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PostPosted: 05/31/17 6:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I had a weird dream that Nia Coffey was traded Shocked

To Washington?
I had a weird dream that they acquired Nia Covfefe



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PostPosted: 05/31/17 6:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
I had a weird dream that Nia Coffey was traded Shocked

To Washington?
I had a weird dream that they acquired Nia Covfefe


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Calling it now. Best joke anyone will make in reference to that Trump tweet. Good one Luuuc.



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https://twitter.com/SAStars/status/868844336321929216

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The Mo and Lo Show
Episode 2 | The Plumbers

1:15 | Mo Introduces Kelsey Plum
4:52 | Should college athletes be paid?
8:20 | Who is the most competitive San Antonio Star
10:20 | Trash Talk
17:40 | Mentally you like to snack?
20:30 | The Plumbers


LOL the "Plumbers." Her nickname is actually "Plummer," but yeah I guess it sounds the same. Can't wait to see the Stars fans waving around plungers and plums. Laughing

I Rolling Eyes at the introduction and said, "Plum's got to correct that shit." It's the University of Washington--Washington or "U-Dub" is acceptable. The school named Washington University is in St. Louis.

Also, Jewell is the Gold Mamba. Fun episode, though.


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PostPosted: 06/04/17 10:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Erika DeSouza engaged

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Good for her! Congratulations!!


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The 2017 San Antonio Stars are on track to set the WNBA record for worst won/loss in a season. The two teams who are down at the bottom of the won/loss list, have special circumstances related to their talent deficiency, but I don't think there is a special circumstance with regard to the Stars.


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PostPosted: 06/28/17 5:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So the Stars now have:

PG: Jefferson/Plum/Colson
SG: McBride/Murphy
SF: Montgomery/Coffey/Brunner
PF: Harrison/Hamby
C: DeSouza/Alexander

What an ugly roster. Stars just got worse. That 0-34 record seems more likely now.



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Plum might see more minutes now. Lets Keep an 👁 on that ATO #LadyPlumvsLadyBumBump Laughing



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PostPosted: 06/28/17 9:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think it was an awful trade. San Antonio got something for Currie, and it may create a chance for the young players to play through their mistakes. What's going to happen? Is San Antonio going to get worst?



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PostPosted: 06/28/17 10:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The 2017 San Antonio Stars are on track to set the WNBA record for worst won/loss in a season. The two teams who are down at the bottom of the won/loss list, have special circumstances related to their talent deficiency, but I don't think there is a special circumstance with regard to the Stars.


Kept Hughes way too long?


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hey, at least the sa stars didn't pick up dead weight players like carolyn sword!



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Bnot Maccabi Ramat Gan sign Nia Coffey.



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Bnot Maccabi Ramat Gan sign Nia Coffey.


For a second i thought u were trying to say the cut Grievance in a foreign language !! #MyGirl Cool



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Bnot Maccabi Ramat Gan sign Nia Coffey.


For a second i thought u were trying to say the cut Grievance in a foreign language !! #MyGirl Cool


I presume Grievance is still safe hiding somewhere in the depths of the locker room, since she's never been cut.



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Stars Waive Sophie Brunner


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Stars Waive Sophie Brunner


oh well least she had a little time in wnba


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PostPosted: 07/08/17 9:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Shades wrote:
Bnot Maccabi Ramat Gan sign Nia Coffey.


For a second i thought u were trying to say the cut Grievance in a foreign language !! #MyGirl Cool


I presume Grievance is still safe hiding somewhere in the depths of the locker room, since she's never been cut.


They have to keep her around; it's a union thing.



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The San Antonio Stars are not very good, so free Coffey?

https://www.insidenu.com/2017/7/10/15930192/nia-coffey-wnba-update-2017-san-antonio-stars

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pilight wrote:
The San Antonio Stars are not very good, so free Coffey?

https://www.insidenu.com/2017/7/10/15930192/nia-coffey-wnba-update-2017-san-antonio-stars

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Um, trust the process, I guess

Free Coffey might be just the incentive needed to get more than 260 fans in the stands



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It must always suck to be drafted by the shitty team.



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Luuuc wrote:
pilight wrote:
The San Antonio Stars are not very good, so free Coffey?

https://www.insidenu.com/2017/7/10/15930192/nia-coffey-wnba-update-2017-san-antonio-stars

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Um, trust the process, I guess

Free Coffey might be just the incentive needed to get more than 260 fans in the stands


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It must always suck to be drafted by the shitty team.

The opposite side is that usually it means you get to play more. Coffey's had the worst of both worlds so far (and without looking quite as wildly out of her depth as Akhator has in her few minutes).



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Stars sign Sequoia Holmes for rest of the season


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Stars sign Sequoia Holmes for rest of the season


So Brunner wasn't ever meant to stay on the roster via the Currie trade.



