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PostPosted: 04/05/17 8:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Davion Wingate, 5'6 SG, transferring from Stony Brook. She will not be allowed to transfer to any America East team, Manhattan, Hofstra, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, GA Southern, Central CT, Syracuse, or Iona (what a weird assortment!).



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PostPosted: 04/05/17 9:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I think it's more like a waterfall effect - they see so many others doing it that now it seems normal, so "I'm not totally happy here/not getting enough playing time/don't feel comfortable with some teammates/the coach isn't what she (he) promised me, the style of play sucks, my team sucks, etc... so I'll transfer someplace else." I think it works out well for some of them and others find that the problem/unhappiness was probably themselves and will follow them wherever they go.


Chrishae Rowe. Taya Reimer. Etc.

Slocum is a real head-scratcher, imo: (apparent) "success" is no guarantee of contentment or satisfaction with one's circumstances.



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PostPosted: 04/05/17 9:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Davion Wingate, 5'6 SG, transferring from Stony Brook. She will not be allowed to transfer to any America East team, Manhattan, Hofstra, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, GA Southern, Central CT, Syracuse, or Iona (what a weird assortment!).


I suspect we just got a hint of what Stony Brook's schedule looks like the next couple of years; that's usually the reason for esoteric transfer blockages.



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PostPosted: 04/05/17 9:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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myrtle wrote:
I think it's more like a waterfall effect - they see so many others doing it that now it seems normal, so "I'm not totally happy here/not getting enough playing time/don't feel comfortable with some teammates/the coach isn't what she (he) promised me, the style of play sucks, my team sucks, etc... so I'll transfer someplace else." I think it works out well for some of them and others find that the problem/unhappiness was probably themselves and will follow them wherever they go.


Chrishae Rowe. Taya Reimer. Etc.

Slocum is a real head-scratcher, imo: (apparent) "success" is no guarantee of contentment or satisfaction with one's circumstances.


Chrishae Rowe wasn't given any choice when she left Oregon or Kentucky.

Edited to add: Interesting that Rowe's Ole Miss bio has this tidbit:

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Freshman Season at Oregon (2013-14): Pac-12 Freshman of the Year and earned All-Pac 12 honors


She made the All-Freshman conference team, but she wasn't FOY. That is patently false.




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PostPosted: 04/05/17 10:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Holy shamoley! That's yet ANOTHER star freshman transferring away from Brenda. Does she ever even wonder WHY?


Everyone seems to use the excuse of " Homesick/Closer to Family" remember Lexie Used that Last year and now Gillespie & Slocum Using the same excuse this year. something is not right at UMD . Not right i tell ya


From the horse's mouth, Lexie wanted to be in the ACC.



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tfan wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Holy shamoley! That's yet ANOTHER star freshman transferring away from Brenda. Does she ever even wonder WHY?


Everyone seems to use the excuse of " Homesick/Closer to Family" remeber Lexie Used that Last year and now Gillespie & Slocum Using the same excuse this year. something is not right at UMD . Not right i tell ya



Destiny Slocum: Maryland 'wasn't the right fit'


Here's an article that counters that.

‘Homesick’ Slocum considering programs west of the Mississippi, source says

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/article142651089.html

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There’s no doubt the distance has worn on the Idaho native


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“She is super homesick,” Christina Slocum told the Idaho Statesman on March 21.


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A source close to Slocum said Tuesday that “any program west of the Mississippi could be in the mix — from Stanford to Boise State to Baylor."


Baylor doesn't seem all that close.

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Another source close to the situation confirmed Boise State would be interested.

“I’m keeping my options open,” Slocum told the Idaho Statesman late Tuesday night.

Mike Neighbors, the head coach who originally recruited Slocum at Washington, left the Huskies for Arkansas on Monday. His departure from the Pac-12 program could factor into Slocum’s decision.


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She had more assists (204) and more 3-pointers (71) than any freshman in school history.


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Playing at a university closer to home would allow Slocum to see her family on a more consistent basis. At Maryland, many of her teammates were from the East Coast and able to go home on the weekends.

“It was kind of hard,” the source said.



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A source close to Slocum said Tuesday that “any program west of the Mississippi could be in the mix — from Stanford to Boise State to Baylor."




omg. That would be awesome...but I don't think we've ever taken a transfer. And the academic hurdles/red tape are still in place. Still one can hope. Anyway I hope it's a P12 team. I'd like us to keep all the talent West of the Mississippi, West of the Mississippi. [boo to UTenn for stealing our Pac NW girls]

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no shit!



