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PostPosted: 09/25/16 2:39 pm    ::: Atlanta Dream 2017 Reply Reply with quote

Assuming we get Dantas back and Lyttle is healthy, the post depth issues should be partly alleviated. We should be looking guard in the draft.



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PostPosted: 09/25/16 3:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

You got much more this year from Holmes, Clarendon, and EWill than I could have imagined. Will they continue on the upward path or revert?

Holmes in particular reminds me of a young Angel. Yes, really! Including the erratic shooting. But with her particular skill set, she's in a great place to learn and improve. She fits remarkably well with this team.

Yeah, I would say guard depth should be a point of emphasis. Alexis Jones maybe? Or Kelsey Plum... if either are there at your pick.



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PostPosted: 09/25/16 4:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Will Lyttle get healthy and effective again?



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PostPosted: 09/25/16 6:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Lyttle is their question mark. Add a guard and they're set with (finally) a deep bench.

PG: Clarendon/Cortijo
SG: Hayes/draft pick/Ajavon
SF: McCoughtry/Gray
PF: Holmes/Lyttle
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PostPosted: 09/25/16 7:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Lyttle is their question mark. Add a guard and they're set with (finally) a deep bench.

PG: Clarendon/Cortijo
SG: Hayes/draft pick/Ajavon
SF: McCoughtry/Gray
PF: Holmes/Lyttle
C: Williams/Dantas/Gatling


We must have different definitions of a deep bench. This looks like a scary weak bench. And Holmes really isn't a PF against most teams, as we saw today.



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PostPosted: 09/25/16 7:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Lyttle is their question mark. Add a guard and they're set with (finally) a deep bench.

PG: Clarendon/Cortijo
SG: Hayes/draft pick/Ajavon
SF: McCoughtry/Gray
PF: Holmes/Lyttle
C: Williams/Dantas/Gatling


More like this

Clarendon/Ajavon(1-2)
Hayes/
McCoughtry/Holmes(2-3)
Lyttle/Gray(4)
Williams/Dantas(4-5)

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Cortijo
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PostPosted: 09/25/16 9:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Lyttle is their question mark. Add a guard and they're set with (finally) a deep bench.

PG: Clarendon/Cortijo
SG: Hayes/draft pick/Ajavon
SF: McCoughtry/Gray
PF: Holmes/Lyttle
C: Williams/Dantas/Gatling


We must have different definitions of a deep bench. This looks like a scary weak bench. And Holmes really isn't a PF against most teams, as we saw today.


The bench is awful, due to years of bad drafting and giving guards to Connecticut. We should have dismissed Angela Taylor much earlier.



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PostPosted: 09/25/16 10:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

C'mon, pilight. You know Taylor was just rubber stamping whatever Cooper wanted.



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PostPosted: 09/25/16 11:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The bench is awful, due to years of bad drafting and giving guards to Connecticut. We should have dismissed Angela Taylor much earlier.


Or cutting players they should have kept. This team should have been set at starting PG for years to come if they didn't screw up who they kept in 2014 (and obviously I'm not talking about Dumerc).



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PostPosted: 09/26/16 12:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Clarendon,Dantas & 1st rd pick for D.Robinson ???

G-Robinson
G-Hayes
C-Williams
F-Lyttle
F-MCcoughtry


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PostPosted: 09/26/16 1:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Clarendon,Dantas & 1st rd pick for D.Robinson ???

G-Robinson
G-Hayes
C-Williams
F-Lyttle
F-MCcoughtry


I actually don't want to give up Clarendon. I know she wasn't super great in Indy, but I always had a soft spot for her, so I was thrilled when she came to Atlanta. The play she gave this year was so much more than I could have asked for. Would Robinson be a great PG? Absolutely, but I liked the chemistry Atlanta was able to have this year. Plus, Clarendon showed she can hit the open 3, which is very needed. That can keep things open for Hayes and even Angel.