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Stars sign Sequoia Holmes for rest of the season

I don't understand why you waste the roster spot you opened up by signing Holmes for the whole season, rather than using if for 7-day deals to see what surprises you might be able to find among players off the street. 31-year old journeywoman Sequoia Holmes isn't going to be a meaningful part of the Stars' future.



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Isabelle Harrison Mended and Playing Well for San Antonio

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Against the Fever, the affable 6 foot, 3 inch center ran the floor like a thoroughbred, jumped like a spry kangaroo for rebounds, deftly finished around the basket, and stepped into passing lanes like a thief. Her relentless activity gave the Fever fits and created mismatches throughout the game.



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It's interesting watching this team. On a team like this I sometimes like to just watch one player and the dynamic around that player. It appears some of them are willing to play with Plum and some of them do whatever they can to sabotage her. By that, I mean things like not trying to come meet the ball on passes; not giving her any movement/help when she is trapped; not passing her the ball when she's wide open...lots of little things. I understand that rookies have to 'earn' their trust, but some of this stuff seems excessive. Mostly I see it from the other guards, whereas the posts for the most part seem willing to play with her.

Izzi is fun to watch - lots of effort and energy and decent results too.



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The Mercury really missed the boat when they traded Harrison., She is just what the Stars need in a Post player. Sure hope she doesn't get injured again.


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The Mercury really missed the boat when they traded Harrison., She is just what the Stars need in a Post player. Sure hope she doesn't get injured again.

Had to give up something if they wanted to acquire Danielle Robinson.



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for some reason im still feeling bad for lady plum . She barely gets any time even with injuries and gets two brief stints to shine and scores 11 pts within about 1 min 30 secs remaining . Its very frustrating for her im sure because its becoming frustrating for me i want to see her play 20+ mins hell its not like your going to win anything this year regardless VJ Rolling Eyes



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https://twitter.com/DishNSwish/status/886942620798398466


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Seems here biggest concern is that none of her players get cut when they go overseas......


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Seems here biggest concern is that none of her players get cut when they go overseas......


She sound's like she's the most clueless wnba coach I've ever seen in my life.

I think she should be fired immediately. Who are their assistants? Promote one of them to interim head coach and starting headhunting for a new coach now. VJ, good player... VJ, pile of shit head coach.


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I suspect that they would have hired someone else, but decided they didn't like the pool of candidates and are waiting for someone to get fired and pick them up next year.


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I suspect that they would have hired someone else, but decided they didn't like the pool of candidates and are waiting for someone to get fired and pick them up next year.


I'd even bring Dan Hughes back at this point Laughing


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Randy wrote:
I suspect that they would have hired someone else, but decided they didn't like the pool of candidates and are waiting for someone to get fired and pick them up next year.


I'd even bring Dan Hughes back at this point Laughing


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Looking at the Stat sheet it would seem like VJ is finally making winning games more of a priority but I am totally baffled by her handling of de Souza. 8 minutes after 24 minutes and 14 points in the previous game. I got the impression from her responses in that podcast that it is all about defense, if a player misses an assignment they are pulled immediately. I don't know how she became an expert on overseas play. I can't remember her playing overseas with any of the top teams. I think maybe she gets her emphasis on defense from her days in NY and coach Adubato. He assumed the team would score enough points so the key to success was limiting the scoring of the other team.


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Seems her biggest concern is that none of her players get cut when they go overseas......


They can be humiliated in front of their friends and family, but as long as they don't get cut overseas, everything's okay.

I kinda feel for her. You're a coach who lives by defense, and you're expected to build a team on has-been free agents and rookies and the desolate roster Hughes left her? Rookies hate defense, especially at the WNBA level. That's why coaches that emphasize defense don't love rookies: Agler, Reeve, maybe Laimbeer.

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wow. interesting. That felt pretty hostile...like 'I'm tired of being asked these questions. It's my way or the highway.' And she didn't actually answer the question of why not Plum-MoJeff-McBride.



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I am starting to think VJ learned how to make friends and influence people from Adubato, how to coach from Coyle, and how to make player moves from Hughes.

These are not the particular lessons I would have taken from these particular people.



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So what's the path forward for the Stars?

Vickie Johnson may not be the solution, but she's not the real problem either -- there just aren't that many good players on this roster, at least in terms of competing for the top third of the standings.

Jefferson appears to be a decent starter at point, though obviously undersized. On the right team, she'd be fine.

McBride is a volume shooter with a low percentage who doesn't defend well.

Plum may turn into a rotation player/fifth starter (it's a shame the draft was so weak that she was the overall No. 1 -- it's not her fault that the expectations were too high).

Harrison is an undersized post who, like Jefferson, could be a solid contributor with the right people around her.

