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PostPosted: 01/31/17 1:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

With the Mercury trade they have a shot at two really good players with the #1 and #5 so maybe giving up DRob will turn out to be worth it. I would assume VJ was OK with the trade or it wouldn't have happened. If they take a PG with the #! and can still get Coates or Jones at #5 they will be about as lucky as you can get


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PostPosted: 01/31/17 3:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Can Harrison play at the PF spot?

Jefferson
McBride/Colson
Currie/Gwathmay(sp)/Montgomery
Hamby/N'Dour
Alexander/Harrison


It depends on who declares but their two picks allow them to go in a lot of different directions.

#1 (Plum, Coates, Deshields, Mitchell)

#5 (B. Jones, A. Jones, SWK, Russell)


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PostPosted: 01/31/17 3:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
Can Harrison play at the PF spot?


I think she'd better suited there than the 5 tbh



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PostPosted: 01/31/17 3:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
Can Harrison play at the PF spot?

Jefferson
McBride/Colson
Currie/Gwathmay(sp)/Montgomery
Hamby/N'Dour
Alexander/Harrison


It depends on who declares but their two picks allow them to go in a lot of different directions.

#1 (Plum, Coates, Deshields, Mitchell)

#5 (B. Jones, A. Jones, SWK, Russell)


Quit throwing Tennessee players into the mix , people have made the forgone conclusion that these gals are going to go pro early but nothing of a zip has been declared by anyone . This draft becomes even weaker if they all stay . Then Who do you got SAN Taking ? I see the Coates & A. Jones combo being a strong one . Although Plum & Jones would definitely win a game of 2 on 2 .



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PostPosted: 01/31/17 5:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Can Harrison play at the PF spot?

Jefferson
McBride/Colson
Currie/Gwathmay(sp)/Montgomery
Hamby/N'Dour
Alexander/Harrison


It depends on who declares but their two picks allow them to go in a lot of different directions.

#1 (Plum, Coates, Deshields, Mitchell)

#5 (B. Jones, A. Jones, SWK, Russell)


Quit throwing Tennessee players into the mix , people have made the forgone conclusion that these gals are going to go pro early but nothing of a zip has been declared by anyone . This draft becomes even weaker if they all stay . Then Who do you got SAN Taking ? I see the Coates & A. Jones combo being a strong one . Although Plum & Jones would definitely win a game of 2 on 2 .


If Everyone stays I would take Plum at #1 and hope B. Jones lasts until #5, if not maybe Coffey? Or look to trade for post. Would Conn want a first round pick bad enough to do Little for #5?


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PostPosted: 01/31/17 5:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Can Harrison play at the PF spot?

Jefferson
McBride/Colson
Currie/Gwathmay(sp)/Montgomery
Hamby/N'Dour
Alexander/Harrison


It depends on who declares but their two picks allow them to go in a lot of different directions.

#1 (Plum, Coates, Deshields, Mitchell)

#5 (B. Jones, A. Jones, SWK, Russell)


Quit throwing Tennessee players into the mix , people have made the forgone conclusion that these gals are going to go pro early but nothing of a zip has been declared by anyone . This draft becomes even weaker if they all stay . Then Who do you got SAN Taking ? I see the Coates & A. Jones combo being a strong one . Although Plum & Jones would definitely win a game of 2 on 2 .


If Everyone stays I would take Plum at #1 and hope B. Jones lasts until #5, if not maybe Coffey? Or look to trade for post. Would Conn want a first round pick bad enough to do Little for #5?


Would you draft Plum #1 to back up McBride?



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PostPosted: 01/31/17 6:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hamby should not be a starter.[period] If she is a starter, this team might as well plan ahead for lottery 2018. Maybe they should anyway. But hopefully Harrison can start there.

At this point Plum is the clear #1. You take best player at #1. Maybe you start her, MoJeff and McBride and bring MoCurrie off the bench. There will be plenty of minutes for all of them. Is McBride back from her injury? Playing overseas?

