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PostPosted: 01/29/17 5:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I agree she seems to be a really NICE person, but her teams have underperformed consistently, and not by just a little bit. I had hopes this year because it seemed they finally had a couple of shooters that would open up the middle a bit for Anigwe. I like Thomas. Range and Cowling are very athletic. And Davidson has been better than expected. It's like they have all the pieces and just can't put it together. THat's the part that drives me nuts. They're currently 3-6 in P12 and that's because they got to play Arizona twice. Since they also get to play Colo/Utah twice (split the first time) they have a chance to end at 9-9 if they win every game that it looks possible for them to win. I'm guessing more likely 8-10 or even 7-11. For the amount of talent, this is (to me) simply unacceptable.


I will say this. She certainly has a die-hard group of supporters who leap to her defense whenever anyone watches them play and then wonders how she keeps her job.


and now they lose at WSU which is one of the games I thought they needed to win in order to finish at .500



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PostPosted: 01/30/17 12:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
I agree she seems to be a really NICE person, but her teams have underperformed consistently, and not by just a little bit. I had hopes this year because it seemed they finally had a couple of shooters that would open up the middle a bit for Anigwe. I like Thomas. Range and Cowling are very athletic. And Davidson has been better than expected. It's like they have all the pieces and just can't put it together. THat's the part that drives me nuts. They're currently 3-6 in P12 and that's because they got to play Arizona twice. Since they also get to play Colo/Utah twice (split the first time) they have a chance to end at 9-9 if they win every game that it looks possible for them to win. I'm guessing more likely 8-10 or even 7-11. For the amount of talent, this is (to me) simply unacceptable.


I will say this. She certainly has a die-hard group of supporters who leap to her defense whenever anyone watches them play and then wonders how she keeps her job.


That sounds a lot like another coach I know.


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PostPosted: 01/30/17 2:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Her personality just is a good fit for the Berkeley lifestyle and I am guessing her administration really likes her.


A coach once told me: "But for a few notable exceptions, women's basketball doesn't make money for anyone — so people have to like you".

People *like* Lindsey. Part of the reason for that is that she genuinely likes other people. She had zero reason to put up with me for several years — for five seasons, if I showed up at the building (last year as an assistant at Cal, three years at UCSB, first year as Cal HC), her team lost. Yet she always had time to talk post-game (and even when Lindsey didn't have to talk to me — because Cal didn't recognize me as press for a long while — she made sure I had a good place to sit).

I'll always support Coach Gottlieb.

This year, like last year, Cal's too inexperienced. That won't be a viable excuse next season, and I don't reckon they'll need one.


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PostPosted: 02/07/17 1:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Terri Williams is safe. She's popular and they are 13-5, 3-1 and barring a complete disaster or injury, will be in the mix of the 7-8 SEC teams for the NCAAs.

Seems they've recruited some size (some) for next year, too.


Now her team is 15-9 and 5-5 in conference play. The only SEC team that Auburn has beat to date with a winning conference record is Tennessee. They have played several ranked teams, but have yet to beat a ranked team this season. Losing at home by 30 to Ms State Thursday night was pathetic.


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PostPosted: 02/11/17 6:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tina Martin at Delaware needs to retire. Definitely. After what I saw last night I think she is either incompetent or just burned out. That team was so poorly coached and poorly conditioned it was painful to watch. I realize she only had 8 players dressed so may have injury problems, but 5 of them played 29-37 minutes and a 6th played 25 minutes. They were all so gassed by the 3rd quarter they couldn't keep up. The other 2 barely played at all. And all of them were continually looking at the bench to see what they were supposed to do next.Crying or Very sad It made me wonder if the reason they did so well when Delle Donne was playing for them was that SHE was actually doing most of the coaching as well as carrying the team on her shoulders.



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PostPosted: 02/13/17 2:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PRballer wrote:
Terri Williams is safe. She's popular and they are 13-5, 3-1 and barring a complete disaster or injury, will be in the mix of the 7-8 SEC teams for the NCAAs.

