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Kelsey Plum, a bust or too early? |
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toad455
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Posted: 06/18/17 9:44 pm ::: Kelsey Plum |
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11 games in, is she a bust? Or is she still not 100%? Or would she be better on a different team?
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sigur3
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Posted: 06/18/17 9:59 pm ::: |
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PickledGinger
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Posted: 06/18/17 11:23 pm ::: |
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I think she's a rookie point guard coming into a system unlike anything she's ever played in before. Most point guards need at least 3 seasons to acclimate to the WNBA.
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Michelle89
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 06/19/17 3:47 am ::: |
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Seattle's first round pick in 18 for Plum.
I know it is a big risk for Seattle Plum is struggling ATM but Plum being mentored by Bird would be the perfect situation for her, eventually becoming the future PG of the Storm. If she isn't a bust and her shot starts falling Plum is a great compliment to the young core of Loyd and Stewart. Seattle is one of the more popular teams in the league and Plum could even increase their box office. 2018 is deep but Seattle is probably going to be in the top 5 this year so the pick is 8-12 there will be some good player still available even if the likes of Collier and Stevens don't declare but if Seattle thinks Plum is still far from her potential than maybe they roll the dice. They've been looking for the heir apparent to Bird for a while and until she got to SA Plum was looking like the player they have been waiting for. And if worst came to worst and the move blew up in the Storms face they still have a great duo and a good team that could attract free agents for their Championship push that is probably coming in the next few seasons. One wasted draft pick won't derail them too much.
It might be dangerous for SA to move on so quickly form a #1 pick that might even be hurt, (the last thing SA would need is to have Plum coming to SA in 2019 with Loyd and Stewart and be killing it as a integral part of one of the top teams in the league) but a second first round pick even in the late half of a deep draft to pair ideally with their #1 pick could be a good move (Imagine they have #1 and #8 and add say Wilson and Nurse or Wilson and Billings, or Wilson and Nared, or Wilson and Russell, or Wilson and L. Brown or Vivians. Wouldn't that be a more well balance team that what they have now?) If not they need to figure out some way to make the Jefferson, Plum and McBride combo work which probably still entails trading someone down the road.
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Rock Hard
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Posted: 06/19/17 9:16 am ::: |
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 06/19/17 9:17 am ::: |
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Plum for Clark & 18' 1st rounder
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threadkiller1201
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Posted: 06/19/17 12:07 pm ::: |
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I voted "too soon to tell" because I think she's playing hurt.
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BoredyMcbored
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Posted: 06/19/17 12:27 pm ::: |
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WNBA 09 wrote: |
Plum for Clark & 18' 1st rounder |
But Lysh is super important to their team IMO. She's a great defender that can create her shot in the post and will always hustle. She does the dirty work for their team. I think that she's the type of player Seattle will need for a deep playoff run and if they want to win a championship.
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RavenDog
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Posted: 06/19/17 12:38 pm ::: |
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She should have gone to a college where she would have learned how to actually play the PG position and how to defend, i.e.,Saniya Chong. Plum is definitely not WNBA ready but she may become so, i.e., Becky Hammon.
Although, VJ is starting Plum to give her the best experience she can give her, there's no way she's anywhere near Jefferson - but she's getting the opportunity to learn and grow.
My hat's off to VJ and Moriah for working together in trying to get Plum ready.
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WNBA 09
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BoredyMcbored
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 06/19/17 2:25 pm ::: |
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I'm always amazed at how quick some fans are to declare someone "a bust." She's played all of 11 WNBA games. Do we need to list lots of examples of players that took time to develop?
Could Kelsey Plum prove to be a bust? Of course. But I find the posing of this question so soon--whether for Plum or any other player--to be useless.
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LibFan25
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Posted: 06/19/17 2:32 pm ::: |
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J-Spoon wrote: |
Seattle's first round pick in 18 for Plum.
I know it is a big risk for Seattle Plum is struggling ATM but Plum being mentored by Bird would be the perfect situation for her, eventually becoming the future PG of the Storm. If she isn't a bust and her shot starts falling Plum is a great compliment to the young core of Loyd and Stewart. Seattle is one of the more popular teams in the league and Plum could even increase their box office. 2018 is deep but Seattle is probably going to be in the top 5 this year so the pick is 8-12 there will be some good player still available even if the likes of Collier and Stevens don't declare but if Seattle thinks Plum is still far from her potential than maybe they roll the dice. They've been looking for the heir apparent to Bird for a while and until she got to SA Plum was looking like the player they have been waiting for. And if worst came to worst and the move blew up in the Storms face they still have a great duo and a good team that could attract free agents for their Championship push that is probably coming in the next few seasons. One wasted draft pick won't derail them too much.
It might be dangerous for SA to move on so quickly form a #1 pick that might even be hurt, (the last thing SA would need is to have Plum coming to SA in 2019 with Loyd and Stewart and be killing it as a integral part of one of the top teams in the league) but a second first round pick even in the late half of a deep draft to pair ideally with their #1 pick could be a good move (Imagine they have #1 and #8 and add say Wilson and Nurse or Wilson and Billings, or Wilson and Nared, or Wilson and Russell, or Wilson and L. Brown or Vivians. Wouldn't that be a more well balance team that what they have now?) If not they need to figure out some way to make the Jefferson, Plum and McBride combo work which probably still entails trading someone down the road. |
A combo of Wilson and Billings would be pretty nice, or draft the top SF Deshields wit the #1 pick and Billings. Billings is 6'4 super athletic like Gabby Williams.
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SDHoops
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sigur3
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Posted: 06/19/17 3:18 pm ::: |
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Bob Lamm wrote: |
Could Kelsey Plum prove to be a bust? Of course. But I find the posing of this question so soon--whether for Plum or any other player--to be useless. |
+1000000000
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Michelle89
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PUmatty
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Posted: 06/19/17 4:46 pm ::: |
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How does that picture tell you that? Vandersloot is slouching to the side while Plum is standing straight up. I am always dubious of this kind of height investigation, but if anything that picture shows that Vandersloot is taller.
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Shades
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tfan
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WNBA 09
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Michelle89
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toad455
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Posted: 06/21/17 8:47 am ::: |
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Seattle does need to start thinking about who'll replace Bird in the next few years. Why not make a move to bring in Plum? Unless the Storm want to transition Loyd into a PG?
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