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PostPosted: 06/02/17 11:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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You guys aren't reading her byline: "a happy place" You wanna gripe, go someplace else!

oth: hopefully she doesn't indulge too much in her own wares.


I'm already in my basement. Where else can I go? Laughing


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PostPosted: 06/02/17 2:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dig out a bomb shelter?



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PostPosted: 06/02/17 2:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
You guys aren't reading her byline: "a happy place" You wanna gripe, go someplace else!

oth: hopefully she doesn't indulge too much in her own wares.


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PostPosted: 06/02/17 2:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just came from the "happy place" and it is delicious! Y'all should definitely stop through when you're in town!


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

TRADE ALERT: WAIT FOR DETAILS


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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TRADE ALERT: WAIT FOR DETAILS


I'm ready. Cool

Give us those details us Rebkellians love!


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dream acquire Jordan Hooper from Connecticut in exchange for their 2nd Round Pick in 2018


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dream acquire Jordan Hooper from Connecticut in exchange for their 2nd Round Pick in 2018


that's it? really?



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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I like the move. I guess the Sun were able to claim her off waivers before we could, so they end up with our 2nd rounder next season.

Now, who goes? Sancho has been called up by Spain, so no one gets cut right away. I don't know who we would cut - Morello? Simmons? Holivay?




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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

should be Hollivay. No need for both Morello & Hollivay.



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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Probably should - but Morello is injured and can't play for several more weeks, so we don't have a back up center without her for the time being. Morello probably gets paid whether we cut her or not, but she was out for 6 weeks anyway. I think Morello is better but neither have shown anything this season or last. Maybe Morello gets healty when Sancho gets back.


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 6:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good trade for Connecticut. Trade a fringe roster player who was claimed off waivers and isn't even in the rotation for a future asset.



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PostPosted: 06/08/17 7:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I don't know who we would cut - Morello? Simmons? Holivay?


Any of them would be fine. Maybe cut Hooper if she doesn't show something while Sancho is gone.



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PostPosted: 06/08/17 7:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Good trade for Connecticut. Trade a fringe roster player who was claimed off waivers and isn't even in the rotation for a future asset.


At present it would be 19th pick. Not exactly much of an asset. She can hit 3's - something we lack.

Here's the best part - Dream play the Sun on Saturday. Hoops can burn her old team before she even has to leave town. Laughing


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 7:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Considering everyone loves the depth of the 2018 draft, seems expensive for someone Connecticut are giving up on after a month (after Dallas dumped her for nothing).

On the bright side, at least Hooper hits her threes occasionally. I'm deeply tired of the Meighan Simmons Experiment, and I'm not even a Dream fan.



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PostPosted: 06/08/17 8:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hooper is changing numbers to #53, which suggests the Dream believe Angel McCoughtry is coming back at some point



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PostPosted: 06/08/17 8:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Meanwhile,

Matee Ajavon is planting seeds for a career after basketball.


http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2017/06/how_ex-rutgers_star_matee_ajavon_is_bridging_a_big.html


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 8:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Hooper is changing numbers to #53, which suggests the Dream believe Angel McCoughtry is coming back at some point


You might be right, but even if Angel never played another game for the Dream her number should be retired when she is done playing. So no one else should be using it.


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PostPosted: 06/08/17 10:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Meanwhile,

Matee Ajavon is planting seeds for a career after basketball.


http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2017/06/how_ex-rutgers_star_matee_ajavon_is_bridging_a_big.html


Good timing. I've been thinking how lost she's looked this season...except for the last game where she actually contributed. Anyway it's a good idea and hopefully it works out for her.



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PostPosted: 06/09/17 2:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I like the trade, especially since I ~predicted 5/8ths of this, minus Lyttle and a 1st rounder being part of it. So I have to say I like it, and I like it anyway independent of ego-wankery.

Now if Hooper just is given solid playing time ... more room for Hayes + Clarendon to operate.