Seems they've recruited some size (some) for next year, too.


Yesterday I was able to witness first hand that "complete disaster" coming to fruition. Once 13-5, Auburn is now 15-11, 5-7 in SEC, after losing to a Georgia team that is now 13-12. Its great to be able to force 20+ turnovers, but when you shoot 24% it doesn't matter.


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PostPosted: 02/14/17 11:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html



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PostPosted: 02/15/17 5:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


He is such a gentleman. He also speaks his mind and wouldn't take the time to say that if he didn't honestly believe it.


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PostPosted: 02/17/17 2:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I hear its getting hot in the kitchen down at Auburn. Thursday night was another loss, this time to Ole Miss Embarassed


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PostPosted: 02/17/17 3:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'd say Joanne Boyle poured a bucket of ice water over her seat this week. Beating FSU, on the heels of their 49 point beat down of VaTech, likely removes any threat to her job security.

I'm guessing they still need to beat Louisville and or NCSt, or win a couple rounds in the ACCT, to make the NCAA tournament, but still, it's certainly an improvement.


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PostPosted: 02/17/17 5:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
I'd say Joanne Boyle poured a bucket of ice water over her seat this week. Beating FSU, on the heels of their 49 point beat down of VaTech, likely removes any threat to her job security.

I'm guessing they still need to beat Louisville and or NCSt, or win a couple rounds in the ACCT, to make the NCAA tournament, but still, it's certainly an improvement.


It's an interesting dilemma. On one hand at a micro level she is on the upswing. At a macro level this is her 6th season at Virginia and she has never made the tournament and even now they have some work to do. She hasn't strung together consecutive good classes, I think that's what hurt. The freshman class is good but next year all they have 1 is unheralded guard coming in.


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PostPosted: 02/17/17 6:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


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PostPosted: 02/17/17 8:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Durantula wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
I'd say Joanne Boyle poured a bucket of ice water over her seat this week. Beating FSU, on the heels of their 49 point beat down of VaTech, likely removes any threat to her job security.

I'm guessing they still need to beat Louisville and or NCSt, or win a couple rounds in the ACCT, to make the NCAA tournament, but still, it's certainly an improvement.


It's an interesting dilemma. On one hand at a micro level she is on the upswing. At a macro level this is her 6th season at Virginia and she has never made the tournament and even now they have some work to do. She hasn't strung together consecutive good classes, I think that's what hurt. The freshman class is good but next year all they have 1 is unheralded guard coming in.


I don't think the UVA AD is worried enough about it. I think those two wins provide them more than enough cover to keep her. Heck maybe she can build something around the 6'9" girl.

It may also be one of those "who are we going to get that we're sure would be any better," deals too.

I think she's safe for a while.


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PostPosted: 02/17/17 10:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zvyn3 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


She is in year 5. She has been to 3 Elite 8s and one Sweet 16, was SEC Reg season champ in 2 of the 4 years completed to date, and won the SEC Tourn in 2014. She is clearly an awful coach that has no idea what she is doing..... rofl.

2012–13 27–8 14–2 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2013–14 29–6 13–3 NCAA Sweet Sixteen - SEC Tourn Ch
2014–15 30–6 15–1 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2015–16 22–14 8–8 NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 16–10 7–6


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PostPosted: 02/18/17 5:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PlayBally'all wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


She is in year 5. She has been to 3 Elite 8s and one Sweet 16, was SEC Reg season champ in 2 of the 4 years completed to date, and won the SEC Tourn in 2014. She is clearly an awful coach that has no idea what she is doing..... rofl.

2012–13 27–8 14–2 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2013–14 29–6 13–3 NCAA Sweet Sixteen - SEC Tourn Ch
2014–15 30–6 15–1 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2015–16 22–14 8–8 NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 16–10 7–6


She has the benefit of having really good players still want to play at Tennessee. Once they get there, she doesn't know what to do with then, because yes, she is a completely awful coach. If Auriemma had the exact roster she has had the last few years, he'd be winning national championships. Next year, she'll be bailed out at times because she has a good class coming in, but they're honestly won't be any better because of the shitty coach they have.