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PostPosted: 04/05/17 11:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
[boo to UTenn for stealing our Pac NW girls]


UTenn?? Lambaste UConn for getting the Really Good Ones, LOL! Laughing



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PostPosted: 04/06/17 5:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Davion Wingate, 5'6 SG, transferring from Stony Brook. She will not be allowed to transfer to any America East team, Manhattan, Hofstra, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, GA Southern, Central CT, Syracuse, or Iona (what a weird assortment!).


I suspect we just got a hint of what Stony Brook's schedule looks like the next couple of years; that's usually the reason for esoteric transfer blockages.


Probably, but there's something particularly offensive to me about telling a young woman "ok, you can get in and they're offering you a free ride to Yale and Harvard, but we won't let you take it."


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 6:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mzonefan wrote:
pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Wow! I see she's from Meridian, ID (close to Boise). Will this turn out to be a transfer closer to home? Oregon or Oregon State look to be the closest bigger programs.

She decommited from Washington University in 2015 which is also located in a contiguous state.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Holy shamoley! That's yet ANOTHER star freshman transferring away from Brenda. Does she ever even wonder WHY?


Everyone seems to use the excuse of " Homesick/Closer to Family" remeber Lexie Used that Last year and now Gillespie & Slocum Using the same excuse this year. something is not right at UMD . Not right i tell ya



Don't forget about Dara Taylor and Natasha Cloud who transferred as well.


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 8:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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It's like suddenly all these kids realized,....."OMG the BIG sucks!!"


I wouldn't put too much into some of them. Purdue, for instance, is a pretty good, tough school, and someone who graduates early may have actually used basketball to <gasp> further her education! I know, shocking, right? But not completely unheard of, especially among those who sit at the lower end of the bench, or have a serious injury along the way. Others may simply wish to transfer to graduate school elsewhere. It happens.



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NoDakSt wrote:
It's like suddenly all these kids realized,....."OMG the BIG sucks!!"


I wouldn't put too much into some of them. Purdue, for instance, is a pretty good, tough school, and someone who graduates early may have actually used basketball to <gasp> further her education! I know, shocking, right? But not completely unheard of, especially among those who sit at the lower end of the bench, or have a serious injury along the way. Others may simply wish to transfer to graduate school elsewhere. It happens.


Exactly. Horrocks has her degree and will transfer somewhere to get a Master's while she hopefully gets some playing time over the next 2 years. In all honesty, this was a blessing in disguise as Purdue could use the extra scholarship seeing as McLaughlin had just taken their last one available for the next couple of years.


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Wiseone1 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Holy shamoley! That's yet ANOTHER star freshman transferring away from Brenda. Does she ever even wonder WHY?


Everyone seems to use the excuse of " Homesick/Closer to Family" remeber Lexie Used that Last year and now Gillespie & Slocum Using the same excuse this year. something is not right at UMD . Not right i tell ya



Don't forget about Dara Taylor and Natasha Cloud who transferred as well.


Jackie Nared. Whitney Bays. Drey Mingo. That said, Cloud definitely had family reasons to transfer. Nared was a left coaster who wanted to stay out there. These are young people, after all. I mean, players transfer out of Geno's and Muffett's programs, too.


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Rebekah Dahlman will graduate from Vanderbilt and play her final year of eligibility elsewhere.


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 9:27 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sue Semerau does a good job of evaluating and meshing transfers so she may be pretty busy this week.

Dawn has some roster spots open next year as well.



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Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



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zvyn3 wrote:
Rebekah Dahlman will graduate from Vanderbilt and play her final year of eligibility elsewhere.


She'd look good in maroon and gold.


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NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


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purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes



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purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


That might explain the McCoys initial attraction to tOSU as Chelsea Mitchell received a scholarship (indeed Dear Old Dad got a coaching job) because of the uber-talented sister.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


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ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


i Dont blame him , this is getting out of hand. Now we have players going to schools just so there family members can recieve proper compensation wether its a place on the staff or a free scholarship with no talent. I hope this doesnt become a trend. I remember reading A. Hayes incoming freshmen for tennesee saying she wants to go to a place where ALL 4 of her sisters can get scholarships and play and its like how can you make demands without even stepping on the court ? Geno said it best , these kids think there doing you some sort of a favor by choosing a school when the education should be the primary factor.



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I don't think its new. There's always been some players or parents who make various demands. What's new is that with social media it tends to quickly become public knowledge.


