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other then Liz and Ann how many foreign players get drafted and miss a bunch of seasons? Maybe Vadeeva is looking forward to playing in the WNBA and will show up often, I would take her over Kia in a heartbeat.


WNBA teams have mostly stopped taking non-Aussie foreigners at the top of the draft. Last year the highest drafted one was Lisa Berkani, who never came over. In 2016 it was Julie Allemand, who never came over. In 2015 it was Žofia Hruščáková, who never came over. In 2014 it was Astou Ndour, who has played every other season. In 2013 it was Emma Meesseman, winner! Of course Diandra Tchatchouang was taken with the very next pick and has not come over. In 2012 it was Astan Dabo, who never came over. In 2011 it was Sara Krnjić, who never came over. In 2010 it was Tijana Krivačević, who never came over. In 2009 it was Jelena Milovanović, who never came over. In 2008 none were drafted. That's 10 years of drafts and the batting average for just getting them to show up is .150.



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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
other then Liz and Ann how many foreign players get drafted and miss a bunch of seasons? Maybe Vadeeva is looking forward to playing in the WNBA and will show up often, I would take her over Kia in a heartbeat.


WNBA teams have mostly stopped taking non-Aussie foreigners at the top of the draft. Last year the highest drafted one was Lisa Berkani, who never came over. In 2016 it was Julie Allemand, who never came over. In 2015 it was Žofia Hruščáková, who never came over. In 2014 it was Astou Ndour, who has played every other season. In 2013 it was Emma Meesseman, winner! Of course Diandra Tchatchouang was taken with the very next pick and has not come over. In 2012 it was Astan Dabo, who never came over. In 2011 it was Sara Krnjić, who never came over. In 2010 it was Tijana Krivačević, who never came over. In 2009 it was Jelena Milovanović, who never came over. In 2008 none were drafted. That's 10 years of drafts and the batting average for just getting them to show up is .150.


How many of the players listed were not only taken in the 1st round, or even talked about as lottery picks?
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
other then Liz and Ann how many foreign players get drafted and miss a bunch of seasons? Maybe Vadeeva is looking forward to playing in the WNBA and will show up often, I would take her over Kia in a heartbeat.


WNBA teams have mostly stopped taking non-Aussie foreigners at the top of the draft. Last year the highest drafted one was Lisa Berkani, who never came over. In 2016 it was Julie Allemand, who never came over. In 2015 it was Žofia Hruščáková, who never came over. In 2014 it was Astou Ndour, who has played every other season. In 2013 it was Emma Meesseman, winner! Of course Diandra Tchatchouang was taken with the very next pick and has not come over. In 2012 it was Astan Dabo, who never came over. In 2011 it was Sara Krnjić, who never came over. In 2010 it was Tijana Krivačević, who never came over. In 2009 it was Jelena Milovanović, who never came over. In 2008 none were drafted. That's 10 years of drafts and the batting average for just getting them to show up is .150.


How many of the players listed were not only taken in the 1st round, or even talked about as lottery picks?


Astan Dabo was the only one taken in the first round, because WNBA teams learned from earlier drafts that such players cannot be relied on. What makes anyone think Vadeeva is any more likely to come over than all the rest of the no-show Eastern Europeans we've seen?



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BS she got more calls than any player in the PAC. Of course you are a homer, I am not defending Stanford I am talking about the whole PAC Laughing Plus when she didn't get a call she acted like a diva and threw elbows and Neighbors whined like a B....tch and apparently a lot more according to the fans of opposing teams as demonstrated by some posters on here. How'd she do down the stretch there in the NCAA.... oh thats right Osahor and Walton were carrying the team.


Oh, I totally agree about Osahor and Walton. Osahor, after all, was the MVP of the region. Very Happy

I know you were just taking the opportunity to call BS on the foul calls she did receive, but the fact is that free throws had nothing to do with her increase in scoring average. She actually attempted (slightly) fewer free throws per game her senior year compared to her junior year. So she increased her average by 6 points without attempting more shots, field goals or free throws.

Also, there was that time when the refs deemed this as a legal defensive maneuver by Samuelson. The ensuing contact, when Plum pulled her arm free, was a violation by Plum. Razz


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Anyway...Mitchell has increased her scoring average a couple of points. Her shooting percentages, rebounding, and assists are all slightly up from last season. She will also likely benefit from coming out of a stronger draft class and not having the same kind of expectations. So much, of course, will still depend on which team and coach she lands with, like most rookies.


