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PostPosted: 02/15/17 10:10 am    ::: Let the impeachment begin Reply Reply with quote

just a matter of time now...



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PostPosted: 02/15/17 11:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think it'll be soon, but it'll probably start towards the end of the year. Trump will come out swinging and throw everything out there he can to defend himself. He doesn't want to lose or be remembered as a quitter, so things will likely get very ugly if the impeachment process begins.



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PostPosted: 02/15/17 4:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I don't think it'll be soon, but it'll probably start towards the end of the year. Trump will come out swinging and throw everything out there he can to defend himself. He doesn't want to lose or be remembered as a quitter, so things will likely get very ugly if the impeachment process begins.


I don't know that it'll happen unless Democrats take control of the House or the Russia stuff reaches a ridiculous level. (well, more ridiculous)..like..it's proven that Trump took money from Russia for his campaign, and that Russia is blackmailing him because he owes them money..or something concrete like that where there is no choice.

There are grounds right now, and with Democrats in power, it might happen..but they aren't.



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PostPosted: 02/15/17 6:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't know. I think the Republicans are content to ride the Donald train until it starts being more trouble than it's worth. Unless he knows where all the bodies are buried by that point, I wouldn't be surprised at even a Republican-led Congress to start impeachment.

The longer it goes, the more it may be hard to save their own son Pence, but if it came down to it, Paul Ryan is next, right? I'm sure he'd love that.



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I don't know. I think the Republicans are content to ride the Donald train until it starts being more trouble than it's worth. Unless he knows where all the bodies are buried by that point, I wouldn't be surprised at even a Republican-led Congress to start impeachment.

The longer it goes, the more it may be hard to save their own son Pence, but if it came down to it, Paul Ryan is next, right? I'm sure he'd love that.


Even better for them.

Disgusting that this sham of an election happened, Republicans played party over country, and it's likely Republicans will get exactly what they want.

Honestly, only person in the line of succession I can stand is Mad Dog.



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PostPosted: 02/16/17 2:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's almost a certainty the punk will be out sooner than later. All "three" houses will be eventually forced to pull the plug; the GOP-led House and Senate and Melania's house.

The bookmakers are even getting in on the action.

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The chances of Donald Trump being impeached or resigning without completing his first term as President have more than doubled since he was elected, according to one bookmaker.

When Mr Trump was named as President-elect in November, the odds of him not making it through the full four-year term were 3/1 with Ladbrokes.

Now, following a chaotic three weeks, the odds have shortened to just 11/10.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-impeachment-odds-bets-bookies-us-president-latest-a7577886.html


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Republicans played party over country, and it's likely Republicans will get exactly what they want.


Can you elaborate on what you are saying? Are you referring to Republican voters or Republican leaders? And what did they want?


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PostPosted: 02/16/17 11:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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mercfan3 wrote:

Republicans played party over country, and it's likely Republicans will get exactly what they want.


Can you elaborate on what you are saying? Are you referring to Republican voters or Republican leaders? And what did they want?


Republican leaders...with Paul Ryan at the face.

They backed a person who was ill fit to run the country for power's sake, and knew that there are shady Russian ties. Trump won, and they get to run things/let him be a useful idiot, until they no longer can.

It's disgusting. The horrible things Trump is doing are things Ryan and Pence want too...and. NOw they have someone to scapegoat.



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tfan wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:

Republicans played party over country, and it's likely Republicans will get exactly what they want.


Can you elaborate on what you are saying? Are you referring to Republican voters or Republican leaders? And what did they want?


Republican leaders...with Paul Ryan at the face.

They backed a person who was ill fit to run the country for power's sake, and knew that there are shady Russian ties. Trump won, and they get to run things/let him be a useful idiot, until they no longer can.

It's disgusting. The horrible things Trump is doing are things Ryan and Pence want too...and. NOw they have someone to scapegoat.


This has been my thought as well. That Pence is being made to look innocent re: the Flynn situation adds credence to the scenario, imo.

The Repbulicans, led by the prick McConnell, will TAKE BOWS for saving the American People from the russian puppet.

It will be puke worthy.



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PostPosted: 02/16/17 11:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

cthskzfn wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:
tfan wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:

Republicans played party over country, and it's likely Republicans will get exactly what they want.


