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PostPosted: 07/14/17 2:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Interesting. Seems accurate to me.
For those who can't or didn't watch, the speaker uses the example from the Bible where two women brought a baby before the king saying it was theirs, and when he said to cut it in half the actual mother said no, to just let the other woman have the baby.

The conclusion in comparison to the US is that Trump supporters feel left behind. They don't feel a part of the modern America. They would rather have a dead half of a country, than let the country continue to move forward. They don't care about Russia, collusion with foreign powers, etc. Trump is their mouthpiece, and they don't care how it came about. This is why support remains strong or basically unwavering among Trumpettes (or whatever people call them). Because they don't care about the law, social order, any of the structure of our country. It's dead to them.



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PostPosted: 07/14/17 4:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

(Good to see you again, woman! Cool )
norwester wrote:
The conclusion in comparison to the US is that Trump supporters feel left behind. They don't feel a part of the modern America. They would rather have a dead half of a country, than let the country continue to move forward. They don't care about Russia, collusion with foreign powers, etc. Trump is their mouthpiece, and they don't care how it came about. This is why support remains strong or basically unwavering among Trumpettes (or whatever people call them). Because they don't care about the law, social order, any of the structure of our country. It's dead to them.


I would be inclined to agree with this, inasmuch as there ARE people in that category: the very disenchanted, disenfranchised set that are feeling like quality of life is evading them. BUT: MOST of the people *I* know that are Trump supporters (middle-class or better) will be the first to screech the loudest when anarchy hits. They're the ones that crave for America to return to the Good Ol' (White Boy) Dayz, when June Cleaver rocked our world, and Jesus fixed things. And this part puzzles me, cuz that was ALSO when Russia was Enemy #1. And now, 'they' can just overlook this collusion? Rolling Eyes

I do hope that Congress finally realizes Impeachment is a necessary thing, if want to have any hope for a predictable future.



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PostPosted: 07/15/17 3:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07/21/17 8:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office. Updated July 20: The president is still lying, so we've added to this list, and provided links to the facts in each case.

Trump Told Public Lies or Falsehoods Every Day for His First 40 Days

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html



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PostPosted: 07/21/17 9:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/343055-dem-rep-trump-threatened-mueller-by-trying-to-set-limits-for-russia-probe

Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) accused President Trump on Thursday of threatening special counsel Robert Mueller by saying that the former FBI director would cross a line if his investigation into Russian election meddling delves into the Trump family's finances.



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PostPosted: 07/21/17 9:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/07/20/incoherent-president-trump/tMBXYu0BRg50ESgfpfhMCI/story.html

The piece de resistance, however, is Trump talking about foreign policy:

“Crimea was gone during the Obama administration, and he gave, he allowed it to get away. You know, he can talk tough all he wants, in the meantime he talked tough to North Korea. And he didn’t actually. He didn’t talk tough to North Korea. You know, we have a big problem with North Korea. Big. Big, big. You look at all of the things, you look at the line in the sand. The red line in the sand in Syria. He didn’t do the shot. I did the shot. Had he done that shot, he wouldn’t have had — had he done something dramatic, because if you remember, they had a tremendous gas attack after he made that statement. Much bigger than the one they had with me.”

To call this incoherent babble is an insult to incoherent babble.



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PostPosted: 07/21/17 10:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

BAKER: Will you go to Britain? Are you going to make a state visit to Britain? Are you going to be able to do that?

TRUMP: As to Britain?

BAKER: Yeah.

HABERMAN: Will you go there?

[crosstalk]

TRUMP: Ah, they’ve asked me. What was interesting — so, when Macron asked, I said: “Do you think it’s a good thing for me to go to Paris? I just ended the Paris Accord last week. Is this a good thing?” He said, “They love you in France.” I said, “O.K., I just don’t want to hurt you.”

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TRUMP: We had dinner at the Eiffel Tower, and the bottom of the Eiffel Tower looked like they could have never had a bigger celebration ever in the history of the Eiffel Tower. I mean, there were thousands and thousands of people, ’cause they heard we were having dinner.



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PostPosted: 08/09/17 10:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FBI raided Manafort's house 7/26/17.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-conducted-predawn-raid-of-former-trump-campaign-chairman-manaforts-home/2017/08/09/5879fa9c-7c45-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?utm_term=.549905402b38


FBI agents raided the Alexandria home of President Trump’s former campaign chairman late last month, using a search warrant to seize documents and other materials, according to people familiar with the special counsel investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.


noose tightening...



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PostPosted: 08/18/17 3:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I say we ask God.

Heavenly Father, we seek your guidance. Should Dear Leader Trump be impeached? If thus is your divine will, we beseech you to send us a sign: sometime next week let the Earth be bathed in the darkness of night wall day still reigns. Thy will be done. Amen.



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PostPosted: 08/21/17 7:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

i'm going with tony schwartz, ghostwriter for "art of the deal," who predicts trump will resign, mostly to stay out of jail. (but, president or not, wouldn't whatever he did still be a crime?) trump would consider that more of a "win," or less of a loss, than impeachment.



