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PostPosted: 11/16/16 1:31 am    ::: 2016-17 TV Ratings Reply Reply with quote

As usual, most of these will come from sportstvratings.com

Figures are average viewers during the entire broadcast. Please let me know if you think I am missing a game although not all channels get rated.

11/14 UConn vs FSU ESPN2 338,000
11/14 Texas vs Stanford ESPN2 220,000


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PostPosted: 11/16/16 8:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

thanks for the ratings!



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11/20 UConn vs LSU ESPN 232,000


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11/27 Louisville vs South Carolina ESPN2 132,000


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12/1 South Carolina vs Texas ESPN2 215,000


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PostPosted: 12/06/16 9:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/4 Baylor vs Tennessee ESPN2 88,000
12/4 Texas vs UConn ESPN 425,000

For reference, the Women's College Cup on ESPNU averaged 64,000 and 133,000 for the semifinals and 131,000 for the final.


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PostPosted: 12/08/16 9:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/7 UConn vs Notre Dame ESPN2 729,000

Assuming I did not delete part of my records, I have that as higher than average viewership for any WNBA game last season by more than 130,000.


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PostPosted: 12/08/16 10:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

awhom111 wrote:
12/7 UConn vs Notre Dame ESPN2 729,000

Assuming I did not delete part of my records, I have that as higher than average viewership for any WNBA game last season by more than 130,000.


Seems right to me!


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PostPosted: 12/12/16 9:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/8 Texas A&M vs TCU FS1 45,000


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PostPosted: 12/13/16 9:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/11 UConn vs Kansas State FS1 200,000
12/11 Tennessee vs Texas FS1 85,000

For comparison, volleyball Sweet 16 games on Friday on ESPNU averaged 109,000/111,000/87,000/85,000. The Elite 8 games on Saturday on ESPNU were 239,000/309,000/251,000/297,000.


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PostPosted: 12/14/16 11:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So how do you get the college fans to watch the W?


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PostPosted: 12/16/16 9:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/15 DePaul vs Temple ESPNU 42,000

The volleyball semifinals on ESPN were very young skewing and made it into the top 50 cable original broadcasts yesterday despite not having big viewership totals. The second one had a weird gender skew. Ratings in percentages for that demographic group on average that were watching.

Stanford-Minnesota (495,000):
18-49: Total: .18 Women: .12 Men: .24
18-34: .21 Women 12-34: .14 Men 12-34: .22
25-54: .17 50+: .20

Texas-Nebraska (545,000):
18-49: Total: .21 Women: .19 Men: .23
18-34: .21 Women 12-34: .23 Men 12-34: .16
25-54: .20 50+: .21


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PostPosted: 12/16/16 9:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There's not much can be done about ratings when you can't even get the games.



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PostPosted: 12/20/16 10:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/18 UCLA vs South Carolina ESPN2 125,000

The skew of younger viewers towards females continues to intrigue me for volleyball since everything we've heard about sports ratings suggest that only NBC Olympics coverage skews female.

Saturday's Stanford-Texas final averaged 576,000 on ESPN2.

Here were the demographic breakdowns (each rating is a percent of that total demographic that were watching on average):
18-49: All: .18 Female: .15 Male .21
18-34: .14 Female 12-34: .15 Male 12-34: .13
25-54: .21 50+: .25


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PostPosted: 12/21/16 7:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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12/18 UCLA vs South Carolina ESPN2 125,000

The skew of younger viewers towards females continues to intrigue me for volleyball since everything we've heard about sports ratings suggest that only NBC Olympics coverage skews female.

Saturday's Stanford-Texas final averaged 576,000 on ESPN2.

Here were the demographic breakdowns (each rating is a percent of that total demographic that were watching on average):
18-49: All: .18 Female: .15 Male .21
18-34: .14 Female 12-34: .15 Male 12-34: .13
25-54: .21 50+: .25


Lets go apples to apples to see if Volleyball has passed us in popularity. do you have the round by round NCAA Women's tourney numbers from last year to compare with this year's volleyball tourney? (obviously revisiting this in march as well)



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PostPosted: 12/21/16 12:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

At the high school level, volleyball participation is rising significantly and basketball participation is holding steady or dropping.