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PostPosted: 06/25/17 2:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dream Waive Hollivay, Kiesel

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-waive-hollivay-kiesel/

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Veteran forward Sancho Lyttle, who is competing for Team Spain in the EuroBasket tournament, will return to the team this week



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PostPosted: 06/25/17 3:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Dream Waive Hollivay, Kiesel

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-waive-hollivay-kiesel/

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Veteran forward Sancho Lyttle, who is competing for Team Spain in the EuroBasket tournament, will return to the team this week


not suprised on both but waiving 2 is Angel getting ready to return


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PostPosted: 06/25/17 4:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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pilight wrote:
Dream Waive Hollivay, Kiesel

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-waive-hollivay-kiesel/

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Veteran forward Sancho Lyttle, who is competing for Team Spain in the EuroBasket tournament, will return to the team this week


not suprised on both but waiving 2 is Angel getting ready to return


So that last game that Hollivay started was just a kind jesture by Cooper? Must be bringing someone else in.



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PostPosted: 06/25/17 5:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well those two just haven't contributed at all. I had hope for Kiesel but she did next to nothing. Angel was at the Sky game to be honored, maybe she is coming back. However. we have no backup PG , so makes me think they have a PG coming in. Not sure who that would be. (On second thought - we have Ajavon to backup Clarendon. Sad Maybe it is Angel)


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PostPosted: 06/25/17 11:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Well those two just haven't contributed at all. I had hope for Kiesel but she did next to nothing. Angel was at the Sky game to be honored, maybe she is coming back. However. we have no backup PG , so makes me think they have a PG coming in. Not sure who that would be. (On second thought - we have Ajavon to backup Clarendon. Sad Maybe it is Angel)


Ajavon can back up the PG. Who else has been doing it if Kiesel doesn't get minutes?

Should I make a quick poll on who ATL is signing? My money is on McCoughtry, but Burdick is floating around out there. Hasn't Cooper always liked her? But I would think they would announce a signing of Burdick at the same time they announce the cut of Hollivay. Maybe they're waiting to make a big event out of a McCoughtry signing. Quite a mystery here. ATL fans should be on top of this.



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Ajavon can back up the PG. Who else has been doing it if Kiesel doesn't get minutes?


Sykes got the job against Chicago. Hayes has done it some as well.



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PostPosted: 06/26/17 7:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Shades wrote:
Ajavon can back up the PG. Who else has been doing it if Kiesel doesn't get minutes?


Sykes got the job against Chicago. Hayes has done it some as well.


That resulted in a couple 24 second violations. I like Sykes though - not too sure she is a PG though.

Shades - Cooper cut Burdick in favor of Gray and Holivay last year, so I kind of doubt it's her. My guess is they want to make a splash surrounding whatever happens with Angel (return or trade?)


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PostPosted: 06/26/17 11:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

C'mon Randy, you don't honestly think they're trading the franchise. Why not just pull up the stakes in ATL if that's the case. Do you like the team better without McCoughtry?

What kind of deal do you think Cooper could get for McCoughtry that would be worth making a presumably playoff contender even better? I'm guessing a team like NYL, PHX, or WAS would love to acquire McCoughtry to get them over the hump in beating teams like MIN and LAS.

Let's see, WAS doesn't really need Meesseman any more. Meesseman and 2018 first rounder? Is that enough to make WAS nearly unbeatable? Throw in Latta maybe?



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PostPosted: 06/26/17 12:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That works for me. And it could be sold as Angel wanted to go home. (As good an excuse as any.)

I just think Angel has taken the Dream as far as she can. We don't have the talent to build a contender with her, but we do have some nice young players. We should move Angel and get a good draft pick or two. We would have a much better team in a few years. Plus, Angel's value will drop as she gets older and may continue to take time off when it suits her.


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LAS has a bunch of assets, but I'd hate giving them any help.

Lavender plus Wiese plus first round in 2018 for McCoughtry. Which deal you liking more so far?


