 6′ G Connecticut (+5)
8. Phoenix Mercury Maria Vadeeva, 6’3 C Russia (-2)
9. Connecticut Sun: Victoria Vivians, 6’1 F, Mississippi State
10. New York Liberty: Ariel Atkins 5’11 G/F Texas (+8)
11. Los Angeles Sparks: Stephanie Mavunga 6’3 F/C Ohio State
12. Minnesota Lynx: Katelynn Flaherty 5’7 G Michigan (+4)

13. Las Vegas Monique Billings, 6’4 F UCLA (-3)
14. Indiana Tyler Scaife, 5’9 G Rutgers (-3)
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared, 6’2 G/F Tennessee
16. Atlanta Brook McCarty 5’4 G Texas (+6)
17. Minnesota Mercedes Russell 6’6 C Tennessee (Bargain!)
18. Dallas Shakayla Thomas 5’11 F Florida State (-5)
19. Washington Taeler Deer 5’5 G Texas State
20. Phoenix AJ Alix 5’6 G Florida State
21. Phoenix Vionise Pierre-Louis 6’4 C Oklahoma
22. New York Marie Gulich 6’5 C Oregon State (+NE)
23. Los Angeles Natalie Butler 6’5 C George Mason (+1)
24. Minnesota Rebecca Greenwell 6’1 G/F Duke (+3)

25. Las Vegas Jackie Kemph 5’7 G St. Louis
26. Phoenix Morgan William 5’5 G Mississippi State (-3)
27. Atlanta Loryn Goodwin 5’9 G Oklahoma State (-1)
28. Chicago Ke’Shunan James 6’1 G/F Murray State
29. Seattle Teana Muldrow 6’1 F West Virginia
30. Dallas Tyra Buss 5’8 G Indiana
31. Washington Gabbi Ortiz 5’9 G Oklahoma
32. Las Vegas Kolby Morgan 5’8 G Tulane (+3)
33. Connecticut Lexi Bando 5’9 G/F Oregon
34. New York Kristen Confroy 5’9 G Maryland
35. Los Angeles Myisha Hines-Allen 6’2 F Louisville (-3)
36. Minnesota Carlie Wagner 5’10 G Minnesota





#11 - At least he listens about the Sparks not needing a G or SF
#12 - Terrible choice
#17 - Bargain!
#24 - Another terrible choice
#36 - Wise

Nobody choosing Kristy Wallace as a deferred pick?



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PostPosted: 03/03/18 11:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seems weird to nominate a player for Phoenix who plays the only position we've already got covered for a while by a legit star.



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Luuuc wrote:
Seems weird to nominate a player for Phoenix who plays the only position we've already got covered for a while by a legit star.

Maybe the thinking is that Brondello having no clue how to use rookies will be less of an issue if the player isn't actually there.

More seriously, I think people see Phoenix as an easy slot for Vadeeva because of Brondello/Lange's links to Russia. But yeah, Griner/Vadeeva as a frontcourt would require some awkward contortions to make work.



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Luuuc wrote:
Seems weird to nominate a player for Phoenix who plays the only position we've already got covered for a while by a legit star.


Not once but twice. While not trying to fill the forward slot that would seem to be a bigger issue for the future.


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Atlanta does not need an undersized guard



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Atlanta does not need an undersized guard


Getting Goodwin at #27 would make up for that pick.



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Atlanta does not need an undersized guard


If you buy the premise that Russell is still around at 16 even I would think she's a good pick for the Dream. And Nared is shown as going 15 - how hard would it be to make a deal with the Sun to get Nared in exchange for 16+a bag chips or something. Sun don't really need Nared anyway. Dream always seem to take an LV (or similarly local) player in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

I kind of doubt either Nared or Russell will fall that far.



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PostPosted: 03/04/18 11:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Victoria Vivians stock is rising so high that i'm starting to wonder if Chicago would draft her instead of Deshields? im just puttin that out there because she is playing like a top 5 pick.

i could see her go now to Chicago, Dallas, or Washington. she aint lasting to 10 lol i would be surprised


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If you buy the premise that Russell is still around at 16 even I would think she's a good pick for the Dream.


