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Posted: 04/13/17 9:06 pm ::: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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ATLANTA DREAM:
1: Layshia Clarendon / Matee Ajavon / Brianna Kiesel / Darxia Morris
2: Tiffany Hayes / Brittney Sykes / Meighan Simmons / Nirra Fields
3: Bria Holmes / Rachel Jarry / Whitney Knight / Jordan Reynolds
4: Sancho Lyttle / Aneika Morello / Oderah Chidom / Sarah Imovbioh
5: Elizabeth Williams / Damiris Dantas / Markeisha Gatling / Rachel Hollivay
INA: Angel McCoughtry
CHICAGO SKY:
1: Courtney Vandersloot / Jamierra Faulkner / Makayla Epps
2: Cappie Pondexter / Allie Quigley / Tori Jankoska
3: Tamera Young / Kahleah Copper / Betnijah Laney / Rebekah Gardner
4: Stefanie Dolson / Jessica Breland / Chantel Osahor / Amber Harris
5: Imani Boyette / Astou Ndour / Cheyenne Parker
INA: Alaina Coates
CONNECTICUT SUN:
1: Jasmine Thomas / Letecia Romero / Rachel Banham / Jessica January
2: Alex Bentley / Courtney Williams / Kelly Faris
3: Alyssa Thomas / Shekinna Stricklen / Shayla Cooper
4: Jonquel Jones / Morgan Tuck / Reshanda Gray / Kayla Pedersen
5: Lynetta Kizer / Brionna Jones / Danielle Adams / Jennifer Hamson
INA: Chiney Ogwumike
DALLAS WINGS:
1: Skylar Diggins-Smith / Erin Phillips / Tiffany Bias
2: Aerial Powers / Allisha Gray / Saniya Chong
3: Karima Christmas-Kelly / Kaela Davis / Jordan Hooper
4: Glory Johnson / Evelyn Akhator / Theresa Plaisance / Kayla Thornton
5: Courtney Paris / Ruth Hamblin / Breanna Lewis
INDIANA FEVER:
1: Briann January / Erica Wheeler / Feyonda Fitzgerald / Adrienne Motley
2: Tiffany Mitchell / Maggie Lucas / Jeanette Pohlen-Mavunga
3: Shenise Johnson / Marissa Coleman / Erica McCall / Ronni Williams
4: Candice Dupree / Devereaux Peters / Bashaara Graves / Victoria Macaulay
5: Erlana Larkins / Natalie Achonwa / Nadia Colhado / Shanece McKinney
LOS ANGELES SPARKS:
1: Odyssey Sims / Chelsea Gray / Chelsea Hopkins / Aundrea Gamble
2: Alana Beard / Riquna Williams / Jamie Weisner
3: Essence Carson / Sydney Wiese / Mikaela Ruef
4: Nneka Ogwumike / Tiffany Jackson-Jones / Ify Ibekwe
5: Candace Parker / Jantel Lavender / Avery Warley-Talbert / Saicha Grant-Allen
MINNESOTA LYNX:
1: Lindsay Whalen / Renee Montgomery / Anna Cruz
2: Seimone Augustus / Alexis Jones
3: Maya Moore / Jia Perkins
4: Rebekkah Brunson / Natasha Howard / Keisha Hampton
5: Sylvia Fowles / Plenette Pierson / Temi Fagbenle
INA: Lisa Berkani / Tahlia Tupaea
NEW YORK LIBERTY:
1: Bria Hartley / Brittany Boyd / Lindsay Allen
2: Sugar Rodgers / Epiphanny Prince / Shoni Schimmel
3: Rebecca Allen / Shavonte Zellous / Ameryst Alston / Shacobia Barbee
4: Tina Charles / Amanda Zahui B / Cierra Burdick / Nayo Raincock-Ekwune
5: Kiah Stokes / Kia Vaughn / Kai James
INA: Tanisha Wright
PHOENIX MERCURY:
1: Danielle Robinson / Leilani Mitchell / Yvonne Turner
2: Diana Taurasi / Shay Murphy / Stephanie Talbot
3: Alex Harden / Alexis Prince / Danielle McCray
4: Camille Little / Emma Cannon / Katherine Plouffe
5: Brittney Griner / Cayla George / Jillian Alleyne
SAN ANTONIO STARS:
1: Moriah Jefferson / Kelsey Plum / Jazmon Gwathmey
2: Kayla McBride / Roneeka Hodges / Alex Montgomery / Sequoia Holmes
3: Monique Currie / Nia Coffey / Haley Peters / Courtney Williams
4: Clarissa dos Santos / Dearica Hamby / Adut Bulgak / Schaquilla Nunn
5: Kayla Alexander / Isabelle Harrison / Erika de Souza / Vicki Baugh
SEATTLE STORM:
1: Sue Bird / Alexis Peterson / Jennifer O'Neill
2: Jewell Loyd / Noelle Quinn / Sami Whitcomb
3: Alysha Clark / Jenna O'Hea / Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis
4: Breanna Stewart / Ramu Tokashiki / Nikki Greene
