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How Many Career Points will Kelsey Plum End Up With?
2418-3000
22%
 22%  [ 2 ]
3001-3283
22%
 22%  [ 2 ]
3284-3393
33%
 33%  [ 3 ]
3394-3667
22%
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PostPosted: 01/28/17 1:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks for taking all the shots Romeo.
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11   27.3   50.5   52.2
12   25.0   46.3   47.8
13   23.1   42.8   44.2
14   21.4   39.7   41.0
15   20.0   37.1   38.3
16   18.8   34.8   35.9
17   17.6   32.7   33.8
18   16.7   30.9   31.9
19   15.8   29.3   30.2


As with last time, columns go Stiles, Woodard, Maravich. That last row will have to be removed pretty soon though.

She's still in solid position to get to third after the next game.


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10   25.6   51.2   53.0
11   23.3   46.5   48.2
12   21.3   42.7   44.2
13   19.7   39.4   40.8
14   18.3   36.6   37.9
15   17.1   34.1   35.3
16   16.0   32.0   33.1
17   15.1   30.1   31.2
18   14.2   28.4   29.4


If I am a midlevel European team, I am preparing a pitch to her and whatever agent she chooses as soon as she becomes a professional. American rookies rarely have the ability to both shoot and run a pick and roll with nuance so a team that builds a relationship could grab an advantage on teams higher up the chain who are not willing to risk signing a rookie.


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PostPosted: 01/30/17 11:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Hoops9092 wrote:
3070 + 24 today = 3094.


Banham drops to #7. Plum owns #6


Plum Now Owns #3 +44 = 3138 points .



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PostPosted: 02/03/17 11:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

3138 + 24 = 3162 after tonight.


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 9   25.8   54.2   56.2
10   23.2   48.8   50.6
11   21.1   44.4   46.0
12   19.3   40.7   42.2
13   17.8   37.5   38.9
14   16.6   34.9   36.1
15   15.5   32.5   33.7
16   14.5   30.5   31.6
17   13.6   28.7   29.8


More competition was needed tonight to make her shoot more.

I am too lazy to calculate now, but the Arizona State loss should get us closer to where I need to delete the last row. Reaching Woodard would probably require two great postseason runs now.


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PostPosted: 02/05/17 6:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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8   25.5   57.5   59.8
9   22.7   51.1   53.1
10   20.4   46.0   47.8
11   18.5   41.8   43.5
12   17.0   38.3   39.8
13   15.7   35.4   36.8
14   14.6   32.9   34.1
15   13.6   30.7   31.9
16   12.8   28.8   29.9


The last row could disappear by next weekend, so it's probably best to look at it as not being there.
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PostPosted: 02/05/17 11:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:



Stiles 3393
Griner 3283
Plum 3162



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PostPosted: 02/06/17 10:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is Plum better than Stiles?
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PostPosted: 02/06/17 10:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Is Plum better than Stiles?


TOUGH to call , i remember watching stiles play when i was in middle school and she was flat out the best scorer ive ever seen in WCBB . She literally put the whole SW mizzou state team on her back . It was so sad when they lost in the Final 4 that year she was a true Gem .



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PostPosted: 02/06/17 11:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
Is Plum better than Stiles?


TOUGH to call , i remember watching stiles play when i was in middle school and she was flat out the best scorer ive ever seen in WCBB . She literally put the whole SW mizzou state team on her back . It was so sad when they lost in the Final 4 that year she was a true Gem .


Not sad if you were a fan of the better team that starred a better player that beat them.


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PUmatty wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
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Is Plum better than Stiles?


TOUGH to call , i remember watching stiles play when i was in middle school and she was flat out the best scorer ive ever seen in WCBB . She literally put the whole SW mizzou state team on her back . It was so sad when they lost in the Final 4 that year she was a true Gem .


Not sad if you were a fan of the better team that starred a better player that beat them.


What better player are you referring too ? SM or KD ? Not a fair assesment especially after the injury issues that plague stiles and yet she still managed to win WNBA ROY and NOT that better player that starred on the better team in college



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PostPosted: 02/06/17 2:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Is Plum better than Stiles?


Stiles was an awesome scorer, but you also have to consider that she got most of her points against Missouri Valley Conference opponents. It was sad though that injury cut short her W career.



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PostPosted: 02/06/17 10:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Stiles 3393
Griner 3283
Plum 3162


PLUM 3190



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Yeah, it's tough to compare them directly. I never saw Stiles play--no, not even in the 2001 Elite Eight. I didn't grow up wanting to go to UW or even following college sports at all.