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well that's clearly Plum's fault. Why'd she get her arm in there into Karlie's space. Wink



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The ensuing contact, when Plum pulled her arm free, was a violation by Plum. Razz


I think the violation was for licking an opponent's elbow.



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The ensuing contact, when Plum pulled her arm free, was a violation by Plum. Razz


I think the violation was for licking an opponent's elbow.


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Even though she got bogus calls in college, they certainly haven’t allowed them in the WNBA.


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Dee Brown coached in the W, so he should have some idea what it takes to make it.


Two years at two different teams, I’m guessing with little success. Not much of a resume to support your assertion.


What does coaching success (in only two years with two different teams) have to do with judging whether someone has WNBA level talent?


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pilight wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
pilight wrote:
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
other then Liz and Ann how many foreign players get drafted and miss a bunch of seasons? Maybe Vadeeva is looking forward to playing in the WNBA and will show up often, I would take her over Kia in a heartbeat.


WNBA teams have mostly stopped taking non-Aussie foreigners at the top of the draft. Last year the highest drafted one was Lisa Berkani, who never came over. In 2016 it was Julie Allemand, who never came over. In 2015 it was Žofia Hruščáková, who never came over. In 2014 it was Astou Ndour, who has played every other season. In 2013 it was Emma Meesseman, winner! Of course Diandra Tchatchouang was taken with the very next pick and has not come over. In 2012 it was Astan Dabo, who never came over. In 2011 it was Sara Krnjić, who never came over. In 2010 it was Tijana Krivačević, who never came over. In 2009 it was Jelena Milovanović, who never came over. In 2008 none were drafted. That's 10 years of drafts and the batting average for just getting them to show up is .150.


How many of the players listed were not only taken in the 1st round, or even talked about as lottery picks?


Astan Dabo was the only one taken in the first round, because WNBA teams learned from earlier drafts that such players cannot be relied on. What makes anyone think Vadeeva is any more likely to come over than all the rest of the no-show Eastern Europeans we've seen?


In 2009, Jelena Milovanovič was drafted 24th and played for the Mystics in 2014, Sonja Petrovič was drafted 26th and played for Phoenix and Chicago in 2012 and 2016. Of course Alba Torrens was drafted that year as well (but 36th!) and never showed up. But these are late picks, not first round.

Yes, euros do not show up very often or they decide to come for a year or two later in their careers but I think you need to consider that they are 19 or 20 when they are drafted. That's a big difference from US players.
I would only consider taking a European player in the first round in a very weak draft. Or she would have to be a superstar. I can't really think of anyone like that in past ten years. And still wouldn't use a lottery pick on her. Even though I think Vadeeva might be interested to play in WNBA more regularly, I do not think she would be a better choice than any US post player who is considered to go in first round.

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PostPosted: 02/16/18 9:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Whoever drafts the highly overrated Mercedes Russell are going to waste their draft pick. Total bust in the WNBA. Such a lazy lackluster player. Always has been.


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This is about a junior so don’t get too excited about her this year. There’s a WNBA mention in the article.

Carmen Grande: Ball State's new all-time assist leader

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Some just see the flashy point guard, second in the NCAA in assists per game with 9.5 on the now 20-4 Cardinals team, but Ball State women’s head basketball coach Brady Sallee knows that she's so much more than that.

“You’re talking about a kid that single-handedly has changed our approach to offense,” said Sallee. “You hear coaches all the time talk about players that can make other players better. She does that.”


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If all this wasn't enough, she is getting attention from multiple professional coaches. Sallee said it is an eye-opening experience when WNBA coaches call to talk about how good Grande is.



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Keep in mind Grande is a Junior. That being said there aren't many good Point Guard prospects in that class; if she has a Vandersloot-esque Senior year, she could end up proving herself the best of the bunch. They sure do teach 'em how to pass over there in Spain!


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bcdawg04's pic above of Kelsey Plum

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Marie Gulich with a huge game against Billings....



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Tyra Buss scores 37 pts on her Senior Day




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At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.



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I’m really liking Jespersen as an under the radar 6’3 SF.
Probably 6’2 actual and might be able to use her in the post on occasion.
Unfortunately, there’s a decent crop of SF in this draft but my team really doesn’t need one.



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Maria Jespersen is neither 6-3 nor an SF. She's listed at 6-0 and plays PF, which explains why she's under the radar. I seem to remember her even backing up at center early in her career. Now, can Jesperson convert to SF? She does have some range on her shot, but defense would be a challenge and probably ballhandling would be too.