5: Carolyn Swords / Crystal Langhorne / Lanay Montgomery
WASHINGTON MYSTICS:
1: Kristi Toliver / Ivory Latta / Natasha Cloud
2: Tayler Hill / Tierra Ruffin-Pratt / Jennie Simms
3: Shatori Walker-Kimbrough / Ally Malott / Mehryn Kraker
4: Elena Delle Donne / Tianna Hawkins / Asia Taylor
5: Emma Meesseman / LaToya Sanders / Krystal Thomas
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Posted: 04/14/17 3:01 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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CHICAGO SKY:
1: Courtney Vandersloot / Jamierra Faulkner / Makayla Epps
2: Cappie Pondexter / Allie Quigley / Tori Jankoska
3: Tamera Young / Kahleah Copper / Betnijah Laney / Rebekah Gardner
4: Stefanie Dolson / Jessica Breland / Chantel Osahor
5: Imani Boyette / Cheyenne Parker / Amber Harris
INA: Alaina Coates / Astou Ndour
Reports: Astou Ndour will miss the 2017 season |
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Posted: 04/14/17 3:09 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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CONNECTICUT SUN:
1: Jasmine Thomas / Rachel Banham / Jessica January
2: Alex Bentley / Courtney Williams / Kelly Faris
3: Alyssa Thomas / Shekinna Stricklen / Shayla Cooper
4: Jonquel Jones / Morgan Tuck / Reshanda Gray / Kayla Pedersen
5: Lynetta Kizer / Brionna Jones / Danielle Adams / Jennifer Hamson
INA: Chiney Ogwumike / Letecia Romero
Reports: Letecia Romero will sit out the 2017 to focus with the Spanish national team |
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Posted: 04/14/17 3:26 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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LOS ANGELES SPARKS:
1: Odyssey Sims / Chelsea Gray / Chelsea Hopkins / Aundrea Gamble
2: Alana Beard / Riquna Williams / Jamie Weisner
3: Essence Carson / Sydney Wiese / Nina Davis
4: Nneka Ogwumike / Tiffany Jackson-Jones / Mikaela Ruef / Ify Ibekwe
5: Candace Parker / Jantel Lavender / Avery Warley-Talbert / Saicha Grant-Allen
Signed Nina Davis to a training camp contract |
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Posted: 04/14/17 3:33 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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PHOENIX MERCURY:
1: Danielle Robinson / Leilani Mitchell / Yvonne Turner
2: Diana Taurasi / Shay Murphy / Stephanie Talbot
3: Alex Harden / Alexis Prince / Danielle McCray
4: Camille Little / Emma Cannon / Katherine Plouffe /Sophie Brunner
5: Brittney Griner / Cayla George / Jillian Alleyne
Signed Sophie Brunner to a training camp contract |
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Posted: 04/14/17 7:44 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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basketballologist wrote: |
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CHICAGO SKY:
1: Courtney Vandersloot / Jamierra Faulkner / Makayla Epps
2: Cappie Pondexter / Allie Quigley / Tori Jankoska
3: Tamera Young / Kahleah Copper / Betnijah Laney / Rebekah Gardner
4: Stefanie Dolson / Jessica Breland / Chantel Osahor
5: Imani Boyette / Cheyenne Parker / Amber Harris
INA: Alaina Coates / Astou Ndour
Reports: Astou Ndour will miss the 2017 season |
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I believe Laney is under contract so there's another TC 4...coming off major injury tho...and they could have waived her without me (or anyone else) Noticing LOL
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Posted: 04/14/17 5:27 pm ::: |
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You might want to update for the Osahor/Hampton trade.
