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PostPosted: 02/23/17 3:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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DeWanna Bonner (Phoenix)
Crystal Langhorne SEA
Camille Little PHX sign and trade
Angel McCoughtry (Atlanta)
Tanisha Wright (New York)


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Farhiya Abdi (Los Angeles)
Rebecca Allen NYL info
Valeriane Ayayi (San Antonio)
Vicki Baugh SAN training camp
Tiffany Bias DAL one year
Abby Bishop (Seattle)
Sydney Colson (San Antonio)
Anna Cruz (Minnesota)
Ana Dabovic (Los Angeles)
Clarissa Dos Santos SAN sign and trade
Jelena Dubljevic (Los Angeles)
Cayla George PHX info
Keisha Hampton (Minnesota)
Haley Peters SAN training camp
Sonja Petrovic (Phoenix)
Meighan Simmons ATL info
Marianna Tolo (Los Angeles)
Erica Wheeler IND info
Marta Xargay (Phoenix)


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Kayla Alexander SAN info
Alex Bentley CON multi-year
Kelsey Bone (Phoenix)
Layshia Clarendon ATL mult-year
Elena Delle Donne WAS info
Kelly Faris CON info
Brittney Griner PHX multi-year
Sandrine Gruda (Los Angeles)
Tayler Hill WAS multi-year
Kayla Pedersen CON info
Jeanette Pohlen IND training camp
Sugar Rodgers NYL info
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt WAS info
Krystal Thomas WAS info


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Alana Beard LAS info
Essence Carson LAS info
Erika de Souza SAN info
Markeisha Gatling ATL training camp
Whitney Knight ATL training camp
Erlana Larkins IND multi-year
Janel McCarville
Leilani Mitchell PHX info
Plenette Pierson MIN info
Asia Taylor WAS info
Jasmine Thomas CON multi-year
Kristi Toliver WAS info
Ann Wauters
Monica Wright


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Jennifer Hamson CON training camp
Shanece McKinney IND training camp
Victoria Macaulay IND info
Cierra Burdick NYL training camp
Tiffany Jackson-Jones LAS info
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Nikki Greene SEA training camp
Ify Ibekwe LAS info
Avery Warley-Talbert LAS info
Jamie Weisner LAS info
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Yvonne Turner PHX info
Chelsea Hopkins LAS info
Shay Murphy PHX info
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Nayo Raincock-Ekunwe NYL
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Danielle Adams CON training camp
Tianna Hawkins WAS
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Nadia Colhado IND info
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Adut Bulgak SAN training camp
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Amber Harris CHI training camp
Kayla Thornton DAL training camp
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Sequoia Holmes SAN training camp
Aundrea Gamble LAS training camp
Sarah Imovbioh ATL training camp
Yvonne Anderson CHI
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Kalani Purcell DAL training camp
Kelsey Lang DAL training camp
Peyton Little ATL training camp



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Thanks for the update. That's helpful.

I'm wondering about Dos Santos. I would have thought Chicago would sign her to something. On the other hand, don't know how good her English is? Maybe she relied on Erika to translate?



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myrtle wrote:
Thanks for the update. That's helpful.

I'm wondering about Dos Santos. I would have thought Chicago would sign her to something. On the other hand, don't know how good her English is? Maybe she relied on Erika to translate?


Her English isn't great but I don't think that's a factor. I'll try to find out more on her status tonight.



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PostPosted: 02/23/17 9:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Thanks for the update. That's helpful.

I'm wondering about Dos Santos. I would have thought Chicago would sign her to something. On the other hand, don't know how good her English is? Maybe she relied on Erika to translate?


Her English isn't great but I don't think that's a factor. I'll try to find out more on her status tonight.


Sounding like she will be back. But Stocks isn't nearly as willing to divulge information as Pokey was.



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SEATTLE – The Seattle Storm today announced that Jennifer O’Neill has signed a training camp contract.

http://storm.wnba.com/news/seattle-storm-signs-jennifer-oneill/



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Could O'Neil take Quinn's spot?



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Could O'Neil take Quinn's spot?


would it actually be an upgrade if she did? I have my doubts.



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PostPosted: 02/24/17 6:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Could O'Neil take Quinn's spot?


would it actually be an upgrade if she did? I have my doubts.


Nah. Drafting someone like Peterson (if she's still there in the 2nd round) would be though.