Why would you need twin towers? They strike me as very similar players, with Russell having the edge offensively and McGee having the edge defensively.

Randy wrote:
And Nared is shown as going 15 - how hard would it be to make a deal with the Sun to get Nared in exchange for 16+a bag chips or something.


How many bags of chips do you have left over there? You don’t own Ajavon and you let Young (a probable starter for Laimbeer) walk away for free.

Randy wrote:
Sun don't really need Nared anyway.


What do they need besides maybe a less arrogant coach pretending to “build a culture”? I think the real culture building left when Collen left the building.

Randy wrote:
Dream always seem to take an LV (or similarly local) player in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.


Wasn’t that all in the Cooper era?

Randy wrote:
I kind of doubt either Nared or Russell will fall that far.


Russell (or both really) seems to have checked out early at Tennessee, but if she has a big game in NCAAs, her stock should bounce back. Not many viable bigs to choose from in this draft. Whatever made Russell the #1 prospect out of high school according to ESPN is probably still in there. You just need to find the right coach to bring it out.

It’s hard to see that many teams that could use her kind of size passing on her:
SEA, DAL, WAS, PHX (practice player for Griner. She literally loves her LV’s), MIN, LVA (Laimbeer loves bigs. He had 4 college centers for his post rotation in NYL), IND (Pokey would pass on her at #14? No team needs height more than they do).



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Dallas will be selecting a post in the 1st Round Thats Is All.



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Dallas will be selecting a post in the 1st Round Thats Is All.


Whose post? Yours or Shades'? Smile


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I don't care who takes Vadeeva as long as she goes in the first 9 picks and pushes someone better down to NY at #10. Smile

Speaking of post players, while Russell is beginning to look like an SNL parody of herself, Billings has really stepped up recently. She is shooting 40-68 58.8% in her last five games and it's mostly been tough shots with defenders draped all over her. Monique is taking and making more mid-range jumpers, and her footwork down low is much improved. I can once again imagine a team wanting to take Billings instead of being stuck with her because there's no one else better.



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Shades - Dream have been going for "local" talent as throwaway picks since the days or MM (see Briggitte ANdrossi) and Fred (Marie Armstong). For the same reason, Greenwell might end up with the Dream.

As for Russell and Nared, maybe these LV players kind of get a pass because the team/coaching situation seems fraught with question marks. However, about the only LV player (post Parker) to exceed expectation is Johnson so may be not. I just don't see Russell falling out of the first round, and doubt Nared is available at 16, but if she is I think Dream would take her. I could see NY or MN picking up Russell.

Dream do need a back up center too in order to fill Morello's seat. However, the only backups for Angel are Hayes and Sykes.



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Dallas will be selecting a post in the 1st Round Thats Is All.


Whose post? Yours or Shades'? Smile


The Shades 09 post of courseee Cool



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Atlanta does not need an undersized guard
no one does especially Mccarthy.


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What do they need besides maybe a less arrogant coach pretending to “build a culture”? I think the real culture building left when Collen left the building.


Wow, he really hit a nerve with that "basement" comment, didn't he? Fortunetely, he's a good enough coach to overcome rebkell's disgust.


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I always thought the basement comment was hilarious. Every good joke has a shade of truth in it.

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3rd to last mock really mixing it up up with some of the latest trends, I plan on one big move but Lib Fan 25 kind of beat me too it, but I'm doubling down with a second move. Lets watch as the trends continue or undo themselves over the last month.

