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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This changes hot seat stuff too. Auburn in the NIT may have put their coach on the hot seat next year. Same with Virginia, if they made it, they have a nice young core but now do you keep her another year?


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Auburn? That is complete BS.

Kansas State gets to host? Wow.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Debbie Antonelli gonna have a melt down about UVA not being in she kept calling them a lock during the ACCT


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Auburn is in. 17-14, they were bad to end the year too. First pick I do not agree with at all.


Their best win was against a Tennessee team that **everybody** beats, so I was surprised they made it in over Virginia.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

With the eye test UVA is pretty good. When they beat FSU I assumed they were in but the rest of their resume must be pretty bad. They lost some close games I recall, to some good teams.


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ArtBest23 wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
ND shaping up to have another cakewalk.


Stanford, Texas, Ohio St, Kentucky will all be in Lexington. Hardly a cakewalk.


Stanford stinks. Texas can't get out of their own way, tOSU plays no defense, and Kentucky is low Top 25 team, hardly a threat.

Nice try though.


Well Good St proved they're better than Maryland and ND just whipped Duke by 20, so UConn's 2&3 obviously are worse.


If you think Stan is better than Duke OR Maryland, you need help.



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

god i hate this effing gatorade bar ad.



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I really don't think Cal or Auburn deserve to be in, but who else would you give those spots to? Virginia, Michigan, GW, Indiana? Are there any other mid-majors that maybe deserved some consideration? Based on seedings, I would assume that South Florida and Auburn were the last 2 put in seeing as they are both 11 seeds.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

How did DePaul drop to a 7?!


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Auburn and Cal. I can't figure out what either one is in.

Although I'll enjoy watching Anigwe.

13 losses, 6-12 conference? How does that get Cal in?


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

wtf is this?



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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myrtle should be happy with Stanford being hosted by Kansas State.


Not happy that we ain't at home, but given that, it is about as good as it could be. I was hoping it would be West of the Miss. River and it is that at least.



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

cthskzfn wrote:
wtf is this?


a waste of time...



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Durantula wrote:
With the eye test UVA is pretty good. When they beat FSU I assumed they were in but the rest of their resume must be pretty bad. They lost some close games I recall, to some good teams.


They have three significant freshmen, and consequently played much better the second half of the year. They had some bad early losses.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

"The good of the game"...eff that. This lady has zero personality.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't know why ESPN bothers to interview the committee chair. They give them 5 minutes and the first 3 minutes is spent saying how tough it was to do their job and thanking their committee for all their hard work. Never once a tough question.

Questions I would want to hear:

Specifically, what ratings other than RPI and it's partner SOS does the committee employ?

Why is Baylor considered a higher one seed than S Carolina.

What are the odds that in 9 straight years UConn and Tenn are in different regions. Either you believe it's a conspiracy or else you are a believer in massive coincidences.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This lady's reasonings are a hoot. Laughing


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I say this every year, but I hate the women's selection show. God, why does it have to suck so bad?


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 6:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So, uh, there is profanity in here, for the faint of heart.

6-12 in conference.

Six wins. Twelve losses.

I may not have gone to a school with the academic reputation of the University of California at Berkeley, but by my math, that is a .333 record in conference, which is less than half.

You win a fucking third of your conference games and you're in the tournament? I love my Cal fans, and I would like to be happy for them, but seriously, WTF WTF WTF.

I am side-eyeing the shit out of Auburn too. I am also side-eyeing the shit out of the Big Ten in general for collectively shitting the bed and screwing each other. Fuck this bracket with fire.



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What the hell does "for the good of the game and for the best student-athlete experience" mean?


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

purduefanatic wrote:
I say this every year, but I hate the women's selection show. God, why does it have to suck so bad?


And we haven't even gotten to the Handclap Hoopla yet Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
So, uh, there is profanity in here, for the faint of heart.

6-12 in conference.

Six wins. Twelve losses.

I may not have gone to a school with the academic reputation of the University of California at Berkeley, but by my math, that is a .333 record in conference, which is less than half.

You win a fucking third of your conference games and you're in the tournament? I love my Cal fans, and I would like to be happy for them, but seriously, WTF WTF WTF.

I am side-eyeing the shit out of Auburn too. I am also side-eyeing the shit out of the Big Ten in general for collectively shitting the bed and screwing each other. Fuck this bracket with fire.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah agreed you shouldn't get in with a 33% conference record.

Also agree the Selection Show sucks. No predictions made. No Cinderella picks (even if there aren't any real ones, sell it).