As myrtle pointed out, Stiles played in the Missouri Valley Conference, whereas Plum plays in the best conference in the country. On the other hand, I think it's unlikely Stiles had the kind of support that Plum has had. Not to take anything away from her teammates--I'm sure reaching the Final Four was a team effort. They won some 29 games that season and upset the #1 seed in their bracket. However, I have a hard time imagining that Stiles was surrounded by players in the same realm as players like Chantel Osahor, Talia Walton, Jaz Davis, Aminah Williams, Natalie Romeo, et al.


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Yeah, it's tough to compare them directly. I never saw Stiles play--no, not even in the 2001 Elite Eight. I didn't grow up wanting to go to UW or even following college sports at all.

As myrtle pointed out, Stiles played in the Missouri Valley Conference, whereas Plum plays in the best conference in the country. On the other hand, I think it's unlikely Stiles had the kind of support that Plum has had. Not to take anything away from her teammates--I'm sure reaching the Final Four was a team effort. They won some 29 games that season and upset the #1 seed in their bracket. However, I have a hard time imagining that Stiles was surrounded by players in the same realm as players like Chantel Osahor, Talia Walton, Jaz Davis, Aminah Williams, Natalie Romeo, et al.


See for yourself....jacki carrying this team to a final four was no fluke or exaggeration.
https://youtu.be/RaVpZhXsuqQ

Btw Jackies Senior yr she shot 50/50/90 Also winning ROY in the W.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
bcdawg04 wrote:
Yeah, it's tough to compare them directly. I never saw Stiles play--no, not even in the 2001 Elite Eight. I didn't grow up wanting to go to UW or even following college sports at all.

As myrtle pointed out, Stiles played in the Missouri Valley Conference, whereas Plum plays in the best conference in the country. On the other hand, I think it's unlikely Stiles had the kind of support that Plum has had. Not to take anything away from her teammates--I'm sure reaching the Final Four was a team effort. They won some 29 games that season and upset the #1 seed in their bracket. However, I have a hard time imagining that Stiles was surrounded by players in the same realm as players like Chantel Osahor, Talia Walton, Jaz Davis, Aminah Williams, Natalie Romeo, et al.


See for yourself....jacki carrying this team to a final four was no fluke or exaggeration.
https://youtu.be/RaVpZhXsuqQ

Btw Jackies Senior yr she shot 50/50/90 Also winning ROY in the W.

The Duke game was even more impressive (link is on the side bar).

Who was it (some announcer) that said Matee Ajavon was a more athletic Jackie Stiles? Laughing


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readyAIMfire53 wrote:
Shades wrote:



Stiles 3393
Griner 3283
Plum 3162


PLUM 3190


Playing tonight. Kelsey should cross over 3200 pts and start closing in on Griner. Tick. Tock.



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As myrtle pointed out, Stiles played in the Missouri Valley Conference, whereas Plum plays in the best conference in the country.


LOL, you gotta watch out for myrtle's 'pointers'. Laughing

1. Yes, Jackie DID play in the MVC. I don't see anyone casting aspersions on, say, Patricia Hoskins, Lorri Bauman or Jerica Coley for their teams' lesser conferences. Also, as wnba09 pointed out, Jackie DID earn wnba ROY, and THAT was playing amongst the best of The Best.

2. Plum does NOT play in the best conference in the country. (Did myrtle tell you that, too? Laughing ) She's in ONE of The Best, and she and her team have made huge contribution to the Pac 12 being far better than in recent years, so that counts for something, tho.

3. Re: Stiles v. Plum? I followed Jackie's career, and honestly? If I had to chose between the 2, with each at her prime? I'd pick Stiles in a heartbeat. She's more athletic than Plum and I'd say she's better on defense. And I'd also opine that she was better on 'creating her own shot', as they say....creating something out of nothing. But I also would not declare Plum as anything LESS than amazing. I really hope she DOES get the record.



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readyAIMfire53 wrote:
Shades wrote:



Stiles 3393
Griner 3283
Plum 3162


PLUM 3190


PLUM 3212 - 72 more to get pass Griner for 2nd place on the NCAA list.

I say 3 games. If you look at shots taken, Kelsey took just 1 more shot than McDonald and 2 more than Romeo and Kelsey had 7 assists.



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The bigger milestones will be pretty difficult to hit, especially since the last row will need to be removed soon.

