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PostPosted: 01/18/17 11:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Danaejah Grant Inks Pro Contract with Turkish Team

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/011817aaa.html

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“This contract means a new start for me,” Grant said. “I am in a league with higher competition now that will be preparing me to try to make it back to the WNBA. This opportunity came about through my agent, William Lovett, who has worked tremendously hard since I signed with him to put me in the best position for my career.”


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Following her standout senior campaign, Grant became the fourth-ever Johnny selected in the WNBA Draft when the Washington Mystics selected her 31st overall. Despite playing in both preseason games for the Mystics, Grant was not named to the opening day roster.



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PostPosted: 01/19/17 12:27 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Lastly, Barbee and Alleyne are technically entitled to re-enter the draft if they don't sign their qualifying offers. That's definitely a different kettle of fish.

As I remember, only if they don't play anywhere professionally for the 12 months after they were initially drafted. I don't know if either is playing overseas, but if they are then they can't re-enter the draft (I believe).



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Lastly, Barbee and Alleyne are technically entitled to re-enter the draft if they don't sign their qualifying offers. That's definitely a different kettle of fish.

As I remember, only if they don't play anywhere professionally for the 12 months after they were initially drafted. I don't know if either is playing overseas, but if they are then they can't re-enter the draft (I believe).


That's my understanding too, but I didn't think either was playing overseas. However, I just checked and Barbee is playing in Spain so she's definitely going to Liberty camp. Not that I can think of anyone who has actually re-entered the draft. For now, it seems like an interesting technicality, but not yet relevant.



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PostPosted: 01/19/17 2:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.



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Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.



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pilight wrote:
Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.


Beard and Coleman own a pizza franchise in Roanoke, VA



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pilight wrote:
Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.


They all have geographical ties elsewhere



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PostPosted: 01/19/17 6:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Carson would be an immediate upgrade at the 3 for :
San Antonio pending this years draft and position juggling,
Connecticut pending next years draft,
Chicago but very pending ~resolving wtf chaos/rumors/whatevs,

while LA already has a jersey and a plan for her, someday Beard retires, Carson keeps doing what she's doing.


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PostPosted: 01/19/17 6:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bear in mind that while the Carson who played a very specific role for LA, as the fifth starter surrounded by superstars, might be a significant upgrade for several teams - the Essence Carson who was mediocre for such an extended period in New York that fans just kinda shrugged when she walked away wouldn't make much impact for anybody.

I'd expect all three to stay, assuming none of them walk off into the sunset entirely. Who was the last player that LA would've wanted to keep if possible, who left the Sparks as a free agent?



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PostPosted: 01/19/17 8:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Danaejah Grant Inks Pro Contract with Turkish Team

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/011817aaa.html

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“This contract means a new start for me,” Grant said. “I am in a league with higher competition now that will be preparing me to try to make it back to the WNBA. This opportunity came about through my agent, William Lovett, who has worked tremendously hard since I signed with him to put me in the best position for my career.”


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Following her standout senior campaign, Grant became the fourth-ever Johnny selected in the WNBA Draft when the Washington Mystics selected her 31st overall. Despite playing in both preseason games for the Mystics, Grant was not named to the opening day roster.


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PostPosted: 01/19/17 9:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.


Beard has said she's returning.


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PostPosted: 01/20/17 12:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.


Beard and Coleman own a pizza franchise in Roanoke, VA


Do you seriously see beard or coleman going back to DC for there restaurant?



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PostPosted: 01/20/17 12:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.


Beard and Coleman own a pizza franchise in Roanoke, VA


Do you seriously see beard or coleman going back to DC for there restaurant?


I don't have an opinion in the matter. I was just helping you out with an example of a "geographical tie".



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PostPosted: 01/21/17 8:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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http://www.wnba.com/core-reserved-restricted-unrestricted-2017/


Note that this still isn't linked to the front page of .com



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sigur3 wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/core-reserved-restricted-unrestricted-2017/


Note that this still isn't linked to the front page of .com


note sure how you even found it. tried searching under a few different things and nothing comes up. Sad they don't have this listed on the front page.