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PostPosted: 12/21/16 4:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Not sure where else to put this, but I Just saw that ESPN2 has picked up Miami-Notre Dame game for later this year. Was not originally on their list of games to put on ESPN. Is there a way to find a full list of games ESPN has picked up? I presume they picked up more than one?


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PostPosted: 12/21/16 11:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
At the high school level, volleyball participation is rising significantly and basketball participation is holding steady or dropping.


What are the theories as to why and do any of them involve the WNBA?


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PostPosted: 12/22/16 12:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Durantula wrote:
Not sure where else to put this, but I Just saw that ESPN2 has picked up Miami-Notre Dame game for later this year. Was not originally on their list of games to put on ESPN. Is there a way to find a full list of games ESPN has picked up? I presume they picked up more than one?


ESPN has a few timeslots where they have flex options and pick which channel has which game out of a few choices. I guess that means our game with FSU will not be on ESPN2.

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awhom111 wrote:
12/18 UCLA vs South Carolina ESPN2 125,000

The skew of younger viewers towards females continues to intrigue me for volleyball since everything we've heard about sports ratings suggest that only NBC Olympics coverage skews female.

Saturday's Stanford-Texas final averaged 576,000 on ESPN2.

Here were the demographic breakdowns (each rating is a percent of that total demographic that were watching on average):
18-49: All: .18 Female: .15 Male .21
18-34: .14 Female 12-34: .15 Male 12-34: .13
25-54: .21 50+: .25


Lets go apples to apples to see if Volleyball has passed us in popularity. do you have the round by round NCAA Women's tourney numbers from last year to compare with this year's volleyball tourney? (obviously revisiting this in march as well)


The old thread has numbers here:
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=86116&start=50&sid=3f0a49378714177ec5e388784fc9c4f2

Volleyball has not passed basketball in popularity. Actually on a tournament to tournament basis, the Softball College World Series is the biggest threat. What I am interested in is the relatively gender skew since there is so much debate about whether male or female viewers should be targeted for basketball.

Who is us in this case? I may have worked in basketball, but I actually played volleyball and prefer watching it.


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PostPosted: 12/22/16 12:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I prefer playing volleyball; however, I grew up watching Stanford, and the statistics in basketball are far more interesting to me than volleyball stats for some reason.


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PostPosted: 12/22/16 9:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There are a lot of theories about the rise of volleyball relative to basketball, and here's the list (without explanation and in no particular order):

1) Volleyball is a non-contact sport
2) Volleyball uniforms, in general, are more flattering to the players
3) Basketball is an inner-city sport with inner-city attitudes on the court and in the stands
4) Basketball is dominated by African-Americans, a 12% minority, which makes it easier for young non-African-American girls to identify with players
5) The overt lesbian presence in basketball (other sports may have the same percentage but are not as visible out)



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Nice observations, Gilbert



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PostPosted: 12/30/16 12:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

12/28 Vanderbilt vs Memphis ESPNU 47,000


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PostPosted: 12/31/16 12:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A hundredth of a percentage point more in 18-49 viewers and we would have been able to see detailed demographic information for this one:
12/29 UConn vs Maryland ESPN2 602,000


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12/30 St. John's vs Seton Hall FS2 9,000

I guess if your ratings are below what they would be if a single Nielsen panelist watched the entire broadcast, you can experiment with new broadcast techniques like they did in this game.


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PostPosted: 01/04/17 8:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

We have a new leader for most watched game. Comparing to last year, it is crazy how the demographics of the CBS game changed based on lead-in. If I am missing a game, please let me know as we get more games during the weekends. Not all channels are rated.

12/31 Ohio State vs Indiana CBS 765,000
1/1 Alabama vs South Carolina ESPN2 51,000
1/1 Kentucky vs Tennessee ESPN2 127,000
1/1 Temple vs Memphis ESPN2 106,000
1/1 Tulsa vs Houston ESPNU 25,000
1/2 Seton Hall vs Butler FS1 28,000
1/2 Louisville vs Duke ESPNU 74,000
1/2 Creighton vs Marquette FS1 21,000


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These are stupid, when a lot of folks can't even GET some of the games Razz



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PostPosted: 01/06/17 1:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I suppose if the people who can already get the channels are not watching the game, getting more people the channels will not help too much.

