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PostPosted: 07/11/17 12:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So any word on coates ? Any updates ? Still kind of funky to me that she hasnt signed but her twitter indicates shes with the sky ....


She's out for the season but has signed on to play overseas this winter. Sky will retain her rights. Curious what the Sky do with her. A trade is likely, but just a matter if it's her or Boyette that gets traded.


Dream have 3 wings now (Hayes, Sykes and Holmes.) If Angel comes back that's 4. Trade say Holmes for Boyette?


Just keep Holmes and draft Russell. You'll be way ahead of the game.


No thank you to Russell, but I would take Dolson for Holmes. But, I'm pretty happy with Holmes, so I'd go with Boyette+2018 FRP for Angel. If we end up with 4 wings we could have some fun matches against the Sky with their 4 posts.

As for Angel, maybe she will just show up for the playoffs like she did for her Beirut team.


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Her playing overseas would remove that option. As far as I know she hasn't actually signed anything yet, plus she has to actually be healthy enough to play. It's still up in the air.


Does she have to actually play to be ineligible or is just signing enough to do it?

The CBA just says "signs another, or remains subject to a, player contract with a professional basketball team not in the WNBA". So technically only a signing, she doesn't have to actually play.

The whole rule remains pretty odd.



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I think Stocks gets one more game to look at her team without Pondexter. If they again play well, Cappie might be out of the starting lineup in the future. Poke brought her off the bench for 4 games last year. Or they could bring Quigley off the bench. I think they need Tamera Young at small forward.

Stocks had seven days with the Sky after a loss to San Antonio, and they responded by blowing out the Lynx.


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Young is their best option at SF. Quigley has always been their 6th woman, so she should be coming off the bench.



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PostPosted: 07/16/17 12:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Sky has been running a Groupon all season.
The first one, for these games:
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Against the Connecticut Sun on Friday, June 10 at 7:30 p.m.
Against the New York Liberty on Friday, June 17 at 7:30 p.m.
Against the Connecticut Sun on Thursday, June 23 at 7 p.m.
Against the Phoenix Mercury on Saturday, June 25 at 7 p.m.
Against the San Antonio Silver Stars on Tuesday, June 28 at 7 p.m.


was $15 for Two Zone-Level Tickets (doesn't list what the value of those is).

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Saturday, July 8, 7 p.m. (Minnesota Lynx)
Friday, July 28, at 7:30 p.m. (Phoenix Mercury)
Sunday, July 30, at 5 p.m. (New York Liberty)
Saturday, August 5, at 7 p.m. (Atlanta Dream)
Thursday, August 10, at 7 p.m. (San Antonio Stars)
Wednesday, August 30, at 7 p.m. (Dallas Wings)
Sunday, September 3, at 3 p.m. (Seattle Storm)


You get:

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The Deal
$21–$25 for one ticket for seating in section 101, 104, 109, or 112 (rows A–O) (up to $46.75 value)
$34–$38 for one ticket for seating in section 101, 104, 109, or 112 (rows AA–FF) (up to $78.75 value)
Each ticket also includes a Chicago Sky T-shirt
Click to see the seating chart.
Ticket values vary depending on the date.


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you are crashing our tank?! do you know how much those things cost! Laughing



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Yeah, things are not looking good for the tank. Stocks isn't playing people out of position anymore and they're much more confident in their decision-making.

That, and Indy/SAS/Dallas aren't getting any better. There are a lot of teams hovering around .500 that the Sky could leapfrog in just a game or two.



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The Sky seem like that team that could upset someone in the first round of the play-offs(possibly Washington or Phoenix). If they win tomorrow vs. LA, they'll be 1.5 games behind 8th place Atlanta.



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PostPosted: 07/19/17 5:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Quigley has always been their 6th woman, so she should be coming off the bench.


I disagree. There's an obvious starting chemistry between Vandersloot and Quigley. They need to ride it out to see how far it goes. Hopefully everyone would be amenable.



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Quigley has always been their 6th woman, so she should be coming off the bench.


I disagree. There's an obvious starting chemistry between Vandersloot and Quigley. They need to ride it out to see how far it goes. Hopefully everyone would be amenable.