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Any W experts think Tanaya Atkinson of Temple has a shot at getting a look from a team? She really is a good player.




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At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.


Russell is definitely a first rounder. Then there's Vadeeva, who is the big wrench in this year's draft.



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At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.


Russell is definitely a first rounder. Then there's Vadeeva, who is the big wrench in this year's draft.


yeah, I know nothing about Vadeeva other than what has been written here. Russell IMO is very late first rounder at best. She's big, but that's about all...



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myrtle wrote:
At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.


Russell is definitely a first rounder. Then there's Vadeeva, who is the big wrench in this year's draft.


yeah, I know nothing about Vadeeva other than what has been written here. Russell IMO is very late first rounder at best. She's big, but that's about all...


I agree with the comment you left in the USC/Oregon St. game thread. I think Gulich is better than Russell as well. Even though that might not be saying much.


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At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.


Russell is definitely a first rounder. Then there's Vadeeva, who is the big wrench in this year's draft.


yeah, I know nothing about Vadeeva other than what has been written here. Russell IMO is very late first rounder at best. She's big, but that's about all...


As always, the draft is relative. While there may not be any posts other than Wilson who look that exciting, can you think of 11 perimeter players who are "sure things"? This draft just isn't as good as most of us thought it would be. Except for Vivians, and maybe Nurse, no one has clearly stepped up while quite a few players have declined from their previous season.



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Oops, I’m not sure where I got 6’3 for Jespersen, but she definitely looks a bit taller than 6’. And SF is where I’m projecting her. Rebounds well, facilitates, scores, shooting .353 from three. Definitely worth a shot for somebody.



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At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.


Russell is definitely a first rounder. Then there's Vadeeva, who is the big wrench in this year's draft.


yeah, I know nothing about Vadeeva other than what has been written here. Russell IMO is very late first rounder at best. She's big, but that's about all...


Are you trying to talk Russell down to #13 for Laimbeer? He thanks you.
Russell needs to toughen up, but I think Reeve would love her face up game.



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myrtle wrote:
At this point I don't see any true bigs in the first round except Wilson. Otherwise the teams might as well wait til the 2nd round to roll the dice. None of them are sure things.


Russell is definitely a first rounder. Then there's Vadeeva, who is the big wrench in this year's draft.


yeah, I know nothing about Vadeeva other than what has been written here. Russell IMO is very late first rounder at best. She's big, but that's about all...


Are you trying to talk Russell down to #13 for Laimbeer? He thanks you.
Russell needs to toughen up, but I think Reeve would love her face up game.


good. you can have her. Laughing I'm guessing someone will take a runner on her before that, but unless something changes, they won't have much beyond an end of the bench warmer or somebody who can come in and pick up a couple of fouls quickly.



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Any W experts think Tanaya Atkinson of Temple has a shit at getting a look from a team? She really is a good player.


im with you on this, another under the radar player, she's so strong, very athletic, can rebound. she's leading the AAC in points per game.

and agree with Shades on Jespersen, i love watching her play, she's kinda like Cunningham type player From Missouri but Cunningham is more ruthless in a good way lol love her energy/toughness

another note that girl Louis from LSU is really good. it would not surprise me if she sneaks up into the first round if she has a Big SEC Tournament


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Atkinson is a lot of fun to watch. She's been huge for them this year without Butts. If she has a big AAC tournament, she might sneak into the draft.



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Any W experts think Tanaya Atkinson of Temple has a shot at getting a look from a team? She really is a good player.


I am not nearly as high on Atkinson as others. Atkinson had a very good non-conference season averaging nearly 23 points and 11 rebounds per game. However when she went up against Aja Wilson she was badly intimidated and didn't seem to be the same afterwards. Her scoring and rebounds fell off to 20 and 7 in conference. In the 3 games against Connecticut and South Carolina she only 11.3 point and 4.7 rebounds while shooting 12-41 (29%).

I agree she may have been more effective with some support, but her size (6-0) and lack of an outside shot (46-173 3pt for her career 26%) make her a distinct longshot. I doubt she will be drafted.


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Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...



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Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...



With what seems to be a shortage of PGs in the league, Canada & Lexie Brown are locks for the first round. Canada or Brown likely land at #5 in Seattle. The other lands in either Washington or Phoenix.



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Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...


This is a one-game assessment, so any chance that if you would have tuned into a game where she didn’t play well, you would have declared her not a WNBA PG?