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PostPosted: 09/26/16 1:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Clarendon,Dantas & 1st rd pick for D.Robinson ???

G-Robinson
G-Hayes
C-Williams
F-Lyttle
F-MCcoughtry



Why would San Antonio part with the best part of that trade? An all-star for up until this year a reserve guard, and a still unproven post and a weak draft.

I'd pass on that in a heartbeat if I'm SA.


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PostPosted: 09/26/16 3:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think Robinson could be gotten for cheaper than that, but curious how ATL fans feel about this.

ATL would have to make sure Robinson is healthy enough to be worthy of such a price, and SAN would have to make sure Dantas would be okay with that trade. Young foreign players aren't always amenable to getting bounced around. They're used to signing where they want to play. This would be the 3rd club for Dantas, and she only played a handful of games for ATL.



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PostPosted: 09/27/16 2:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think D-Rob is the best fit with the current Dream roster, I like her more in Dallas, LA, Was, or NY.

Clarendon, E. Will, Hayes, McCoughtry and Holmes seem like the Dream core, they need a stretch 4 and maybe a vet who can come in and keep things steady, C. Little or Langhorne might work in Atl if they can pick them up for free, actual if Pierson still has something left she might be abetter fit than either Camille or Crystal, but I would like to see them get someone younger and more exciting and move Lyttle to Cash status veteran back up. I'm not usually one to throw players under the bus but I think it is time for Simmons and Ajevon to go.

Atl might not have the right pieces if they want to hold onto their new youth movement but GloJo might be a good fit for the Dream. N. Howard might be the right player to target but why would Minny give her up? Having already formed a relationship with Dantas would Dantas and a first round pick tempt the Lynx? Would R. Gray and a guard/sf they pick with Atl #7 pick (Coffey, Scaife, Weise) be enough maybe but Doubt it, Howard is working out well in Minny, but Howard could start in Atlanta and be that missing piece.

Atl's draft pick is #7 if they want a post B. Jones from Maryland or a falling A. Coates seem like the only bigs that might mid to lottery first round picks if either last until #7. Some interesting big guards might still be on the board (Scaife, Epps, Coffey) if Atl might be interested in going small with McCoughtry moving to the PF spot ala later career Catch, they could start Holmes at the SF and have a nice young guard off the bench.


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PostPosted: 09/28/16 5:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Lyttle is their question mark. Add a guard and they're set with (finally) a deep bench.

PG: Clarendon/Cortijo
SG: Hayes/draft pick/Ajavon
SF: McCoughtry/Gray
PF: Holmes/Lyttle
C: Williams/Dantas/Gatling


Put Alexis Jones with this roster. She can be a playmaker or she can play off the ball. She has a good outside shot and is incredibly athletic. She can backup the 1 and the 2.


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PostPosted: 10/11/16 7:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This year drafts al depends on who is coming out early actually. I almost guaranteed that Diamond will leave early. I am also hoping that Lexi Brown leaves. IF this occurs then we have a shot a getting a GOOD PG with our first pick. The PG that are coming out (in no order): Jones, Allen (ND), Plum, and Brown (hopefully). All four of these PGs can come in and do better (to me) than our current situation. I do think that Robinson would fit in PERFECT with our team. Before the injury, she was extremely quick (we are a quick team), great on defense (she start a lot of our running game with steals), can penetrate very well, and has a nice mid range shot. Heck she even shoots 3s like we do (lol, that was a joke but true...she is no ones three point shooter). I think with Jefferson earning a lot of minutes at the PG and Mcbride back, that MIGHT push Robinson as a bench player (I know that McBride has played SF before but her natural position is a SG and she is just to short at the SF TO ME). With San Antonio receiving the #1 pick, they could choose Diamond for the SF position and have Jefferson, Mcbride, and Diamond as their guards which is not bad. Do we think Robinson would want to play back up at SA when she could start in ATL? I really don't care which PGs we give up to SA for the trade (a PG with and our first round draft pick so they can get a big).