Can you elaborate on what you are saying? Are you referring to Republican voters or Republican leaders? And what did they want?


Republican leaders...with Paul Ryan at the face.

They backed a person who was ill fit to run the country for power's sake, and knew that there are shady Russian ties. Trump won, and they get to run things/let him be a useful idiot, until they no longer can.

It's disgusting. The horrible things Trump is doing are things Ryan and Pence want too...and. NOw they have someone to scapegoat.


This has been my thought as well. That Pence is being made to look innocent re: the Flynn situation adds credence to the scenario, imo.

The Repbulicans, led by the prick McConnell, will TAKE BOWS for saving the American People from the russian puppet.

It will be puke worthy.


Democrats need strategy badly...

The more they stall on legislation being passed (that Ryan and Pence want), and the quickly the Russian stuff unravels, the better.

They need to orchestrate narratives and be what saves America. (at least according to the Press...) make sure every one of these assholes is investigated.



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PostPosted: 02/16/17 11:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mercfan3 wrote:
tfan wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:

Republicans played party over country, and it's likely Republicans will get exactly what they want.


Can you elaborate on what you are saying? Are you referring to Republican voters or Republican leaders? And what did they want?


Republican leaders...with Paul Ryan at the face.

They backed a person who was ill fit to run the country for power's sake, and knew that there are shady Russian ties. Trump won, and they get to run things/let him be a useful idiot, until they no longer can.

It's disgusting. The horrible things Trump is doing are things Ryan and Pence want too...and. NOw they have someone to scapegoat.


It seems a big stretch to say the Republican leadership backed Trump. The Republican leaders didn't back Trump during the campaign. I don't think any Senator but Jeff Sessions endorsed him before Trump wrapped things up and even then Sessions took some time. And after Trump was the presumptive nominee Paul Ryan took forever to ultimately give Trump a tepid endorsement. He at one point had the line "I'm just not there yet" with regard to him still not endorsing Trump well after it was clear Trump was the winner, barring a convention fight to oust him. I can't remember how Mitch McConnell dealt with him but there was also the #NeverTrump movement among Republicans and all the Republican neo-cons who either endorsed Clinton or signed a letter saying Trump was unfit for the position. Time Magazine when they made Trump the Person of the Year made the statement that "he had to defeat two parties".


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PostPosted: 03/02/17 12:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

just a matter of time



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PostPosted: 03/02/17 9:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/mike-pence-private-email/98637782/


Lock him up???



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PostPosted: 03/02/17 10:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Trump goes, Pence is who the Republicans would want---he can be controlled. Fact is, Pence won't be taken down by Trump and Russia---Pence was just along for the ride in the #2 seat. If in fact, #45 gets the boot (and if impeachment is put to a vote, the Republicans will bite as they can't stand Trump as he is not uncontrollable) Pence will be #46 and get slaughtered in 2020 by Sanders, Warren or a host of others...heck, Clinton might even be able to beat him.


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Clinton might even be able to beat him.


HILLARY CLINTON WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!



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pilight wrote:
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Clinton might even be able to beat him.


HILLARY CLINTON WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!


Probably.

America's loss.



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mercfan3 wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/mike-pence-private-email/98637782/


Lock him up???


yeah, suddenly what was THE biggest story for the asshole media doesn't mean shit.

and they say the media has a liberal bias? lmao.



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and they say the media has a liberal bias? lmao.


The media has a power bias. They want to report great people doing great things, so they fawn over whoever is in charge and blow everything out of proportion. They also want access, to make their jobs easier, so they don't rock the boat if they can avoid it. Most reporters don't want to be Woodward and Bernstein, they just want to keep their jobs and do as little work as possible.



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pilight wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
and they say the media has a liberal bias? lmao.


The media has a power bias. They want to report great people doing great things, so they fawn over whoever is in charge and blow everything out of proportion. They also want access, to make their jobs easier, so they don't rock the boat if they can avoid it. Most reporters don't want to be Woodward and Bernstein, they just want to keep their jobs and do as little work as possible.



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pilight wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
Clinton might even be able to beat him.


HILLARY CLINTON WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT!


Chill the fuck out....it was a comparison. Of course if she wouldn't have ignored the Rust Belt she would be president now.