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PostPosted: 07/20/17 2:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Some of Chicago's rankings:

Offense

fg%-5th
3ptfg%-5th
Asst-2nd
Reb-4th

Defense:

Fg%-3rd best
3ptfg%-2nd best

The sky are better than their record would suggest.If chicago can make the right trade(s),they will be a legit title contender in the very near future.
What chicago needs is a legit top 10 offensive player.D.Deshields or A.Wilson could be that missing piece,but only if they miss the playoffs....McCoughtry or Diggins would also be the perfect fit.


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PostPosted: 07/20/17 2:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Would a package of Coates,Fualkner & the 2018 1st rd pick(non lottery pick) be enoigh to get McCoughtry ?,,,,,,,,could chicago get McCoughtry if they traded their 2018 1st pick straight up before the end of the season ?

G-Sloot
G-Pondexter
C-Dolson
F-Breland
F-McCoughtry
6-Quigley
7-Boytte
8-Parker
9-Copper
10-Hampton

Lefttover:Young


Chicago could definitely compete for a tiltle with this squad.


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PostPosted: 07/20/17 3:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Some of Chicago's rankings:

Offense

fg%-5th
3ptfg%-5th
Asst-2nd
Reb-4th

Defense:

Fg%-3rd best
3ptfg%-2nd best

The sky are better than their record would suggest.

Offensive Efficiency: 11th
Defensive Efficiency: 8th

7-13 is a pretty reasonable assessment. Might well be generous.



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PostPosted: 07/20/17 6:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Some of Chicago's rankings:

Offense

fg%-5th
3ptfg%-5th
Asst-2nd
Reb-4th

Defense:

Fg%-3rd best
3ptfg%-2nd best

The sky are better than their record would suggest.

Offensive Efficiency: 11th
Defensive Efficiency: 8th

7-13 is a pretty reasonable assessment. Might well be generous.



It's a matter of perspective....At the start of the season coach Stocks played some funky lineups.Not to mention,Vandersloot/Quigley missed a significant amount of games(10 games total).Even when chicago was at full strength,Stocks went with a horrible defensive starting lineup(Sloot,Quigley,Cappie,Breland,Dolson).If Stocks sticks with a more conventional lineup.Chicago is a legit playoff team imo.chicago is top 5 in fg%,3ptfg%,and top 3 in def fg%.Those three stats should put them in position to make the playoffs.Chicago also has momentum on their side.Quality wins over minny,Ny,and Sea.


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PostPosted: 07/20/17 8:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ah, I get you, they're better than their record as long as we ignore the months when they were shit. Gotcha.



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PostPosted: 07/20/17 10:56 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Ah, I get you, they're better than their record as long as we ignore the months when they were shit. Gotcha.


Two starters missed the first 3 and 4 games of the season for a team with a new coach, a new starter (at a different position than the old) and a few different rotation players. They were 3-12 [Dream, Stars, Dream], with the last loss being the first win of the San Antonio Stars. Then they had 7 days off to practice (this might be the period where Stocks held a practice where she didn't speak - forcing the players to run the practice) and think about the Stars loss, and Cappie Pondexter hit her head and has been unable to play since. And now have gone 4-1, [Lynx, Wings, Liberty, Storm] with the 1 loss in overtime. It's only 5 games but it seems like they are a better team now. Hopefully that is from getting used to each other and the coach, and not from Cappie not playing.


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Yes, shockingly enough they became a much better team when Stocks finally played their best 1 at the 1, their best 2 at the 2, etc. etc. And yes, they had some absences and injuries that made things more difficult for Stocks, but she made a whole string of bizarre and nonsensical moves all the way along. They've clearly been better the last five games, I've made that point repeatedly myself, and getting Cappie the hell out of the way has indeed been a big part of it.

I also said earlier in the season that the best hope for Chicago was that Stocks was a young coach who was learning as she went along (because things were such a mess that they had to hope she'd get better). Maybe the last five games are a sign of that.



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PostPosted: 07/20/17 12:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sky are 5-5 in the last 10 games. Probably a far indicator of what kind of team they are now. One big problem for the Sky future is the Sloot and Quig will probably miss games every years now that that are rent a citizens, but then lots of teams have that problem.


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What if the Chicago Sky aren’t rebuilding, after all?




Basketball Star Cappie Pondexter on Her “Tomboy-Chic” Style and Favorite Chicago Spots

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The avid online shopper and taco junkie talks the best Chicago meal, gives us a peek at a few of her keepsakes, and more.

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Bevis: A trip to watch the
Chicago Sky is worth the price of admission


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For Sky games, parking is free, and there's always plenty of spots close to the arena. I bought my ticket the day of the game, and got a lower bowl seat near Dallas' bench for $26.




