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PostPosted: 05/01/17 7:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


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not sure why everyone seems to think Wiese will suck. Give the girl a chance before you write her off. I think she'll be a decent SF in the league. Can she guard Maya? No. Can anybody? No. Can she guard Angel? No. Can she guard almost any other SF - I'm thinking she can. Maybe not immediately, but she plays really smart and I think will make up for lack of pure speed by playing scout defense and using position. I could be wrong of course but at least watch her play before saying she's a piece of do-do.


The real question is "can she guard Tamera Young?"


I think any player who can only do one thing, such as T. Young, should be guardable by my grandmother. Ok, that's an exaggeration but those who only shoot threes, obviously you hang out at the three line; those who only drive, you dare 'em to shoot. It ain't rocket science.


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PostPosted: 05/05/17 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Brittany Brown, Jessica Jackson, Nina Davis, and Aundrea Gamble were all waived. That leaves
Sims/Gray
Beard/Williams/Weisner/Hopkins
Carson/Weise/Go/Samuelson
Parker/Jackson-Jones/Ruef/Ibekwe
Ogwumike/Lavender/Grant-Allen/Warley-Talbert



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PostPosted: 05/05/17 5:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


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tfan wrote:
I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Now that Nina is gone these 2 just became my favorite hopefuls.



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Ruef still in camp also. Very Happy


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Ruef still in camp also. Very Happy


Kayla is a good player but these 2 standout to me because in any other year they most likely wouldn't even be considered in this league but they both were drafted to the team with the most need for shooters in which they both specialize. Im excited hope they both make it but i live in reality.



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tfan wrote:
I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Why does she shoot way beyond the arc if she has a quick release?


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tfan wrote:
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tfan wrote:
I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Why does she shoot way beyond the arc if she has a quick release?


I believe she has a quick release vs certain teams mainly pac 12 teams. In the W she will have to utilize that smooth stepback she likes a bit more if she wants to stick. If she could learn the Nicole Powell Chunk A Shot lol she could really be something



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PostPosted: 05/05/17 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Samuelson's the better fit imo.She'd be the perfect floor spacer for Parker and Ogwumike.A 3 point catch and shoot specialist.Exactly what the sparks are missing.Hopefully there's no pressure on Agler to keep Wiese.


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Brittany Brown, Jessica Jackson, Nina Davis, and Aundrea Gamble were all waived. That leaves
Sims/Gray
Beard/Williams/Weisner/Hopkins
Carson/Weise/Go/Samuelson
Parker/Jackson-Jones/Ruef/Ibekwe
Ogwumike/Lavender/Grant-Allen/Warley-Talbert


SIX more cuts. Holy Shit. And that assumes they can afford 12.



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I think the final roster will keep Weise and Samuelson. I assume they can afford 12 with Toliver off the books. If they can't afford 12, cut Samuelson.
Sims/Gray
Beard/Williams/Samuelson
Carson/Weise
Parker/Jackson-Jones
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Well, potentially only four more cuts for now, considering Parker and Lavender won't arrive in time for the start of the season.



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They are going to miss Toliver...a lot.



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Well, potentially only four more cuts for now, considering Parker and Lavender won't arrive in time for the start of the season.


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PostPosted: 05/06/17 7:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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They are going to miss Toliver...a lot.


i was thinking the same , hopefully riquana comes back in her Record setting form . Im not placing any expectations on O Sims , whatever she contributes should be considered a gift from the heavens.



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PostPosted: 05/06/17 7:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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They are going to miss Toliver...a lot.


i was thinking the same , hopefully riquana comes back in her Record setting form . Im not placing any expectations on O Sims , whatever she contributes should be considered a gift from the heavens.


Apparently, I am less concerned with Odyssey than most. It's been a while since she was not expected to be a #1 or #2 scoring option. She hasn't had that luxury since college playing with Brittney.

Now she has two dominant post players in CP3 and Nerd City I, and she will have splendid opportunities to get open looks as long as she is willing to share the rock. She has a sensitive but demanding coach who will bench her if she doesn't stay with his program. I actually see this season as a great opportunity for her to truly grow and develop her game.

I am actually a lot much more concerned with Riquna and her free lancing ways than Odyssey. Brian may have to literally place her in a strait jacket at times to curb her street ball tendencies. It will be interesting to see how Riquna and the other youngsters respond to Candace and Nneka.



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PostPosted: 05/06/17 8:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ibekwe didn't play in the preseason games, and I don't think I saw her on the bench- is she another roster mirage?



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myrtle wrote:
They are going to miss Toliver...a lot.


i was thinking the same , hopefully riquana comes back in her Record setting form . Im not placing any expectations on O Sims , whatever she contributes should be considered a gift from the heavens.