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Oldfandepot2 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Wow! I see she's from Meridian, ID (close to Boise). Will this turn out to be a transfer closer to home? Oregon or Oregon State look to be the closest bigger programs.

She decommited from Washington University in 2015 which is also located in a contiguous state.


Washington University is in St. Louis....

She committed to the University of Washington which is in Seattle.



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ajdawg7 wrote:
Oldfandepot2 wrote:
mzonefan wrote:
pilight wrote:
National FOY Destiny Slocum transferring from Maryland

http://www.swishappeal.com/2017/4/4/15118796/maryland-destiny-slocum-transferring-ncaaw

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We would like to thank Destiny and her family for their contributions to Maryland this year. I truly enjoyed coaching Destiny, and her energy she brought every day. I had many long conversations with her over the season, and we spent a lot of time together. Our staff is proud of the commitment we put into Destiny’s development and all the accomplishments she achieved this season. We wish her continued success as she moves forward.


Wow! I see she's from Meridian, ID (close to Boise). Will this turn out to be a transfer closer to home? Oregon or Oregon State look to be the closest bigger programs.

She decommited from Washington University in 2015 which is also located in a contiguous state.


Washington University is in St. Louis....

She committed to the University of Washington which is in Seattle.


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“That’s the thing about the recruiting process, is you never really know what coaches’ true intentions are, which is why you get so many transfers,” Tim said. “We have learned throughout this whole process what new questions we need to ask, but at the same time, you really never know what a coaches’ true intentions are until you get to that program. It’s like a shot in the dark, a role of the dice. Either way, we’re just going to have to sit down, we’re going to do our due diligence.”

Actually, I think he has somewhat of a point here. SOME coaches are not truthful in the recruiting process. The really good ones are, but I've heard stories (more so from young men, but that is partly because I've known a few boys rather well who went through the process in various sports). And a lot of parents and kids get pretty overwhelmed during the process too. It's not easy.



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“That’s the thing about the recruiting process, is you never really know what coaches’ true intentions are, which is why you get so many transfers,” Tim said. “We have learned throughout this whole process what new questions we need to ask, but at the same time, you really never know what a coaches’ true intentions are until you get to that program. It’s like a shot in the dark, a role of the dice. Either way, we’re just going to have to sit down, we’re going to do our due diligence.”

Actually, I think he has somewhat of a point here. SOME coaches are not truthful in the recruiting process. The really good ones are, but I've heard stories (more so from young men, but that is partly because I've known a few boys rather well who went through the process in various sports). And a lot of parents and kids get pretty overwhelmed during the process too. It's not easy.


There are definitely some "less than honest" coaches out there. The good news is that info travels pretty fast. Some are excellent salespeople but leave a lot to be desired in other categories.


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ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


Mitchell was definitely worth it. Ohio State would be nothing without her.


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According to this article tOSU did offer a scholarship to little sis, Madison

http://www.illinoishomepage.net/sports/high-school-sports/2016-wcia-3-girls-basketball-player-of-the-year-tori-mccoy/409266375

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The consensus Top 10 player in the country ended up signing with the Buckeyes in November, ending a long recruitment that even included her sister Madison. Ohio State offered her a scholarship as well.


It also says Geno came to visit, but never made the offer after talking with her and the parents. Gee, I wonder why.



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ArtBest23 wrote:
I don't think its new. There's always been some players or parents who make various demands. What's new is that with social media it tends to quickly become public knowledge.


It's been going on since forever. I remember Andy Landers giving Tasha Humphrey's mother a job to entice her to play for the Bulldogs.



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Probably, but there's something particularly offensive to me about telling a young woman "ok, you can get in and they're offering you a free ride to Yale and Harvard, but we won't let you take it."


I agree with that, except that the Ivy League prohibits athletics scholarships and all financial aid has to be need-based. If she really wants a free ride to Harvard, which is dependent on academics and family finances, she can forgo basketball.


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Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


Reportedly one of the reasons Tori went to Ohio State in the first place was that the coach/school agreed to her family's demand to take her sister. Now you have to wonder if McGuff reneged on that commitment, prompting the father's comments about "coaches' true intentions."


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 1:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zvyn3 wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


Mitchell was definitely worth it. Ohio State would be nothing without her.


Although they would be much more of a mess without her , she really hasnt done anything for the program besides national recognition for individual awards .



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According to this article tOSU did offer a scholarship to little sis, Madison

http://www.illinoishomepage.net/sports/high-school-sports/2016-wcia-3-girls-basketball-player-of-the-year-tori-mccoy/409266375

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The consensus Top 10 player in the country ended up signing with the Buckeyes in November, ending a long recruitment that even included her sister Madison. Ohio State offered her a scholarship as well.