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And then a draft night near-deal left the Sky with little to show for its two first round picks, between Alaina Coates, another center who isn’t likely to play at all in 2017, and Tori Jankoska, who was jettisoned after one regular season game.


Glad this was pointed out. i still believe Coates will be traded before the 2018 season and that Jankoska was clearly a bad draft pick. Especially with Kaela Davis still being available.



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I'd love to try and pry Powers or Christmas-Kelley from Dallas. I'd just hate to give up Boyette or the 2018 pick, and Coates isn't enough to get either.



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PostPosted: 07/22/17 11:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I'd love to try and pry Powers or Christmas-Kelley from Dallas. I'd just hate to give up Boyette or the 2018 pick, and Coates isn't enough to get either.


I disagree.....Christmas for Coates is a trade dallas would/should make.


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PostPosted: 07/23/17 6:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I'd love to try and pry Powers or Christmas-Kelley from Dallas. I'd just hate to give up Boyette or the 2018 pick, and Coates isn't enough to get either.


Chicago doesn't need Christmas. Young is part of the vernacular. Copper is part of the future. If you project to the #5 pick, that should be juicy (DeShields?) Boyette seems more coherent now. A little continuity is in order.



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New York will be happy to take either Christmas or Powers from Dallas. Powers for Stokes? Or do we offer Christmas a near max deal to bring her over(I do believe she's an UFA this offseason)?



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Trading Boyette (and Young) makes me wonder if Coates may suit up for the Sky this season.



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New York will be happy to take either Christmas or Powers from Dallas. Powers for Stokes? Or do we offer Christmas a near max deal to bring her over(I do believe she's an UFA this offseason)?


Stop just stop. We are not giving u powers toad. NOT happening , you can have karima or KD but please quit including powers into your trade scenarios. Bibb Knows powers potential she will not be traded to anyone thanks.



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Trading Boyette (and Young) makes me wonder if Coates may suit up for the Sky this season.


Read somewhere of rumors that coates was close to.signing and suiting up for the sky this season. Just rumor mill though



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 7:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Without Coates, they have:

PG: Vandersloot/Epps
SG: Quigley/Pondexter
SF: Hampton/Copper/Hooper
PF: Breland/Harris
C: Dolson/Parker



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If next year's draft lives up to everyone's hype then I don't mind this trade at all for the Sky. Sounds to me like they've made the most out of a fairly precarious position with both of those players.



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Trading Boyette (and Young) makes me wonder if Coates may suit up for the Sky this season.


Read somewhere of rumors that coates was close to.signing and suiting up for the sky this season. Just rumor mill though


Was it the Sparks broadcast in which the broadcasters were speculating for her to join the team in August?



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Without Coates, they have:

PG: Vandersloot/Epps
SG: Quigley/Pondexter
SF: Hampton/Copper/Hooper
PF: Breland/Harris
C: Dolson/Parker


It sure looks like there's an opening for Coates, and it would be smart to lock her in even though it's hard to say she'd contribute much if anything this year. Hard to guess where she's at since we get so little info about her.



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Trading Boyette (and Young) makes me wonder if Coates may suit up for the Sky this season.


Read somewhere of rumors that coates was close to.signing and suiting up for the sky this season. Just rumor mill though


Was it the Sparks broadcast in which the broadcasters were speculating for her to join the team in August?


Yes yes exactly thanks shades!



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WNBA 09 wrote:
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WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Trading Boyette (and Young) makes me wonder if Coates may suit up for the Sky this season.


Read somewhere of rumors that coates was close to.signing and suiting up for the sky this season. Just rumor mill though


Was it the Sparks broadcast in which the broadcasters were speculating for her to join the team in August?


Yes yes exactly thanks shades!


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I know what the Sky should do. They should fire Stocks right now and hire coach S. Key.


NO. Absolutely NO.



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Once again, Coates is not playing this season. Unless Stocks lied to her season ticket holders (which has happened before)



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I know what the Sky should do. They should fire Stocks right now and hire coach S. Key.


NO. Absolutely NO.

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myrtle wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Trading Boyette (and Young) makes me wonder if Coates may suit up for the Sky this season.


Read somewhere of rumors that coates was close to.signing and suiting up for the sky this season. Just rumor mill though


Was it the Sparks broadcast in which the broadcasters were speculating for her to join the team in August?