Hamby and Montgomery are bench pieces, at best, and Alexander might be a half-step better.

Currie is past her prime.

Etc.

So what is the plan? Given that this roster is the worst in the league, is there any reasonable hope for improvement in the next two or three years? Or is this going to be long run of mediocrity (in good years) until SA gets lucky and finds three elite players?



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Currie is past her prime.


This is a double whammy for you. Not only is she no longer with SAN, she's a big reason why PHX hasn't completely collapsed without Griner.

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Currie is past her prime.


This is a double whammy for you. Not only is she no longer with SAN, she's a big reason why PHX hasn't completely collapsed without Griner.

I might dissect the rest of your post later.


Ditto shes found her groove in PHX finally. The rest is just a mess , This team needs a new everything.



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You don't need 5 superstars to have a very good team if you have really good team chemistry. It seems to me that team chemistry is a foreign concept with VJ. I have seen a number of examples in high school basketball over the years where a team with less talented players but really good chemistry would be the winner. I remember one in particular where a team from a small town had 5 or 6 players who had played together since grade school and knew what to expect from each of the other players. In the state tournament they took out the big teams from the big cities one after another to win the state championship.


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It's all a cycle. They're like an expansion team. And yeah, it will take a few lottery picks to get better. A'ja Wilson will be a big step in that direction if they get her. Unfortunately she has always wanted to play out from the basket never wants to be a center... The four is where they already have a decent player in Izzy. Izzy is willing to play the center but is too undersized.

McBride is interesting. She forces it too often. But it's hard to blame her for shooting since she is their best player. I thought they played better team ball without her though so maybe some adjustment needs to be made. I don't know team dynamics but she always looks grumpy. Of course when you lose all the time it's hard to stay upbeat and maybe that's just her normal demeanor.

Not sure why they moved Mo when they did and got nothing in return. I love Eshaya but really, they couldn't get mo for Mo? I guess she will be a FA at the end of the year and they assumed she would be gone then. Or maybe there was a lockerroom issue. But I would have thought they could at least get a 2nd round pick next year, which might possibly... remotely be of some use along with Murphy or something better elsewhere. NY could certainly have used Mo this year. If that's the best they can do it doesn't bode well for them moving any of their other so-so players.

I've tried to stay away from criticizing Hamby but really she should be the 11th or 12th player on the bench. She brings 'energy' but little else. And VJ playing so many minutes with her and Izzy as the posts is just sad.



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So what's the path forward for the Stars?

Vickie Johnson may not be the solution, but she's not the real problem either -- there just aren't that many good players on this roster, at least in terms of competing for the top third of the standings.

Jefferson appears to be a decent starter at point, though obviously undersized. On the right team, she'd be fine.

McBride is a volume shooter with a low percentage who doesn't defend well.

Plum may turn into a rotation player/fifth starter (it's a shame the draft was so weak that she was the overall No. 1 -- it's not her fault that the expectations were too high).

Harrison is an undersized post who, like Jefferson, could be a solid contributor with the right people around her.

Hamby and Montgomery are bench pieces, at best, and Alexander might be a half-step better.

Currie is past her prime.

Etc.

So what is the plan? Given that this roster is the worst in the league, is there any reasonable hope for improvement in the next two or three years? Or is this going to be long run of mediocrity (in good years) until SA gets lucky and finds three elite players?


Get the #1 pick and draft Wilson

Break up The Plum/Jefferson back-court by trading one for a decent wing or post, or a pick that could be turned into a decent wing or post.

Jefferson or Plum (if she finishes strong) to Seattle for their pick (Seattle would have to move up into the playoffs for this to be a little more likely to happen a lottery pick this draft might be untouchable SA can always throw in their 2nd round #13 pick if it sweetens the eal there will still be player in this draft at #13 who will make teams and have an impact, maybe not starters but still some good talent. If SA with their two first rounders could add like Wilson and a forgotten about Deshields who falls to #4 through 6, or a G. Williams or K. Mitchell who ends up in that range because of an early entry or two or questions about their size that would be a big help).

Jefferson or Plum to Washington for their pick (Washington's pick will be in the 8-12 range a little more attainable and someone liked Nared or Billings or Vivians, or Greenwell or Nurse will still be on the board they all would be a better fit with the remaining Stars after the trade.)

Then maybe try to add a UFA vet who can help change the culture a little bit. Someone who can do what T. Wright did for the Liberty or what Beard and Carson added to LA. SA can afford a max contract for that type of player.

SA has some work to do but I think their is a little hope. Wilson will have to be the real deal though, she'll need to have a first year impact like the Ogwumike's or Charles, she can't come in and struggle to adjust. And of course if SA ends up at 2 or 3 they will have some real decisions to make. Can Deshields save them? Is G. Williams more of the right fit? if K. Mitchell takes afew step forward to the start ovr with her as the focus of the offense? If so what do you do with McBride and Plum? etc


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Brain lock on Currie, my apologies ...