The lowest subscribed channel I have listed so far is FS2, which is in around 50 million homes. Doubling that, which would be more than any cable channel basically, would not make viewership explode or anything. That said, it's important to be able to compare viewership within the channel to get an indication how important the games are for the future.

1/4 Baylor vs West Virginia FS2 19,000


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PostPosted: 01/06/17 11:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Fox Sports had yanked their channels from Comcast before that game. (Baylor-WVU) Just as a f'rinstance.



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PostPosted: 01/07/17 1:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Interestingly enough, poor availability of FS2 is one of the complaints that sports fans have about Comcast. We will see if that changes in the future. I have not seen any recent figures with all of the mergers today, but I believe Comcast is the provider for about 15% of the nation's television households.

1/5 Tennessee-Martin vs Belmont ESPNU 33,000


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PostPosted: 01/10/17 10:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think I have everything for Sunday:

1/8 South Carolina vs Florida ESPNU 50,000
1/8 Kansas vs Iowa State ESPNU 40,000
1/8 Villanova vs Providence FS1 26,000
1/8 Notre Dame vs Miami ESPN2 105,000
1/8 Oklahoma vs West Virginia FS1 39,000
1/8 UCLA vs Washington ESPN2 85,000
1/8 Tulane vs Temple ESPNU 7,000


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1/11 St. Bonaventure vs. Saint Louis NBCSN 21,000


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awhom111 wrote:
1/11 St. Bonaventure vs. Saint Louis NBCSN 21,000


I'm surprised it was that many ...



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ClayK wrote:
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1/11 St. Bonaventure vs. Saint Louis NBCSN 21,000


I'm surprised it was that many ...


That's the equivalent of 2 people in the whole Nielsen pool watching the whole game and 1 person stumbling upon it for 15 minutes.

If people want to complain about a channel not getting wide enough distribution:
1/12 UTEP vs FIU BeIN 3,000 *First run tape delay

In retrospect, I should have tuned in for the end of the replay instead of watching the St. Mary's men smother Portland.

The game went to triple overtime. Then the FIU men visited the UTEP men and that game went to double overtime.


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awhom111 wrote:

If people want to complain about a channel not getting wide enough distribution:
1/12 UTEP vs FIU BeIN 3,000 *First run tape delay


Wow, I thought that was a soccer only channel. I never saw anything else when looking through the guide!


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dinkytown wrote:
awhom111 wrote:

If people want to complain about a channel not getting wide enough distribution:
1/12 UTEP vs FIU BeIN 3,000 *First run tape delay


Wow, I thought that was a soccer only channel. I never saw anything else when looking through the guide!


That one maybe you can blame on the obscure network and tape delay, but what do you say about

"1/8 Tulane vs Temple ESPNU 7,000"


And if 21,000 is "the equivalent of 2 people in the whole Nielsen pool watching the whole game and 1 person stumbling upon it for 15 minutes" what's 7,000 represent?

A power surge on the Nielson box of one person who was actually watching "The Vikings" perhaps?


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1/13 St. John's vs Georgetown FS1 50,000


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dinkytown wrote:
awhom111 wrote:

If people want to complain about a channel not getting wide enough distribution:
1/12 UTEP vs FIU BeIN 3,000 *First run tape delay


Wow, I thought that was a soccer only channel. I never saw anything else when looking through the guide!


To be fair, other than an attempt to clean the reputation of Qatar, nobody knows what the channel is. They will have a handful of Conference USA events. Their football games did not do much better than a tape-delayed women's basketball game, so I have no idea what they paid the conference for these games. Besides soccer, they are the rights holder for a number of WTA events now.


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TN vs ND ratings anywhere ?



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TN vs ND ratings anywhere ?


The holiday pushed all the regular ratings releases back by a day. Here is everything that we have so far:

1/15 Dayton vs Saint Louis ESPNU 48,000
1/15 Butler vs Marquette FS1 32,000
1/15 Louisville vs Miami ESPN2 189,000
1/15 Baylor vs Kansas ESPNU 68,000
1/15 Ohio State vs Purdue ESPN2 150,000
1/16 Notre Dame vs Tennessee ESPN2 247,000


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awhom111 wrote:
dinkytown wrote:
awhom111 wrote:

If people want to complain about a channel not getting wide enough distribution:
1/12 UTEP vs FIU BeIN 3,000 *First run tape delay


Wow, I thought that was a soccer only channel. I never saw anything else when looking through the guide!