If neither Coates nor B. Jones are available at 5, I'd be inclined to take Nia Coffey and hope for the best. But I'm guessing one of the bigs will be there. Knight and Gwathmey are excess baggage and can easily go.



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PostPosted: 01/31/17 11:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

IDK if she would like this role but I might experiment with starting Jefferson, Plum and Currie, and bring McBride off the bench basically getting starter minutes backing up all three spots. Plum can slide to the one when Jefferson goes out, with McBride at the 2, McBride can cover Plum at the 2, and when Currie goes out play small ball with McBride at the 3. Pretty much the same role Perkins had when Hammon and Robinson would start. If it doesn't work just bring Plum off the bench at the 1 and the 2 to start.


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PostPosted: 02/01/17 9:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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IDK if she would like this role but I might experiment with starting Jefferson, Plum and Currie, and bring McBride off the bench basically getting starter minutes backing up all three spots. Plum can slide to the one when Jefferson goes out, with McBride at the 2, McBride can cover Plum at the 2, and when Currie goes out play small ball with McBride at the 3. Pretty much the same role Perkins had when Hammon and Robinson would start. If it doesn't work just bring Plum off the bench at the 1 and the 2 to start.


I dont know if that would be effective , McBride is there best Offensive player with or without plum . Maybe The Plum Off the bench to start the season would be a better idea . She will have to adjust to the transition of the play in the W so she wont be as advanced as she is versus the talent in College.



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 9:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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IDK if she would like this role but I might experiment with starting Jefferson, Plum and Currie, and bring McBride off the bench basically getting starter minutes backing up all three spots. Plum can slide to the one when Jefferson goes out, with McBride at the 2, McBride can cover Plum at the 2, and when Currie goes out play small ball with McBride at the 3. Pretty much the same role Perkins had when Hammon and Robinson would start. If it doesn't work just bring Plum off the bench at the 1 and the 2 to start.


Wow, disrespecting McBride in favor of someone who hasn't played a minute in the WNBA? I can't see that.



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 10:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

#5 pick for Dolson makes some sense.


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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dolson is worth more than the 5th pick. A more realistic trade is Dolson and #9 for Hamby and #5. On a side note does anyone think SA will bring back Baugh?



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so Dolson to Chicago for the Delle Donne trade, then possibly traded to San Antonio for ???



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
#5 pick for Dolson makes some sense.


Dolson is worth more then that



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

de Souza signed by San Antonio

http://stars.wnba.com/news/stars-sign-erika-de-souza/

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“Erika gives us size and experience in the post,” said Stars General Manager Ruth Riley. “She is a proven All-Star in our league and we are incredibly excited to have her join us in San Antonio.”



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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de Souza signed by San Antonio

http://stars.wnba.com/news/stars-sign-erika-de-souza/

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“Erika gives us size and experience in the post,” said Stars General Manager Ruth Riley. “She is a proven All-Star in our league and we are incredibly excited to have her join us in San Antonio.”


So Much for the dolson thoughts



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

insurance to help Harrison. I don't think Ndour is returning.

PG: Jefferson/Colson
SG: McBride/Plum
SF: Currie/Montgomery/Gwathmay
PF: Hamby/Peters
C: Alexanders/Harrison/deSouza



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Assuming no players (DeShields, Greenwell, Mitchell, Brown, Russell, etc.), leave early, here are my thoughts...

San Antonio needs offense. The team only averaged 72.0 ppg last year (in part due to McBride's injury, but also because of a lack of offensively talented players). Not only was SAS' scoring last in the WNBA, it was by a mile...the 11th place team in offense, Indiana, scored 80.5 ppg. Coupled with that, San Antonio was 10th in the league in assists last year. And SAS was also near the bottom in FG% and 3ptFG%

The team needs:
1) a guard/wing who can create her own shot, but also be a secondary distributor and also defend;
2) a post presence who can score, defend, and be physical on the glass;
3) time to develop its core going forward (Jefferson, McBride, Hamby); and
4) depth.