McCoughtry has set up shop in ATL, and she's been going to games (showing that she's still engaged with the team). Like I've said before, I think ATL would be crazy to give her up if she's showing that much dedication to the community and team.

Maya has me a little nervous in that way. After her contract is up (expires after '18 season, I believe), who knows what she'll want to do? The team might be in rebuild mode by then, and I'm not aware of any Maya investments in the community. I wouldn't be surprised if Maya still uses her original apartment the team supplies to its players. If Maya was buying a house and businesses in the area, I'd feel a lot better about her staying past 8 years.



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I just think Angel has taken the Dream as far as she can. We don't have the talent to build a contender with her, but we do have some nice young players. We should move Angel and get a good draft pick or two. We would have a much better team in a few years. Plus, Angel's value will drop as she gets older and may continue to take time off when it suits her.


That's nonsense. That's like the Fever trading Catchings after 2010.



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Randy wrote:
I just think Angel has taken the Dream as far as she can. We don't have the talent to build a contender with her, but we do have some nice young players. We should move Angel and get a good draft pick or two. We would have a much better team in a few years. Plus, Angel's value will drop as she gets older and may continue to take time off when it suits her.


That's nonsense. That's like the Fever trading Catchings after 2010.


Maybe it is, but how far do you think she can take the Dream?

I think Catchings had more commitment to the Fever than Angel has to the Dream, and Catchings was a better player and certainly a better leader than Angel.

If Angel comes back we are looking at probably making the playoff and having first (or at best 2nd) round exit. The Dream might be able to do that without her. Last year we were 17/16 with Angel (lost the game she was suspended.) I don't see how that translates into the Dream being able to match the success of the Fever in 2012.


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... If Angel comes back we are looking at probably making the playoff and having first (or at best 2nd) round exit. The Dream might be able to do that without her...


You cannot be serious. Atlanta is a game under .500, and they haven't really played anybody yet. They've lost twice to a team that only has three wins. I mean, you guys have a couple of 'winnable' games in your next five but, if you're not at least 8-8 by the time you go to Phoenix, you're probably not going to finish the season within ten games of .500.



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PostPosted: 06/26/17 2:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

We beat the Sparks. We beat the 3 Superstar Storm. We were 17-17 last year with Angel. We got beat twice by the Stars last year.

And exactly how many points, rebounds, assists steals and blocks has Angel gotten us so far this season?


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You guys beat the Sparks every year, that should barely even count; even when you guys went 4-30, you still beat the Sparks. Let me know when you beat the Lynx, Mystics or Liberty, or even the Mercury.



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And exactly how many points, rebounds, assists steals and blocks has Angel gotten us so far this season?


You probably could have used a couple on Friday night, especially when none of Hayes' teammates trusted her enough to get her the ball, and nobody else could get their own shot.

If nothing else, the 2017 Atlanta Dream season has opened my eyes to how mediocre a player Tiffany Hayes is. I can't see any team where she's the best player ever even making the playoffs.



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You guys beat the Sparks every year, that should barely even count; even when you guys went 4-30, you still beat the Sparks. Let me know when you beat the Lynx, Mystics or Liberty, or even the Mercury.


Dream were 0-3 against the Lynx, 1-2 against LA, NY, Pho and DC. 4-11 total with Angel. This year DC is much better, of course.


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Randy wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
You guys beat the Sparks every year, that should barely even count; even when you guys went 4-30, you still beat the Sparks. Let me know when you beat the Lynx, Mystics or Liberty, or even the Mercury.


Dream were 0-3 against the Lynx, 1-2 against LA, NY, Pho and DC. 4-11 total with Angel. This year DC is much better, of course.

Alright. Believe what you want to. Just try not to be too surprised when you're 8-15 at the end of July.



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PostPosted: 06/26/17 4:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Shades wrote:
Ajavon can back up the PG. Who else has been doing it if Kiesel doesn't get minutes?