To be fair, other than an attempt to clean the reputation of Qatar, nobody knows what the channel is. They will have a handful of Conference USA events. Their football games did not do much better than a tape-delayed women's basketball game, so I have no idea what they paid the conference for these games. Besides soccer, they are the rights holder for a number of WTA events now.


They have a good half hour weekly magazine format series on motorcycles called On Two Wheels that I try to catch.

They also hold the US rights to several major motorcycle road racing series.


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PostPosted: 01/20/17 12:46 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

1/17 Oklahoma vs Texas FS1 76,000

For reference, an SEC gymnastics dual meet in the middle of that day on ESPNU averaged 67,000 viewers.


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1/19 Southern Miss vs North Texas BeIn 4,000 *First run tape delay


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Sportstvratings.com numbers are just cable viewership. Adding in people with sat dishes or people streaming the games would be a lot more. People are cutting the cord more frequently now. I'd like to see data from WatchESPN viewers as well as the conference and school games available by streaming.


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FrozenLVFan wrote:
Sportstvratings.com numbers are just cable viewership. Adding in people with sat dishes or people streaming the games would be a lot more. People are cutting the cord more frequently now. I'd like to see data from WatchESPN viewers as well as the conference and school games available by streaming.


They include satellite.

They don't include streaming, but when streaming numbers are released they are always, in my experience, insignificant compared to the TV numbers. ESPN does announce them on occassion. And for last spring's NCAA men's basketball tournament, the NCAA published the numbers. There were 22 million TV viewers for the championship game alone. In contrast, the streaming video for the entire tournament, every game, totalled 3.4 million live video streams and 1.1 million live hours of video consumption. They said that the total for TV and online combined was over 41 million hours of viewing for the full tournament, of which only the 1.1 million was online.

That's a 40:1 ratio, and the CBS March Madness Online is one of the most long-standing and best established streaming sports media products. It's free for everyone, high quality, and has for years been the means for people to watch the tournament while at work, so if anything one would expect it to outperform most other streaming sources.


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What a pack of amateurs. Spicer just held a press conference to castigate the media for mischaracterizing photos to claim inaccurate crowd size numbers.

They say this was the a largest audience EVER for an inauguration.

He cited Metro numbers that are entirely different than what has been reported all day on the local news radio channel.

What a crock of propoganda.

This asshole in the White House has the thinnest skin I've ever seen.

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What a pack of amateurs. Spicer just held a press conference to castigate the media for mischaracterizing photos to claim inaccurate crowd size numbers.

They say this was the a largest audience EVER for an inauguration.

He cited Metro numbers that are entirely different than what has been reported all day on the local news radio channel.

What a crock of propoganda.

This asshole in the White House has the thinnest skin I've ever seen.

"We're going to hold the press accountable too."


Maybe that's what WBB commentators should do. Just claim millions of people are watching even when they aren't.



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pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
What a pack of amateurs. Spicer just held a press conference to castigate the media for mischaracterizing photos to claim inaccurate crowd size numbers.

They say this was the a largest audience EVER for an inauguration.

He cited Metro numbers that are entirely different than what has been reported all day on the local news radio channel.

What a crock of propoganda.

This asshole in the White House has the thinnest skin I've ever seen.

"We're going to hold the press accountable too."


Maybe that's what WBB commentators should do. Just claim millions of people are watching even when they aren't.


Very Happy

The UTEP vs FIU WBB game on BeIN had the largest audience for any televised sporting event in the history of television and I am outraged by the media that has intentionally falsified data to claim only 3,000 people watched. We're going to hold the press accountable for these distortions.


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PostPosted: 01/21/17 6:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sorry, I just realized I was in the wrong thread in the wrong forum with these last couple of posts.

Never mind. Over to Area 51 where it belongs. Confused


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ArtBest23 wrote:
What a pack of amateurs. Spicer just held a press conference to castigate the media for mischaracterizing photos to claim inaccurate crowd size numbers.

They say this was the a largest audience EVER for an inauguration.

He cited Metro numbers that are entirely different than what has been reported all day on the local news radio channel.

What a crock of propoganda.

This asshole in the White House has the thinnest skin I've ever seen.

"We're going to hold the press accountable too."


Discussion of the Mystics' attendance should go into the WNBA forum. Wink



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