And since when did size suddenly become a non-issue for the WNBA?

I feel kinda bad for Laimbeer. Here’s somebody who has always loved size in all positions. Now he has the smallest PG in the league... who is arguably banged up because of that lack of size, and he also has a wannabe PG who lacks height and prefers to shoot. Are either of these players in his vision for the future?



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Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...



With what seems to be a shortage of PGs in the league, Canada & Lexie Brown are locks for the first round. Canada or Brown likely land at #5 in Seattle. The other lands in either Washington or Phoenix.


Seattle should take Canada , Lexie is great but Canada & JB can be a great combo



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Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...


Don't you think she should have been driving more and dumping off passes for lay ups, it's not like Oregon can move laterally and she has the speed?


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Any W experts think Tanaya Atkinson of Temple has a shot at getting a look from a team? She really is a good player.


I am not nearly as high on Atkinson as others. Atkinson had a very good non-conference season averaging nearly 23 points and 11 rebounds per game. However when she went up against Aja Wilson she was badly intimidated and didn't seem to be the same afterwards. Her scoring and rebounds fell off to 20 and 7 in conference. In the 3 games against Connecticut and South Carolina she only 11.3 point and 4.7 rebounds while shooting 12-41 (29%).

I agree she may have been more effective with some support, but her size (6-0) and lack of an outside shot (46-173 3pt for her career 26%) make her a distinct longshot. I doubt she will be drafted.


Hmmm, Atkinson was listed at 5-9 as a freshman and the NCAA Career Statistics app still has her at 5-9. But sure enough, the Temple website now shows Tanaya at 6-0. I haven't seen her much -- mostly against UConn which tends to make opponents (even stars) look like fodder. What position does Atkinson play? 6-0 at SG and SF would be good. 6-0 at PF would be bad. 5-9 would be short for 3 & 4, smallish for 2. But I agree with calbearman76. Being from a mid-major school is one strike against her. If she's a SG or SF, then not being able to shoot 3's is another strike. This is before we even get to height. So, any way you slice it, Atkinson has at least two strikes against her and maybe three.



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Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...


i've been trying to tell you but you wouldn't listen lol welcome to the Canada Train Wink


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ClayK wrote:
Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...


This is a one-game assessment, so any chance that if you would have tuned into a game where she didn’t play well, you would have declared her not a WNBA PG?

And since when did size suddenly become a non-issue for the WNBA?

I feel kinda bad for Laimbeer. Here’s somebody who has always loved size in all positions. Now he has the smallest PG in the league... who is arguably banged up because of that lack of size, and he also has a wannabe PG who lacks height and prefers to shoot. Are either of these players in his vision for the future?


Not sure I'd say Moriah is banged up with a knee because of her size.

If Laimbeer is as good a coach as people think, he'll make adjustments to fit his roster, he always has.

May be before some people's time, but Kedra Holland-Corn was a fave of Bill's coming off the bench in Detroit, all 5'8 and 129 pounds of her.


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Shades wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Watched Jordin Canada against Oregon, and my concerns about her shooting are gone. Her only issue is size, but that's minor. She's a WNBA point guard ...


This is a one-game assessment, so any chance that if you would have tuned into a game where she didn’t play well, you would have declared her not a WNBA PG?

And since when did size suddenly become a non-issue for the WNBA?

I feel kinda bad for Laimbeer. Here’s somebody who has always loved size in all positions. Now he has the smallest PG in the league... who is arguably banged up because of that lack of size, and he also has a wannabe PG who lacks height and prefers to shoot. Are either of these players in his vision for the future?


This isn't exactly a one-game assessment since I've watched her since she was a sophomore in high school. I had one major concern about her game at the WNBA level, which has been alleviated -- and not just by her three-point shooting percentage. It was the quickness of her release of those shots, and her willingness to take them in big moments that impressed me as well.

You know, other people do pay attention to the sport ...



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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
other then Liz and Ann how many foreign players get drafted and miss a bunch of seasons? Maybe Vadeeva is looking forward to playing in the WNBA and will show up often, I would take her over Kia in a heartbeat.