In the second round their are some no name bigs that I think would help us out ALOT. EW needs a backup BAD!!!! Dantas is NO ONES CENTER!!!! She does not like contact. We need someone that can come in and give EW a break sometime. I think we need to try and pick up BOTH Kendall-Copper and Chidom. Yes, I am a Duke fan but we have seen that Duke players are coming out of college underdeveloped but the talent is there. Both players bring some good things to the floor that we could use (Chidom at the PF and Cooper at the center). Since we wont need them to play bigger roles until midway through the season we could help them develop until then. Since both players go to Duke and they will suck this year, most coaches wont even have them on their radar (a lot of WNBA coaches go for names before talent). We took a chance with Hollivay for God sakes...I promise Cooper nor Chidom is that bad.

There is also a player that we can pick up that has talent but landed on the wrong team this past season. Butler from Syracuse is a GREAT guard. Butler would help us out with our 3 point shooting, she has size and also plays good defense. I think this was a case where teams really didn't follow Syracuse like that, so they do not know the talent that she has. Lets be honest as well, its not hard to beat out Matee and Simmons).

PG: Robinson (if we can get a trade)/ Best PG in draft available first round (with no trade)/ Clarendon or Cortijo
SG: Hayes/ Butler
SF: Angel/Homes (either can bump up or down to play SG or PF at times)
PF: Lyttle/Gray/Chidom
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PostPosted: 11/05/16 2:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Angel really is becoming one of my favorite players to watch: https://twitter.com/WNBAOverseas/status/794268966499864576

Tip Hayes: https://twitter.com/WNBAOverseas/status/794274089376612359


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PostPosted: 11/06/16 12:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In response to Sprotzjunky. You forgot about Leticial Romero is a senior.
But either way Prahalis > Jones/Allen/Plum/Brown/Romero at point guard. And she'll still only be 27 (next year). I mean as long as you want to pick up another player who perhaps fell to the wrong team, why not pick up a super skilled player who already proved she was good but fell into some bad luck?



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My sense is they wouldn't do it now that the TV money makes the losses more bearable, but interesting to note that the Hawks are bringing a D-League team to College Park and planning a new 3500 seat venue for that team...


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My sense is they wouldn't do it now that the TV money makes the losses more bearable, but interesting to note that the Hawks are bringing a D-League team to College Park and planning a new 3500 seat venue for that team...


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I know that pilight Very Happy

Weird issue killed all my prior posts, but as the guy that started the team I understand their ownership structure....I was merely noting that it may eventually get tempting to lease a brand new pro basketball facility seating 3500 that I am sure would be cheaper than leasing Philips....and look better on TV given current attendance levels...all depending on how nice they make the new facility...


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Sorry pilight...my bad memory had me trying to post under another username that I thought was mine Embarassed Very Happy


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PostPosted: 11/13/16 6:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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In response to Sprotzjunky. You forgot about Leticial Romero is a senior.
But either way Prahalis > Jones/Allen/Plum/Brown/Romero at point guard. And she'll still only be 27 (next year). I mean as long as you want to pick up another player who perhaps fell to the wrong team, why not pick up a super skilled player who already proved she was good but fell into some bad luck?


New to this board but I've been reading it for a few weeks now. Not new to women's b-ball.

I'm sorry but I've seen Prahalis play A LOT and I don't think she's better those players you mentioned. She's flashy yes but her game is off and her attitude has been issues for her teammates which is why she never stuck in the WNBA and I believe it is also a factor as to why she's not playing overseas right now (unless she's been just recently picked up). I have a friend of a friend or a recently former PHX Mercury player who has she can be quite difficult to play with at times. There IS a reason she's been quickly dropped from the WNBA teams that signed her. I'm not knocking her and she IS a decent player but she's not really suitable for the WNBA for reasons I have stated above.