1) For the guard/wing position, I am going with Baylor's Alexis Jones. First, she is a combo guard who can be a primary playmaker at an elite level. Second, she knows the perfect balance of scoring and distributing - this year, she is averaging 15.8 ppg and 4.93 apg, while shooting 43.2 percent from the floor and 45.7 percent from three (and making nearly 3 three-point shots per game). Her A/TO is over 2:1. In addition, she is an elite athlete and very good defender.

Also, Jones proved at Duke that she can be a secondary playmaker while playing next to a great point guard/distributor, like she did with Chelsea Gray. She will have that in Moriah Jefferson in San Antonio.

This allows McBride to move to the three. She is a tad undersized for the position at 5-11, but it will benefit her game tremendously. Having to be a #1 or #2 option in San Antonio, without much help, proved difficult last year for her (pre-injury), in terms of constantly having the focus of the opposition's best defender. But having Jefferson/A. Jones/McBride together means there is offensive firepower from all over the floor. Having another perimeter threat will definitely balance out the offense and help her get more open looks, instead of having to create as much as she did.

2) For the post presence, I am going with Maryland's Brionna Jones. First, she is incredibly efficient offensively, averaging 19.4 points on 69.2 percent shooting. She is also shooting over 73 percent from the line, which is quite good for a post player. And she has only turned the ball over 25 times (22 games) all season.

Since Maryland does not play the toughest schedule, I looked at her games against ranked opponents the past two years. Her numbers are remarkable...and UConn fans know how tough she is from last year, putting up 24 points (12-14 shooting) and 7 rebounds against a frontcourt that featured Stewart and Tuck.

And with a lineup of Jefferson, McBride, and (hopefully) A. Jones, she would be the perfect complement because she is not only incredibly efficient offensively and can own the glass defensively, she does not need the ball in her hands to have an impact.

At 6-3, she might be a tad undersized, but she has proven that she can play with bigger players and still be a force.

So the lineup would look like this:

PG: Jefferson
SG/PG: A. Jones
G/W: McBride
F: Hamby
P: B. Jones

All five starters will be under 25 years of age. This is a nice core to have to build for the future.


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PostPosted: 02/01/17 11:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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de Souza signed by San Antonio

http://stars.wnba.com/news/stars-sign-erika-de-souza/

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“Erika gives us size and experience in the post,” said Stars General Manager Ruth Riley. “She is a proven All-Star in our league and we are incredibly excited to have her join us in San Antonio.”


"The Oh Riley Factor" strikes again!



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 1:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RavenDog wrote:
Shades wrote:
de Souza signed by San Antonio

http://stars.wnba.com/news/stars-sign-erika-de-souza/

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“Erika gives us size and experience in the post,” said Stars General Manager Ruth Riley. “She is a proven All-Star in our league and we are incredibly excited to have her join us in San Antonio.”


"The Oh Riley Factor" strikes again!


This is a great signing even though de Souza isn't what she used to be. I'd start her and have Harrison come off the bench. She gives mucho veteran experience in a young starting lineup (aside from Currie). Chicago didn't need de Souza anymore with Dolson and Boyette. Sure looks like Riley is shaping up a pretty good roster. Better than that inept Dan Hughes ever did.


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PostPosted: 02/01/17 1:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Signing deSouza is a big plus I guess but I hope they can get either Coates or Jones as their center for the future of this very young team. SAS is looking like a playoff team this season if VJ can get all the parts working together quickly enough.


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De Souza is coming off of two pretty bad years in Chicago and will be 35 when the season starts. I guess I see why SAS signed her, but I can't imagine she'll do any real good on the team.


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Signing deSouza is a big plus I guess but I hope they can get either Coates or Jones as their center for the future of this very young team. SAS is looking like a playoff team this season if VJ can get all the parts working together quickly enough.


With the declines in the teams like Chi , Indy & ATL . The Stars just might be a playoff team along with the Styx .