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PostPosted: 02/24/17 7:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm not sure it would be an upgrade, but its not like Quinn has done much the past couple of seasons. The storm got Quinn for essentially nothing so they may not feel a strong attachment to her.



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PostPosted: 02/25/17 12:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nayo Raincock E had some impressive defense vs Maya & other teams in Rio for team Canada.I was watching team Canada and thinking a few wnba could use her as blue collar player.


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PostPosted: 03/09/17 10:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so three core players are sitting out this season: Wright, Bonner & McCoughtry. Realistically, we're just waiting on Griner & Bone. I'd say McCarville isn't playing this season & no one wants to overpay for Monica Wright.



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PostPosted: 03/10/17 12:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There are also a couple of American reserved players who played last season who haven't resigned with their teams

Hampton in Minnesota

and Colson, Baugh and Peters in SA

and a bunch of European reserved players who might be missing part are all of the season because of Euro-basket

Cruz, Dabovic, Dubljevic, Petrovic, Xargay, and one Aussie in Bishop

but yeah Griner and Bone to a lesser extent are the only major players still yet to sign.


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May 3, 2017
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Indiana Motley, Adrienne Waived
Indiana Williams, Ronni Waived
San Antonio Bulgak, Adut Waived


Sad to see gatling go. With her new endorsement in ATL i thought she was going to make it by.



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I'm surprised that Bulgak continues to not make it.


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PostPosted: 05/13/17 10:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I KNEW Chelsea Hopkins was going to get cut from LA. I absolutely KNEW IT. The writing was on the wall. Her first 2 preseason games she played over 10 minutes a game and DID NOT MISS ONE SHOT. So you'd think "Hey, she's doing good. She's showing she can play. Probably has a shot at making the team" NOT!!! So what do they do? Next game, instead of letting her show people what more she can do, they bump her down to FOUR MINUTES. I was not surprised at all.

You CAN NOT "play your way" onto a WNBA team. It doesn't matter what you do in camp. Not even a little. These coaches and GM's know who they want on their team before camp even starts. They pick extra players just to fill out the camp. Makes it look good. But Chelsea was too good out there in the first 2 games. I'm sure that was a problem. I mean, we can't play her that much anymore or people will see she's actually good; she's not part of our plan. But some rookie with an awkward jump shot and spotty handles, it doesn't matter what she does. She's on the team. Hopkins is WAY better than Wiese, in every aspect of the game. Or Riquna, who will maybe give you four 30 point nights a season, hidden in a plethora of games where she shoots 4 for 20 in most of the other ones. But she's established. Chelsea is not. I don't know why teams want bad players "established", but they do.

And on another team, Seattle, there's Alexis Peterson who shot 4-17, 5 assists and 8 turnovers. But it didn't matter what she did in camp. She had the job. Oh but I'm sure she "looked good in practice". Bull-shit.

This is why I'm really not mad, my girl, Prahalis did not get picked up for camp. There was no chance she was making any team. If Seattle picked her up and in 2 preseason games she shot 7 of 9 (if she shot 17 shots all you would call her a ball hog), and had 12 assists and 4 turnovers, she would STILL get cut and Peterson would make the team. This is why the WNBA is a farce. "Damn the skill and talent. We don't care how good you look. We know better. We want our vets and our rookies, no matter how good you look." You really think Sammy didn't look better than Jasmine Thomas or Matee Ajavon in Dream camp a few years ago? Sure.... She had a great camp and a good preseason game, despite not playing her much (surprise, surprise) and was promptly cut.

This is why the WNBA is a complete farce. You guys think you are watching the "best talent". Well, you aren't. Your watching what some stupid all-high-and-mighty GM's who would rather keep their precious "established vets" or try some marginal rookies than actually really looking at skilled players. It's all a political game. If you are part of the "establishment" you are probably going to get in, if not, no matter how good you are, you got no chance.

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Yeah, I remember a few years back the Lynx had a rookie who struggled in the preseason, shooting 33% from the floor ( 6/18 ), 25% from three ( 1/4 ), with 10 turnovers in two games. Another player at the same position shot 58% ( 7/12 ) from the floor in those same two games.

Of course when the season came the rookie started every game while the other player barely got off the bench...