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PostPosted: 01/21/17 10:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In the category of tweener turned superhero in the WNBL





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pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/core-reserved-restricted-unrestricted-2017/


Note that this still isn't linked to the front page of .com


note sure how you even found it. tried searching under a few different things and nothing comes up. Sad they don't have this listed on the front page.


On the home page under "Players," there's a partial list under "Player Movement Central" and it has a link to the complete list.


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merlina wrote:
toad455 wrote:
pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/core-reserved-restricted-unrestricted-2017/


Note that this still isn't linked to the front page of .com


note sure how you even found it. tried searching under a few different things and nothing comes up. Sad they don't have this listed on the front page.


On the home page under "Players," there's a partial list under "Player Movement Central" and it has a link to the complete list.


interesting that under the 'Player Movement Center" they only list the those that played in 2016. that removes several players from the full list. Players not on the main list are Abdi, Ayayi, Joo, Ndongue, Tolo, Pederson & Asia Taylor. Be interesting to see if any of these return for 2017.



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PostPosted: 01/22/17 5:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/core-reserved-restricted-unrestricted-2017/


Note that this still isn't linked to the front page of .com


note sure how you even found it. tried searching under a few different things and nothing comes up. Sad they don't have this listed on the front page.


I asked the Storm folks. Tweeted it our where folks picked it up.


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pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/core-reserved-restricted-unrestricted-2017/


Note that this still isn't linked to the front page of .com


That has truly pissed me off. By attaching a year to it you can't even have a bookmark. The WNBA needs to figure out if they want to be a sports league or an entertainment league. A sports league caters to ardent fans by providing information for the fans to dissect and discuss.


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PostPosted: 01/22/17 6:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Most people probably found it because it's the exact same URL as last year except with 2017 instead of 2016. Although for no good reason they've now removed the 2016 version.



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PostPosted: 01/22/17 9:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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WNBA 09 wrote:
pilight wrote:
Somehow the defending champion Sparks have three starters who are unrestricted FAs. I don't know what the market is for Beard or Carson, but you have to think Toliver can go pretty much wherever she wants.


All returning no need to even think they are leaving LaLA LAND especially toliver. The most intriguing player of the 3 is Beard she could have geographical ties elsewhere.


Beard has said she's returning.


I really don't see Toliver leaving and it looks like Essence is planning on returning: https://www.instagram.com/p/BPfx3nDA-YA/


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PostPosted: 01/22/17 11:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So what's the diffence between being a reserve or restricted free agent?

I rather have Tolo back than Gruda as backup post player. I wouldn't mind seeing Jelena D and Ana Dabovic resigned.


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So what's the diffence between being a reserve or restricted free agent?

I rather have Tolo back than Gruda as backup post player. I wouldn't mind seeing Jelena D and Ana Dabovic resigned.


Reserve players are not free agents. They can't talk to any team other than their current one.



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So what's the diffence between being a reserve or restricted free agent?

I rather have Tolo back than Gruda as backup post player. I wouldn't mind seeing Jelena D and Ana Dabovic resigned.


Indeed, it will be interesting to see if Tolo comes back. I still like Gruda's game and believe the connection she's building with Lav will be quite beneficial. Jelena had some good minutes when she got them (rarely) and Ana seemed to have taken a step back from 2015. The chemistry in LA was so good that in theory, I would love to see everyone back, but they definitely need folks that Coach will play.

Btw, can someone tell me the root of the idea that Toliver won't re-sign with LA? I'm not "hearing" it as strongly here as other places, but it really doesn't make sense...finally getting that 'ship, great team chemistry and she plays a critically important role on the squad. They depend on her and with Gray, have gotten her help at the PG spot. I've seen speculation about her going to Phx, I suppose because she is playing with BG and DT but her role is greatly reduced in Russia and I don't get a sense of how connected she really feels to them. She seems to be an extremely loyal person and between hearing her at the post championship celebration sharing how she ended up in LA and remembering her talk about being in tears when having to leave her team when she was trying to help Slovakia qualify for the World championships (I believe), I don't see her leaving. With Riquna being healthy and rumors about D. Rob coming to LA, she can comfortably move over to the 2 and play her natural position. We shall see!