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"I have a friend of a friend of a former PHX Mercury player....". Sounds like a very credible source to me Rolling Eyes And if you ACTUALLY have seen her play a lot, I don't believe you that you don't think she's legit or you're just a poor talent evaluator. Sometimes really really good players just run into some bad luck believe it or not and there isn't actually something wrong with the player or their talent.



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Jet Jaguar wrote:
"I have a friend of a friend of a former PHX Mercury player....". Sounds like a very credible source to me Rolling Eyes And if you ACTUALLY have seen her play a lot, I don't believe you that you don't think she's legit or you're just a poor talent evaluator. Sometimes really really good players just run into some bad luck believe it or not and there isn't actually something wrong with the player or their talent.


Yes actually, it IS a credible source and if you think being cut from practically half of the WNBA and overseas is just "bad luck" and not "her" then damn girl, that's some real bad luck considering there are some guards right now that shouldn't even BE in the WNBA.


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PostPosted: 11/14/16 10:08 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
Jet Jaguar wrote:
"I have a friend of a friend of a former PHX Mercury player....". Sounds like a very credible source to me Rolling Eyes And if you ACTUALLY have seen her play a lot, I don't believe you that you don't think she's legit or you're just a poor talent evaluator. Sometimes really really good players just run into some bad luck believe it or not and there isn't actually something wrong with the player or their talent.


Yes actually, it IS a credible source and if you think being cut from practically half of the WNBA and overseas is just "bad luck" and not "her" then damn girl, that's some real bad luck considering there are some guards right now that shouldn't even BE in the WNBA.

My point exactly! PG in the league is so weak. It sucks. But I think it'll turn around. Just needs the right coach and GM to believe in her again. I have enough evidence to the contrary that she is neither a problem with coaches nor teammates. Even if your source is real, not everybody is going to like everybody. My guess would be the player you are referring to is either Alexis Gray Lawson or maybe Brianna Butler (formerly Gilbreath), or possibly Dymond Simon. Any of which were probably just jealous of her talent.



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Jet Jaguar wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
Jet Jaguar wrote:
"I have a friend of a friend of a former PHX Mercury player....". Sounds like a very credible source to me Rolling Eyes And if you ACTUALLY have seen her play a lot, I don't believe you that you don't think she's legit or you're just a poor talent evaluator. Sometimes really really good players just run into some bad luck believe it or not and there isn't actually something wrong with the player or their talent.


Yes actually, it IS a credible source and if you think being cut from practically half of the WNBA and overseas is just "bad luck" and not "her" then damn girl, that's some real bad luck considering there are some guards right now that shouldn't even BE in the WNBA.

My point exactly! PG in the league is so weak. It sucks. But I think it'll turn around. Just needs the right coach and GM to believe in her again. I have enough evidence to the contrary that she is neither a problem with coaches nor teammates. Even if your source is real, not everybody is going to like everybody. My guess would be the player you are referring to is either Alexis Gray Lawson or maybe Brianna Butler (formerly Gilbreath), or possibly Dymond Simon. Any of which were probably just jealous of her talent.


No, my sources are none of those people.

There are a few players in the league right now that are considered good or great players but have less than desirable personalities (McCoughtry, Parker etc) but they still remain in the league. Prahalis is not a bad player and would fit on a few teams as a 10 minute per game backup point guard but she's been shuffled around so much now that teams are not going to consider her anymore because they think, wow, something must/is off with her. I mean, even Schimmel still remains in this league even though she should have been booted long ago. So what is it about Prahalis? It's got nothing to do with 'lets give her another chance'. She's had enough chances and hasn't been able to stick with any team, even ones that signed her NEEDING a point guard. Each time she was signed to a training camp, she showed nothing. Phoenix has thrown away young guards (Prahalis, Courtney Williams) and in Williams case, it was a mistake. Prahalis played OK in her rookie season with PHX, but was let go after her rookie season and she never stuck with anyone else. Her personality and demeanor have a LOT more to do with it than you think it does. She's been deemed uncoachable in the WNBA. Coaches don't want that negative type of personality on their teams. That is the main reason she doesn't and will not ever play in this league again. And even if she does get yet another chance, she won't stick. She didn't even keep her overseas job even though she played well over there. I get it that you like her, but don't know what goes on behind the locker room door.