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Rustbelt schmustbelt.


drip drip drip....

i feel like i'm back in my HS Current Events class, following the Watergate saga. (if such a class like that exists these days, i'm sure students follow stuff like JoliePittgate).


Twitler's recent bs re: Obama tapping Trump Tower is Cheetolini's most desperate attempt to distract the media yet. Russia Russia Russia.

drip drip drip...



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drip drip drip...



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drip drip drip...


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/325574-dem-rep-says-trump-administration-surrounded-by-cloud-of?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

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just a matter of time....tick tick tick



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For the life of me, I can't figure out why liberals want this to happen so much. If he ends up deserving it, so be it, but it seems like people are hoping for it.

But then we get the woman-fearing, gay converting, nutjob Pence as president. Or if he got wrapped up in it, we get Paul "fuck the poor" Ryan.

Neither of those two would be better, and in many cases they might actually be worse.



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For the life of me, I can't figure out why liberals want this to happen so much. If he ends up deserving it, so be it, but it seems like people are hoping for it.

But then we get the woman-fearing, gay converting, nutjob Pence as president. Or if he got wrapped up in it, we get Paul "fuck the poor" Ryan.

Neither of those two would be better, and in many cases they might actually be worse.


I kinda agree with this. Since I'm not into American politics much being Aussie, what happens if Trumps entire group gets impeached? Who becomes president then? What happens if it's proven that Russia was responsible for hacking and its proven that Hillary would have won? Do they reverse it and make her president? Just curious. I'm not really stupid. I just don't know how all that works lol


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Ay Mate wrote:
justintyme wrote:
For the life of me, I can't figure out why liberals want this to happen so much. If he ends up deserving it, so be it, but it seems like people are hoping for it.

But then we get the woman-fearing, gay converting, nutjob Pence as president. Or if he got wrapped up in it, we get Paul "fuck the poor" Ryan.

Neither of those two would be better, and in many cases they might actually be worse.


I kinda agree with this. Since I'm not into American politics much being Aussie, what happens if Trumps entire group gets impeached? Who becomes president then? What happens if it's proven that Russia was responsible for hacking and its proven that Hillary would have won? Do they reverse it and make her president? Just curious. I'm not really stupid. I just don't know how all that works lol

If it would come out that the entire campaign was complicit, it would likely create a constitutional crisis, as there is no mechanisms in the Constitution to deal with such a legitimacy issue. As for who would be President, that is dictated by the 25th amendment and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. The 25th designates the Vice President, while the PSA codifies the rest of the Order.

Thus it is Vice President, Speaker of the House, President Pro Tempore of the Senate, Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense....

The first non-Republican on that list is Sec. of Defense James Mattis.

There is absolutely no mechanism in place to give the Presidency to a runner up, even in the case of full on election fraud.



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Pence gave a speech in Ohio yesterday where he was extolling the policies of the Trump administration, and at one point he said something about coal jobs and had a line (paraphrasing) "and as The President likes to call himself 'Mr. Coal'". The audience was applauding somewhat for each of his talking points, but the Mr Coal line appeared to draw only silence. I did a search looking for reactions to it and found a 2016 article in which Pence is vowing to have Indiana defy the EPA coal plant rules.

I thought that Trump was saying a lot of right wing talking points (pro-life, Global Warming is not a problem, cut regulations and government, reduce taxes, increase the military) that he didn't actually believe in, in order to get Republicans to turn out. And he was in conflict with the right on job export and (at least with the right elite) in making illegal immigration a negative. But he is governing exactly as he campaigned.


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justintyme wrote:
For the life of me, I can't figure out why liberals want this to happen so much. If he ends up deserving it, so be it, but it seems like people are hoping for it.

But then we get the woman-fearing, gay converting, nutjob Pence as president. Or if he got wrapped up in it, we get Paul "fuck the poor" Ryan.

Neither of those two would be better, and in many cases they might actually be worse.


If this was directed to me- first, i'm not a self-described liberal. 2nd, trump in the white house is a clusterfuck of such disasterous proportions that Pence would be an improvement, because at least all of the peripheral shit- mar-a-lago, business all around the globe, bannon, wife in NYC, daughter in the WH, sons galavanting around the globe, etc etc etc etc. will be gone. Pence is just a typcial scumbag Republican politician who will be easier to zero in on and defeat. And I don't think he's a pathological liar and narcissist of the highest order as is Trump.