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So I didn't even have to click the links and I knew that was Maya Moore. Because I knew whoever responded would give one example that is the exception and that supposedly refutes my entire point Rolling Eyes . My point is how you do and how you look in camp/preseason does not determine who makes rosters. Your point is invalid anyway because Charde made the team; besides the fact that Maya was the number 1 pick, of course she's playing. And I'm sure Reeve already decided those two were on the team before camp started. So try better next time.



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So I didn't even have to click the links and I knew that was Maya Moore. Because I knew whoever responded would give one example that is the exception and that supposedly refutes my entire point Rolling Eyes . My point is how you do and how you look in camp/preseason does not determine who makes rosters. Your point is invalid anyway because Charde made the team; besides the fact that Maya was the number 1 pick, of course she's playing. And I'm sure Reeve already decided those two were on the team before camp started. So try better next time.


A GM who went strictly on preseason games might well have cut Moore, since she played badly in both of them. The point is preseason games represent a small portion of what goes into roster decisions, as they should.



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What players do in preseason games is not the most important part of evaluation. Players are evaluated on all sorts of measures and most of those have to do with potential upside and position within a team. It is foolish to suggest that decisions are uniformly made in advance. There are 12 teams that are all looking for talent that can help them win. Some do it better than others, but all are trying to win. I loved watching Sam Prahalis in college, and it also helps that she grew up within 20 miles of where I did. But with her size it was always a long shot that she could really make it in the WNBA. She is a liability on defense and would need just the right situation where a team could use her offensive skills while hiding her defense.

As for Chelsea Hopkins, I'm sure she knew she had little chance of making the Sparks, but perhaps her showing in camp might lead to a 10 day contract with them (or another team) if they have a need during the season. And sometimes through force of will a player who wasn't given much of a chance to succeed eventually makes it (Alysha Clark).


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I doubt if Brian Agler knew that Ify Ibekwe was going to be on the final roster when she was invited to camp.



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Yeah, there are always going to be at least 7 or 8 players nailed on to make the team before camp even starts. In Hopkins's case it was going to be an uphill struggle, because Gray, Sims, Williams, Beard and Carson werent going anywhere (and with Parker and Lavender arriving late they had to keep at least three other posts to start the season). That's not many spots left to fight over for a guard (and Wiese is inevitably going to have something of a leg up thanks to being LA's first-round pick).

Basing anything on preseason boxscores is an absolute nonsense. We don't even get to see these games, and whether - for instance - Player X couldn't guard anyone to save their life. Or kept forgetting and screwing up sets but hit a bail-out prayer shot afterwards. Not to mention the weeks of practice sessions the coaches get to see them play in, and the off-court assessments of whether they fit with the team.



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Preseason games count for almost nothing ...

You have four years of college play to evaluate, plus two weeks of camp, plus overseas play (if that has happened), and so the 20 minutes against non-WNBA players just doesn't measure up.

I'm not saying players aren't predetermined to make it or not, just that preseason games are not much of a tool for evaluation, especially since so many starters aren't around.



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Preseason counts for almost nothing. As does the camp. Camp is just to get reps in and work on plays and chemistry. They know who they want before it starts, with the possible exception of 1 or 2 spots. And it DOES NOT MATTER what a player does if a position is already decided on. The fact is they brought Chelsea Hopkins to camp knowing full well that they were not going to pick her no matter what she did or what they saw out of her. They knew they were going with Sims, Gray, Beard, Williams, Carson, and their rookie. If Hopkins looked better and outplayed everyone or looked bad and played like shit, it wouldn't have mattered either way. She was there to fill out the camp. So basically they just wasted her time. They should have just told her off the bat she wasn't making the team, would have saved her time and aggravation. If teams actually fairly evaluated players and brought in the most skilled players to camp and kept the most skilled, there would be many different players in the WNBA than there are right now. I'm sorry if you don't believe that, but that's the God's truth.



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"Except for one or two spots" still means that some players can use camp and pre-season games to make a difference for themselves.

Look at Minnesota Ting may have started as an experiment but may very well have player her way onto the team. When they traded for Osahor it seemed like a spot was going to go to her or Fagbenle and so in their case the camp and even the pre-season games may very well have made a difference for who they ended up selecting. They actually traded for Osahor and Fagbenle had missed the previous camp so it wasn't like they had any sort of greater loyalty to one or the other.