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PostPosted: 02/18/17 7:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
PlayBally'all wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


She is in year 5. She has been to 3 Elite 8s and one Sweet 16, was SEC Reg season champ in 2 of the 4 years completed to date, and won the SEC Tourn in 2014. She is clearly an awful coach that has no idea what she is doing..... rofl.

2012–13 27–8 14–2 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2013–14 29–6 13–3 NCAA Sweet Sixteen - SEC Tourn Ch
2014–15 30–6 15–1 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2015–16 22–14 8–8 NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 16–10 7–6


She has the benefit of having really good players still want to play at Tennessee. Once they get there, she doesn't know what to do with then, because yes, she is a completely awful coach. If Auriemma had the exact roster she has had the last few years, he'd be winning national championships. Next year, she'll be bailed out at times because she has a good class coming in, but they're honestly won't be any better because of the shitty coach they have.


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PostPosted: 02/18/17 11:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PlayBally'all wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


She is in year 5. She has been to 3 Elite 8s and one Sweet 16, was SEC Reg season champ in 2 of the 4 years completed to date, and won the SEC Tourn in 2014. She is clearly an awful coach that has no idea what she is doing..... rofl.

2012–13 27–8 14–2 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2013–14 29–6 13–3 NCAA Sweet Sixteen - SEC Tourn Ch
2014–15 30–6 15–1 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2015–16 22–14 8–8 NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 16–10 7–6



Too bad Elite Eights and Sweet Sixteens are NOT the standard of Lady Vol Basketball. They're expected to compete for championships. She's had superior talent throughout her five years and regularly loses to inferior teams. No competent offensive system, no ball movement, and no player development. And that's just scratching the surface. She's destroyed one of the university's proudest traditions. Lost 24 games (and counting) the past two seasons. The players and fans deserve better.


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PostPosted: 02/18/17 11:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She could lose to a middle school team and people would still make excuses for her.


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PostPosted: 02/19/17 1:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rutgers is terrible this year ... and hasn't been relevant for a long time.

I think CViv has a big, long contract, and maybe Rutgers doesn't care. But I would think the Big 10 would like the team closest to New York to be worth mentioning now and again ...



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PostPosted: 02/19/17 1:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Rutgers is terrible this year ... and hasn't been relevant for a long time.

I think CViv has a big, long contract, and maybe Rutgers doesn't care. But I would think the Big 10 would like the team closest to New York to be worth mentioning now and again ...


Right now Rutgers is third from the bottom in league standings, compared to last in men's basketball and finishing last in football. Both of those coaches are in their first year, meaning they paid to fire to coaches last year. Not sure they will have the finances to fire the coach that is heading just one of many terrible programs at the school.

So far, the move to the B10 has been an unmitigated disaster for Rutgers in terms of wins and losses.


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PostPosted: 02/19/17 5:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Rutgers is terrible this year ... and hasn't been relevant for a long time.

I think CViv has a big, long contract, and maybe Rutgers doesn't care. But I would think the Big 10 would like the team closest to New York to be worth mentioning now and again ...


Right now Rutgers is third from the bottom in league standings, compared to last in men's basketball and finishing last in football. Both of those coaches are in their first year, meaning they paid to fire to coaches last year. Not sure they will have the finances to fire the coach that is heading just one of many terrible programs at the school.

So far, the move to the B10 has been an unmitigated disaster for Rutgers in terms of wins and losses.


Yeah, but they're making more money. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 02/20/17 3:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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She could lose to a middle school team and people would still make excuses for her.


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zvyn3 wrote:
PlayBally'all wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


She is in year 5. She has been to 3 Elite 8s and one Sweet 16, was SEC Reg season champ in 2 of the 4 years completed to date, and won the SEC Tourn in 2014. She is clearly an awful coach that has no idea what she is doing..... rofl.