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Posted: 04/14/17 5:44 pm ::: |
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Ruth Hamblin is missing the entire 2017 season for the Wings to play for her canadian national team
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Posted: 04/14/17 9:14 pm ::: |
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Probable 2017 rosters:
ATLANTA DREAM:
PG: Clarendon/Kiesel
SG: Hayes/Ajavon/Sykes
SF: Holmes/Jarry
PF: Lyttle/Morello
C: Williams/Dantas/Gatling
Suspended: Angel McCoughtry
CHICAGO SKY:
PG: Vandersloot/Faulkner
SG: Pondexter/Quigley
SF: Young/Copper
PF: Dolson/Breland
C: Boyette/Parker
11th: Jankoska, Hampton or Laney
IR: Coates
Suspended: Ndour
CONNECTICUT SUN:
PG: J. Thomas/Banham
SG: Bentley/C. Williams
SF: A. Thomas/Stricklen/Tuck
PF: J. Jones/Adams/Gray
C: Kizer/B. Jones
IR: Chiney Ogwumike
DALLAS WINGS:
PG: Diggins/Phillips
SG: Christmas-Kelly/Davis
SF: Powers/Gray/Hooper
PF: Johnson/Akhator/Plaisance
C: Paris/Lewis
INDIANA FEVER:
PG: January/Wheeler
SG: S. Johnson/Mitchell/Lucas
SF: Coleman/R. Williams
PF: Dupree/Peters
C: Larkins/Achonwa
12th: McCall, McKinney or Colhado
LOS ANGELES SPARKS:
PG: Gray/Wiese
SG: Beard/R. Williams/Sims
SF: Carson/Dabovic
PF: N. Ogwumike/Jackson-Jones
C: Parker/Lavender/Warley-Talbert
MINNESOTA LYNX:
PG: Whalen/Jones/Cruz
SG: Augustus/Montgomery
SF: Moore /Perkins
PF: Brunson/Howard/Pierson
C: Fowles/Osahor
Suspended: Berkani/Tupaea
NEW YORK LIBERTY
PG: Prince/Boyd/Hartley
SG: Rodgers/Zellous
SF: Allen/Barbee
PF: Charles/Zahui B./Burdick
C: Vaughn/Stokes
PHOENIX MERCURY(w/o Petrovic, Xargay & Bone):
PG: Robinson/Mitchell
SG: Taurasi/Harden/Prince
SF: Murphy/Talbot
PF: Little/Alleyne/Cannon
C: Griner/George
SAN ANTONIO STARS:
PG: Jefferson/Plum
SG: McBride/Montgomery
SF: Currie/Coffey/Peters
PF: dos Santos/Harrison
C: Alexander/de Souza
12th: Bulgak, Hamby or Baugh
SEATTLE STORM:
PG: Bird/Peterson
SG: Loyd/Quinn/Whitcomb
SF: Clark/O'Hea/Mosqueda-Lewis
PF: Stewart/Tokashiki
C: Swords/Langhorne
WASHINGTON MYSTICS:
PG: Toliver/Cloud
SG: Hill/Latta/Walker-Kimbrough
SF: Ruffin-Pratt/Taylor
PF: Delle Donne/Hawkins
C: Meesseman/Sanders/Thomas
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Posted: 04/14/17 9:38 pm ::: |
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Great work Toad!
I'm not convinced Barbee has the 12th spot in NY, I totally think Burdick has the 11th spot though.
I think everyone is still a possibility for the 12th spot. I'm growing fond of the go bigger concept with Burdick getting the 11th spot and Raincock-Ekunwe getting the 12th spot with one being transitioned into a full-time 3 while the other becomes the deep bench stretch 4 behind Charles and Zahui B.
If they don't go big I think the desire for another "real" PG gives Allen some hope, giving Alston another shot makes me think they might have regretted cutting her last season for instance they didn't invite back Bulgak, Hopkins or Orrange from last years camp, so an invite back might mean something, and if Schimmel's heart is still in it and she comes back in shape and fighting I wouldn't count her out, that's a big if but I feel like someone on the team wants her to succeed, just a feeling, but Shoni might actually have the best long range shot and handle on the team, she just needs to raise her defense from liability to mediocre, which might be a tall order. Granted Barbee has gotten the most praise from Laimbeer so she could be the one, but I think it is far from a done deal for the last spot.