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
What the hell does "for the good of the game and for the best student-athlete experience" mean?


It means Baylor will sell us more tickets than South Carolina would Laughing


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So many unasked questions, nobody with the balls to ask the committee chair. Hell, with 2 mins at the end of the show they really don't have time to ask them. Ugh.

Seriously, we have friggin 24 hour marathons about the men's bracket (which I love as well) and just crap for the women.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Very surprised that we are hosting, but we'll have our hands full with Drake.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UNI and Drake get the same seed very interesting.

Purdue 2nd to last in, both Cal and Auburn were ahead


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Charlie Creme is such a little nerd...how the hell did he get to be the women's "bracketologist" anyway?


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

First time I can remember being concerned about the 2nd rd in Gampel!



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GW made the first 4 out (along with Michigan, UVA, South Dakota St).

This is the surprise of the night for me...

Disagree with Charlie on many points, but agree there are some odd contradictions in the bracket.

Cal/Oregon seeding is perhaps the most baffling for me, especially if Cal was supposedly one of the last 4 in and Oregon wasn't.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mikeyc22 wrote:
UNI and Drake get the same seed very interesting.

Purdue 2nd to last in, both Cal and Auburn were ahead


It seems to me non-conference games factor just as much of a role as conference games.
UNI played, and beat Kansas St & Creighton in non-conference, so probably played a major factor. UNI didn't beat any of their tough non-conference games (Creighton, Green Bay, Auburn, Iowa St), so that might explain how they both ended up the similar seeds.

Cal might've played a relatively weak non-conference schedule, but they beat Oklahoma and picked up no losses (any of which would've been a bad loss), so they had more room for error that they could go sub .500 and make the tournament with how unimpressive other bubble teams were.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Matt5762 wrote:
GW made the first 4 out (along with Michigan, UVA, South Dakota St).

This is the surprise of the night for me...

Disagree with Charlie on many points, but agree there are some odd contradictions in the bracket.

Cal/Oregon seeding is perhaps the most baffling for me, especially if Cal was supposedly one of the last 4 in and Oregon wasn't.


Cal was probably the very last one in. I guess they were rewarding the conference because Cal sucked. So much potential, so little actualization. Oregon is probably happier with a 10 than a 9 anyway.



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Why are they re-airing stuff on the show????? Seriously, they can't come up with enough talking points about other things????

Ugh, this show & ESPN.


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lynxmania wrote:
linkster wrote:
What the hell does "for the good of the game and for the best student-athlete experience" mean?


It means Baylor will sell us more tickets than South Carolina would Laughing


Except that Texas would have sold as many if not more tickets in Okl City.

And if selling tickets was so important why wasn't Stanford sent to Stockton and Or St to Lexington?


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

purduefanatic wrote:
Why are they re-airing stuff on the show????? Seriously, they can't come up with enough talking points about other things????

Ugh, this show & ESPN.



amen. wtf. every year this sucks. why can't we have a real selection show?



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Now they are talking about Cal and THEY DON'T EVEN QUESTION WHY THE FUCK THEY ARE IN THE GOD DAMN FIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't give a flying dungwheel if Gottlieb got engaged. Andy Landers was like why the fuck are they asking me to give her marital advice????

Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I apologize for the expletives but I think my head is about to explode.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I had a feeling Michigan would drop out as they lost 4 of their last 5 games and had no top 50 wins. They are a very nice team, but they need to get a chip on their shoulders, show some moxie and start beating their in-state rival for a start.

The bubble team to WNIT story is getting old, but the consolation price is I get to see them at home for hopefully several more games.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

...and if they don't win the WNIT then they didn't deserve the bid.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
mikeyc22 wrote:
UNI and Drake get the same seed very interesting.

Purdue 2nd to last in, both Cal and Auburn were ahead


It seems to me non-conference games factor just as much of a role as conference games.
UNI played, and beat Kansas St & Creighton in non-conference, so probably played a major factor. UNI didn't beat any of their tough non-conference games (Creighton, Green Bay, Auburn, Iowa St), so that might explain how they both ended up the similar seeds.

Cal might've played a relatively weak non-conference schedule, but they beat Oklahoma and picked up no losses (any of which would've been a bad loss), so they had more room for error that they could go sub .500 and make the tournament with how unimpressive other bubble teams were.


Hmm and yet South Dakota State beat UNI at Cedar Falls and Creighton, ... both lost to Green Bay... they most have lost with more style. BTW I had no expectations of the committee putting us in, even though I think we deserved a seed. We dropped to many games in conference.