Would I want her on my favorite WNBA team even if they desperately needed a PG? Not in a million years. They've already had to deal with their share of negative attitudes in the locker room.


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"I get that you like her, but don't know what goes on behind the locker room door".

So supposedly knowing someone who knows someone who says a player told them something means you do? I agree that GM's may THINK something is off with her, but that doesn't mean there is. You have no idea why she was cut from Phoenix, Atlanta, is not on an overseas team. Anything. So don't pretend you do. You're like everyone else on here who passes judgement on a player without even knowing them or what players and coaches actually think of her. I can assure you they think very highly of her and like working with her.

In the meantime you can stop posting RUMORS (which is exactly what these are) you've heard about a player, and go back to just reading posts on here like you did before. Good day.



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Jet Jaguar wrote:
"I get that you like her, but don't know what goes on behind the locker room door".

So supposedly knowing someone who knows someone who says a player told them something means you do? I agree that GM's may THINK something is off with her, but that doesn't mean there is. You have no idea why she was cut from Phoenix, Atlanta, is not on an overseas team. Anything. So don't pretend you do. You're like everyone else on here who passes judgement on a player without even knowing them or what players and coaches actually think of her. I can assure you they think very highly of her and like working with her.

In the meantime you can stop posting RUMORS (which is exactly what these are) you've heard about a player, and go back to just reading posts on here like you did before. Good day.


Hey no need to be bitter and childish here. I was just sharing my take on the situation from what I've heard from a couple people I know that know a few players from the WNBA.


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What's childish is spreading bad rumors about someone you don't know. And now it's a "couple people". What happens is someone says something about someone about what they think of a person and that person hears it and tells it to someone else who tells it and pretty soon it's not just something someone thought, it becomes fact. When in fact, it's a rumor. It's possible this particular person didn't like her. Even if that's the case let's not jump to the conclusion that she is universally disliked. You state it as fact as that's why she's not on a team. When I know for a fact that you are wrong.

BTW through process of elimination and you saying "recent" former Mercury player I think I know who it is. And I take what she thinks with a grain of salt.



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Jet Jaguar wrote:
What's childish is spreading bad rumors about someone you don't know. And now it's a "couple people". What happens is someone says something about someone about what they think of a person and that person hears it and tells it to someone else who tells it and pretty soon it's not just something someone thought, it becomes fact. When in fact, it's a rumor. It's possible this particular person didn't like her. Even if that's the case let's not jump to the conclusion that she is universally disliked. You state it as fact as that's why she's not on a team. When I know for a fact that you are wrong.

BTW through process of elimination and you saying "recent" former Mercury player I think I know who it is. And I take what she thinks with a grain of salt.


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Posting rumors is just fine IMO. Just put an IMO. Everything here is basically IMO. If everybody posted only fact, the board would be pretty empty.



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If everybody posted only fact, the board would be pretty empty.

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Opinions and rumors contain the words "I think" or "I believe" or "maybe" or "possibly". My issue was this person is stating why she's not playing as FACT. When in fact it isn't. Just a rumor or hearsay from (to me) a less than credible source.



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Luuuc wrote:
myrtle wrote:
If everybody posted only fact, the board would be pretty empty.

In your opinion.