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PostPosted: 08/21/17 8:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sambista wrote:
i'm going with tony schwartz, ghostwriter for "art of the deal," who predicts trump will resign, mostly to stay out of jail. (but, president or not, wouldn't whatever he did still be a crime?) trump would consider that more of a "win," or less of a loss, than impeachment.


Presidents can be impeached for things that are not criminal. Plus, Pence would likely pardon him.



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PostPosted: 08/21/17 9:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sambista wrote:
i'm going with tony schwartz, ghostwriter for "art of the deal," who predicts trump will resign, mostly to stay out of jail. (but, president or not, wouldn't whatever he did still be a crime?) trump would consider that more of a "win," or less of a loss, than impeachment.


I have no doubt he'd be ADVISED accordingly, but I believe that any such 'giving in' would be viewed as conceding a weakness on his part. I'd be shocked if he gave in that way.



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Howee wrote:
sambista wrote:
i'm going with tony schwartz, ghostwriter for "art of the deal," who predicts trump will resign, mostly to stay out of jail. (but, president or not, wouldn't whatever he did still be a crime?) trump would consider that more of a "win," or less of a loss, than impeachment.


I have no doubt he'd be ADVISED accordingly, but I believe that any such 'giving in' would be viewed as conceding a weakness on his part. I'd be shocked if he gave in that way.


when schwartz explained his reasoning, all of which i can't remember now, it made sense. weakness, yes. but being forced out? he'd twist that to make himself believe it was his own choice. just like he disbanded those advisory committees before all of the members quit.

re a crime, and setting aside grounds for impeachment, couldn't mueller find him criminally guilty in a way that his standing as president or not wouldn't matter?



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PostPosted: 08/21/17 12:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nobody knows for sure - never been addressed by any federal court.

In 1973, the Justice Dept office of legal counsel opined that a President cannot be indicted while in office.

But Ken Starr hired a law professor during his investigation of Clinton to address the issue, and his 56 page memo opining that there is no prohibition on indicting a sitting president was just released to the public last month.

But he can in any event be indicted after leaving office for acts committed before or during his presidency.

BTW, Mueller can't find anyone "guilty" of anything. That's not his job or authority.


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They just showed the pig and his paid escort wife on cnn watching the eclipse from the White House. Hopefully he's stupid enough to look up without his glasses on and goes blind and has to resign.


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Ay Mate wrote:
They just showed the pig and his paid escort wife on cnn watching the eclipse from the White House. Hopefully he's stupid enough to look up without his glasses on and goes blind and has to resign.


Obviously a blind person could be president.


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Ay Mate wrote:
They just showed the pig and his paid escort wife on cnn watching the eclipse from the White House. Hopefully he's stupid enough to look up without his glasses on and goes blind and has to resign.


i was thinking the same thing, and also thinking he'd try to look w/out his glasses because he doesn't believe in science or that he's a mere mortal. he did, in fact, look up quickly w/out his glasses, as did his something-not-right son.



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PUmatty wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
They just showed the pig and his paid escort wife on cnn watching the eclipse from the White House. Hopefully he's stupid enough to look up without his glasses on and goes blind and has to resign.


Obviously a blind person could be president.


I guess I shouldn't discriminate against the blind.


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sambista wrote:
Howee wrote:
sambista wrote:
i'm going with tony schwartz, ghostwriter for "art of the deal," who predicts trump will resign, mostly to stay out of jail. (but, president or not, wouldn't whatever he did still be a crime?) trump would consider that more of a "win," or less of a loss, than impeachment.


I have no doubt he'd be ADVISED accordingly, but I believe that any such 'giving in' would be viewed as conceding a weakness on his part. I'd be shocked if he gave in that way.


when schwartz explained his reasoning, all of which i can't remember now, it made sense. weakness, yes. but being forced out? he'd twist that to make himself believe it was his own choice. just like he disbanded those advisory committees before all of the members quit.


I heard this gentleman talk candidly about his experience as the ghost writer, and even though it was widespread news at the time, I was just stunned that it had no more impact than it did. Now, I never heard his take on Donald's departure, but he'd certainly be one of the more informed sources to opine on that. However, The Mentally Deficient continue to overlook the obvious.

Re: *overlooking* Trump's flaws, did anyone else hear Falwell Jr's defense of Trump? His general babbling took an ironic twist when (at the 6 min mark) he spoke of his appreciation for the way Trump "doesn't say what's politically correct, he says what's in his heart, what he believes...."

REALLY?? You, a prominent leader of a CHRISTIAN university can endorse a President, even when he says what's in his heart Re: Grabbing Pussy, and YOU can stand by that man. I was glad to hear of the Liberty grads who are returning their diplomas in protest of his position.

The only Trump supporters I despise more than Gays who voted for him, are CHRISTIANS who defend him.



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Howee wrote:
sambista wrote:
Howee wrote:
sambista wrote:
i'm going with tony schwartz, ghostwriter for "art of the deal," who predicts trump will resign, mostly to stay out of jail. (but, president or not, wouldn't whatever he did still be a crime?) trump would consider that more of a "win," or less of a loss, than impeachment.