Apparently, I am less concerned with Odyssey than most. It's been a while since she was not expected to be #1 or #2 scoring option. She hasn't had that luxury since college playing with Brittney.

Now she has two dominant post players in CP3 and Nerd City I, and she will have splendid opportunities to get open looks as long as she is willing to share the rock. She has a sensitive but demanding coach who will bench her if she doesn't stay with his program. I actually see this season as a great opportunity for her to truly grow and develop her game.

I am actually a lot much more concerned with Riquna and her free lancing ways than Odyssey. Brian may have to literally place her in a strait jacket at times to curb her street ball tendencies. It will be interesting to see how Riquna and the other youngsters respond to Candace and Nneka.


+1 about the riquana portion . Agler is going to have to really show his coaching skills.



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Agler will have his hands full with Sims & Williams. I bet one of them isn't a Spark in 2018.



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PostPosted: 05/06/17 9:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Ibekwe didn't play in the preseason games, and I don't think I saw her on the bench- is she another roster mirage?


Their preseason roster said she would be coming late due to her overseas commitments, so I assume she would be coming soon.


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Agler will have his hands full with Sims & Williams. I bet one of them isn't a Spark in 2018.


With beard retiring theres a chance he might not have a choice unless he uses one for trade bate at this point the player with more value would be sims only due to injury. Sims & LA's 1st rounder for someones 18' 1st rounder??



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Sims is getting tossed around like a hot potato. I thought she was overrated coming out of college (and took a lot of heat for it), but I don't think she's as bad as people have been saying lately. Need a little bit of patience with players on new teams. Too much need for instant gratification.



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Remember that Toliver was a trigger happy player herself and wasnt called mopey for nothing. But she turned it around and became a solid player and teammate.

Sims will have to see the Sparks as team USA. When she is on the floor its her job to get the stars the ball and work hard for everthing



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Remember that Toliver was a trigger happy player herself and wasnt called mopey for nothing. But she turned it around and became a solid player and teammate.

Sims will have to see the Sparks as team USA. When she is on the floor its her job to get the stars the ball and work hard for everthing


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Nothing posted on the website since April 20 Shocked

And still a bazillion players on the roster...



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Nothing posted on the website since April 20 Shocked

And still a bazillion players on the roster...



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Agler will have his hands full with Sims & Williams. I bet one of them isn't a Spark in 2018.


Hopefully both. They're major liabilities. It will be next to impossible to win a championship with them on the team.


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I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Why does she shoot way beyond the arc if she has a quick release?


What does that have to do with the release? She has a quick release period, BUT she also has that type of range and that is why she spreads the floor so much on defense. BTW shooting 53.5% preseason Wink


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tfan wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
tfan wrote:
I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Why does she shoot way beyond the arc if she has a quick release?


What does that have to do with the release? She has a quick release period, BUT she also has that type of range and that is why she spreads the floor so much on defense. BTW shooting 53.5% preseason Wink


Release speed (along with quickness, size, release point and demonstrated ability to drive) affects whether a player can get their shot off at the 3-point line. if they can't get it off at the three point line - they have to back up even further.




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Nothing posted on the website since April 20 Shocked

And still a bazillion players on the roster...


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Sparks' roster down to 17. 6 more cuts to go. Easy ones should be Grant-Allen, Ibekwe & Hopkins. If Warley-Talbert makes the cut; only one of Ruef, Samuelson, Wiese & Weisner stays.



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I have to imagine the Sparks will make some cuts today. Is everyone in camp?



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I have to imagine the Sparks will make some cuts today. Is everyone in camp?


Why is Ibekwe still pending.


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tfan wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
tfan wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
tfan wrote:
I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Why does she shoot way beyond the arc if she has a quick release?


What does that have to do with the release? She has a quick release period, BUT she also has that type of range and that is why she spreads the floor so much on defense. BTW shooting 53.5% preseason Wink


Release speed (along with quickness, size, release point and demonstrated ability to drive) affects whether a player can get their shot off at the 3-point line. if they can't get it off at the three point line - they have to back up even further.


You missed the part where very few players can shoot with that range and accuracy, she shoots with that range because she CAN. Just say if you don't like her but stop making shit up.


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Sparks' roster down to 17. 6 more cuts to go. Easy ones should be Grant-Allen, Ibekwe & Hopkins. If Warley-Talbert makes the cut; only one of Ruef, Samuelson, Wiese & Weisner stays.


Ruef had 1 really good game, will it be enough, we will see.


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Parker and Lavender are overseas at least thru Friday, so maybe they go with 14 until those two arrive. Not sure if they can do that though without temporary suspension or something.



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Parker and Lavender are overseas at least thru Friday, so maybe they go with 14 until those two arrive. Not sure if they can do that though without temporary suspension or something.