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With Angel sitting out, where do the dream go from here? I'm assuming that Gatling and Holivay are gone if Dantas is back. I believe that they'll either use the 7th pick on a SF or a bigger guard who could play SF. With a big guard, if Angel decided to come back midway through the season, Atlanta could waive Simmons and move a player like Weise or Epps into a backup guard spot. San Antonio will probably get rid of either Knight of Gwathmey. I'f I'm Atlanta I would probably take my chances with the draft over either of them. Atlanta could also make a trade but i"m not sure who they'd get without having to give up a starter. If I'm Atlanta Hayes, Holmes, and Williams would be untouchable and it would have to be a pretty lopsided trade for me to give up Clarendon or Lyttle.

Possible Picks
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Epps
Davis
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PG: Clarendon/ Cortijo
SG: Hayes/ Ajavon/ Simmons
SF: Holmes/ #7 or FA
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Coffey would be a good choice to backup Holmes.
Walker-Kimbrough if you think she big enough to play SF.
I could see Cooper being a Nina Davis fan.
His namesake Shayla Cooper is also a possibility.

Cooper could also pray for Kaela Davis or Victoria Vivians to enter and fall to #7.

So many possibilities!



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PostPosted: 01/04/17 7:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Outside of Williams, Hayes & Holmes, this Dream team is just a bunch of average players. Lyttle's towards the end of her career so I wouldn't count her as able to carry this team.



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PostPosted: 01/04/17 9:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2017 isn't a bad year to suck unless everyone declares 2018 is deep

Wilson, Mitchell, Turner, Deshields, Mavunga, K. Davis, Gray, Vivians, Canada, G. Williams, Russell, and there are probably a couple of other true juniors who i haven't even touched on


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PostPosted: 01/04/17 9:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Coffey would be a good choice to backup Holmes.
Walker-Kimbrough if you think she big enough to play SF.
I could see Cooper being a Nina Davis fan.
His namesake Shayla Cooper is also a possibility.

Cooper could also pray for Kaela Davis or Victoria Vivians to enter and fall to #7.

So many possibilities!


I think Hayes could move over to SF in a pinch. She could play kamikaze there just as well as at SG. That increases the possibles. Coffey would probably be a good pick. It's hard to know now who will fall out of the top five. Weise will be there but doesn't play run and gun style in college and since she will transition to SF (IMO) it would be a lot to ask of her. I keep expecting Cooper to be better than she shows. Is it just the tOSU style that somehow stunts her play, or is she simply not as good as all that athleticism would leave one to believe? I know you and I will agree to disagree but IMO Nina in the first round is a wasted pick. She is not even close to being the best player on her college team which doesn't bode well (unless you play with someone like Stewie).



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SWK and K Davis are better fits for this team than Coffey IMO



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SWK and K Davis are better fits for this team than Coffey IMO


I don't think SWK will be available at that point, but yeah, she would be good. Davis is inconsistent but when she's on, she's dynamic. Any of them will need to adjust of course. And no matter who they get, without Angel, the Dream will be left Dreamin about better times to come after the 2018 lottery.



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PostPosted: 01/05/17 3:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
Wilson, Mitchell, Turner, Deshields, Mavunga, K. Davis, Gray, Vivians, Canada, G. Williams, Russell, and there are probably a couple of other true juniors who i haven't even touched on


Omigarsh.... deepest ever? I sorted yours out by tiers and added a few. There's probably some I'm forgetting. I even put 12[11] in Tier 1. I was waffling on Billings, but I thought I better slip her into T1 to avoid being besieged by her fans.

2018 Prospects assuming no declarations
Tier 1
K Mitchell
A Wilson
G Williams
B Turner
K Davis
D DeShields
A Stevens [edit: a top eligible]
M Russell
K Nurse
J Canada
V Vivians
M Billings

Tier 2
L Brown
R Greenwell
S Mavunga
A Gray
T Buss
J Nared
Hines-Allen
M Moore
S Thomas

Tier 3(Lots can be added here)
A Doss
K Flaherty
A Atkins
K Wallace
A Hart

With the 35-36th pick.... C Wagner



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myrtle wrote:
I think Hayes could move over to SF in a pinch.