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Btw, can someone tell me the root of the idea that Toliver won't re-sign with LA? I'm not "hearing" it as strongly here as other places, but it really doesn't make sense...finally getting that 'ship, great team chemistry and she plays a critically important role on the squad. They depend on her and with Gray, have gotten her help at the PG spot. I've seen speculation about her going to Phx, I suppose because she is playing with BG and DT but her role is greatly reduced in Russia and I don't get a sense of how connected she really feels to them. She seems to be an extremely loyal person and between hearing her at the post championship celebration sharing how she ended up in LA and remembering her talk about being in tears when having to leave her team when she was trying to help Slovakia qualify for the World championships (I believe), I don't see her leaving. With Riquna being healthy and rumors about D. Rob coming to LA, she can comfortably move over to the 2 and play her natural position. We shall see!


I haven’t seen these posts, but I could provide some theories:

1) Toliver is the most prominent unrestricted free agent available who is still sort of in her prime. As such, she is going to draw the most attention from fans and the media. It may just be wishful thinking or fun speculation, but that’s what we do in the off-season.

2) Toliver is from Virginia, so she’s a long way from home. Going home is a frequent reason for players switching teams.

3) Winning a championship usually makes players want to come back for more, but it can also make them feel like that goal is crossed off their list and they don’t need to worry about it anymore.

4) Chelsea Gray is LA’s point guard of the future, and the way she played at the end of the season suggests she may be ready now. Maybe Toliver wants to leave on her own before she is forced out.



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root_thing wrote:
WfanFrJmp wrote:

Btw, can someone tell me the root of the idea that Toliver won't re-sign with LA? I'm not "hearing" it as strongly here as other places, but it really doesn't make sense...finally getting that 'ship, great team chemistry and she plays a critically important role on the squad. They depend on her and with Gray, have gotten her help at the PG spot. I've seen speculation about her going to Phx, I suppose because she is playing with BG and DT but her role is greatly reduced in Russia and I don't get a sense of how connected she really feels to them. She seems to be an extremely loyal person and between hearing her at the post championship celebration sharing how she ended up in LA and remembering her talk about being in tears when having to leave her team when she was trying to help Slovakia qualify for the World championships (I believe), I don't see her leaving. With Riquna being healthy and rumors about D. Rob coming to LA, she can comfortably move over to the 2 and play her natural position. We shall see!


I haven’t seen these posts, but I could provide some theories:

1) Toliver is the most prominent unrestricted free agent available who is still sort of in her prime. As such, she is going to draw the most attention from fans and the media. It may just be wishful thinking or fun speculation, but that’s what we do in the off-season.

2) Toliver is from Virginia, so she’s a long way from home. Going home is a frequent reason for players switching teams.

3) Winning a championship usually makes players want to come back for more, but it can also make them feel like that goal is crossed off their list and they don’t need to worry about it anymore.

4) Chelsea Gray is LA’s point guard of the future, and the way she played at the end of the season suggests she may be ready now. Maybe Toliver wants to leave on her own before she is forced out.


LOL Toliver Will not be forced out of anywhere . Gray & Toliver can play together as they showed last season . Maybe just waiting too see how much value she possibly has though could be a reason .



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I don't see why the Sparks would risk tinkering with what they got now, other than maybe upgrading some bench pieces, unless their hand was forced. The core players probably feel the same. Are people speculating that Agler's all in on Chelsea Gray and feels Tolliver is expendable? Toliver's improved play last season was one of the keys to the Sparks improving, imo.



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Assuming all these returning players want the max (or close to it), it's going to be a bit of a tight cap exercise in LA as well. Remember, Riquna Williams's contract came off the cap when she got hurt and they suspended her last year, so that's back now. Which means they've now got Parker, Ogwumike, Lavender, Toliver, Beard, Carson and Williams all on top-end contracts. It's just about do-able, but it doesn't leave much wiggle room.