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 7   26.0   62.6   65.1
 8   22.8   54.8   57.0
 9   20.2   48.7   50.7
10   18.2   43.8   45.6
11   16.5   39.8   41.5
12   15.2   36.5   38.0
13   14.0   33.7   35.1
14   13.0   31.3   32.6
15   12.1   29.2   30.4
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3212 + 25 so far tonight bring KP up to 3237


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Make it 3241


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readyAIMfire53 wrote:
readyAIMfire53 wrote:
readyAIMfire53 wrote:
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Stiles 3393
Griner 3283
Plum 3162


PLUM 3190


PLUM 3212 - 72 more to get pass Griner for 2nd place on the NCAA list.

I say 3 games. If you look at shots taken, Kelsey took just 1 more shot than McDonald and 2 more than Romeo and Kelsey had 7 assists.


3241 - 43 for 2nd place



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The last row is officially gone now that they have clinched a conference tournament bye. Woodard will be very difficult to reach at this point.

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 6   25.5   68.2   71.0
 7   21.9   58.4   60.9
 8   19.1   51.1   53.3
 9   17.0   45.4   47.3
10   15.3   40.9   42.6
11   13.9   37.2   38.7
12   12.8   34.1   35.5
13   11.8   31.5   32.8
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3241 + 39 tonight again vs. UCLA = 3280.

The top 3 now looks like this:

1. Stiles at 3393
2. Griner at 3283
3. Plum at 3280

4 points to elevate Plum to #2


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 5   22.8   74.0   77.6
 6   19.0   61.7   64.7
 7   16.3   52.9   55.4
 8   14.3   46.3   48.5
 9   12.7   41.1   43.1
10   11.4   37.0   38.8
11   10.4   33.6   35.3
12   9.5   30.8   32.3


We finally have some positive movement on the big milestones. I am not liking the conference opposition for the next three games. Hopefully my other school can keep the game close enough to make her play 40 minuts.
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3241 + 39 tonight again vs. UCLA = 3280.

The top 3 now looks like this:

1. Stiles at 3393
2. Griner at 3283
3. Plum at 3280

4 points to elevate Plum to #2


1. Stiles 3393
2. ***PLUM 3315***
3. Griner 3283

Plum needs 79 points to become #1! 2 more regular season games, then PAC 12 tournament. I expect it will happen in the PAC 12 so she can go into the NCAA tournament as #1 among NCAA women. The other totals, I think, are out of reach.



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 4   19.8   83.8   88.3
 5   15.8   67.0   70.6
 6   13.2   55.8   58.8
 7   11.3   47.9   50.4
 8    9.9   41.9   44.1
 9    8.8   37.2   39.2
10    7.9   33.5   35.3
11    7.2   30.5   32.1


Well, my grad school did make it competitive enough to make her play almost the whole game. The Mountain schools were tough this weekend, so maybe they can force her to shoot a lot next weekend.
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Looks like 78% of you are going to be wrong.


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Well done, Kelsey


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Looks like 78% of you are going to be wrong.


It's one time I'll be happy to be wrong. I thought she'd come up just short. Her quest has brought some excitement to the season for me.



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She will do it in Seattle, either at the final home game(possible) or the first game of the Pac12 Tournament on Friday March 3rd.


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Also winning ROY in the W.


Which actually should have gone to LJ. There's more to basketball than points.



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She will do it in Seattle, either at the final home game(possible) or the first game of the Pac12 Tournament on Friday March 3rd.


knock on wood. Just crossing fingers that she stays healthy.



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eclair wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Also winning ROY in the W.


Which actually should have gone to LJ. There's more to basketball than points.


Yes. Stiles had a few more total points, but their points per game were virtually the same--with LJ having the slight edge. Their assists per game were virtually the same, with Stiles having the slight edge. LJ had more rebounds per game, blocks per game, and steals per game. Unfortunately for LJ, Stiles got bonus points for coming into the league as a familiar face after her illustrious college career. But hey, now that the Storm got its back-to-back ROYs, it's all good.


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eclair wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Also winning ROY in the W.


Which actually should have gone to LJ. There's more to basketball than points.


Doesnt matter its in stone..not what actually should have happened fortunately Laughing



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 3   18.0  103.3  109.3
 4   13.5   77.5   82.0
 5   10.8   62.0   65.6
 6    9.0   51.7   54.7
 7    7.7   44.3   46.9
 8    6.8   38.8   41.0
 9    6.0   34.4   36.4
10    5.4   31.0   32.8


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bcdawg04 wrote:
eclair wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Also winning ROY in the W.


Which actually should have gone to LJ. There's more to basketball than points.


Yes. Stiles had a few more total points, but their points per game were virtually the same--with LJ having the slight edge. Their assists per game were virtually the same, with Stiles having the slight edge. LJ had more rebounds per game, blocks per game, and steals per game. Unfortunately for LJ, Stiles got bonus points for coming into the league as a familiar face after her illustrious college career. But hey, now that the Storm got its back-to-back ROYs, it's all good.

