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pilight
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Posted: 01/30/17 1:49 pm ::: Three Way Trade Made |
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Kia Vaughn and Bria Hartley are being traded to NY, Carolyn Swords is going to Seattle and Washington gets Seattle's #6 pick
The Mystics and Storm also swap second round picks as part of the deal.
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Queenie
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Posted: 01/30/17 1:51 pm ::: |
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I... think I like this? At least now I can appreciate Hartley falling down a lot instead of being annoyed by it? Maybe we can even bring back the dive scoring cards?
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And1
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Posted: 01/30/17 1:53 pm ::: |
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This seems a little lopsided in favor of NY. For the Mystics, not sure who would be around at #6 that would be worth giving up both Vaughn and Hartley.
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zune69
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Posted: 01/30/17 1:56 pm ::: |
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Seattle GM should be fired........washington basically traded two bench players for a 1st rd pick.
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Shades
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Admiral_Needa
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Michelle89
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:04 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Seattle GM should be fired.......... |
I dont know about that. The Storm needed a big solid center and we got one. I like Swords. She will help the Storm right away while the 6th pick would be a maybe solid rotation player somewhere in the future..
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:04 pm ::: |
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As a Liberty fan, I view this trade as meaning that another trade will soon happen. Prince, Rodgers, Boyd, Wright, Zellous, Schimmel, and now Harding. That's a lot of players for two guard positions and some playing time at small forward. So I see Hartley coming as meaning that someone else is going.
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:05 pm ::: |
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So Seattle thinks the 2017 draft class is pretty bad, huh
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zune69
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:07 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Seattle GM should be fired.......... |
I dont know about that. The Storm needed a big solid center and we got one. I like Swords. She will help the Storm right away while the 6th pick would be a maybe solid rotation player somewhere in the future.. |
Really ?....a #6 pick for a player who only averaged 5.2p & 4.6r in 17.5 minutes last season ? Can Swords even play more than 20 minutes per game ?
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Shades
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:09 pm ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
As a Liberty fan, I view this trade as meaning that another trade will soon happen. Prince, Rodgers, Boyd, Wright, Zellous, Schimmel, and now Harding. That's a lot of players for two guard positions and some playing time at small forward. So I see Hartley coming as meaning that someone else is going. |
Harding? Did I miss something?
How about Zahui for Hampton and #12?
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Michelle89
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:16 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Seattle GM should be fired.......... |
I dont know about that. The Storm needed a big solid center and we got one. I like Swords. She will help the Storm right away while the 6th pick would be a maybe solid rotation player somewhere in the future.. |
Really ?....a #6 pick for a player who only averaged 5.2p & 4.6r in 17.5 minutes last season ? Can Swords even average more than 20 minutes per game ? |
i dont really care about her stats tbh. I like her fundamental game. She finds ways to be in the right spots and is a tall big body who can take some pressure of Stewart so that she doesnt always have to defend the centers. The combination of Stewart and Langhorne defensively doesnt work everybody could see that last season.
Also im pretty sure that Bird will find ways to get her more involved.
Was that 6th pick going to help us this season or the next? Our main need was a tall center and we got that
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Shades
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:22 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Michelle89 wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Seattle GM should be fired.......... |
I dont know about that. The Storm needed a big solid center and we got one. I like Swords. She will help the Storm right away while the 6th pick would be a maybe solid rotation player somewhere in the future.. |
Really ?....a #6 pick for a player who only averaged 5.2p & 4.6r in 17.5 minutes last season ? Can Swords even average more than 20 minutes per game ? |
i dont really care about her stats tbh. I like her fundamental game. She finds ways to be in the right spots and is a tall big body who can take some pressure of Stewart so that she doesnt always have to defend the centers. The combination of Stewart and Langhorne defensively doesnt work everybody could see that last season.
Also im pretty sure that Bird will find ways to get her more involved.
Was that 6th pick going to help us this season or the next? Our main need was a tall center and we got that |
I thought SEA was going to try and make a play for Plum with that pick and something else. Maybe they tried and gave up.
But trading #6 before you even see who declares is kinda rolling the dice.
It may work out for them, but I'm not loving this move for SEA.
Also it looks like NYL are not pursuing Jas Thomas.
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:33 pm ::: |
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Swords fit well with New York, so hopefully Kia can fit that role. Hartley coming off pregnancy we will see this season. I think New York did well in the trade considering what they gave up.
Seattle gained a center allowing Stewie to move to the 4, which will be beneficial to the Storm. Giving up #6 isn't ideal, but maybe they didn't like anyone that was going to fall to them.
Washington getting #6 is interesting. Assuming #2 is going to Chicago, they get back into the 1st round and now losing Vaughn and allegedly Dolson, maybe they will be targeting Jones or Coates in the draft. Assuming they keep the pick.
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:34 pm ::: |
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Hmm maybe it is now #2, #6 and Dolson to Wash for EDD (Chicago could in theory get Deshileds or Plum at 2 and Coffey at 6), or Washington is hoping that if they are still trading Dolson, Copper, and #2 for EDD that one of Coates or B. Jones will still be there at #6, or That Mike T is planning to play Meesseman at the 5 and EDD at the 4 most of the time.
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:35 pm ::: |
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Setting the Wayback Machine to 4 years ago.....
Liberty and Mystics complete trade to allow New York to acquire No. 7 overall pick
https://1495sports.com/2013/02/27/liberty-and-mystics-complete-trade-to-allow-new-york-to-acquire-no-7-overall-pick/
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New York Liberty Head Coach and General Manager Bill Laimbeer announced on Wednesday, that the team has completed a trade with the Washington Mystics. The Liberty now hold the seventh overall pick in the 2013 WNBA Draft, in exchange though the franchise gave up Kia Vaughn and the 2013 second round pick (No. 17 overall).
“We thank Kia for her contributions to the Liberty, both on and off the court. She expressed a desire to continue her playing career elsewhere and we honored her request and wish her well,” said Laimbeer. “We have the opportunity to select a fine player with the seventh pick and this move also gives us salary cap flexibility moving forward to continue building a team to compete for the championship.” |
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zune69
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:40 pm ::: |
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@Michelle89,
I'm not against seattle acquiring Swords.She's a solid 16-20 minute player.I just believe the price was a bit excessive.Especially when we have no idea who's going to declare for the draft,as pointed out by shades.Seattle would've been better off trading their 2nd rd pick for A.Henry.
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:40 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
Hmm maybe it is now #2, #6 and Dolson to Wash for EDD (Chicago could in theory get Deshileds or Plum at 2 and Coffey at 6), or Washington is hoping that if they are still trading Dolson, Copper, and #2 for EDD that one of Coates or B. Jones will still be there at #6, or That Mike T is planning to play Meesseman at the 5 and EDD at the 4 most of the time. |
I hope the Mystics keep #6 and give the Sky Copper. She has huge potential and this is the wrong year to load up on picks.
Then again, it's possible Thibault pulled the chair out at the last minute against the rookie GM, who doesn't have much say in the matter anyway. Lack of leverage is once again killing the Sky in a trade. :/
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Posted: 01/30/17 2:48 pm ::: |
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Does this deal make it less likely Dolson is going to Chicago? |
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Posted: 01/30/17 3:05 pm ::: |
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Does this deal make it less likely Dolson is going to Chicago? |
Hopefully, unless it means we have to give up Meesseman, or worse, not get EDD
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