In NY it looked pretty certain that L. Allen was at the front of the pack for the 12th spot, but in camp and pre-season games Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe out performed her, so the team kept both and decided to go into a different direction. Had Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe not showed up and showed so well, they might not be in the W tonight, so it is possible to play your way onto a team in the pre-season.

In Dallas it almost looked like Bias played herself off the team in the pre-season games by having two poor showings. I know Uconn has its pull but I doubt it extends to a 3rd round pick any more than a 4th year player the team had just given an extension. ANd Thorton got kept over Hooper probably for her strong camp and pre-season game performance.

D. Adams had a great showing in the pre-season games for The Sun and I'm sure that factored in to her jumping ahead of Hamson, Pedersen and R. Gray who they traded to get in the first place.

IN SA S. Holmes had a nice pre-season which was enough to get kept on for a game or two until Jefferson, Plum and McBride are playing and maybe it will be enough to beat out A. Montgomery or Peters, maybe not, but it is her pre-season performance that got her to this point at least.

Hopkins was in a bad situation because there were too many locks ahead of her. Had she gone to say Atl, Dallas, SA or even Chicago with Faulkner out for the season and Sloot missing time she may very well have been able to play her way into that 11th or 12th spot.


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PostPosted: 05/14/17 6:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Releasing Hopkins was dumb. She's better than at least 3 guards on the Sparks' roster.


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PostPosted: 05/14/17 10:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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"Except for one or two spots" still means that some players can use camp and pre-season games to make a difference for themselves.

Look at Minnesota Ting may have started as an experiment but may very well have player her way onto the team. When they traded for Osahor it seemed like a spot was going to go to her or Fagbenle and so in their case the camp and even the pre-season games may very well have made a difference for who they ended up selecting. They actually traded for Osahor and Fagbenle had missed the previous camp so it wasn't like they had any sort of greater loyalty to one or the other.

In NY it looked pretty certain that L. Allen was at the front of the pack for the 12th spot, but in camp and pre-season games Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe out performed her, so the team kept both and decided to go into a different direction. Had Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe not showed up and showed so well, they might not be in the W tonight, so it is possible to play your way onto a team in the pre-season.

In Dallas it almost looked like Bias played herself off the team in the pre-season games by having two poor showings. I know Uconn has its pull but I doubt it extends to a 3rd round pick any more than a 4th year player the team had just given an extension. ANd Thorton got kept over Hooper probably for her strong camp and pre-season game performance.

D. Adams had a great showing in the pre-season games for The Sun and I'm sure that factored in to her jumping ahead of Hamson, Pedersen and R. Gray who they traded to get in the first place.

IN SA S. Holmes had a nice pre-season which was enough to get kept on for a game or two until Jefferson, Plum and McBride are playing and maybe it will be enough to beat out A. Montgomery or Peters, maybe not, but it is her pre-season performance that got her to this point at least.

Hopkins was in a bad situation because there were too many locks ahead of her. Had she gone to say Atl, Dallas, SA or even Chicago with Faulkner out for the season and Sloot missing time she may very well have been able to play her way into that 11th or 12th spot.


All good points, but I would wager that what those players did in camp, in direct head-to-head competition with the players who were after the same roster spot, was far more important than performance in preseason games.

I know that the pros are different than high school, but I've done a lot of roster shaping and player cutting over the years, and by far the most important factor is how players look in practice, and how they practice. Remember, the last couple players seldom get in the game, so what matters is how they are in practice and how they help the team's chemistry. These two factors are not visible in preseason games ...



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PostPosted: 05/14/17 11:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A lot of girls go into training camp knowing they aren't going to be on the final roster unless a miracle happens. They still choose to participate. I wouldn't call it a waste of time...they could always say 'no thanks'. They at least get a per diem ...and who knows if the connections they make may come to something in the future one way or another. I find myself always rooting for the underdogs hoping for that miracle that allows them some time on a pro roster...and sometimes it happens, but pretty rarely. Still, this year, there are several unlikelies who did in fact make the end of a roster so it's not impossible.



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Right you are, Myrtle! I had a young friend invited to the Mercury camp several years ago. She knew it was a real long shot to make that team, but her agent told her to go. Being in camp in the W is a bonus when it comes to getting overseas work. She was one of the first cuts in camp, but she wound up with several opportunities overseas.


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