1. LV Wilson (Not crazy enough to change this yet)
2. Indy Mitchell (2018 corner stone scorer, waiting to be paired with 2019 corner stone post)
3. Chi Vivians (could she end up starting ahead of Copper by season's end?)
4. Chi Nurse (Nice back up to Quigley 3 and D off the bench glue player)
5. Sea Canada (Future back-court of Canada and Loyd will be so fast and hard to guard)
6. Dallas Deshields (opps not a post, but she'll fit in here, and they have plenty of wings to trade for a post Diggins, Gray, Deshields, GloJo, Cambage, holy crap.)
7. Was G. Williams (nice defensive fit at the SF with EDD at PF and Toliver/Hill at the PG/SG)
8. PX Billings (young, athletic, bench banger to change it up from the vet posts)
9. Conn L. Brown (Good fit with coach and team, probably a little shocked to see her this low)
10. NY Nared (I still see her as a Liberty player even if she is struggling ATM she still plays hard and is a future starting SF IMO)
11. LA Vadeeva (Only LA can take the risk)
12. Minn Russell (OK you get to learn the pro game behind Fowles time to step up)

13. LV Atkins (is this the steal of the draft?)
14. Indy Mavunga (by product of scouting someone else at the same school with someone with a shared last name already on the team)
15. Conn Scaife (Scaife and Brown bad luck for Banham)
16. Atl S. Thomas (back up for Angel)
17. Minn Goodwyn (bench scoring ala Perkins)
18. Dallas Pierre-Louis (out with the old OK Center in with the new)
19. Was Gulich (A big shot blocker to back up a big shot blocker)
20. PX Hines-Allen (all around player at this point it will be hard to break through)
21. PX McPhee (long shot, but could learn some stuff from DT in camp)
22. NY Butler (Well Stokes kind of worked, could Butler be Stokes 2.0)
23. LA Muldrow (Bench defender)
24. Minn C. Wagner (Minny to Minny, maybe Whalen can show her the ropes)


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J-Spoon wrote:
3rd to last mock really mixing it up up with some of the latest trends, I plan on one big move but Lib Fan 25 kind of beat me too it, but I'm doubling down with a second move. Lets watch as the trends continue or undo themselves over the last month.

1. LV Wilson (Not crazy enough to change this yet)
2. Indy Mitchell (2018 corner stone scorer, waiting to be paired with 2019 corner stone post)
3. Chi Vivians (could she end up starting ahead of Copper by season's end?)
4. Chi Nurse (Nice back up to Quigley 3 and D off the bench glue player)
5. Sea Canada (Future back-court of Canada and Loyd will be so fast and hard to guard)
6. Dallas Deshields (opps not a post, but she'll fit in here, and they have plenty of wings to trade for a post Diggins, Gray, Deshields, GloJo, Cambage, holy crap.)
7. Was G. Williams (nice defensive fit at the SF with EDD at PF and Toliver/Hill at the PG/SG)
8. PX Billings (young, athletic, bench banger to change it up from the vet posts)
9. Conn L. Brown (Good fit with coach and team, probably a little shocked to see her this low)
10. NY Nared (I still see her as a Liberty player even if she is struggling ATM she still plays hard and is a future starting SF IMO)
11. LA Vadeeva (Only LA can take the risk)
12. Minn Russell (OK you get to learn the pro game behind Fowles time to step up)

13. LV Atkins (is this the steal of the draft?)
14. Indy Mavunga (by product of scouting someone else at the same school with someone with a shared last name already on the team)
15. Conn Scaife (Scaife and Brown bad luck for Banham)
16. Atl S. Thomas (back up for Angel)
17. Minn Goodwyn (bench scoring ala Perkins)
18. Dallas Pierre-Louis (out with the old OK Center in with the new)
19. Was Gulich (A big shot blocker to back up a big shot blocker)
20. PX Hines-Allen (all around player at this point it will be hard to break through)
21. PX McPhee (long shot, but could learn some stuff from DT in camp)
22. NY Butler (Well Stokes kind of worked, could Butler be Stokes 2.0)
23. LA Muldrow (Bench defender)
24. Minn C. Wagner (Minny to Minny, maybe Whalen can show her the ropes)







As usual on this board just throw anyone in a wings uniform Laughing
We dont need diamond anymore but i will take her. I was referring to Pierre being our 2nd pick in which is just ___________



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Shades wrote:

What do they need besides maybe a less arrogant coach pretending to “build a culture”? I think the real culture building left when Collen left the building.


Wow, he really hit a nerve with that "basement" comment, didn't he? Fortunetely, he's a good enough coach to overcome rebkell's disgust.