2012–13 27–8 14–2 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2013–14 29–6 13–3 NCAA Sweet Sixteen - SEC Tourn Ch
2014–15 30–6 15–1 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2015–16 22–14 8–8 NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 16–10 7–6



Too bad Elite Eights and Sweet Sixteens are NOT the standard of Lady Vol Basketball. They're expected to compete for championships. She's had superior talent throughout her five years and regularly loses to inferior teams. No competent offensive system, no ball movement, and no player development. And that's just scratching the surface. She's destroyed one of the university's proudest traditions. Lost 24 games (and counting) the past two seasons. The players and fans deserve better.


If that segment of fans isn't careful, they will find themselves in the same predicament the football program has been in for over a decade. Things aren't as bad as you make them out to be. I can only laugh when you make a comment like she is "clearly an awful coach." I have sat no the first row behind the coaches and players and I can attest to the fact that she isn't an awful coach. My opinion is that she needs to shake up her staff somewhat, but that can be done. They aren't great either, but to act as though that staff has no idea as to what they are doing is patently ridiculous.


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PostPosted: 02/21/17 12:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Auburn lost a 6th consecutive game tonight. This loss was to Alabama. An announcement should be coming within the next 2 weeks.


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Cal is ... struggling.


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I suspect it's getting warmer for Insell Jr. at Ole Miss. he's in his 4th year

I don't think the Jimmy Dykes Experience is gaining steam but it's only year three.

June Daughtery I don't know. Wassu is the Rutgers of the West Coast insofar as all the teams are so bad that where do you start to lean up that mess?



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June Daughtery I don't know. Wassu is the Rutgers of the West Coast insofar as all the teams are so bad that where do you start to lean up that mess?


As iffy as Wazzu WBB has been under the current regime, they've actually never-- in the entire history of the program-- been better.


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Nikki Fargas is having a better than expected season, perhaps due to the inclusion of DeMoss as assistant, but women's basketball is the biggest money loser for the University at 3.8M. Fargas' salary is 700K and wbb's revenues are higher than any other non-revenue sport than softball. But the expenses are nearly as much as baseball, which made a profit. Will that be enough to put her on the hot seat this season? Probably not, but since she only has another year left on her contract, so I'd expect LSU to go in another direction after her contract is up.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/833771899989667840


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PlayBally'all wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
PlayBally'all wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
For those who are constantly criticizing Holly Warlick, I think this was a REALLY nice defense of her by one of her toughest rivals. http://www.local8now.com/content/sports/Texas-AM-head-coach-Gary-Blair-defends-Holly-Warlick-413537963.html


Of course her rivals would want her to stay. They know they have a pretty damn good chance of winning every time they face her.


She is in year 5. She has been to 3 Elite 8s and one Sweet 16, was SEC Reg season champ in 2 of the 4 years completed to date, and won the SEC Tourn in 2014. She is clearly an awful coach that has no idea what she is doing..... rofl.

2012–13 27–8 14–2 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2013–14 29–6 13–3 NCAA Sweet Sixteen - SEC Tourn Ch
2014–15 30–6 15–1 NCAA Elite Eight - Reg Season SEC Ch
2015–16 22–14 8–8 NCAA Elite Eight
2016–17 16–10 7–6



Too bad Elite Eights and Sweet Sixteens are NOT the standard of Lady Vol Basketball. They're expected to compete for championships. She's had superior talent throughout her five years and regularly loses to inferior teams. No competent offensive system, no ball movement, and no player development. And that's just scratching the surface. She's destroyed one of the university's proudest traditions. Lost 24 games (and counting) the past two seasons. The players and fans deserve better.


If that segment of fans isn't careful, they will find themselves in the same predicament the football program has been in for over a decade. Things aren't as bad as you make them out to be. I can only laugh when you make a comment like she is "clearly an awful coach." I have sat no the first row behind the coaches and players and I can attest to the fact that she isn't an awful coach. My opinion is that she needs to shake up her staff somewhat, but that can be done. They aren't great either, but to act as though that staff has no idea as to what they are doing is patently ridiculous.