WNBA teams have mostly stopped taking non-Aussie foreigners at the top of the draft. Last year the highest drafted one was Lisa Berkani, who never came over. In 2016 it was Julie Allemand, who never came over. In 2015 it was Žofia Hruščáková, who never came over. In 2014 it was Astou Ndour, who has played every other season. In 2013 it was Emma Meesseman, winner! Of course Diandra Tchatchouang was taken with the very next pick and has not come over. In 2012 it was Astan Dabo, who never came over. In 2011 it was Sara Krnjić, who never came over. In 2010 it was Tijana Krivačević, who never came over. In 2009 it was Jelena Milovanović, who never came over. In 2008 none were drafted. That's 10 years of drafts and the batting average for just getting them to show up is .150.


I understand the concerns about foreign players and having them miss time due to overseas/national team commitments or sitting out in WC and Olympic years.

But there are a decent number of American-born WNBA players who have obtained citizenship in other countries to play for those countries' respective national teams who would have to miss time in certain seasons (and who have done so) for national team obligations.


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PostPosted: 02/22/18 4:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Has to be a Blockbuster trade coming down the pike soon from somewhere...


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Has to be a Blockbuster trade coming down the pike soon from somewhere...


What makes you think that??



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my current still-too-early thoughts:

1. Las Vegas A’ja Wilson
2. Indiana Diamond DeShields
3. Chicago Kelsey Mitchell
4. Chicago Gabby Williams
5. Seattle Jordin Canada
6. Dallas Victoria Vivians
7. Washington Lexie Brown
8. Phoenix Maria Vadeeva
9. Connecticut Kia Nurse
10. New York Mercedes Russell
11. Los Angeles Shakayla Thomas
12. Minnesota Stephanie Mavunga (Billings?)

13. Las Vegas Ariel Atkins
14. Indiana Marie Gulich
15. Connecticut Jaime Nared
16. Atlanta Teana Muldrow
17. Seattle Vionise Pierre-Louis (or some other big – Billings? Jensen?
18. Dallas Myisha Hines-Allen
19. Washington Brittany McPhee
20. Phoenix AJ Alix
21. Connecticut Natalie Butler
22. New York Brook McCarty
23. Los Angeles Morgan William
24. Minnesota Loryn Goodwin



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Looking at your draft Myrtle I have Russell going much higher in mine and yet ironically I'm very meh feeling about her falling to NY at #10.

I do like some of the new names you have in your draft as well.

One note you have Billings in some of your side option brackets but technically if she isn't a side option you have her falling out of the first two rounds, do you see that as a possibility?


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Not feeling Mavunga at #12.

If free agency is done for Minnesota (not sure it can be), they’re going to have to focus on guards. They have enough posts to get by, so why potentially waste it on a mediocre post that’ll probably get cut. Now if Vadeeva or Russell falls to #12, that’s another story. Under your scenario, you didn’t leave the Lynx a first round worthy guard. They might actually have to take Atkins, but maybe they will go mediocre post if they’re feeling good about guards in the later picks.

#17 is owned by Minnesota now thanks to the brilliance of Reeve. I like Goodwin enough that I might consider taking her there. But if Kenisha Bell should enter the draft early, I think the Lynx might take her there. She’s like a little bigger and stronger version of Jefferson. She’s very under the radar but Reeve watches her all the time.

#24 Gotta be CW if she lasts this long. Totally deserving.



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J-Spoon wrote:


One note you have Billings in some of your side option brackets but technically if she isn't a side option you have her falling out of the first two rounds, do you see that as a possibility?


I'm guessing Billings will be taken in the first two rounds but exactly where is a mystery to me. Having watched her quite a bit in the P12, she has definitely improved a lot from Freshman to Senior... but still to me isn't quite a W level player. Admittedly I have a pet peeve about posts who shoot shitty from the FT line, so that may increase my bias. But in general it seems like she struggles a bit against true bigs. She is a tenacious rebounder, but scoring and defending will both be a problem for her next level IMO. She's probably a bit smaller than GloJo but I would say that could be her ceiling - and if she got there, obviously she could help a team, but I think it will take a lot of patience to get there, and patience is usually hard to find on a W team. I think she and Mavunga have quite a bit in common, but I haven't watched Mavunga nearly as much so she's more of a mystery to me. The B1G people should have better insight there.

And yeah, as I said before, I continue to be underwhelmed by Russell but size alone will likely get her taken in the first round.



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PostPosted: 02/23/18 1:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

For New York, I can live with Russell, Nared or Billings among realistic choices. At this point, I agree that Vivians and Nurse are not making it down to #10.

At #22, I really like Kristy Wallace who has length, speed, shooting range and can play both backcourt positions. I'm really skeptical about Brook McCarty. A lot of short players at least look strong. McCarty just looks tiny out there.



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