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LOL Toliver Will not be forced out of anywhere . Gray & Toliver can play together as they showed last season . Maybe just waiting too see how much value she possibly has though could be a reason .


If Gray is going to get more minutes, they have to come from somewhere -- Toliver, Beard or Carson. It's a zero sum game. You also have Riquana coming back, and the best pick at #4 is likely to be a guard. So while it's likely Toliver returns, it's hardly a no-brainer. As for checking her value, Toliver is going to get max. If LA doesn't give it to her, then someone else will. But if LA doesn't want to do it, then it's not such a LOL situation anymore is it?



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Assuming all these returning players want the max (or close to it), it's going to be a bit of a tight cap exercise in LA as well. Remember, Riquna Williams's contract came off the cap when she got hurt and they suspended her last year, so that's back now. Which means they've now got Parker, Ogwumike, Lavender, Toliver, Beard, Carson and Williams all on top-end contracts. It's just about do-able, but it doesn't leave much wiggle room.


They can learn from the Lynx and go with 11. Why would the Sparks need 12, like they'd ever use them in game situations, and they can use men for practice.



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LOL Toliver Will not be forced out of anywhere . Gray & Toliver can play together as they showed last season . Maybe just waiting too see how much value she possibly has though could be a reason .


If Gray is going to get more minutes, they have to come from somewhere -- Toliver, Beard or Carson. It's a zero sum game. You also have Riquana coming back, and the best pick at #4 is likely to be a guard. So while it's likely Toliver returns, it's hardly a no-brainer. As for checking her value, Toliver is going to get max. If LA doesn't give it to her, then someone else will. But if LA doesn't want to do it, then it's not such a LOL situation anymore is it?


Williams is coming off an injury so she will have to prove herself to be getting solid minutes off the bench and in Aglers rotation. She will bring some scoring and energy off the bench but i dont see her getting more then 15-18 min if Toliver, Beard and Carson are all re signed.

Beard was healthy all of last season and averaged 29 minutes. Her highest since 2012. If Agler wants to keep her healthy he should bring her minutes down a bit this season(to 25 min). Also i would have to see first if Carson can be as effective as she was last season.
So a guard rotation of Gray (PG) Williams at the 2 shouldnt be a problem at all. Certainly not with the length of Gray who is able to guard 2's if she is in good shape. The player will see even less minutes with the return of Williams is Dabovic. Is Agler going to trade her? Play her at the SF position Or is she not coming over this season because of Eurobasket?



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LOL Toliver Will not be forced out of anywhere . Gray & Toliver can play together as they showed last season . Maybe just waiting too see how much value she possibly has though could be a reason .


If Gray is going to get more minutes, they have to come from somewhere -- Toliver, Beard or Carson. It's a zero sum game. You also have Riquana coming back, and the best pick at #4 is likely to be a guard. So while it's likely Toliver returns, it's hardly a no-brainer. As for checking her value, Toliver is going to get max. If LA doesn't give it to her, then someone else will. But if LA doesn't want to do it, then it's not such a LOL situation anymore is it?


LA Will give her the Max and this conversation will be Null & Void . Carson or Beard are most likely to see the decline in Minutes for Grays Uprising . The Situation is still LOL



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LOL Toliver Will not be forced out of anywhere . Gray & Toliver can play together as they showed last season . Maybe just waiting too see how much value she possibly has though could be a reason .


If Gray is going to get more minutes, they have to come from somewhere -- Toliver, Beard or Carson. It's a zero sum game. You also have Riquana coming back, and the best pick at #4 is likely to be a guard. So while it's likely Toliver returns, it's hardly a no-brainer. As for checking her value, Toliver is going to get max. If LA doesn't give it to her, then someone else will. But if LA doesn't want to do it, then it's not such a LOL situation anymore is it?