What you said. She already shook it up some with the firing of Kyra Elzy (who I really hated to see go, but it was time) and the hiring of Sharonna Reaves to be the recruiting coordinator and assistant coach. I'm pretty sure she was instrumental in putting that amazing class together. Personally I think it's probably time for Dean to go, but it remains to be seen whether he will. He's been there so long I think he's rooted to the floor.



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PostPosted: 02/21/17 12:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LitePal wrote:
Nikki Fargas is having a better than expected season, perhaps due to the inclusion of DeMoss as assistant, but women's basketball is the biggest money loser for the University at 3.8M. Fargas' salary is 700K and wbb's revenues are higher than any other non-revenue sport than softball. But the expenses are nearly as much as baseball, which made a profit. Will that be enough to put her on the hot seat this season? Probably not, but since she only has another year left on her contract, so I'd expect LSU to go in another direction after her contract is up.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/833771899989667840


LSU gets so much revenue from football that I'm not convinced that money will be part of the issue with her. They also are in line to receive an additional $14-$17 million from the SEC Network this year. Having said that, recruiting and wins and losses will be an issue soon if not now. I think you are correct in that she is probably safe this year, but the natives are indeed getting restless. Personally, I believe that she is a good coach, but I have wondered if she has been distracted with a new baby and marriage etc. Something has definitely been off from her start to now.


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PostPosted: 02/21/17 12:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Recruiting for LSU has gone up as well but remember when Alleva signed her extension, he also suggested that LSU wbb is not where it should be, either as a winning program or a spectator program. He also suggested it could make money, which we now see is pretty much impossible. He talked about better marketing but Fargas was a PR whiz at UCLA, brilliant at self promotion and hiding program deficiencies which allowed her the huge LSU contract. Some of the same methods are perhaps not going over as well there as in Hollywood. I think he and the fan base have sort of tired of Fargas and the concept of giving her another season has become stale. Attendance for 2015-16 went up...by 19 fans. (2858-2839)

http://www.wafb.com/story/28909909/alleva-lsu-needs-to-revitalize-womens-basketball


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PostPosted: 02/22/17 11:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Extension might ease some of Auburn hot seat talk ...

http://www.oanow.com/sports/college/auburn/basketball/women/terri-williams-flournoy-s-contract-extended-through/article_91b73b5e-f918-11e6-95ea-2fab7160ceda.html


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thefutureisbright wrote:
Extension might ease some of Auburn hot seat talk ...

http://www.oanow.com/sports/college/auburn/basketball/women/terri-williams-flournoy-s-contract-extended-through/article_91b73b5e-f918-11e6-95ea-2fab7160ceda.html


This was done last June. This doesn't mean that there won't be a dismissal and a payout.


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Are payouts really done for the women's game unless they really feel the need to release someone, like Yori for instance.



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Are payouts really done for the women's game unless they really feel the need to release someone, like Yori for instance.


Actually yes, at least at the bigger schools. A contract is a contract.



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Shades wrote:
Are payouts really done for the women's game unless they really feel the need to release someone, like Yori for instance.


Actually yes, at least at the bigger schools. A contract is a contract.


The question I have is why would any coach keep a contract extension hush? Wouldn't any coach scream that from the rafters? Especially one as recruiting challenged as this staff has been. The only reason we know about it today was the result of a FOI request filed by several news outlets. Immediately after the Opelika/Auburn News ran the story, the athletic department issued a statement that "Coach Terri Williams-Flournoy and the women's basketball program will be evaluated at the conclusion of the season."

They are getting some serious blow back today and they deserve every ear full they are being subjected to. They spend money like its water. $600,000 is a nice salary. Its especially nice when you aren't earning it.


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What about Marlene Stollings for the Gophers?


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I think the heat is turning up for Maren Walseth at NDSU. Only her third year at Bisonville but record is 24-61 (10-33 in Summit League). Her predecessor had left things a steaming pile but the AD who hired Walseth is gone and the new guy might be looking at making a statement with his first new hire. So wouldn't be surprised if she was put out in the cold.