Given that none of the players who'll be missing are ones they'll want to suspend for the year, I don't think they'll be able to do that. Whether they can fit 11 or 12 depends on who they keep, but assuming they go vet there may only be eight Sparks in uniform for Saturday's ESPN-televised opener.



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Parker and Lavender are overseas at least thru Friday, so maybe they go with 14 until those two arrive. Not sure if they can do that though without temporary suspension or something.

Given that none of the players who'll be missing are ones they'll want to suspend for the year, I don't think they'll be able to do that. Whether they can fit 11 or 12 depends on who they keep, but assuming they go vet there may only be eight Sparks in uniform for Saturday's ESPN-televised opener.


But if they're down to 8 can't they sign a hardship?



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Parker and Lavender are overseas at least thru Friday, so maybe they go with 14 until those two arrive. Not sure if they can do that though without temporary suspension or something.

Given that none of the players who'll be missing are ones they'll want to suspend for the year, I don't think they'll be able to do that. Whether they can fit 11 or 12 depends on who they keep, but assuming they go vet there may only be eight Sparks in uniform for Saturday's ESPN-televised opener.


But if they're down to 8 can't they sign a hardship?

Based on previous years, I believe the players would have to miss at least a game for the team to be eligible to do that. LA don't play their second game for nearly a week, so unless the Turkish Finals are dragging out, they might not bother.



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So they might only have 8 players available for Saturday? That sucks!



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So they might only have 8 players available for Saturday? That sucks!


Brian only uses 7 or 8 players anyway.



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So they might only have 8 players available for Saturday? That sucks!


Brian only uses 7 or 8 players anyway.


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Sparks move ring ceremony to accommodate missing players

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The Sparks postponed their ring ceremony a week because Parker, Jantel Lavender and Essence Carson are still playing overseas in the Turkish League finals.

“I’m glad they’ll be able to be a part of it,” Sparks coach Brian Agler said.


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By moving the ceremony back a week, the Sparks will also be able to give Kristi Toliver her ring. The talented guard left the team to go to Washington in free agency in the offseason.


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The Turkish playoffs aren’t the only time that WNBA players will miss games this season because of overseas commitments. Vandersloot will also miss time in June as she plays for Hungary at the EuroBasket tournament. She’s one of a handful of WNBA players who will leave for that tournament. The top five teams qualify for next year’s women’s basketball World Cup.

Washington will be without young star Emma Meesseman, who will be playing for Belgium.

New York will lose Kia Vaughn (Czech Republic) and Epiphanny Prince (Russia).

“I get players having to play overseas to enhance their income,” New York Liberty coach Bill Laimbeer said. “I get players having dual passports. I don’t get them missing training camp or the opening of the season.”


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For those wondering rookie Sydney Wiese is looking good, but yet another unfortunate "injury release" will be Karlee Samuelson


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PostPosted: 05/11/17 7:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I guess Wiese should thank Samuelson for getting injured. Still curious how many players will be on the team come Saturday.



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PostPosted: 05/11/17 7:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nixtreefan wrote:
tfan wrote:
Nixtreefan wrote:
tfan wrote:
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I don't think Weise has a slow release. At least not when she is tightly covered and they need a shot/bucket. She just plants her feet and fires in one motion. Karli Samuelson is the one who's release I'd be concerned with. She has that Samuelson family shooting motion.


You mean those 96 3s she shot at 48.5% even though everyone knows she is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the nation Rolling Eyes Not only does she have a quick release as she is set as she catches, she shoots way beyond the arc.


Why does she shoot way beyond the arc if she has a quick release?


What does that have to do with the release? She has a quick release period, BUT she also has that type of range and that is why she spreads the floor so much on defense. BTW shooting 53.5% preseason Wink


Release speed (along with quickness, size, release point and demonstrated ability to drive) affects whether a player can get their shot off at the 3-point line. if they can't get it off at the three point line - they have to back up even further.


You missed the part where very few players can shoot with that range and accuracy, she shoots with that range because she CAN. Just say if you don't like her but stop making shit up.


Are you claiming she shoots just as well from behind the three point line as she does at the line? I think she would be the first player in basketball ever to be able to do that. And if she doesn't shoot as well - why does she do it?

Saying Samuelson has issues with her release (her aim part) is not "making shit up". It's just an opinion, as is your statement that she has a quick release.Adding "period" to your statement doesn't make it a fact. Only detailed analysis of film of shooters would make any statements about release speed a fact.

I don't dislike Samuelson. You should just realize that if you use the eye-roll emoji in a response you are going to get push-back.




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PostPosted: 05/11/17 7:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LA could still cut Wiese/Williams,then sign O'Hea.


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PostPosted: 05/11/17 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
LA could still cut Wiese/Williams,then sign O'Hea.


Why would they do that?



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