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Posted: 04/16/17 8:13 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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DALLAS WINGS:
1: Skylar Diggins-Smith / Erin Phillips / Tiffany Bias
2: Aerial Powers / Allisha Gray / Saniya Chong
3: Karima Christmas-Kelly / Kaela Davis / Jordan Hooper
4: Glory Johnson / Theresa Plaisance / Kayla Thornton
5: Courtney Paris / Evelyn Akhator / Breanna Lewis
INA: Ruth Hamblin
Ruth Hamblin to skip the 2017 season to train with the Canadian National team.
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Posted: 04/16/17 8:16 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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MINNESOTA LYNX:
1: Lindsay Whalen / Renee Montgomery / Anna Cruz
2: Seimone Augustus / Alexis Jones
3: Maya Moore / Jia Perkins
4: Rebekkah Brunson / Natasha Howard / Chantel Osahor
5: Sylvia Fowles / Plenette Pierson / Temi Fagbenle
INA: Lisa Berkani / Tahlia Tupaea
Traded Keisha Hampton for Chantel Osahor
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Posted: 04/16/17 8:19 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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CHICAGO SKY:
1: Courtney Vandersloot / Jamierra Faulkner / Makayla Epps
2: Cappie Pondexter / Allie Quigley / Tori Jankoska
3: Tamera Young / Kahleah Copper / Betnijah Laney / Rebekah Gardner
4: Stefanie Dolson / Jessica Breland / Keisha Hampton
5: Imani Boyette / Cheyenne Parker / Amber Harris
INA: Alaina Coates / Astou Ndour
1. Reports: Astou Ndour will miss the 2017 season
2. Chantel Osahor traded for Keisha Hampton |
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Posted: 04/16/17 11:18 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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DALLAS WINGS:
1: Skylar Diggins-Smith / Erin Phillips / Tiffany Bias
2: Aerial Powers / Allisha Gray / Saniya Chong
3: Karima Christmas-Kelly / Kaela Davis / Jordan Hooper
4: Glory Johnson / Theresa Plaisance / Kayla Thornton
5: Courtney Paris / Evelyn Akhator / Breanna Lewis
INA: Ruth Hamblin
Ruth Hamblin to skip the 2017 season to train with the Canadian National team.
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So I'm never clear on who counts and who doesn't count wrt maximum roster size. Will Hamblin count this year or not? Do they need to shed three or four other players?
Can someone describe in 50 words or less the rules regarding when inactive players still count?
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basketballologist
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Posted: 04/16/17 11:41 am ::: |
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Im.under the impression she will be a reserved player
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Posted: 04/16/17 12:20 pm ::: |
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Hamblin's still under her rookie scale contract, so not reserved. But as she's essentially not going to show up, they can just suspend her. Doesn't count on the cap, or on the roster total of 11 or 12.
They could also just cut her. I'm yet to see why several people seem to have so much faith in these giant stiffs that have come out of school in recent years. |
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Posted: 04/16/17 1:31 pm ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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Can someone describe in 50 words or less the rules regarding when inactive players still count? |
More than 50 words, but I think I can be clear:
1) If you expect a player to come back this season, you use a temporary suspension. She doesn't get paid or occupy a roster spot until she returns. However, her entire annual salary hits the salary cap.
2) If the player is not expected to return this season, you use a full season suspension. Then you are free for the season: no salary, no roster spot, no salary cap hit. Once it's done, you cannot change your mind.
3) Sometimes teams keep an injured star player on the roster after an off-season injury. Either they want to keep the player happy or it's deemed that the origin of the injury was sustained while playing for the WNBA team. In that case, the player is officially active even though she can't play.
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Thank you.
The term "reserved player" seems often to be used. What is a "reserved player" in terms of who can be a reserved player, how does one become a reserved player, and does a reserved player count for any purpose?
Also, with a temporary suspension, are you saying the full annual salary counts against the salary cap even though only, say, half or less of that amount is actually paid? So the first dollar paid triggers the full annual contract amount counting against the cap?
Why would they do that, and how could you possibly backfill her roster spot during her absence? (And have both the absent and replacement player salaries count?)
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
The term "reserved player" seems often to be used. What is a "reserved player" in terms of who can be a reserved player, how does one become a reserved player, and does a reserved player count for any purpose? |
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Any Veteran Free Agent who has three (3) or fewer Years of Service on the first day of any Salary Cap Year will be a Reserved Player if her Prior Team makes a Reserved Qualifying Offer to the player |
If the team makes a qualifying offer, the player can only re-sign with that team. They're not allowed to negotiate with other teams.
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Posted: 04/16/17 3:03 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
Thank you.