If only he'd used that comment in defense of a smart move instead of an obviously dumb one



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WNBA 09 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
3rd to last mock really mixing it up up with some of the latest trends, I plan on one big move but Lib Fan 25 kind of beat me too it, but I'm doubling down with a second move. Lets watch as the trends continue or undo themselves over the last month.

1. LV Wilson (Not crazy enough to change this yet)
2. Indy Mitchell (2018 corner stone scorer, waiting to be paired with 2019 corner stone post)
3. Chi Vivians (could she end up starting ahead of Copper by season's end?)
4. Chi Nurse (Nice back up to Quigley 3 and D off the bench glue player)
5. Sea Canada (Future back-court of Canada and Loyd will be so fast and hard to guard)
6. Dallas Deshields (opps not a post, but she'll fit in here, and they have plenty of wings to trade for a post Diggins, Gray, Deshields, GloJo, Cambage, holy crap.)
7. Was G. Williams (nice defensive fit at the SF with EDD at PF and Toliver/Hill at the PG/SG)
8. PX Billings (young, athletic, bench banger to change it up from the vet posts)
9. Conn L. Brown (Good fit with coach and team, probably a little shocked to see her this low)
10. NY Nared (I still see her as a Liberty player even if she is struggling ATM she still plays hard and is a future starting SF IMO)
11. LA Vadeeva (Only LA can take the risk)
12. Minn Russell (OK you get to learn the pro game behind Fowles time to step up)

13. LV Atkins (is this the steal of the draft?)
14. Indy Mavunga (by product of scouting someone else at the same school with someone with a shared last name already on the team)
15. Conn Scaife (Scaife and Brown bad luck for Banham)
16. Atl S. Thomas (back up for Angel)
17. Minn Goodwyn (bench scoring ala Perkins)
18. Dallas Pierre-Louis (out with the old OK Center in with the new)
19. Was Gulich (A big shot blocker to back up a big shot blocker)
20. PX Hines-Allen (all around player at this point it will be hard to break through)
21. PX McPhee (long shot, but could learn some stuff from DT in camp)
22. NY Butler (Well Stokes kind of worked, could Butler be Stokes 2.0)
23. LA Muldrow (Bench defender)
24. Minn C. Wagner (Minny to Minny, maybe Whalen can show her the ropes)







As usual on this board just throw anyone in a wings uniform Laughing
We dont need diamond anymore but i will take her. I was referring to Pierre being our 2nd pick in which is just ___________


It was a coin toss between her, Gulich and Jensen, (I guess it was a 3 sided coin) but I liked the Oklahoma connection.

Based on who would be left who would you prefer?

And yeah Dallas has to take Diamond at #6 if she is there redundancy or not. Would you pass up Diamond at #6 for Russell or Billings? You can probably trade one of your wings, literal wings, not figurative Wings for a better post than you could get in the 2nd round anyway.


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What do they need besides maybe a less arrogant coach pretending to “build a culture”? I think the real culture building left when Collen left the building.


Wow, he really hit a nerve with that "basement" comment, didn't he? Fortunetely, he's a good enough coach to overcome rebkell's disgust.


If only he'd used that comment in defense of a smart move instead of an obviously dumb one


Akhator still has plenty of time to prove she is one of the top players from the 2017 Draft. How dare us basement-dwellers continue to think otherwise.

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3rd to last mock really mixing it up up with some of the latest trends, I plan on one big move but Lib Fan 25 kind of beat me too it, but I'm doubling down with a second move. Lets watch as the trends continue or undo themselves over the last month.

