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PostPosted: 05/07/17 9:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Chong > Bias


I hope your right tbh. Chong < Bias , But with the extension given and with chong missing the opportunity to showcase her talents one last time last night could end up hurting her. I hope not but its Fred & Bibb ive learned to expect anything.



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PostPosted: 05/07/17 10:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Letting Chong go to her graduation could be a sign that her spot is secure, as was the case for Secret Weapon when she went to the Duke commencement in 2014. It would be easier to cut them and not have them come back.



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PostPosted: 05/07/17 4:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Letting Chong go to her graduation could be a sign that her spot is secure.


Or it could be a sign of the opposite.

It's highly risky for any job applicant to skip a key interview -- like a preseason game -- especially when it's a job she's been dreaming about and competing for her whole life. If she's rational, such an applicant should only skip such a thing if she's sure she has the job or sure she doesn't.

Somehow I doubt that the Wings would have assured Chong that she already had made the final cuts, but I suppose anything's possible.

More noncommittally, she could have been told that missing the game and attending graduation wouldn't affect her roster chances either way. My life experience counsels not to believe such statement when there's vigorous, close competition for a job, and I would interpret any such statement by an employer as portending a negative outcome for my job chances.
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PostPosted: 05/07/17 5:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Shades wrote:
Letting Chong go to her graduation could be a sign that her spot is secure.


Or it could be a sign of the opposite.

It's highly risky for any job applicant to skip a key interview -- like a preseason game -- especially when it's a job she's been dreaming about and competing for her whole life. If she's rational, such an applicant should only skip such a thing if she's sure she has the job or sure she doesn't.

Somehow I doubt that the Wings would have assured Chong that she already had made the final cuts, but I suppose anything's possible.

More noncommittally, she could have been told that missing the game and attending graduation wouldn't affect her roster chances either way. My life experience counsels not to believe such statement when there's vigorous, close competition for a job, and I would interpret any such statement by an employer as portending a negative outcome for my job chances.


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PostPosted: 05/07/17 7:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They've seen her plenty over the past two weeks and in the other game. Doubt one more game is going to make or break her career. Had she played Bias might have played fewer minutes and not had enough time to go 1-7 and make 3 turnovers (albeit with 5 assists).


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GlennMacGrady wrote:
Shades wrote:
Letting Chong go to her graduation could be a sign that her spot is secure.


Or it could be a sign of the opposite.

It's highly risky for any job applicant to skip a key interview -- like a preseason game -- especially when it's a job she's been dreaming about and competing for her whole life. If she's rational, such an applicant should only skip such a thing if she's sure she has the job or sure she doesn't.

Somehow I doubt that the Wings would have assured Chong that she already had made the final cuts, but I suppose anything's possible.

More noncommittally, she could have been told that missing the game and attending graduation wouldn't affect her roster chances either way. My life experience counsels not to believe such statement when there's vigorous, close competition for a job, and I would interpret any such statement by an employer as portending a negative outcome for my job chances.


More simply, "maybe not." Laughing



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Id hope chong sticks , im just not sold on bias . Watching the game Saturday night i was suprised she ended up with 5 assists and only 3 turnovers . From the eye test one would have thought the opposite . Skylar seems invested on mentoring her and stepping into conversations between her and Fred so it seems up in the air as to if she were to get cut. I wouldn't mind though



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PostPosted: 05/08/17 4:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


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PostPosted: 05/08/17 4:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


kind of suprised and not since they have the draft picks now


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lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


kind of suprised and not since they have the draft picks now


not suprised with the Bias move , but Poor hooper...awee im going to miss hearing the crowd scream "HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPERR for 3 !! " Embarassed



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1 more cut to go i believe ....



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BOOYAH!



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PostPosted: 05/08/17 5:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.


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PostPosted: 05/08/17 5:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

lol Bias got cut before Chong? yikes


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zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


The same pedigree as Ketia Swanier?


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WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


damn i know Bias soul gotta be hurting right now, hopefully someone gives her another shot


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PostPosted: 05/08/17 5:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


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zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


Judging bias off a half a season and a few pre season games. Our team pooked abissmal with biased running the point last game . albeit 5 assists she had 3 turnovers in which should have been about 9 with the loose balls and weird passes she through. She didnt do herself any favors is all im saying. And the pedigree of Sue bird , moriah Jefferson , renee montgomery to name a few and im not even a uconn fan Rolling Eyes



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WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


Judging bias off a half a season and a few pre season games. Our team pooked abissmal with biased running the point last game . albeit 5 assists she had 3 turnovers in which should have been about 9 with the loose balls and weird passes she through. She didnt do herself any favors is all im saying. And the pedigree of Sue bird , moriah Jefferson , renee montgomery to name a few and im not even a uconn fan Rolling Eyes


Not quite sure what you mean.