I'm not saying you need five superstars to play well, or even five stars. But the San Antonio roster at present has no stars (unless you buy into McBride as underachieving), and even A'ja Wilson is at best one star -- and that's only if SA wins the lottery. And Wilson doesn't appear to be a player who will immediately be all-WNBA.

I don't believe in DeShields (a slightly better Kaela Davis, most likely), Kelsey Mitchell is more of what they already have, so I don't see a difference-maker available to SA in the short run, and again, given the present roster, there seems to be little hope for a great leap forward -- or even a bunny hop.

And what's sad is that it could be a good franchise, it seems. The Spurs support the team, it appears, and the fans come out when the team wins and it plays in the main arena.



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J-Spoon wrote:


Break up The Plum/Jefferson back-court by trading one for a decent wing or post, or a pick that could be turned into a decent wing or post.

Jefferson or Plum (if she finishes strong) to Seattle for their pick (Seattle would have to move up into the playoffs for this to be a little more likely to happen a lottery pick this draft might be untouchable).

Jefferson or Plum to Washington for their pick (Washington's pick will be in the 8-12 range a little more attainable and someone liked Nared or Billings or Vivians, or Greenwell or Nurse will still be on the board they all would be a better fit with the remaining Stars after the trade.)

Then maybe try to add a UFA vet who can help change the culture a little bit. Someone who can do what T. Wright did for the Liberty or what Beard and Carson added to LA. SA can afford a max contract for that type of player.



At this point MoJeff (remember she was essentially a #1 pick as well - just that her draft year had Stewie and Plum's had no Stewie) has more value as a known quantity based on what she did last year. Of course there is now the injury question, but still I think she has more value as a trade asset...
Without fussing with picks since I think it's going to be hard to wrench away any but the worst picks next year:
Plum to Seattle for Clark and Swords.
MoJeff to WA for Meeseman



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ClayK wrote:
So what's the path forward for the Stars?

Vickie Johnson may not be the solution, but she's not the real problem either -- there just aren't that many good players on this roster, at least in terms of competing for the top third of the standings.

Jefferson appears to be a decent starter at point, though obviously undersized. On the right team, she'd be fine.

McBride is a volume shooter with a low percentage who doesn't defend well.

Plum may turn into a rotation player/fifth starter (it's a shame the draft was so weak that she was the overall No. 1 -- it's not her fault that the expectations were too high).

Harrison is an undersized post who, like Jefferson, could be a solid contributor with the right people around her.

Hamby and Montgomery are bench pieces, at best, and Alexander might be a half-step better.

Currie is past her prime.

Etc.

So what is the plan? Given that this roster is the worst in the league, is there any reasonable hope for improvement in the next two or three years? Or is this going to be long run of mediocrity (in good years) until SA gets lucky and finds three elite players?


Get the #1 pick and draft Wilson

Break up The Plum/Jefferson back-court by trading one for a decent wing or post, or a pick that could be turned into a decent wing or post.

Jefferson or Plum (if she finishes strong) to Seattle for their pick (Seattle would have to move up into the playoffs for this to be a little more likely to happen a lottery pick this draft might be untouchable SA can always throw in their 2nd round #13 pick if it sweetens the eal there will still be player in this draft at #13 who will make teams and have an impact, maybe not starters but still some good talent. If SA with their two first rounders could add like Wilson and a forgotten about Deshields who falls to #4 through 6, or a G. Williams or K. Mitchell who ends up in that range because of an early entry or two or questions about their size that would be a big help).

Jefferson or Plum to Washington for their pick (Washington's pick will be in the 8-12 range a little more attainable and someone liked Nared or Billings or Vivians, or Greenwell or Nurse will still be on the board they all would be a better fit with the remaining Stars after the trade.)

Then maybe try to add a UFA vet who can help change the culture a little bit. Someone who can do what T. Wright did for the Liberty or what Beard and Carson added to LA. SA can afford a max contract for that type of player.

SA has some work to do but I think their is a little hope. Wilson will have to be the real deal though, she'll need to have a first year impact like the Ogwumike's or Charles, she can't come in and struggle to adjust. And of course if SA ends up at 2 or 3 they will have some real decisions to make. Can Deshields save them? Is G. Williams more of the right fit? if K. Mitchell takes afew step forward to the start ovr with her as the focus of the offense? If so what do you do with McBride and Plum? etc



I love your assesment , but they still have to get the #1 pick first and i dont believe ANYone will forget about Diamond deshields next year in the draft. Im predicting her at #2 behind Aja .



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