1. LV Wilson (Not crazy enough to change this yet)
2. Indy Mitchell (2018 corner stone scorer, waiting to be paired with 2019 corner stone post)
3. Chi Vivians (could she end up starting ahead of Copper by season's end?)
4. Chi Nurse (Nice back up to Quigley 3 and D off the bench glue player)
5. Sea Canada (Future back-court of Canada and Loyd will be so fast and hard to guard)
6. Dallas Deshields (opps not a post, but she'll fit in here, and they have plenty of wings to trade for a post Diggins, Gray, Deshields, GloJo, Cambage, holy crap.)
7. Was G. Williams (nice defensive fit at the SF with EDD at PF and Toliver/Hill at the PG/SG)
8. PX Billings (young, athletic, bench banger to change it up from the vet posts)
9. Conn L. Brown (Good fit with coach and team, probably a little shocked to see her this low)
10. NY Nared (I still see her as a Liberty player even if she is struggling ATM she still plays hard and is a future starting SF IMO)
11. LA Vadeeva (Only LA can take the risk)
12. Minn Russell (OK you get to learn the pro game behind Fowles time to step up)

13. LV Atkins (is this the steal of the draft?)
14. Indy Mavunga (by product of scouting someone else at the same school with someone with a shared last name already on the team)
15. Conn Scaife (Scaife and Brown bad luck for Banham)
16. Atl S. Thomas (back up for Angel)
17. Minn Goodwyn (bench scoring ala Perkins)
18. Dallas Pierre-Louis (out with the old OK Center in with the new)
19. Was Gulich (A big shot blocker to back up a big shot blocker)
20. PX Hines-Allen (all around player at this point it will be hard to break through)
21. PX McPhee (long shot, but could learn some stuff from DT in camp)
22. NY Butler (Well Stokes kind of worked, could Butler be Stokes 2.0)
23. LA Muldrow (Bench defender)
24. Minn C. Wagner (Minny to Minny, maybe Whalen can show her the ropes)







As usual on this board just throw anyone in a wings uniform Laughing
We dont need diamond anymore but i will take her. I was referring to Pierre being our 2nd pick in which is just ___________


It was a coin toss between her, Gulich and Jensen, (I guess it was a 3 sided coin) but I liked the Oklahoma connection.

Based on who would be left who would you prefer?

And yeah Dallas has to take Diamond at #6 if she is there redundancy or not. Would you pass up Diamond at #6 for Russell or Billings? You can probably trade one of your wings, literal wings, not figurative Wings for a better post than you could get in the 2nd round anyway.


If Diamond is their and thats pretty much a 1℅ chance then yes we take her but as for our 2nd pick i had Mavunga or Atkins possibly but scaife if shes still available for sure.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
3rd to last mock really mixing it up up with some of the latest trends, I plan on one big move but Lib Fan 25 kind of beat me too it, but I'm doubling down with a second move. Lets watch as the trends continue or undo themselves over the last month.

1. LV Wilson (Not crazy enough to change this yet)
2. Indy Mitchell (2018 corner stone scorer, waiting to be paired with 2019 corner stone post)
3. Chi Vivians (could she end up starting ahead of Copper by season's end?)
4. Chi Nurse (Nice back up to Quigley 3 and D off the bench glue player)
5. Sea Canada (Future back-court of Canada and Loyd will be so fast and hard to guard)
6. Dallas Deshields (opps not a post, but she'll fit in here, and they have plenty of wings to trade for a post Diggins, Gray, Deshields, GloJo, Cambage, holy crap.)
7. Was G. Williams (nice defensive fit at the SF with EDD at PF and Toliver/Hill at the PG/SG)
8. PX Billings (young, athletic, bench banger to change it up from the vet posts)
9. Conn L. Brown (Good fit with coach and team, probably a little shocked to see her this low)
10. NY Nared (I still see her as a Liberty player even if she is struggling ATM she still plays hard and is a future starting SF IMO)
11. LA Vadeeva (Only LA can take the risk)
12. Minn Russell (OK you get to learn the pro game behind Fowles time to step up)

13. LV Atkins (is this the steal of the draft?)
14. Indy Mavunga (by product of scouting someone else at the same school with someone with a shared last name already on the team)
15. Conn Scaife (Scaife and Brown bad luck for Banham)
16. Atl S. Thomas (back up for Angel)
17. Minn Goodwyn (bench scoring ala Perkins)
18. Dallas Pierre-Louis (out with the old OK Center in with the new)
19. Was Gulich (A big shot blocker to back up a big shot blocker)
20. PX Hines-Allen (all around player at this point it will be hard to break through)
21. PX McPhee (long shot, but could learn some stuff from DT in camp)
22. NY Butler (Well Stokes kind of worked, could Butler be Stokes 2.0)
23. LA Muldrow (Bench defender)
24. Minn C. Wagner (Minny to Minny, maybe Whalen can show her the ropes)