It also says Geno came to visit, but never made the offer after talking with her and the parents. Gee, I wonder why.


Right , He probably didnt have time for the headache parent syndrome that comes along with recruiting young ladies into college.



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PostPosted: 04/06/17 1:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


Mitchell was definitely worth it. Ohio State would be nothing without her.


Although they would be much more of a mess without her , she really hasnt done anything for the program besides national recognition for individual awards .


She also got them to two Sweet Sixteens and a Big 10 regular season title, which they wouldn't have come close to without her. I don't see how you can say she hasn't done anything for the program.


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zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


Mitchell was definitely worth it. Ohio State would be nothing without her.


Although they would be much more of a mess without her , she really hasnt done anything for the program besides national recognition for individual awards .


She also got them to two Sweet Sixteens and a Big 10 regular season title, which they wouldn't have come close to without her. I don't see how you can say she hasn't done anything for the program.


If the benchmark for success at OSU is sweet 16 and Big 10 Titles then maybe i see why there so mediocre. Katie Smith led them to a final 4 . Jantel Lavender & Jessica Davenport won them big 10 titles so with that same level of success still being accomplished years later is great for OSU consistency wise , but you cant be considered a real contender if your expectations of success are content with just a Sweet 16 or Big 10 titles . Maybe it wouldnt be so bad if OSU didnt have so many in there history already .



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PostPosted: 04/06/17 1:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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ArtBest23 wrote:
Probably, but there's something particularly offensive to me about telling a young woman "ok, you can get in and they're offering you a free ride to Yale and Harvard, but we won't let you take it."


I agree with that, except that the Ivy League prohibits athletics scholarships and all financial aid has to be need-based. If she really wants a free ride to Harvard, which is dependent on academics and family finances, she can forgo basketball.


purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html


Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


Reportedly one of the reasons Tori went to Ohio State in the first place was that the coach/school agreed to her family's demand to take her sister. Now you have to wonder if McGuff reneged on that commitment, prompting the father's comments about "coaches' true intentions."


You completely miss the point. She probably would never get in to Harvard or Yale except for basketball. At places like Harvard, Yale Stanford, Duke , Notre Dame, Northwestern, etc. thousands of extremely highly qualified applicants get rejected every year. The single biggest benefit of being a star athlete at those places is preferred admission. The scholarship is secondary. But I'm confident Harvard and Yale are offering a full ride regardless whether they want to pretend it's not an athletic scholarship.

I doubt if McGuff reneged on her sister's scholarship. I think the McCoys are likely just delusional about Tori playing wing as if she was 5'11".


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 3:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
I don't think its new. There's always been some players or parents who make various demands. What's new is that with social media it tends to quickly become public knowledge.


It's been going on since forever. I remember Andy Landers giving Tasha Humphrey's mother a job to entice her to play for the Bulldogs.


...which is why Tasha Humphrey, who a few days earlier had given a verbal commitment to Duke, changed her mine.


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 5:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
NoDakSt wrote:
Tim McCoy, articulates what his daughter is 👀 for in the program to which she transfers.


http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/prep-sports/girls-basketball/2017-04-05/update-illini-not-among-mccoys-options.html



Interesting point at the end. Seems like maybe this is a way to somehow get her sister a scholarship as well? I have no idea if her sister can play or not but I'm guessing she isn't quite at the level of Tori.


sounds like another parent controlling there kids future . Rolling Eyes


Naaaaah. She isn't demanding much. "I may be a big muscular 6'4" but I want to play wing and shoot jump shots, oh, and I want my sister on the team, and you'll have to negotiate with my daddy for my services." But I'm sure somebody will say "anything you want Tori. No problem" Rolling Eyes

Looks like McGuff must have learned his lesson with the Mitchell clan and said "never again".


Mitchell was definitely worth it. Ohio State would be nothing without her.


Although they would be much more of a mess without her , she really hasnt done anything for the program besides national recognition for individual awards .


She also got them to two Sweet Sixteens and a Big 10 regular season title, which they wouldn't have come close to without her. I don't see how you can say she hasn't done anything for the program.


If the benchmark for success at OSU is sweet 16 and Big 10 Titles then maybe i see why there so mediocre. Katie Smith led them to a final 4 . Jantel Lavender & Jessica Davenport won them big 10 titles so with that same level of success still being accomplished years later is great for OSU consistency wise , but you cant be considered a real contender if your expectations of success are content with just a Sweet 16 or Big 10 titles . Maybe it wouldnt be so bad if OSU didnt have so many in there history already .