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PostPosted: 02/23/17 12:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I suspect it's getting warmer for Insell Jr. at Ole Miss. he's in his 4th year

I don't think the Jimmy Dykes Experience is gaining steam but it's only year three.

June Daughtery I don't know. Wassu is the Rutgers of the West Coast insofar as all the teams are so bad that where do you start to lean up that mess?


Insell Jr seat will warm by next year if he does not perform better. We all have to remember, no matter how good of a recruiter you are, its still Ole Miss and not a easy place to recruit to.

Jimmy Dykes is figuring out the same thing. Not alot of big time players want to go to Arkansas.


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PlayBally'all wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Shades wrote:
Are payouts really done for the women's game unless they really feel the need to release someone, like Yori for instance.


Actually yes, at least at the bigger schools. A contract is a contract.


The question I have is why would any coach keep a contract extension hush? Wouldn't any coach scream that from the rafters? Especially one as recruiting challenged as this staff has been. The only reason we know about it today was the result of a FOI request filed by several news outlets. Immediately after the Opelika/Auburn News ran the story, the athletic department issued a statement that "Coach Terri Williams-Flournoy and the women's basketball program will be evaluated at the conclusion of the season."

They are getting some serious blow back today and they deserve every ear full they are being subjected to. They spend money like its water. $600,000 is a nice salary. Its especially nice when you aren't earning it.


Pam Borton received a super-secret extension by outgoing Gopher AD Joel Maturi in 2012. It extended her contract but also made for a favorable buy-out clause for the university should they excercise this option.



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Tina Martin at Delaware needs to retire. Definitely. After what I saw last night I think she is either incompetent or just burned out. That team was so poorly coached and poorly conditioned it was painful to watch. I realize she only had 8 players dressed so may have injury problems, but 5 of them played 29-37 minutes and a 6th played 25 minutes. They were all so gassed by the 3rd quarter they couldn't keep up. The other 2 barely played at all. And all of them were continually looking at the bench to see what they were supposed to do next.Crying or Very sad It made me wonder if the reason they did so well when Delle Donne was playing for them was that SHE was actually doing most of the coaching as well as carrying the team on her shoulders.


Since the JMU game, Martin has suspended Jr F Sade Chapman (who had 14 points against the Dukes) . They haven't won since the suspension but they played Drexel tough in an OT loss in Philadelphia their last outing .



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NoDakSt wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Tina Martin at Delaware needs to retire. Definitely. After what I saw last night I think she is either incompetent or just burned out. That team was so poorly coached and poorly conditioned it was painful to watch. I realize she only had 8 players dressed so may have injury problems, but 5 of them played 29-37 minutes and a 6th played 25 minutes. They were all so gassed by the 3rd quarter they couldn't keep up. The other 2 barely played at all. And all of them were continually looking at the bench to see what they were supposed to do next.Crying or Very sad It made me wonder if the reason they did so well when Delle Donne was playing for them was that SHE was actually doing most of the coaching as well as carrying the team on her shoulders.


Since the JMU game, Martin has suspended Jr F Sade Chapman (who had 14 points against the Dukes) . They haven't won since the suspension but they played Drexel tough in an OT loss in Philadelphia their last outing .


Drexel is not what it was last year. And my comment about the Blue Hens' conditioning stands. They didn't have Enabosi for the JMU game (flu) but I doubt she would have made that much difference. JMU ran their legs off.



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Lillian Hidgepork wrote:

Insell Jr seat will warm by next year if he does not perform better. We all have to remember, no matter how good of a recruiter you are, its still Ole Miss and not a easy place to recruit to.


It's true, but you also have to consider that Mississippi State is ranked #2, so if there was ever a poor time to make that argument, this would be it...


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Matt5762 wrote:
Lillian Hidgepork wrote:

Insell Jr seat will warm by next year if he does not perform better. We all have to remember, no matter how good of a recruiter you are, its still Ole Miss and not a easy place to recruit to.