As usual on this board just throw anyone in a wings uniform Laughing
We dont need diamond anymore but i will take her. I was referring to Pierre being our 2nd pick in which is just ___________


It was a coin toss between her, Gulich and Jensen, (I guess it was a 3 sided coin) but I liked the Oklahoma connection.

Based on who would be left who would you prefer?

And yeah Dallas has to take Diamond at #6 if she is there redundancy or not. Would you pass up Diamond at #6 for Russell or Billings? You can probably trade one of your wings, literal wings, not figurative Wings for a better post than you could get in the 2nd round anyway.


If Diamond is their and thats pretty much a 1℅ chance then yes we take her but as for our 2nd pick i had Mavunga or Atkins possibly but scaife if shes still available for sure.


All of those are good picks, but on my mock above they are all gone by 18 so who would you pick if all those players are off the board? Since you are not a fan of the player I picked. Which I'm OK with, by mid second round things get much muddier.

Actually looking at Dallas I think the the 2nd round pick struggles to make the team either way (Diggins, Chong, Gray, Davis, Christmas-Kelly, Powers, Johnson, Thorton, Cambage, Plaisance and #6 bring you to 11, which pretty much leaves only one spot for Akhator, Lewis, #18, #30 and the waiver wire, if Dallas gets lucky and someone good is left at 18 then that could be the last spot, but I think Akhator, Lewis and even the top of the waiver wire could be just as good if not better than the 2nd round pick.).

I also agree it will be hard for Deshields to fall, but with Vivians, Nurse, Canada and L. Brown all sort of blowing up at the right time I don't think it is impossible that Diamond or G. Williams (my assumed lottery players with Mitchell and Wilson for most of the season) could fall out of the lottery, which was my launch point for this current mock.


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3rd to last mock


I’m pretty sure you’ll have more than 2 more left in you.

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3. Chi Vivians (could she end up starting ahead of Copper by season's end?)
4. Chi Nurse (Nice back up to Quigley 3 and D off the bench glue player)


Daring call against the consensus. Stocks reportedly does favor defense.
The reality is Williams is probably better at defense than Nurse, but they’re both good.

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5. Sea Canada (Future back-court of Canada and Loyd will be so fast and hard to guard)


Is she better than Brown? I suppose Canada does more closely resemble guards Hughes has recently drafted.

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6. Dallas Deshields (opps not a post, but she'll fit in here, and they have plenty of wings to trade for a post Diggins, Gray, Deshields, GloJo, Cambage, holy crap.)


Don’t forget it sounds like Christmas is staying and they also have Powers and Thornton. It seems Powers is playing more like a guard overseas.

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7. Was G. Williams (nice defensive fit at the SF with EDD at PF and Toliver/Hill at the PG/SG)


How can anybody pass on her at #7?

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8. PHX Billings (young, athletic, bench banger to change it up from the vet posts)


I’m sure Griner will like her. Will give new meaning to “bench banger”.

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9. Conn L. Brown (Good fit with coach and team, probably a little shocked to see her this low)


I like Brown, so I don’t like this situation for her. Somebody save her.

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11. LA Vadeeva (Only LA can take the risk)


CON doesn’t need a lot so they could probably dabble, but they don’t have the greatest history of drawing foreign players. MIN could take that risk.

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12. Minn Russell (OK you get to learn the pro game behind Fowles time to step up)
17. Minn Goodwyn
24. Minn C. Wagner


Glad you’re making an effort to keep me happy. I would love this draft for Minnesota, but the odds of it happening are pretty remote.


J-Spoon wrote:
13. LV Atkins (is this the steal of the draft?)


At #13, pretty appropriate value.