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 1:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Signing de Souza is a (hopefully cheap) insurance policy/mentor. I see them drafting a big at #5.



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De Souza is coming off of two pretty bad years in Chicago and will be 35 when the season starts. I guess I see why SAS signed her, but I can't imagine she'll do any real good on the team.


It's always hard to know if the bad years in Chicago were all her fault or (at least partially) the fault of that particular system. I agree with Shades that it's a good insurance move.

I could see them taking Plum and then whichever of the bigs is left at #5.



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PostPosted: 02/01/17 4:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's a great move for a team that isn't trying to win anything next season. She has nothing left to give on the court but will be a good mentor for whichever post player they draft.



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Angus24 wrote:
Signing deSouza is a big plus I guess but I hope they can get either Coates or Jones as their center for the future of this very young team. SAS is looking like a playoff team this season if VJ can get all the parts working together quickly enough.


I have a feeling that San Antonio is going to take Kelsey Plum with their #1. She'll back up Jefferson. Or if DeShields declares, they take her #1. Seems like with the additions of Harrison and de Souza, Coates isn't on their radar.


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WNBA 09 wrote:
Angus24 wrote:
Signing deSouza is a big plus I guess but I hope they can get either Coates or Jones as their center for the future of this very young team. SAS is looking like a playoff team this season if VJ can get all the parts working together quickly enough.


With the declines in the teams like Chi , Indy & ATL . The Stars just might be a playoff team along with the Styx .

.. and the Sun? I hope?


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sigur3 wrote:
It's a great move for a team that isn't trying to win anything next season. She has nothing left to give on the court but will be a good mentor for whichever post player they draft.


X____________ Agreed


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Stars re-signed Kayla Alexander


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Stars re-signed Kayla Alexander


Camp fodder now with Harrison and de Souza already onboard?


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Ay Mate wrote:
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Stars re-signed Kayla Alexander


Camp fodder now with Harrison and de Souza already onboard?


No, I think she's pretty solid on the roster, and that Harrison will be competing more at PF. I see her in the mold of a GloJo.



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I think SAS will be shooting for a playoff spot and I think that will happen. With Alexander returning and maybe Hamby I would still hope they take either Coates or Jones at #5 assuming one or the other is available. I would assume Ruth and VJ see deSouza as starting center and looks like there will be a lot of competition among the other bigs for survival on the roster. What is the scoop on Ndour, she is better than some of the other bigs that SAS has?


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myrtle wrote:
Ay Mate wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Stars re-signed Kayla Alexander


Camp fodder now with Harrison and de Souza already onboard?


No, I think she's pretty solid on the roster, and that Harrison will be competing more at PF. I see her in the mold of a GloJo.

Given how quickly she signed, Alexander likely got a pretty hefty deal as well. Definitely more than camp fodder, and at this point likely a better player than the near-fossilised Erika.



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Nice to see that SAS is keeping their Roster up to date for a change. Now showing 13 players so I guess someone will be leaving and probably 3 of current roster if they get 2 good young players in the draft. I assume VJ will get another assistant so wonder who that might be.


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Ay Mate wrote:
Angus24 wrote:
Signing deSouza is a big plus I guess but I hope they can get either Coates or Jones as their center for the future of this very young team. SAS is looking like a playoff team this season if VJ can get all the parts working together quickly enough.


I have a feeling that San Antonio is going to take Kelsey Plum with their #1. She'll back up Jefferson. Or if DeShields declares, they take her #1. Seems like with the additions of Harrison and de Souza, Coates isn't on their radar.


I don't think Coates will be around for #5 as it now stands (with no declarations.) Also, with Currie possibly leaving a 3 will be needed too. I believe Briona Jones will be there at #5 should SAS go big. I like Briona but if she is only 6'2" instead of 6'3" which I suspect, that is something to consider.
I'm guessing Plum, SWK, Coates and A. Jones goes in the first 4.