In defense, Stiles shot the ball better 40/43/78, to Jackson's 36/31/73.

Obviously Jackson was a few years younger, but 36% for a forward/post (granted a stretch post), is still bad.


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53 points to go pass to pass Jackie


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bcdawg04 wrote:
eclair wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Also winning ROY in the W.


Which actually should have gone to LJ. There's more to basketball than points.


Yes. Stiles had a few more total points, but their points per game were virtually the same--with LJ having the slight edge. Their assists per game were virtually the same, with Stiles having the slight edge. LJ had more rebounds per game, blocks per game, and steals per game. Unfortunately for LJ, Stiles got bonus points for coming into the league as a familiar face after her illustrious college career. But hey, now that the Storm got its back-to-back ROYs, it's all good.


I think Stiles got points for being a more exciting player to watch.


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eclair wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Also winning ROY in the W.


Which actually should have gone to LJ. There's more to basketball than points.


Yes. Stiles had a few more total points, but their points per game were virtually the same--with LJ having the slight edge. Their assists per game were virtually the same, with Stiles having the slight edge. LJ had more rebounds per game, blocks per game, and steals per game. Unfortunately for LJ, Stiles got bonus points for coming into the league as a familiar face after her illustrious college career. But hey, now that the Storm got its back-to-back ROYs, it's all good.


I think Stiles got points for being a more exciting player to watch.


And at that time, a much more well known quantity. Like last year, if another player had numbers similar to Stewie or even slightly better, Stewie still would have been ROY.



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PostPosted: 02/24/17 6:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

readyAIMfire53 wrote:
Hoops9092 wrote:
3241 + 39 tonight again vs. UCLA = 3280.

The top 3 now looks like this:

1. Stiles at 3393
2. Griner at 3283
3. Plum at 3280

4 points to elevate Plum to #2


UPDATE 2/23

1. Stiles 3393
2. ***PLUM 3340***
3. Griner 3283



1 regular season game and 2-3 PAC 12 tournament games (in Seattle). Odds are excellent Kelsey will become #1 in Seattle during the 1st or 2nd game of the tourney. If Plum hits her average of 30 pts in the final regular season game, the odds go way up, she'll break the record in Washington's first game of the tourney on March 3.



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PostPosted: 02/25/17 7:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, she did it. Not sure anyone was expecting it today but 57 points is certainly a good way to go out on your home court. Shocked


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PostPosted: 02/25/17 7:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Why wait another game?

Now we just have columns for Woodard and Pistol Pete.

Code:

2  126.5  135.5
3   84.3   90.3
4   63.3   67.8
5   50.6   54.2
6   42.2   45.2
7   36.1   38.7
8   31.6   33.9
9   28.1   30.1
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PostPosted: 02/25/17 7:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WOW!!




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PostPosted: 02/25/17 8:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

what an awesome performance. to throw out a game like that under what was probably tremendous pressure (especially when Chantel fouled out with 8 minutes left in the game & Utah down by only 6 or 8, I think). Romeo wasn't scoring, so it was up to Kelsey to carry the team and she did it, again.

if there's any doubt about who's the #1 pick, I don't know what else she'd have to do.

CONGRATS KELSEY!



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PostPosted: 02/25/17 8:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Comparing the careers of Plum and Stiles I found out that Plum has played in 134 games compared to only 99 for Stiles.

So, should Mark Emmert take a page from Ford Frick and put an asterisk next to Plum's name in the event she breaks the record?
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PostPosted: 02/25/17 8:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
Comparing the careers of Plum and Stiles I found out that Plum has played in 134 games compared to only 99 for Stiles.

So, should Mark Emmert take a page from Ford Frick and put an asterisk next to Plum's name in the event she breaks the record?
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Perhaps there should be another record for pts per game...
or perhaps there should be an asterisk by Stiles for playing in a non-major conference...
there could be numerous asterix if you change the rules in the middle...



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PostPosted: 02/25/17 9:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
Comparing the careers of Plum and Stiles I found out that Plum has played in 134 games compared to only 99 for Stiles.

So, should Mark Emmert take a page from Ford Frick and put an asterisk next to Plum's name in the event she breaks the record?
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I know you're not being serious, but my serious response would be, "And that is why scoring average is also a category that is tracked."



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PostPosted: 02/25/17 11:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
Comparing the careers of Plum and Stiles I found out that Plum has played in 134 games compared to only 99 for Stiles.

I'm seeing 129 games for Stiles:
http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/129913/57-point-game-makes-kelsey-plum-all-time-leading-womens-scorer


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