That would further solidify the notion that ATL is tanking.

myrtle wrote:
She could play kamikaze there just as well as at SG.


Playing kamikaze with the ATL season.

myrtle wrote:
That increases the possibles.


Increases the possibility of a Top 4 pick.

myrtle wrote:
Coffey would probably be a good pick.


Damn right. She's one of my best bets to secure a roster spot. Of course, nobody believed me on Holmes.

myrtle wrote:
Weise will be there


Yes, she will.

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but doesn't play run and gun style in college and since she will transition to SF (IMO) it would be a lot to ask of her.


Yes it would.

myrtle wrote:
I keep expecting Cooper to be better than she shows. Is it just the tOSU style that somehow stunts her play, or is she simply not as good as all that athleticism would leave one to believe?


Be patient. Opinions can veer sharply based on current play. I like her energy level.

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I know you and I will agree to disagree but IMO Nina in the first round is a wasted pick. She is not even close to being the best player on her college team which doesn't bode well


You could be right, but she's not like a Brittany Martin or Jamie Weisner wasted pick. You can't totally discount what she's already accomplished just because Baylor no longer needs her to be the go-to on offense. She was first team All-American.



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The reasons I'm not as MAD at
ATL for tanking as I was with PHX:
1. They're not already a Championship-worthy team. They're a shell of the team they were early in the decade.
2. The Two-Season Rule (enacted because of PHX) will make it tough for ATL to secure the #1 pick.
3. The talent is deep in 2018. Unless a team trades out of the first round in 2018, every team should come away with a very nice player. Sure, you'd always want first choice, but not having first choice really isn't so bad. I'd sure like to have Kelsey Mitchell on my team though.



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I think A. Stevens still has two years of college eligibility. So, unless she forgoes her last year, she won't be out until 2019



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Shades wrote:
The reasons I'm not as MAD at
ATL for tanking as I was with PHX:
1. They're not already a Championship-worthy team. They're a shell of the team they were early in the decade.
2. The Two-Season Rule (enacted because of PHX) will make it tough for ATL to secure the #1 pick.
3. The talent is deep in 2018. Unless a team trades out of the first round in 2018, every team should come away with a very nice player. Sure, you'd always want first choice, but not having first choice really isn't so bad. I'd sure like to have Kelsey Mitchell on my team though.


Why would you think Atlanta is tanking at all if Angel decided on her own to take the year off. This isn't a situation like Phoenix where Taurasi played some, sat some for Griner.

Also, I don't think the Dream are in that bad shape, with Hayes, Williams, Clarendon, and Holmes all on the upswing in their careers.


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I think A. Stevens still has two years of college eligibility. So, unless she forgoes her last year, she won't be out until 2019


I think you're right. I didn't fact check off of Spooner's list. I guess makes only 11 for my Tier 1.

Although, I must say, if she gets that championship trophy she's chasing, I wonder if she'll consider bailing after one year.

Will she end up with a Duke degree or a Connecticut degree? Will it be recognized as 50/50? That was a kinda big sacrifice in that way just to chase a championship. Maybe education isn't the highest priority. And the irony is Duke is doing well without her. How storybook would it be if Duke knocked off UConn somewhere down the road.

Seeing as the quality of her degree wasn't the top priority, maybe she's looking to jump into the WNBA as soon as possible? An argument could be made.

It'll also be interesting to see what role she'll have next year. Is Geno going to tinker with his current starting lineup, especially if he wins a championship with it? It'll be interesting to see. Stay tuned.



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Alternately, the Dream could slow things down and play through the post more. Head coach Michael Cooper has sung the praises of center Elizabeth Williams fairly often since Atlanta acquired her, expressing his pleasure with her back-to-the-basket game and hinting that his offense would be more well-rounded because of it. Williams won 2016’s Most Improved Player Award and certainly looks like she’d be able to take on an even bigger role in 2017, should Cooper give one to her.




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