I have no doubt he'd be ADVISED accordingly, but I believe that any such 'giving in' would be viewed as conceding a weakness on his part. I'd be shocked if he gave in that way.


when schwartz explained his reasoning, all of which i can't remember now, it made sense. weakness, yes. but being forced out? he'd twist that to make himself believe it was his own choice. just like he disbanded those advisory committees before all of the members quit.


I heard this gentleman talk candidly about his experience as the ghost writer, and even though it was widespread news at the time, I was just stunned that it had no more impact than it did. Now, I never heard his take on Donald's departure, but he'd certainly be one of the more informed sources to opine on that. However, The Mentally Deficient continue to overlook the obvious.


i felt the same way when i read a nyt piece last year, an interview with trump's butler of 30 years. i know great swells of people don't read the nyt, but it was too glaring not to have made the usual social media regurgitations. one gem:

the new york times wrote:
In the early years, Mr. Trump’s daughter Ivanka slept in the same children’s suite that Dina Merrill, an actress and a daughter of Mrs. Post, occupied in the 1930s. Mr. Trump liked to tell guests that the nursery rhyme-themed tiles in the room were made by a young Walt Disney.

“You don’t like that, do you?” Mr. Trump would say when he caught Mr. Senecal rolling his eyes. The house historian would protest that it was not true.

“Who cares?” Mr. Trump would respond with a laugh.



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here's what tony schwartz said. the video provides more. full disclosure: he also made this prediction in may. not clear about what his timeframe was.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/art-of-the-deal-author-trump-resignation-prediction/index.html



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Exactly one day before Trump's ghost writer popped up on CNN to suggest that the POTUS might soon resign, I had a sudden illumination and chased mrs jammer to the far reaches of our tiny apt to "suggest" the same thing. Look, I think Trump has already ingested the polonium, if you know what I mean. That would be obstruction of justice and abuse of power. He will either be around to have those charges leveled at him while in office, in which case he will be pressured out, maybe with a deal, or he will be already gone. I'm of the opinion that he's likely to be already gone.

But here's the thing that you don't hear here or in the echo-chamber of the mainstream media. It is the truth that is out there but seems to elude so many. That truth is that Trump still enjoys tremendous support among the people of this country. Notably and noisily, even among minorities. That aspect of Trump's support might be statistically irrelevant, but my point is that Trump hears his supporters and, I believe, is bolstered and emboldened by them completely out of proportion to their numbers. So with a cheerleading section that includes blacks and latinos, Trump is less likely to just walk away when things get as tough as they were this past few weeks.

ETA. If you haven't read the New Yorker article from last YEAR on (or by) Trump's Art of the Deal co-ghost-writer? Tony Schwartz, and you're at all interested in the subject of Donald Trump, you should. To say that this guy predicts Trump will resign can't be given its full measure of relevance until you read and understand how right this guy was in predicting what kind of a president Trump would be based on his direct experience with the man. It's pretty amazing.


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I think you hit the nail on the head there Jammer. Trump is very good at internalizing that which he wants to, and writing off the rest with contempt. While his numbers as are terrible when considered against the total population, he does still have the rabid support of tens of millions of people. When simply considered in pure numbers that is a lot of people to feed an ego. And he creates these little narratives full of alternative facts to discount all the voices speaking against him. And here is the key: he honestly believes these fantastical narratives to be true.



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justintyme wrote:
I think you hit the nail on the head there Jammer. Trump is very good at internalizing that which he wants to, and writing off the rest with contempt. While his numbers as are terrible when considered against the total population, he does still have the rabid support of tens of millions of people. When simply considered in pure numbers that is a lot of people to feed an ego. And he creates these little narratives full of alternative facts to discount all the voices speaking against him. And here is the key: he honestly believes these fantastical narratives to be true.


I think Trump would have given anything to have lost the election, (but won the popular vote by 3 million), and have the ability to create his own "news" network, where his millions of supporters could level their fandom and validation to him.

The Trumps were already in talks for creating their own network prior to the election..



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mercfan3 wrote:
justintyme wrote:
I think you hit the nail on the head there Jammer. Trump is very good at internalizing that which he wants to, and writing off the rest with contempt. While his numbers as are terrible when considered against the total population, he does still have the rabid support of tens of millions of people. When simply considered in pure numbers that is a lot of people to feed an ego. And he creates these little narratives full of alternative facts to discount all the voices speaking against him. And here is the key: he honestly believes these fantastical narratives to be true.


I think Trump would have given anything to have lost the election, (but won the popular vote by 3 million), and have the ability to create his own "news" network, where his millions of supporters could level their fandom and validation to him.

The Trumps were already in talks for creating their own network prior to the election..


I don't know anything about the news network but I totally agree with your first statement. He's in a very hot seat right now. The thing that saves him is how far he is down the sociopathic spectrum. But the family, some of whom may be facing permanent destruction in the form of charges and indictments or plea deals, are now dreaming of what might have been in the paradise of their dad (father-in-law) being the 2016 Republican nominee who gave President Hillary Clinton a good scare.

That's almost painful to write.


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