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pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Sorry Brenda, your inflated record and polls don't matter to the Committee. You didn't beat anybody. Stop whining and go sign up some real competition for next fall.


Yeah, she's all talking about controlling what you can control. Well, Brenda, you can control who you schedule...


It'll be interesting to see how they schedule next year...


Watch it be the same...because I don't think she gets it.



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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so now they just fill space. Why not at least get more interviews with other coaches. Totally disappointing show.



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Now they are talking about Cal and THEY DON'T EVEN QUESTION WHY THE FUCK THEY ARE IN THE GOD DAMN FIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't give a flying dungwheel if Gottlieb got engaged. Andy Landers was like why the fuck are they asking me to give her marital advice????

Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I apologize for the expletives but I think my head is about to explode.


He should have said the best way to get engaged is to get pregnant first. At least that would be something controversial to liven things up.



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myrtle wrote:
so now they just fill space. Why not at least get more interviews with other coaches. Totally disappointing show.


I'd rather watch a replay of the 2nd half of the AAC final than whatever this mess is.


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PostPosted: 03/13/17 7:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seriously, how about you talk to us about 7th seed Temple? Maybe 10th seed Toledo? How about 11th seeded Elon? I guess I would even settle for some conversation about 6th seed NC State, 11th seed Gonzaga, 12th seed Dayton...god damn it.

Here we are re-airing the same damn interviews they did during the first hour.

In thinking about it, they haven't really said much of anything about Stanford except that they can't host.




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Matt5762 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
so now they just fill space. Why not at least get more interviews with other coaches. Totally disappointing show.


I'd rather watch a replay of the 2nd half of the AAC final than whatever this mess is.


yeah...well maybe not that one. But I was thinking some action shots would be appropriate. Show some of the top teams/top players...even if it is UConn slaughtering someone.



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So many unasked questions, nobody with the balls to ask the committee chair. Hell, with 2 mins at the end of the show they really don't have time to ask them. Ugh.

Seriously, we have friggin 24 hour marathons about the men's bracket (which I love as well) and just crap for the women.


The hundreds of hours of babble pretending to be analysis about the men's tournament is entirely a product of the tens of billions of dollars being wagered in Vegas, with bookies, and in pools across the Nation.

When billions are bet on the women's tournament, it will get more than two hours of talk.


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purduefanatic wrote:
So many unasked questions, nobody with the balls to ask the committee chair. Hell, with 2 mins at the end of the show they really don't have time to ask them. Ugh.

Seriously, we have friggin 24 hour marathons about the men's bracket (which I love as well) and just crap for the women.


The hundreds of hours of babble pretending to be analysis about the men's tournament is entirely a product of the tens of billions of dollars being wagered in Vegas, with bookies, and in pools across the Nation.

When billions are bet on the women's tournament, it will get more than two hours of talk.


Well no kidding...I think we all know this. I would just enjoy an hour show that showed the brackets and asked some hard questions of the committee. At least show they notice those things rather than just gloss over everything.


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Charlie Creme is such a little nerd...how the hell did he get to be the women's "bracketologist" anyway?


As I understand it, he had a job doing data input for Joe Lunardi. When Lunardi turned down ESPN'S request that he add the women to his bracketology job, he suggested Creme. He didn't know squat about Women's basketball.


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purduefanatic wrote:
So many unasked questions, nobody with the balls to ask the committee chair. Hell, with 2 mins at the end of the show they really don't have time to ask them. Ugh.

Seriously, we have friggin 24 hour marathons about the men's bracket (which I love as well) and just crap for the women.


The hundreds of hours of babble pretending to be analysis about the men's tournament is entirely a product of the tens of billions of dollars being wagered in Vegas, with bookies, and in pools across the Nation.

When billions are bet on the women's tournament, it will get more than two hours of talk.


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purduefanatic wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
purduefanatic wrote:
So many unasked questions, nobody with the balls to ask the committee chair. Hell, with 2 mins at the end of the show they really don't have time to ask them. Ugh.

Seriously, we have friggin 24 hour marathons about the men's bracket (which I love as well) and just crap for the women.


The hundreds of hours of babble pretending to be analysis about the men's tournament is entirely a product of the tens of billions of dollars being wagered in Vegas, with bookies, and in pools across the Nation.

When billions are bet on the women's tournament, it will get more than two hours of talk.


Well no kidding...I think we all know this. I would just enjoy an hour show that showed the brackets and asked some hard questions of the committee. At least show they notice those things rather than just gloss over everything.


That would take time away from slobbering over UConn. Wink


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