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zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


Judging bias off a half a season and a few pre season games. Our team pooked abissmal with biased running the point last game . albeit 5 assists she had 3 turnovers in which should have been about 9 with the loose balls and weird passes she through. She didnt do herself any favors is all im saying. And the pedigree of Sue bird , moriah Jefferson , renee montgomery to name a few and im not even a uconn fan Rolling Eyes


Not quite sure what you mean.


He means that she is from UConn. They have a pretty good track record of developing players and getting them ready for the WNBA. And I'm not a UConn fan either. Are you intentionally being obtuse? If you disagree with his assessment, then state it, but don't act like you have no idea what he's talking about.


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Fighting Artichoke wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


Judging bias off a half a season and a few pre season games. Our team pooked abissmal with biased running the point last game . albeit 5 assists she had 3 turnovers in which should have been about 9 with the loose balls and weird passes she through. She didnt do herself any favors is all im saying. And the pedigree of Sue bird , moriah Jefferson , renee montgomery to name a few and im not even a uconn fan Rolling Eyes


Not quite sure what you mean.


He means that she is from UConn. They have a pretty good track record of developing players and getting them ready for the WNBA. And I'm not a UConn fan either. Are you intentionally being obtuse? If you disagree with his assessment, then state it, but don't act like you have no idea what he's talking about.


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PostPosted: 05/08/17 6:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yes! Lines right up with my opening day practice assessment of these 2 were. Send plaisance packing and let's get this season going.


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Hmm not the typical path of a Uconn player it seems as she barely played for 3 years and well then there was the final four game Wink

Dallas could be a hot mess or teams will take some time to scout their bad habits.


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Yes! Lines right up with my opening day practice assessment of these 2 were. Send Plaisance packing and let's get this season going.


Plaisance is needed for 5 posts



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Chong is in! She made the team. Bias waived. Go Fab 5! Very Happy



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Yaaassss. The 2 people I wanted gone are outta there! I feel terrible for being satisfied about someone losing their job, but man were they both a waste of roster space.

I'm assuming that the last space is reserved for either Lewis or Thorton. I was initially rooting for Thorton, but looking at our roster, we're kind of small, so they might keep Lewis because of her size.


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Fighting Artichoke wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


Judging bias off a half a season and a few pre season games. Our team pooked abissmal with biased running the point last game . albeit 5 assists she had 3 turnovers in which should have been about 9 with the loose balls and weird passes she through. She didnt do herself any favors is all im saying. And the pedigree of Sue bird , moriah Jefferson , renee montgomery to name a few and im not even a uconn fan Rolling Eyes


Not quite sure what you mean.


He means that she is from UConn. They have a pretty good track record of developing players and getting them ready for the WNBA. And I'm not a UConn fan either. Are you intentionally being obtuse? If you disagree with his assessment, then state it, but don't act like you have no idea what he's talking about.


So you're saying that just because she's from UConn it means she's going to be a good WNBA player? Why isn't Tierney Lawlor on a team?


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someone is just getting peevish.



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Would it just be too crazy to cut Akhator? Then you can keep Thorton, Plaisance and Lewis.

Diggins/Phillips/Chong
Gray/(Powers)
Christmas/Davis
Johnson/Plaisance/Thornton
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They're not cutting the #3 overall pick.



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It occurs to me that like Stokes one advantage Chong had is being a successful sub. In college she had to learn to be effective plying limited, sporadic minutes. Most WNBA rooks are stars and never had to play well coming off the bench. Maybe not a big deal but a small advantage.




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Would it just be too crazy to cut Akhator? Then you can keep Thorton, Plaisance and Lewis.


Yes.... too crazy. They made Shaqhator #3 for a reason.... months of research from the penthouse. Can't be fooled by a player who is hitting a few shots in camp. Thornton will still be available down the line if Shaq doesn't work out.



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Would it just be too crazy to cut Akhator? Then you can keep Thorton, Plaisance and Lewis.

Diggins/Phillips/Chong
Gray/(Powers)
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0% chance of that happening.


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Would it just be too crazy to cut Akhator?


Hey, you in the basement, pipe down!



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Chong is in! She made the team. Bias waived. Go Fab 5! Very Happy


Chong definitely is? The team is down to 12?

I still see 14 on their roster page.
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Chong is in! She made the team. Bias waived. Go Fab 5! Very Happy


Chong definitely is? The team is down to 12?

I still see 14 on their roster page.


Do you see any other guards that are still in contention?



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Shades wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
RavenDog wrote:
Chong is in! She made the team. Bias waived. Go Fab 5! Very Happy


Chong definitely is? The team is down to 12?

I still see 14 on their roster page.


Do you see any other guards that are still in contention?


I've never followed the Wings closely enough to know who's still in contention. What's your opinion?

If Chong is in, I now think you were right that she somehow had been informed that her position was secure before she skipped the last exhibition game.
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GlennMacGrady wrote:
Shades wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
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Chong is in! She made the team. Bias waived. Go Fab 5! Very Happy


Chong definitely is? The team is down to 12?

I still see 14 on their roster page.


Do you see any other guards that are still in contention?


I've never followed the Wings closely enough to know who's still in contention. What's your opinion?