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I think this team should invite Kelsey Griffin to camp. They could use a hard working hardnosed player to compete with Hamby at PF. It looks like they'll be getting another guard and a big post in the draft, which will leave them with lots of fives, but not much at the four unless Izzi works out there.



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Moriah Jefferson in new Adidas Commercial

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Stars have acquired center Clarissa Dos Santos from the Chicago Sky in exchange for center Astou Ndour.



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They seem to be overloaded with not-so great posts especially if they intend to continue to play Hamby as a 4 (seven of 'em if you include Peters as well), meanwhile they have only MoJeff and McBride as quality guards. Just looking at this roster though, sure looks like they intend to go with Plum at #1.



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Stars have acquired center Clarissa Dos Santos from the Chicago Sky in exchange for center Astou Ndour.


I wonder if this is due to Dos Santos wanting to play with DeSouza. Also, Ndour's not a center.



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sure looks like they intend to go with Plum at #1.


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SA can still take whoever declares or Plum at #1, heck that player can still even start. Between Deshields and McBride one can play at the SF spot, and yes you might be a little small but Plum or Mitchell can play the 2 with Jefferson at the 1. Might not be the best for defense, but on offense you have Jefferson, with Mitchell or Plum and McBride, you have to guard all three, any of them can launch from 3 and any of them can breakdown their defender, and at 5 you could grab another shooter in SWK or a tougher wing like Coffey. In the grand scheme I think N'Dour for Dos Santos isn't a bad move it might be lateral, but change of scenery can always be good. Hamby might real have to focus on moving to the 3 full-time.

Jefferson/Colson
#1 Mitchell, Deshields or Plum/Currie (will end up at the SF spot when she is in)
McBride/Hamby/Gwazmay
Harrison/Dos Santos/Peters
Alexander/De Souza

and someone on the perimeter loses a spot to #5 (SWK, A. Jones, Coffey) or someone in the post (B. Jones, Coates).


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PostPosted: 02/28/17 2:19 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Also, Ndour's not a center.

Plays there plenty in Europe. Has the height and length for it. Bulk/strength is an issue at WNBA level (as, inevitably, is showing up). I'd call Ndour more of a 5 than Hamby is a 3.

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They seem to be overloaded with not-so great posts especially if they intend to continue to play Hamby as a 4 (seven of 'em if you include Peters as well), meanwhile they have only MoJeff and McBride as quality guards. Just looking at this roster though, sure looks like they intend to go with Plum at #1.

It's like they're going with the "at least one of them has to be decent on any given night if we accumulate 100, right?" policy



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J-Spoon wrote:

Jefferson/Colson
#1 Mitchell, Deshields or Plum/Currie (will end up at the SF spot when she is in)
McBride/Hamby/Gwazmay
Harrison/Dos Santos/Peters
Alexander/De Souza


Hamby is more of a PF than Peters, as far as how they were used last year. I think Peters or Gwathmey may be on the outside looking in since they're overloaded at the SF position. I suppose Gwathmey could be used as a SG, so maybe she has the edge.

I still think Currie to the Liberty for one of their overflows at SG might be doable, but maybe they want Currie as a mentor to all these greenhorns.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
Stars have acquired center Clarissa Dos Santos from the Chicago Sky in exchange for center Astou Ndour.


Is Clarissa related to former Orlando Miracle player Cintia Dos Santos?



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Is Dos Santos actually a center? SAS roster lists her at 6' 1" which seems not good unless she is a fantastic natural reebounder and can really move people around.


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Stars sign Roneeka Hodges to a training camp contract


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Angus24 wrote:
Is Dos Santos actually a center? SAS roster lists her at 6' 1" which seems not good unless she is a fantastic natural reebounder and can really move people around.


She has the low post game of a center but doesnt have the height for it.



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PostPosted: 03/01/17 4:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

She's better suited as a center, though she's undersized. Her offensive game isn't good enough to be a 4. Also, she's strong as a tank



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