LA Will give her the Max and this conversation will be Null & Void . Carson or Beard are most likely to see the decline in Minutes for Grays Uprising . The Situation is still LOL



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PostPosted: 01/25/17 12:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So what's the diffence between being a reserve or restricted free agent?

I rather have Tolo back than Gruda as backup post player. I wouldn't mind seeing Jelena D and Ana Dabovic resigned.


Indeed, it will be interesting to see if Tolo comes back. I still like Gruda's game and believe the connection she's building with Lav will be quite beneficial. Jelena had some good minutes when she got them (rarely) and Ana seemed to have taken a step back from 2015. The chemistry in LA was so good that in theory, I would love to see everyone back, but they definitely need folks that Coach will play.

Btw, can someone tell me the root of the idea that Toliver won't re-sign with LA? I'm not "hearing" it as strongly here as other places, but it really doesn't make sense...finally getting that 'ship, great team chemistry and she plays a critically important role on the squad. They depend on her and with Gray, have gotten her help at the PG spot. I've seen speculation about her going to Phx, I suppose because she is playing with BG and DT but her role is greatly reduced in Russia and I don't get a sense of how connected she really feels to them. She seems to be an extremely loyal person and between hearing her at the post championship celebration sharing how she ended up in LA and remembering her talk about being in tears when having to leave her team when she was trying to help Slovakia qualify for the World championships (I believe), I don't see her leaving. With Riquna being healthy and rumors about D. Rob coming to LA, she can comfortably move over to the 2 and play her natural position. We shall see!
I don't see KT leaving especially to go to Phx after the mess they were last season. Also like you said staying in LA gives her good chance to get another ring.


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So what's the diffence between being a reserve or restricted free agent?

I rather have Tolo back than Gruda as backup post player. I wouldn't mind seeing Jelena D and Ana Dabovic resigned.


Reserve players are not free agents. They can't talk to any team other than their current one.
Thanks, so kinda like the core tag.


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The "Player Movement Central" page is now up on the main page on .com.



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According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.



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According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


Toliver makes more sense.



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Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


Toliver makes more sense.

Since she's from VA, maybe she'd be interested in signing in DC if the Mystics EDD trade goes through. I was thinking maybe Thibault would get Larkins as a Dolson replacement, but she's short for a C.



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PostPosted: 01/28/17 9:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


It's a shared handle, if I recall correctly.

I don't know if I'd categorize Erlana Larkins as a big name free agent, but heaven knows Mike Thibault knows how to use physical, somewhat undersized posts.



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Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


It's a shared handle, if I recall correctly.

I don't know if I'd categorize Erlana Larkins as a big name free agent, but heaven knows Mike Thibault knows how to use physical, somewhat undersized posts.

Someone told me it was Mo, but it def makes sense if it's shared, because sometimes the grammar and overall language is different. You're right about Larkins not being "big name", but she's one of the better UFAs. I could see Thibault going after her



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PostPosted: 01/28/17 10:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mysticsfan12 wrote:
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Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


It's a shared handle, if I recall correctly.

I don't know if I'd categorize Erlana Larkins as a big name free agent, but heaven knows Mike Thibault knows how to use physical, somewhat undersized posts.

Someone told me it was Mo, but it def makes sense if it's shared, because sometimes the grammar and overall language is different. You're right about Larkins not being "big name", but she's one of the better UFAs. I could see Thibault going after her


It's shared and many of the posts are by "Andrew" who also updes them on here (awhom111, I believe)


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Queenie wrote:
Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


It's a shared handle, if I recall correctly.

I don't know if I'd categorize Erlana Larkins as a big name free agent, but heaven knows Mike Thibault knows how to use physical, somewhat undersized posts.


If the trade is as written, they'll absolutely need another starter due to losing 2 posts to Eurobasket. That goes double if Delle Donne's Lyme flare-up extends into June. Since Amber Cox posted something about looking forward to working with Jasmine Thomas, I'm taking that as a sign that she is returning to the Sun. So that leaves Larkins, Kristi Toliver and perhaps Plenette Pierson as the players I'd qualify as "big." There's also the cored players - Little and Langhorne - who might command some interest in a sign-and-trade.