J-Spoon wrote:
14. Indy Mavunga (by product of scouting someone else at the same school with someone with a shared last name already on the team)


Crafty.

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15. Conn Scaife (Scaife and Brown bad luck for Banham)


Are you saying MIN might get Banham for free? Shocked

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16. Atl S. Thomas (back up for Angel)


Good match. Neither can hit the three.
I actually kinda like Thomas for Laimbeer. Built like a bull and not a great shooter.

J-Spoon wrote:
18. Dallas Pierre-Louis (out with the old OK Center in with the new)


This might be good reason for them to not take her.

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22. NY Butler (Well Stokes kind of worked, could Butler be Stokes 2.0)


Got room for her or is MIN getting Zahui for free too? Cool



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I'm limiting myself to two more so I don't get carried away.

Shades I knew you would like the Minny picks, but they also make sense. Minn needs some guards and bench scoring, and a big. And it never hurts to bring in some local talent in the later rounds, and Wagner could sneak into the 12th spot.

Of course I also think if Conn gets a good guard or two in their first two picks (Nurse, Atkins, Scaife, Vivians, Brown) Banham could actually be cut (Conn is also short on roster spot especially if Romero also comes over) then you would have to decide between Banham and Wagner.

I'm torn on Zahui B in NY, this could be her come through year, I doubt The Liberty give her away for free, but we did bring in a couple of training camp post already, if we get another decent post in round 1 or 2 someone has to go, if the team still had Laimbeer I'd think we at least get a future 2nd rounder for her from Minny, or even pick #17 this year. ATM I'm assuming NY goes with 4 or 5 posts, or 4.5 post with someone who can swing between the 3 and 4 like Ibekwe, and I think Zahui B has a loose hold on that 4th post spot. That and I think our first round pick has a much better chance than our second round pick of making the team. Now if we go post first round like Billings or Russell, though I'm ot high on Russell ATM Zahui B might be a little more at risk, If we go gaurd such as Canada, Nurse or Atkins it L. Allen (or the longer shot of Boyd) who is at risk, if we go wing Nared, Vivians, S. Thomas it would be R. Allen at risk, but I'm still think last years squad at the first round pick are the front runners in NY, for a camp contract or 2nd round pick it will be tough, with L. Allen, R. Allen and Zahui B as the one's who lose their spot.

I also thought my picks for Chicago were pretty bold and it doesn't look bad when you map it out either.

Sloot/Faulkner
Quigley/Nurse
Copper/Vivians/Hooper
Dolson/N'Dour/Bulgak
Coates/Parker

Not overwhelming star power but depth, size and versatility.


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Is a Big Board really a 'board' when it has the desperate click-begging technique of putting one pick on each page?



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Is a Big Board really a 'board' when it has the desperate click-begging technique of putting one pick on each page?


Big Flipboard.



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FIRST ROUND
1. Las Vegas Aces: A’ja Wilson, 6/5 F/C South Carolina
2. Indiana Fever: Kelsey Mitchell, 5’8 G Ohio State
3. Chicago Sky: Diamond DeShields, 6’1 F Tennessee
4. Chicago Sky: Gabby Williams, 5’11 F Connecticut
5. Seattle Storm: Lexie Brown, 5’9 G Duke
6. Dallas Wings: Mercedes Russell 6’6 C Tennessee
7. Washington Mystics: Maria Vadeeva, 6’3 C Russia
8. Phoenix Mercury: Jordin Canada, 5’6 G UCLA
9. Connecticut Sun: Kia Nurse 6′ G Connecticut
10. New York Liberty: Monique Billings, 6’4 F UCLA
11. Los Angeles Sparks: Jaime Nared, 6’2 G/F Tennessee
12. Minnesota Lynx: Stephanie Mavunga 6’3 F/C Ohio State