It's true, but you also have to consider that Mississippi State is ranked #2, so if there was ever a poor time to make that argument, this would be it...


What was the score tonight and what recruits does Ole Miss have coming? Rest my case. Miss St lost to a bad depleted Kentucky team. Vic has it going there. Insell Jr does not. He will bolt first chance he has. He is a smart young man.


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Auburn lost to a bad Georgia team for the second time in as many weeks. The mood in the stands is not good. Time will tell.


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Adele Harris, North Carolina-Wilmington. 41-111 in five years, so far. Never finished higher than fifth in-conference. Contract ends in 2018 but the AD might just decide, "hey, no one cares anyway" and let her go after next season.

Cheryl Sorenson, Portland. 13-77 after just three seasons. Normally you'd wait a little bit longer, but after finishing dead last for three years straight it might be time to pull the plug.

Ryan Weisenberg, Pepperdine. 28-94 over four seasons. Every night, Weisenberg goes to sleep and thanks fate that Portland is in the WCC. Has finished 10th, 9th, 9th, and 9th.

Kerry Cremeans, Denver. 42-111 over five seasons. Barring a sweet tournament run, this seat is pretty hot.

Cleve Wright, Miami (OH).
34-86 over four seasons. The move up from DII to DI has proven a bit more difficult that Wright imagined. He appears to be stuck at 8-10 wins per season.


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Auburn lost to a bad Georgia team for the second time in as many weeks. The mood in the stands is not good. Time will tell.


That Georgia team isn't that bad. Joni Taylor is doing a pretty decent job for being only in her second season. She's brought in some good players. Caliya Robinson is killer!



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PlayBally'all wrote:
Auburn lost to a bad Georgia team for the second time in as many weeks. The mood in the stands is not good. Time will tell.


That Georgia team isn't that bad. Joni Taylor is doing a pretty decent job for being only in her second season. She's brought in some good players. Caliya Robinson is killer!


They will be good in the years to come, especially with the recruiting class she has coming in, but they were downright atrocious at times this year. They finished 16-15 and didn't beat a ranked opponent all year.

In addition to that, Georgia is one of Auburn's primary rivals. Auburn's campus is approx 30 miles from the Georgia state line and the two have a long history.


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PlayBally'all wrote:
Auburn lost to a bad Georgia team for the second time in as many weeks. The mood in the stands is not good. Time will tell.


That Georgia team isn't that bad. Joni Taylor is doing a pretty decent job for being only in her second season. She's brought in some good players. Caliya Robinson is killer!


They will be good in the years to come, especially with the recruiting class she has coming in, but they were downright atrocious at times this year. They finished 16-15 and didn't beat a ranked opponent all year.

In addition to that, Georgia is one of Auburn's primary rivals. Auburn's campus is approx 30 miles from the Georgia state line and the two have a long history.


You talk like I didn't know that. I lived 40 miles from Knoxville for 35 years and have been a Lady Vols fan since 1975. I think I know my SEC. Rolling Eyes



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PlayBally'all wrote:
Auburn lost to a bad Georgia team for the second time in as many weeks. The mood in the stands is not good. Time will tell.


That Georgia team isn't that bad. Joni Taylor is doing a pretty decent job for being only in her second season. She's brought in some good players. Caliya Robinson is killer!


They will be good in the years to come, especially with the recruiting class she has coming in, but they were downright atrocious at times this year. They finished 16-15 and didn't beat a ranked opponent all year.

In addition to that, Georgia is one of Auburn's primary rivals. Auburn's campus is approx 30 miles from the Georgia state line and the two have a long history.


I have to agree Georgia was GODAWFUL this year. We lost to Samford at home. The goal for this team was to keep the streak of .500 or better seasons alive. That was done, so it was a successful season, but no one would confuse this Georgia team with a bubble team. There are a couple of nice players on the team, but the point guard position is a disaster.


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