Yes yes exactly thanks shades!


Yeah, yeah, well I wouldn't count on anything Mary said as gospel.


I believe it was the guy instead.



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Honey, I love taking you to the casino! I love the way you gamble. Awesome job to double down on number 18. Sing it with me baby. Dem balls, dem balls, dem lottery balls! Very Happy



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If next year's draft lives up to everyone's hype then I don't mind this trade at all for the Sky. Sounds to me like they've made the most out of a fairly precarious position with both of those players.


I agree. It's a ballsy move for sure, but not a dumb move.



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Sky sign Bashaara Graves



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Sky sign Bashaara Graves


Pointless ........ Arrow



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Sky sign Bashaara Graves


Pointless ........ Arrow


well it gives them a bencher just in case something happens to somebody else. And I always like to see a marginal player get a little something...And maybe they needed to hit the minimum salary level?



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Sky sign Bashaara Graves


Pointless ........ Arrow


Not really. They're playing with 11 people right now, Cheyenne Parker is hurt, and their backup center is Amber Harris.



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And if Harris continues to not do anything, they can throw in Graves when needed. Just added insurance.



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http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/20240439/chicago-sky-keep-grinding-season-future-brighter

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"I don't anticipate that Alaina will be playing and able to produce for the remaining 2017 season," Stocks said. "Of course, that can change at any moment. She is active in her rehab and recovering. She is progressing very well. She's a hard worker, she's focused, she's passionate about the game. She's doing all the right things to put herself in position to continue to excel at the professional level."

Since that statement basically says two things -- Stocks doesn't expect Coates to play, but then again, she might -- let's ask this: Did the trade have anything to do with Coates?

"No, that was not the motivating catalyst behind the trade," Stocks said. "However, if Alaina is in playing form, then we will absolutely be excited about using her."



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Sky are now currently .5 behind Atlanta & Seattle for that #8 seed. Their schedule isn't easy for the rest of the season, but both Atlanta & Seattle have been playing poorly. Let's see what the Sky are capable of. They might be able to make the play-offs going 4-4 for the remainder of the season.

Remaining schedule:
vs. San Antonio
vs. Los Angeles
vs. Seattle
@ Connecticut
@ New York
vs. Dallas
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Sky looking to win and build for future at the same time

http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/sky-looking-to-win-and-build-for-future-at-the-same-time/

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Clearly, the Sky (10-16) are trying to pull off a difficult feat: win now while building for the future. Sky coach and general manager Amber Stocks doesn’t seem too bothered by the degree of difficulty.

“There definitely are challenges with that,” Stocks told the Sun-Times, “however, I wouldn’t say it’s hard to do both.”


They can just have the Dream play the lottery for them, while they enter the playoff race. What's Slooty's opinion of the playoffs? "It's a whole new season."

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That sentiment goes against conventional wisdom. Usually, teams decide to either go for wins or look to the future because it’s not easy to do both simultaneously.

But Stocks isn’t seeing things that way, and she likes how her team is approaching the task at hand.


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“The players that we have on this team are very focused, and we’re all on the same page as far as our commitment and our passion,” Stocks said. “That helps everybody see the same picture and have similar goals in mind."


I dunno... something tells me Stocks may have noticed Boyette retweeting and liking the notion of her getting traded. That would indicate everyone not being on the same page on commitment, or it may have been obvious even without the tweeting.

I would say Amber Harris has struggled with commitment and focus throughout her glorious WNBA career. Now that Boyette has been traded, she really needs to buckle down and hone that focus or she may become the next Amber Harris with all that unrealized potential.

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“It comes down to the details, no matter how you slice it,’’ Stocks said. ‘‘My focus is on the details and leading, coaching, guiding, managing us to win possessions. When you win possessions, then the results take care of themselves and you win games, then advance to the playoffs.”



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PostPosted: 08/11/17 9:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:

I dunno... something tells me Stocks may have noticed Boyette retweeting and liking the notion of her getting traded. That would indicate everyone not being on the same page on commitment, or it may have been obvious even without the tweeting.


I think she can see her own locker room better than twitter.


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PostPosted: 08/11/17 10:42 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Given Boyette's history, and tweets I can see her not being on the "same page" no matter how that was determined. However, I've never heard or seen anything about Young that suggests a lack of "commitment or passion." (Of course, there were those who questioned her talent level....) In fact, against the Dream she seemed to often get into Angel head.


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