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 Posted: 12/22/16 11:57 am ::: Republicans still hate gays |
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-north-carolina-hb2-story.html
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It was billed as an opportunity to end the nation’s most bitter political stalemate over LGBT rights. Yet as dusk fell on North Carolina’s Capitol on Wednesday, legislators refused to repeal House Bill 2, which limits transgender bathroom access and curbs legal protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.
On Monday, Gov.-elect Roy Cooper, a Democrat, announced that Republican House and Senate leaders had assured him that after the city of Charlotte repealed its anti-discrimination ordinance, a special session would be called to “repeal HB2 in full.”
Yet after hours of intense backroom maneuvering Wednesday, legislators in the Senate offered only a compromise bill that repealed HB2 while introducing a moratorium, or “cooling-off period,” that would prevent local governments across the state from crafting or changing anti-discrimination ordinances
After 5:30 p.m., the House voted 58 to 45 to adjourn, ignoring the pleas of two Democratic representatives. The Senate did the same less than an hour later. |
It is still illegal in the state of North Carolina for cities and towns to try to protect LGBT discrimination. When you vote for Republicans, this is the evil you support. You caused it and you own it.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 12:06 pm ::: Re: Republicans still hate gays |
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I misread the article in the first post. It is even worse than I originally read. Republicans in North Carolina did not repeal any of the bill, even after promising to.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/us/north-carolina-fails-to-repeal-bathroom-law-that-prompted-boycotts.html?_r=0
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There was some expectation that the Senate would approve the bill with the six-month cooling off plan and send it over to the House for a vote.
But the bill never came. The House moved to adjourn. The Senate considered a last-ditch effort to salvage the session after a Democrat complained that Charlotte was “getting shoved one more time,” and a Republican condemned the city for orchestrating “the worst political stunt that I’ve ever seen.”
But eventually senators, too, voted to go home. |
Republican evil on display.
When will Democrats realize there is no such thing as good faith with these power-mad, evil people?
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| Posted: 12/22/16 3:25 pm ::: Re: Republicans still hate gays |
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| I love Obama, but trying to be bipartisan with these people was his biggest mistake.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 3:51 pm ::: Re: Republicans still hate gays |
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| mercfan3 wrote: |
| I love Obama, but trying to be bipartisan with these people was his biggest mistake. |
And they still keep falling for it.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 8:45 pm ::: |
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All Republicans are scum.
NC is so fucked.
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| Posted: 07/28/17 11:14 am ::: |
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And the beat goes on.
And I had been so naïve as to believe this kind of retrogression was a real unlikelihood. This admin has definitely mastered the art of tossing raw meat chunks to its base, to say ever UNfocused on Real Concerns.
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| Posted: 07/28/17 1:31 pm ::: |
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| The GOP sucks.
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| Posted: 08/10/17 10:31 pm ::: |
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"Stupid Is As Stupid Does".
FORTUNATELY (?) that would be the [mentally deficient] voters: not even GOP pols would go for that. (would they??)
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| Posted: 08/11/17 11:08 am ::: |
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| The astounding thing about the voter fraud nonsense is that Democrats are notorious for not voting at all, let alone voting twice.
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| Posted: 08/11/17 11:23 am ::: |
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| The astounding thing about the voter fraud nonsense is that Democrats are notorious for not voting at all, let alone voting twice. |
Historically, Democrats are quite famous for voter fraud. Tammany Hall was a Democratic machine. Chicago is notorious for its Democratic graveyard voters and other shenanigans. Are we to believe they suddenly stopped?
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| Posted: 08/11/17 12:06 pm ::: |
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| The astounding thing about the voter fraud nonsense is that Democrats are notorious for not voting at all, let alone voting twice. |
Historically, Democrats are quite famous for voter fraud. Tammany Hall was a Democratic machine. Chicago is notorious for its Democratic graveyard voters and other shenanigans. Are we to believe they suddenly stopped? |
All of which has little in common with today's Democrats. Hell, it was New Deal Democrats who destroyed Tammany Hall (starting with FDR). It's like the same equivocal nonsense that is used to call the GOP the "Party of Lincoln". Sure, they use the same words "Democrat" and "Republican", but the beliefs of the two parties have little to nothing in common with ealier versions of those groups. In fact, a lot of the contemporary beliefs are diametrically opposed to those previous iterations. Equating these historical groups with contemporary ones is therefore the logical fallacy of equivocation.
That all said, corruption has a potential to exist wherever there is power. But that is much different from the types of fraud that Trump and the GOP are crowing about. In fact, that type of fraud is more in line with the gerrymandered districs and voter suppression techniques wielded by contemporary Republicans.
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| Posted: 08/11/17 12:59 pm ::: |
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| the gerrymandered districs and voter suppression techniques wielded by contemporary Republicans. |
All of which they learned from the Democrats, who use them and more when they have the chance. Democrat run states are just as gerrymandered as Republican run states. The only cure for that is non-partisan districting, like California adopted over the opposition of all the Democratic heavyweights.
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| Posted: 08/11/17 1:11 pm ::: |
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| the gerrymandered districs and voter suppression techniques wielded by contemporary Republicans. |
All of which they learned from the Democrats, who use them and more when they have the chance. Democrat run states are just as gerrymandered as Republican run states. The only cure for that is non-partisan districting, like California adopted over the opposition of all the Democratic heavyweights. |
Yes. Though it is currently the Democrats who are calling for the end to the practice (and who are fighting it in the Supreme Court).
Historical arguments are entirely pointless when discussing current actions, epecially when the entities have changed so dramatically. But the reality remains, that gerrymandered districts and voter suppression techniques are more of a fraud to the political process than the empirically insignificant "voter fraud" that Dear Leader Trump keeps tweeting about and that his base has decided is the "truth".
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