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Silky Johnson



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 9:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Everybody except Randy, it seems... Although, I'm not even sure that he hasn't written the season off, so much as he appears to have some kind of psychological need for the Dream to be good without Angel.

They're not, by the way.



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 10:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They've really not been that bad. In fact the whole starting five seems to have had a decent season: Hayes is having the best statistical season of her career, even efficiency-wise, without Angel to draw defenders; Williams has basically carried on where she left off last year; lots of people are falling in love with Clarendon's development as a point guard (despite the dubious shooting); Sykes is emerging as a RotY candidate; and even Lyttle, while a diminishing presence, hasn't completely fallen off a cliff.

One way or another, I still expect them to finish somewhere around .500, and play at least one playoff game. Without the player who's seemingly carried them for years it's not been a bad season, all in all.



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 11:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

We like Clarendon because the alternative is Ajavon, who has somehow added a new level of terrible to her game, or someone who was unemployed a week ago.

Holmes isn't putting up last year's numbers but isn't playing badly. Her defense has improved mightily.

Atlanta has a lot of interesting pieces.



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 7:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Layshia is shooting 7-45 from 3. If she would just stop shooting 3's her two point FG% would be fine 91/198 - 46%. Since Sykes and Hayes are both shooting 3's in the 36-37% range, and we have Hooper (and since Dantas is going to shoot 3's no matter what), there is no need for Clarendon to be shooting 3's. It is interesting that as her assist numbers have doubled, her shooting has gone down, but mainly due to 3's.

As bad as Clarendon's 3 point shooting, Holmes is even worse: 7-46. With 3 legitimate 3 point threats we really don't need all of this long distance chuckery. But, I suppose it does a fine job of creating OBO's (Offensive Rebound Opportunities.) We may well lead the league in that category.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dream getting Boyette and Young from Chicago. Losing Hooper and their first round pick.

PG: Clarendon/Hopkins
SG: Hayes/Sykes/Ajavon
SF: Young/Holmes
PF: Lyttle/Dantas
C: Williams/Boyette/Morello



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 5:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Dream getting Boyette and Young from Chicago. Losing Hooper and their first round pick.

PG: Clarendon/Hopkins
SG: Hayes/Sykes/Ajavon
SF: Young/Holmes
PF: Lyttle/Dantas
C: Williams/Boyette/Morello


great addition in my opinion need a little boost for a playoff spot


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Unless Boyette decides to spend full time writing poetry, I like this deal too. We can always trade for a late first round pick and find another steal of the draft. Unless we make another deal, draft night won't be much fun though.

Plus, myrtle has to love this one. Young is no longer a starter on the Sky.

I guess this does mean the Dream are in it for the playoffs, not the tank.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

interesting T Young returns to the ream who drafted her


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Silky Johnson wrote:
Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.


I assume she will go back to #11



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When they've already got Hayes/Sykes/Holmes(/McCoughtry), Young seems pretty damn redundant; and unless they find a way to make Boyette/Williams work together, Boyette becomes a 10mpg backup. I don't really get it, and I think they have to love Boyette to make this move (and/or be absolutely desperate to make the playoffs right now).



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.


I assume she will go back to #11

Huh. Don't know why I thought she wore #1 in Atlanta.



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
When they've already got Hayes/Sykes/Holmes(/McCoughtry), Young seems pretty damn redundant; and unless they find a way to make Boyette/Williams work together, Boyette becomes a 10mpg backup. I don't really get it, and I think they have to love Boyette to make this move (and/or be absolutely desperate to make the playoffs right now).


The Boyette from last season is well worth it. I hope that's the one we get.

If Young is not an expiring contract then there probably is some more trading to be done in the off-season.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 6:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

BTW - 4 teams for Hooper in one season, only waived once. Must be some kind of record. She played ok for us, I thought.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 7:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Silky Johnson wrote:
pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.


I assume she will go back to #11

Huh. Don't know why I thought she wore #1 in Atlanta.


She was #23 as a rookie then switched to #11 in her second season. Jia Perkins was wearing #11 for Chicago at the time, so Young switched to #1.



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 7:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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BTW - 4 teams for Hooper in one season, only waived once. Must be some kind of record. She played ok for us, I thought.


Dallas , Conn , ATL , Now Chicago..sucks to be her. I Remember this being Alley Quigleys lifestyle back then now... Exclamation



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 7:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm happy with the trade, but I always wanted Hooper because she could hit the 3, but I guess that's just not enough.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 8:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.


I assume she will go back to #11

But ... the clothing line!?!
I don't want to have to replace all my TY1 gear with TY11 gear!!



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 8:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

animals31089 wrote:
interesting T Young returns to the ream who drafted her


Freudian slip?



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 8:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.


I assume she will go back to #11


I have little recollection of this. Did Delle Donne really bump Young off her number? That might enough to foster a degree of long term resentment.



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Shades wrote:


I have little recollection of this. Did Delle Donne really bump Young off her number?


No


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 9:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
Silky Johnson wrote:
Interested in seeing what number Young will wear, the second go around.


I assume she will go back to #11


I have little recollection of this. Did Delle Donne really bump Young off her number? That might enough to foster a degree of long term resentment.


Jia Perkins had #11 when Young was traded to Chicago so she switched to #1



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 9:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
animals31089 wrote:
interesting T Young returns to the ream who drafted her


Freudian slip?


just take out the 'the'



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 9:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think Atlanta should do everything possible to add Hamby now. That would be perfect!



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PostPosted: 07/31/17 10:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

But myrtle you underestimate Coopers magic touch. We will have Boyette, Young and Hamby all in the running for most improved next year.


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