SECOND ROUND
13. Las Vegas: Ariel Atkins 5’11 G/F Texas
14. Indiana: Tyler Scaife, 5’9 G Rutgers
15. Connecticut: Victoria Vivians, 6’1 F, Mississippi State
16. Atlanta: Katelynn Flaherty 5’7 G Michigan
17. Minnesota: Ke’Shunan James 6’1 G/F Murray State
18. Dallas: Morgan William 5’5 G Mississippi State
19. Washington: Shakayla Thomas 5’11 F Florida State
20. Phoenix: Marie Gulich 6’5 C Oregon State
21. Phoenix: Rebecca Greenwell 6’1 G/F Duke
22. New York: Vionise Pierre-Louis 6’4 C Oklahoma
23. Los Angeles: Taeler Deer 5’5 G Texas State
24. Minnesota: Brook McCarty 5’4 G Texas



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Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?



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Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?


Who says they are thinking. Perhaps they are just throwing darts at a draft board.



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Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?


Who says they are thinking. Perhaps they are just throwing darts at a draft board.


I have Atlanta taking the best available player.



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Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?


My question is why does everyone show a possibly useful player going at 15 (Vivians or Nared) or 17 (Russell) but never at 16?



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Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?


My question is why does everyone show a possibly useful player going at 15 (Vivians or Nared) or 17 (Russell) but never at 16?


Idea Idea



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Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?


Who says they are thinking. Perhaps they are just throwing darts at a draft board.


I have Atlanta taking the best available player.


I’m not sure how you determine best player, but do you really visualize Flaherty as a WNBA player? If Tori Jankoska was the first cut for Chicago, Flaherty will be cut before she even shows up for camp.



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I have Atl taking S. Thomas it map out pretty well

Clarendon/R. Montgomery
Hayes/Sykes/Lucas
McCoughtry/S. Thomas
Breland/Dantas/Elonu
E. Williams/Stafford-McGhee

#16 is a hard place to pick, someone decent can fall, but the most useful players will be gone, if you want size that makes it even harder. I think Russell falling to 16 is unlikely so you'll be looking at maybe Mavunga, but more likely Gulich, Hines-Allen, Jensen, Pierre-Louis it is a little more likely that a decent guard/wing could fall to 16 Scaife, S. Thomas, Atkins, Nared but most likely you're looking at the best of the smaller guards, a less known quantity T. James, I. Wright, Muldrow or a second to third tier post.

If all the more known names are gone, who would Atl fans want at #16?




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Shades wrote:
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jap wrote:
pilight wrote:
Why does everyone think Atlanta needs a small guard, or any kind of guard?


Who says they are thinking. Perhaps they are just throwing darts at a draft board.


I have Atlanta taking the best available player.


I’m not sure how you determine best player, but do you really visualize Flaherty as a WNBA player? If Tori Jankoska was the first cut for Chicago, Flaherty will be cut before she even shows up for camp.

True 100%. The league is getting bigger and more athletic with every new season. There are no room for smurfs.



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I have Atl taking S. Thomas it map out pretty well


I think she’s a decent match for ATL. How do ATL fans feel about her?



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I have Atl taking S. Thomas it map out pretty well


I think she’s a decent match for ATL. How do ATL fans feel about her?


Adding another non shooter seems like ATL's style !



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I have Atl taking S. Thomas it map out pretty well


I think she’s a decent match for ATL. How do ATL fans feel about her?


I'm ok with S. Thomas. I even kind of like her.

I think S. Thomas and Nared are probably the best players the Dream have some chance of actually getting. I'd say it 1 in 3 Thomas is available and 1 in 5 for Nared. Either would fill a need for backing up Angel maybe 10 minutes a game. So I was ok with the Thomas pick. I was really just grousing about some of the other mocks. One had Russell at 17 (with Dream passing), another Nared at 15 and Toad had Vivians at 15. Kind of like a few years ago when Imani and the Tiffany Mitchell went right before the Dream pick. Just for the record, I don't think Russell, Nared or Vivians go into round 2 (though Nared certainly seems like she is trying to get there at times.)



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Yeah, I feel like Nared is in a slump or she is actually trying too hard (if that is possible) and it is hurting her game. A couple good games in the tourny and she is back in the first round, a couple more bad ones and she falls to mid/late second round and might end up as that player who fell too low for how good she could be.


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