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[RM619]

Throughout his campaign, President Trump was very vocal on the issue of rigged elections, at one point going so far as to make the baseless claim that three to five million undocumented immigrants cast their ballots, an unsubstantiated allegation that Trump reportedly continues to believe cost him the popular vote.

This morning, he took to Twitter to launch an investigation into voter fraud in this country posting, "I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and...." followed by, "even, those registered to vote who are dead (and many for a long time). Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures!"

Just one small issue: President Trump's daughter Tiffany is registered to vote in two states: New York and Pennsylvania, reports Heat Street among other news sources today.

It's perfectly legal so long as she doesn't vote in multiple locations (there's no indication that she did), but her dual registration happens to be at odds with her father's inquiry into voting procedures.

"The illegality only occurs if one votes in two places, not if you're registered in both," Fred Voigt, the deputy election commissioner for Philadelphia, told Heat Street. He also added that it was "very common for college students to be registered both where they live and where they go to school."

Steve Bannon, Trump's Chief Strategist and Senior Counselor is also reportedly registered to vote in two states: Florida and New York.

The White House has yet to comment on the news.

[scullyfu]

make that three: Steve Mnunchin (sp?) is registered to vote in more than one location.

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[GlennMacGrady]

It's quite common and not illegal for people with residences in more than one state to be registered to vote in each state. It's only fraudulent if one actually votes in more than one state.

Trump claims he wants an investigation of actual voting fraud. What's controversial about that? That's why all the Democrats supported Jill Stein's recounts, or so they said.

I think everyone should support an investigation into actual voter fraud. That would benefit the voting process of the entire nation. It shouldn't be a partisan issue, except for the rational fear, supported by history, that the overwhelming occurrence of fraud favors the Democrat party.

Once we have a handle on the magnitude of the fraud, the states can institute common sense practices to minimize it.

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[justintyme]

[GlennMacGrady]

Here is a video of Jill Stein claiming that the reason for her recount effort is suspicions about "hacking". Hacking is a form of electoral fraud.

http://for.tn/2fMNvon

In other interviews, Stein claimed there were "predictors" of "tampering" in the three states. Obviously, she was not claiming that illegal immigrants were the problem, since that issue, even if it existed, would have been minimal in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and certainly wouldn't have advantaged Trump.

I think it's legitimate to investigate whether tampering and hacking occurred anywhere, but a recount was never the appropriate methodology to uncover that. The recount was a political farce and fundraising gimmick. What she really should have been asking for, were she honest, was a forensic audit of the votes.

That's what should happen in all states, including the issue of whether illegal aliens are in fact voting, and if so, in what numbers.

Such an audit might finally shut up Trump about illegal immigrant voting and all the left wing conspiracy theories about Russian hacking and voter suppression. The political atmosphere would be much clearer and healthier were that to happen.

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[Ex-Ref]

But didn't Trump himself say that there was no fraud and therefore no need for a recount?

And now there's fraud?


This guy (and our country) is in serious need of help!

[scullyfu]

if its not illegal to be registered in more than one state, then why were the repugs/baggers/trumpeteers going from state to state and trying to get people with the same names knocked off both rolls? in fact, they were going off of names only, like there wouldn't be a joe Washington in two different states. they were even targeting people where only the last name matched. their targets were mostly democratic-leaning areas; i.e., inner cities, students. voter suppression is voter fraud.

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[norwester]

I think the blowback is the hypocrisy about wanting to investigate a fake idea of what would be an unprecedented amount of voter fraud in our country (an idea that no one has been able to substantiate no matter how many years they've tried to do so), and yet there's a refusal to investigate Russian tampering, something that Intelligence agencies actually give credence to.

That's why I'm annoyed, anyway.

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[GlennMacGrady]

The belief held by Trump and many other people that there is widespread voter fraud is partially based on two studies, one by Pew and the other by three Old Dominion professors. These studies are frequently confused and misquoted by both sides of the debate.

Pew found:

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Seems like only yesterday you were claiming No evidence of cheating, fraud, mistake or hacking has been presented. I wish you would make up your mind.

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[GlennMacGrady]

[cthskzfn]

Wtf. Voter fraud is voter suppression. There is NO question it occurred and is a policy of Republicans to illegally remove voters from the rolls.

It was THIS program, known as Interstate Crosscheck, developed by Kansas Sect of State Kris Kobach, and utilized in several states, which tilted the electoral college vote in Chump's direction.

THIS is perhaps THE critical story of the election. It certainly is THE most important going forward to the 2018 mid-terms. Pricks like Comey won't always be there for their phony Oct. Surprise, but until voter suppression is dealt with and removed, and people can vote and have their voted counted as it should, all national elections will be illegitimate, imo.

I'm really sick and tired of these dirty Republican tactics. The last legit POTUS election they won was Ike in '56.

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[GlennMacGrady]

To relieve everyone's conspiracy anxieties, perhaps we should investigate voter fraud and voter suppression. Surely that would be a more interesting task than watching an AAC basketball game.

Nixon in 72 and Reagan in 84 won by a gazillion electoral votes to almost nothing. Those couldn't have been tainted elections. Both entered office either disliked (Nixon) or considered to be an dangerous incompetent (Reagan), but both were highly popular by the next election because of their tangible policy achievements.

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[mercfan3]

[cthskzfn]

'68-Nixon sabotaged the Viet Nam peace talks = treason.

'80-Reagan sabotaged the Iranian hostage release /Iran Contra = treason.

'00- FL culled tens of thousands of voters from the rolls/recount fiasco.

'04- Ohio vote count fiasco

'16-Interstate Crosscheck/FBI played partisan politics w/info it withheld/released.


Ike in '56, the last legitimately elected Republican POTUS.

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[norwester]