If Chong is in, I now think you were right that she somehow had been informed that her position was secure before she skipped the last exhibition game.


You need to read the thread more. Lots of information. It was pretty clear it was Bias vs Chong for the last guard spot. Bias was cut.

Hamblin is on full season suspension. That brings the active roster down to 13. That brings it down to Thornton vs Plaisance vs Lewis for the last post spot. One of those is likely out unless something unexpected happens.

I'm not sure if they can temp suspend Powers because she's not ready to go yet. If they do that, then they have nobody left to cut. If they do cut somebody, my guess is Thornton.



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Dallas Wings waive vets Tiffany Bias, Jordan Hooper; what this means for Wings' roster

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/other-sports/wnba/2017/05/08/dallas-wings-waive-vets-tiffany-bias-jordan-hooper-means-wings-roster

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The move brings the Wings to 13 players on the training camp roster. Dallas will need to cut one more player to get down to the 12-player limit for the regular season, which must be done by May 12.


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The move signals that the Wings are fully embracing their youth movement. It gives Dallas the option to keep all five of its draft picks from April's draft, including second-round pick Breanna Lewis and third-round pick Saniya Chong.



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Final cut should be Thornton. If not, possibly Plaisance.



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Final cut should be Thornton. If not, possibly Plaisance.


Probably thornton , but you never know. Ching Chong Bias is gone so anything is possible.



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Send plaisance packing! The notion that she is a post is laughable since I don't recall ever seeing her actually attempt to post up. I have seen her repeatedly come off a high screen to shoot a 3 that bounces off the front of the rim. Practice session reveals no change in her method. Plus you keep Thornton as Glory has a Hx of injuries and head-case moments. Thornton can slide in to her role as they are very similar. Plaisance OTH can easily slide into a role at the DMV in zootopia.


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Send plaisance packing! The notion that she is a post is laughable since I don't recall ever seeing her actually attempt to post up. I have seen her repeatedly come off a high screen to shoot a 3 that bounces off the front of the rim. Practice session reveals no change in her method. Plus you keep Thornton as Glory has a Hx of injuries and head-case moments. Thornton can slide in to her role as they are very similar. Plaisance OTH can easily slide into a role at the DMV in zootopia.


Thornton is more similar to Christmas-Kelly Than Glory . But appearance wise they could pass for sisters . Glory & Thornton That is , Thornton plays hard and has a nice set shot from the 3 but she does not move the ball well and makes some tough decisions going 1 on 1 alot and not finishing at the rim. Plassaince is the same ole same ole so both should go and pick up someone off waivers.



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zvyn3 wrote:
Fighting Artichoke wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
Wings waive Tiffany Bias and Jordan Hooper


Bad move.



Not the bias part. She was a mess saturday night tbh. Cant judge chong bcuz she was not there but her pedigree speaks louder.


Can't judge Bias by one game either. What pedigree does Chong have?


Judging bias off a half a season and a few pre season games. Our team pooked abissmal with biased running the point last game . albeit 5 assists she had 3 turnovers in which should have been about 9 with the loose balls and weird passes she through. She didnt do herself any favors is all im saying. And the pedigree of Sue bird , moriah Jefferson , renee montgomery to name a few and im not even a uconn fan Rolling Eyes


Not quite sure what you mean.


He means that she is from UConn. They have a pretty good track record of developing players and getting them ready for the WNBA. And I'm not a UConn fan either. Are you intentionally being obtuse? If you disagree with his assessment, then state it, but don't act like you have no idea what he's talking about.


So you're saying that just because she's from UConn it means she's going to be a good WNBA player? Why isn't Tierney Lawlor on a team?


That's not even close to what I wrote. I simply stated what WNBA 09 was clearly implying that you seemed to be intentionally not understanding. I even added "If you disagree with his assessment, then state it, but don't act like you have no idea what he's talking about." I never said spoke to the point of whether or not Chong's UConn pedigree made her a better option for the backup PG slot. Having seen neither preseason game (nor the Wings' practices), I am ill-informed to make that assessment.


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Let's face it. If she wasn't from UConn, (1) no one would think that a third round pick who finally got off the bench as a senior in college primarily because there was no useful alternative available should make the team, and (2) no one would give a rat's ass.


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ArtBest23 wrote:
Let's face it. If she wasn't from UConn, (1) no one would think that a third round pick who finally got off the bench as a senior in college primarily because there was no useful alternative available should make the team, and (2) no one would give a rat's ass.


+1 , that pedigree iwas referring too



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ArtBest23 wrote:
Let's face it. If she wasn't from UConn, (1) no one would think that a third round pick who finally got off the bench as a senior in college primarily because there was no useful alternative available should make the team, and (2) no one would give a rat's ass.



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Well Prince in Phoenix is still in the mix as well for a third rounder to make a roster.



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PostPosted: 05/09/17 3:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
Well Prince in Phoenix is still in the mix as well for a third rounder to make a roster.


That's who I voted for! (3rd rounder making the roster)



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