Sykes got the job against Chicago. Hayes has done it some as well.


I hope they are bringing in another PG. If not they are in trouble. I think Hayes is better not having to bring the ball up court and having energy to score.


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https://twitter.com/angel_35/status/879464847674572801

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Let me clear these rumors up so I can be left alone and enjoy my summer. Everybody's knows I'm signed to go back to Russia and that's that!



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Atlanta Dream Sign Darxia Morris

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-sign-darxia-morris/

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The Atlanta Dream has also announced the activation of Sancho Lyttle, who has returned to the team after leading Team Spain to the 2017 FIBA EuroBasket title.



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Atlanta Dream Sign Darxia Morris

http://dream.wnba.com/news/atlanta-dream-sign-darxia-morris/

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The Atlanta Dream has also announced the activation of Sancho Lyttle, who has returned to the team after leading Team Spain to the 2017 FIBA EuroBasket title.


That's pretty anticlimatic.



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PostPosted: 06/26/17 7:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I just read the thread posts from today and it was super dramatic (until the end).

OMG they cut two player
OMG who is it going to be
OMG Angel is coming back
OMG they are activating Angel and trading her, maybe the Liberty will get her or Washington or LA
OMG Angel is so annoyed by rumors that she posted she isn't coming back
Oh...they signed Daraxia Morris


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PostPosted: 06/26/17 9:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Seemed like Morris was better in the pre-season so maybe she should have made the team in the first place.


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Michael cooper and there dreams are coming into fruition . Laughing



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http://summitthoops.com/2017/06/26/angel-mccoughtry-wnba-intentions/


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Earlier today,I was referring to the rumors that I had sign to Galatasary in turkey! I was not referring to anything about the WNBA


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WNBA 09 wrote:
http://summitthoops.com/2017/06/26/angel-mccoughtry-wnba-intentions/


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Angel McCoughtry ✔ @angel_35
Earlier today,I was referring to the rumors that I had sign to Galatasary in turkey! I was not referring to anything about the WNBA


#FairEnough


Glad she cleared that up. I hate speculation and rumors. They cause too many problems and too many debates. Like to hear information directly from the player or the team.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
http://summitthoops.com/2017/06/26/angel-mccoughtry-wnba-intentions/


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Angel McCoughtry ✔ @angel_35
Earlier today,I was referring to the rumors that I had sign to Galatasary in turkey! I was not referring to anything about the WNBA


#FairEnough


Glad she cleared that up. I hate speculation and rumors. They cause too many problems and too many debates. Like to hear information directly from the player or the team.


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shontay33 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
http://summitthoops.com/2017/06/26/angel-mccoughtry-wnba-intentions/


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Angel McCoughtry ✔ @angel_35
Earlier today,I was referring to the rumors that I had sign to Galatasary in turkey! I was not referring to anything about the WNBA


#FairEnough


Glad she cleared that up. I hate speculation and rumors. They cause too many problems and too many debates. Like to hear information directly from the player or the team.


I'm not sure what's cleared up. You care about whether she goes to Turkey or Russia? There's going to be even more speculation now. McCoughtry felt it was important to clear up that she wasn't saying anything about WNBA. To me, that means she's intersted in returning this season. Maybe the decision will be based on how much of a contender they have in the team. Or perhaps she already has a return date planned, like Parker in 2015.



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shontay33 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
http://summitthoops.com/2017/06/26/angel-mccoughtry-wnba-intentions/


Quote:
Angel McCoughtry ✔ @angel_35
Earlier today,I was referring to the rumors that I had sign to Galatasary in turkey! I was not referring to anything about the WNBA


#FairEnough


Glad she cleared that up. I hate speculation and rumors. They cause too many problems and too many debates. Like to hear information directly from the player or the team.


She didn't really clear anything up. She already said she signed with Russia to stop rumors so she could enjoy her summer. All we know is whatever rumors she heard had to do with Gala. We have no clue if she is playing this season or not, not that I care much.


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