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Mysticsfan12 wrote:
Queenie wrote:
Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


It's a shared handle, if I recall correctly.

I don't know if I'd categorize Erlana Larkins as a big name free agent, but heaven knows Mike Thibault knows how to use physical, somewhat undersized posts.

Someone told me it was Mo, but it def makes sense if it's shared, because sometimes the grammar and overall language is different. You're right about Larkins not being "big name", but she's one of the better UFAs. I could see Thibault going after her


Where do you see Thibault playing Delle Donne?

Vaughn
Delle Donne
One of Meesseman/Dolson
Sanders
Larkins? Why?

I would think Larkins first loyalty would be to IND, similar to Catchings.
IND is the first club to believe in Larkins and have kept her on despite shortcoming. Anything's possible I suppose, but it's hard for me to see Larkins going from her situation in IND to a crowded front court in WAS.



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Indy was my first guess for Larkins, but now I'm thinking SA, no reason, (except that SA needs a decent back up or starting center, depending on your opinion of Alexander) just a feeling.


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I've heard rumblings of De Souza to SA as a free agent. I hope the into that Currie gave about washington isn't true


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Mysticsfan12 wrote:
Queenie wrote:
Mysticsfan12 wrote:
According to to Mo Currie's twitter, @womensbball247 (I have no idea how the Stars/league let her have it) she's claiming the Mystics are targeting another "big name free agent". Larkins, most likely. Possibly Toliver, but I doubt she'd leave LA.


It's a shared handle, if I recall correctly.

I don't know if I'd categorize Erlana Larkins as a big name free agent, but heaven knows Mike Thibault knows how to use physical, somewhat undersized posts.

Someone told me it was Mo, but it def makes sense if it's shared, because sometimes the grammar and overall language is different. You're right about Larkins not being "big name", but she's one of the better UFAs. I could see Thibault going after her

The posts on the website is shared with Rebkell's Awhom111. But the twitter feed is Mo.



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Called it on Larkins. She re-sign with IND, as does Poison Pill.
http://fever.wnba.com/news/fever-re-sign-erlana-larkins-erica-wheeler/



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CORE PLAYERS
DeWanna Bonner (Phoenix)
Crystal Langhorne (Seattle)
Camille Little (Connecticut)
Angel McCoughtry (Atlanta)
Tanisha Wright (New York)

RESERVED PLAYERS
Farhiya Abdi (Los Angeles)
Rebecca Allen (New York)
Valeriane Ayayi (San Antonio)
Vicki Baugh (San Antonio)
Tiffany Bias (Dallas)
Abby Bishop (Seattle)
Sydney Colson (San Antonio)
Anna Cruz (Minnesota)
Ana Dabovic (Los Angeles)
Clarissa Dos Santos (Chicago)
Jelena Dubljevic (Los Angeles)
Cayla George (Phoenix)
Keisha Hampton (Minnesota)
Haley Peters (San Antonio)
Sonja Petrovic (Phoenix)
Meighan Simmons (Atlanta)
Marianna Tolo (Los Angeles)
Erica Wheeler IND
Marta Xargay (Phoenix)

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Kayla Alexander (sa)
Alex Bentley (Connecticut)
Kelsey Bone (Phoenix)
Layshia Clarendon (Atlanta)
Elena Delle Donne (Chicago)
Kelly Faris (Connecticut)
Brittney Griner (Phoenix)
Sandrine Gruda (Los Angeles)
Tayler Hill (Washington)
Kayla Pedersen (Connecticut)
Jeanette Pohlen (Indiana)
Sugar Rodgers (New York)
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt (Washington)
Krystal Thomas (Seattle)

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Mistie Bass
Alana Beard
Essence Carson
Erika de Souza
Markeisha Gatling
Whitney Knight
Erlana Larkins IND
Janel McCarville
Leilani Mitchell
Plenette Pierson
Asia Taylor
Jasmine Thomas
Kristi Toliver
Ann Wauters
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