I didn't say they were content with it. Look at where they were before Mitchell. Would you say Jantel Lavender and Jessica Davenport didn't do anything for Ohio State either?


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PostPosted: 04/07/17 8:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Paulina Hersler leaves UCLA to continue her grad school education elsewhere. Guess what? That coincidentally frees up that last scholarship so Destiny Slocum can come to Westwood if she likes. My, my......


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Boston College's leading scorer and rebounder is transferring. Mariella Fasoula from Greece. http://bcheights.com/2017/03/28/mariella-fasoula-transfer-boston-college-womens-basketball/

BC might be on the hotseat next year, its a private school so no idea on the contract length but its a tough job made even tougher when your best player leaves.

Fasoula is sort of like Shepard to me, big bodied posts, not very athletic. Shepard can shoot the three while Fasoula is crafty with her post moves. I might prefer Fasoula if I was recruiting both but it could be close.


Fasoula reportedly visiting Vandy



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PostPosted: 04/07/17 11:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Paulina Hersler leaves UCLA to continue her grad school education elsewhere. Guess what? That coincidentally frees up that last scholarship so Destiny Slocum can come to Westwood if she likes. My, my......


Hersler came in with a 6'7" center from Minnesota who I guess stopped playing basketball. I remember seeing both of them sitting in street clothes on the bench their freshman year.


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Savannah Trapp is her name and I don't think she even suited up for one game. I believe she graduated from UCLA and she also had a baby while she was here.


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PostPosted: 04/07/17 11:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
According to this article tOSU did offer a scholarship to little sis, Madison

http://www.illinoishomepage.net/sports/high-school-sports/2016-wcia-3-girls-basketball-player-of-the-year-tori-mccoy/409266375

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The consensus Top 10 player in the country ended up signing with the Buckeyes in November, ending a long recruitment that even included her sister Madison. Ohio State offered her a scholarship as well.


It also says Geno came to visit, but never made the offer after talking with her and the parents. Gee, I wonder why.


Muffet also visited her at that same time and also did not offer her a scholarship. We can stop wondering.



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PostPosted: 04/08/17 8:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Noticed Slocum started following Scott Rueck on twitter, so gotta think the Beavers are in the mix.


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Noticed Slocum started following Scott Rueck on twitter, so gotta think the Beavers are in the mix.


Has she followed anybody else?



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Oldfandepot2 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
According to this article tOSU did offer a scholarship to little sis, Madison

http://www.illinoishomepage.net/sports/high-school-sports/2016-wcia-3-girls-basketball-player-of-the-year-tori-mccoy/409266375

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The consensus Top 10 player in the country ended up signing with the Buckeyes in November, ending a long recruitment that even included her sister Madison. Ohio State offered her a scholarship as well.


It also says Geno came to visit, but never made the offer after talking with her and the parents. Gee, I wonder why.


Muffet also visited her at that same time and also did not offer her a scholarship. We can stop wondering.


Reportedly the McCoys were interested in Tenn and SC as well, but Holly and Dawn also declined to make offers.


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I was going to say that Tori McCoy is welcome to Kentucky, but it sounds like she has some baggage. Then again our post situation needs an upgrade for the future.



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FrozenLVFan wrote:
Oldfandepot2 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
According to this article tOSU did offer a scholarship to little sis, Madison

http://www.illinoishomepage.net/sports/high-school-sports/2016-wcia-3-girls-basketball-player-of-the-year-tori-mccoy/409266375

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The consensus Top 10 player in the country ended up signing with the Buckeyes in November, ending a long recruitment that even included her sister Madison. Ohio State offered her a scholarship as well.


It also says Geno came to visit, but never made the offer after talking with her and the parents. Gee, I wonder why.


Muffet also visited her at that same time and also did not offer her a scholarship. We can stop wondering.


Reportedly the McCoys were interested in Tenn and SC as well, but Holly and Dawn also declined to make offers.


I think there are different levels of interest. UConn and ND I don't believe ever offered McCoy, nor did they invite her for an official visit. SC and UT did offer McCoy, and it wasn't just McCoy being interested in them, SC and UT were clearly interested in McCoy because they offered and convinced her to come on an official. A top 5 recruit like McCoy isn't making a bunch of officials to schools that didn't offer her, it'd be a waste of her time.


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