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cthskzfn wrote:
justintyme wrote:
For the life of me, I can't figure out why liberals want this to happen so much. If he ends up deserving it, so be it, but it seems like people are hoping for it.

But then we get the woman-fearing, gay converting, nutjob Pence as president. Or if he got wrapped up in it, we get Paul "fuck the poor" Ryan.

Neither of those two would be better, and in many cases they might actually be worse.


If this was directed to me- first, i'm not a self-described liberal. 2nd, trump in the white house is a clusterfuck of such disasterous proportions that Pence would be an improvement, because at least all of the peripheral shit- mar-a-lago, business all around the globe, bannon, wife in NYC, daughter in the WH, sons galavanting around the globe, etc etc etc etc. will be gone. Pence is just a typcial scumbag Republican politician who will be easier to zero in on and defeat. And I don't think he's a pathological liar and narcissist of the highest order as is Trump.


Add to that: I am legitimately frightened about what Trump will do in terms of foreign policy. While Pence and Ryan might be able to work together to do something pretty terrible things (or might not, given how incompetent Ryan is), I do not think they would start a war of aggression or drop a nuclear bomb. I am not at all convinced the same is true of Trump.


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PUmatty wrote:
cthskzfn wrote:
justintyme wrote:
For the life of me, I can't figure out why liberals want this to happen so much. If he ends up deserving it, so be it, but it seems like people are hoping for it.

But then we get the woman-fearing, gay converting, nutjob Pence as president. Or if he got wrapped up in it, we get Paul "fuck the poor" Ryan.

Neither of those two would be better, and in many cases they might actually be worse.


If this was directed to me- first, i'm not a self-described liberal. 2nd, trump in the white house is a clusterfuck of such disasterous proportions that Pence would be an improvement, because at least all of the peripheral shit- mar-a-lago, business all around the globe, bannon, wife in NYC, daughter in the WH, sons galavanting around the globe, etc etc etc etc. will be gone. Pence is just a typcial scumbag Republican politician who will be easier to zero in on and defeat. And I don't think he's a pathological liar and narcissist of the highest order as is Trump.


Add to that: I am legitimately frightened about what Trump will do in terms of foreign policy. While Pence and Ryan might be able to work together to do something pretty terrible things (or might not, given how incompetent Ryan is), I do not think they would start a war of aggression or drop a nuclear bomb. I am not at all convinced the same is true of Trump.


IF and that's a pretty sizeable IF, Trump gets impeached, the Senate will boot him out in a New York minute. Pence, in their eyes, is more controllable than Trump. Pence is an evil bastard, but I have a feeling he can be reasoned with not to trash everything. In 2020 he will be very beatable if he has had to finish off Trump's term with a likely more Democratic House and Senate.

If Trump survives I don't see him being re-elected as Republicans will run away from him and the Democrats could very well take back the Senate in 2018 and make a dent in the House in 2018 as well.


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http://nypost.com/2017/04/18/fbi-used-trump-dossier-to-justify-monitoring-of-ex-aide-report/

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Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations and how much he played golf?
Trump is in Florida more than Washington.

Trump will be a painful 4-yr lesson in taking the election more seriously. The election isn't a game show.



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Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations and how much he played golf?
Trump is in Florida more than Washington.

Trump will be a painful 4-yr lesson in taking the election more seriously. The election isn't a game show.


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Another difference is that Obama golfed at Joint Base Andrews outside DC for almost 33% of the rounds. He didn't leave nearly every weekend to go to FL and profit by charging taxpayers golf cart fees, totalling $35,000 to date, for the Secret Service who guard him.

Additionally, Trump is golfing at a rate ~50% higher than Obama did, at once every 5.9 days vs 8.8 days.

Meanwhile, taxpayers shell out $150,000/day to protect the First Lady in Absentia and son in NYC.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/25/politics/trump-today-live-updates?lf-content=193420520:lb-post-bcca74910eee82b822abdb6a3860c47d@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink


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obstruction of justice, maybe?



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scullyfu wrote:
obstruction of justice, maybe?


No. Not even "maybe".

That's not how it works.


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