The term "reserved player" seems often to be used. What is a "reserved player" in terms of who can be a reserved player, how does one become a reserved player, and does a reserved player count for any purpose?
Also, with a temporary suspension, are you saying the full annual salary counts against the salary cap even though only, say, half or less of that amount is actually paid? So the first dollar paid triggers the full annual contract amount counting against the cap?
Why would they do that, and how could you possibly backfill her roster spot during her absence? (And have both the absent and replacement player salaries count?) |
A reserved player is someone who's contract has expired, but has not accumulated enough time (4 yrs) to become a restricted free agent. Usually, it's a young player who was cut and subsequently signed with another team for one year or less. As long as your team makes a qualifying offer, you can't negotiate with anyone else. If they don't make the offer, then you become an unrestricted free agent.
For a temporary suspension, the full annual salary hits the cap immediately. That's the price you pay for having the flexibility of bringing the player back. Otherwise, no one would ever use the full year suspension. It doesn't matter when the player comes back. She's on the cap and already accounted for. Her return is only relevant to salary paid and roster spot.
Adding a temporary replacement is doable, but you have to manage the cap carefully. Last year, the Liberty had to replace Swin Cash with the cheaper Ameryst Alston to start the season. They were carrying the dead weight of Piph Prince's cap charge, and then they unexpectedly traded for Zahui B. As a former #2 pick, AZB made more money than most players on a rookie contract. The shortage was so small that NY could swap Cash back for Alston after only 3 games. Later, they freed some more cap space when they cut Lindsay Harding and replaced her with Rebecca Allen. So, as you can see, it can become very detailed. Sometimes, teams will simply go without a replacement because they can't scrounge up the money or because it's too much of a hassle.
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Reserved players are also often foreigners who went undrafted, and eventually signed 1 or 2 year contracts. When you sign like that as an undrafted free agent the salary can't go above the minimum, so it makes sense to keep the deal short. Then, when they're reserved, they can be paid up to the max (with the leverage of "pay me what I'm worth or I just won't come at all").
Some teams are miles under the cap, so the figure from the temporary suspension being on their books is no big deal. In fact, in the past some teams have 'temporarily suspended' players who were very unlikely to play, because it made it easier to get up to the salary floor, never mind staying under the cap. |
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Posted: 04/17/17 4:29 pm ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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basketballologist wrote: |
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CHICAGO SKY:
1: Courtney Vandersloot / Jamierra Faulkner / Yvonne Anderson
2: Cappie Pondexter / Allie Quigley / Tori Jankoska /Makayla Epps
3: Tamera Young / Kahleah Copper / Betnijah Laney / Rebekah Gardner
4: Stefanie Dolson / Jessica Breland / Keisha Hampton
5: Imani Boyette / Cheyenne Parker / Amber Harris
INA: Alaina Coates / Astou Ndour
1. Reports: Astou Ndour will miss the 2017 season
2. Chantel Osahor traded for Keisha Hampton
3. Signed Yvonne Anderson to a training camp contract.
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Posted: 04/17/17 4:46 pm ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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SAN ANTONIO STARS:
1: Moriah Jefferson / Kelsey Plum / Jazmon Gwathmey
2: Kayla McBride / Roneeka Hodges / Alex Montgomery / Sequoia Holmes
3: Monique Currie / Nia Coffey / Haley Peters / Courtney Williams
4: Clarissa dos Santos / Dearica Hamby / Adut Bulgak / Schaquilla Nunn
5: Kayla Alexander / Isabelle Harrison / Erika de Souza / Vicki Baugh / Briana Day
1. Signed Briana Day (Syracuse) to a training camp contract.
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Posted: 04/18/17 4:59 am ::: Re: Post Draft Depth Charts |
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DALLAS WINGS:
1: Skylar Diggins-Smith / Erin Phillips / Tiffany Bias
2: Aerial Powers / Allisha Gray / Saniya Chong
3: Karima Christmas-Kelly / Kaela Davis / Jordan Hooper
4: Glory Johnson / Theresa Plaisance / Kayla Thornton / Kalani Purcell
5: Courtney Paris / Evelyn Akhator / Breanna Lewis / Kelsey Lang
INA: Ruth Hamblin
1. Ruth Hamblin to skip the 2017 season to train with the Canadian National team.
2. Kelsey Lang (Texas) and Kalani Purcell (BYU) are invited to training camp.
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