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PostPosted: 08/20/16 5:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Lord in heaven people, we are all Americans, can we put the shut aside and cheer for ALL our players 😕


WHERES PARKER THO
She's home nursing her attitude, you know, the reason she didn't make the team?


Geno kept her off the team out of spite. People who say her attitude is the reason she didn't make the team are so full of shit it's ridiculous, and clearly know nothing about her. If attitude was the reason then half the damn team wouldn't be there. Candace has never been suspended by her team for violating team rules. Never had a DUI. Never punched a player in the face. Never been arrested for domestic violence. Never led the league in technicals. Never refused to play for her team and forced a trade. So tell me, what makes her so much more evil than everyone else?


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zvyn3 wrote:
caune wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
caune wrote:
Lord in heaven people, we are all Americans, can we put the shut aside and cheer for ALL our players 😕


WHERES PARKER THO
She's home nursing her attitude, you know, the reason she didn't make the team?


Geno kept her off the team out of spite. People who say her attitude is the reason she didn't make the team are so full of shit it's ridiculous, and clearly know nothing about her. If attitude was the reason then half the damn team wouldn't be there. Candace has never been suspended by her team for violating team rules. Never had a DUI. Never punched a player in the face. Never been arrested for domestic violence. Never led the league in technicals. Never refused to play for her team and forced a trade. So tell me, what makes her so much more evil than everyone else?

If attitude was so important Catch would have gotten more than 6:33 in a blowout game. That was insulting to her. So Parker has too much attitude to even be on the team and Catch just isn't talented enough to get minutes even when the game isn't close. And it is just a coincidence that both are TN players.


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PostPosted: 08/20/16 6:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Finally over! now lets get the wnba started this is one of the most boring events at the olympics!


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Lord in heaven people, we are all Americans, can we put the shut aside and cheer for ALL our players 😕


WHERES PARKER THO


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Candace Parker didn't make it to Rio, but she's having one of the best seasons in WNBA history.



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Demarcus Cousins is widely known for having the worst attitude in the NBA. He's on the Olympic team. So is Draymond Green. I don't hear anyone having a problem with that.


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PostPosted: 08/20/16 6:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Demarcus Cousins is widely known for having the worst attitude in the NBA.


Confused

"Widely known," or widely perceived?



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Candace Parker didn't make it to Rio, but she's having one of the best seasons in WNBA history.


LOL she's not even having her own best season



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Candace Parker didn't make it to Rio, but she's having one of the best seasons in WNBA history.


LOL she's not even having her own best season


Neither is almost everyone on the team.


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The ladies definitely handled their business and DT was the MVP of the tourney without a doubt! As someone stated in an article, it is amazing to think that the Olympic team has been solid gold since the W has been in existence! Awesome!!

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Candace Parker didn't make it to Rio, but she's having one of the best seasons in WNBA history.


LOL she's not even having her own best season


Neither is almost everyone on the team.


Wellll, it depends on how you look at it. I know we are used to her in the post and on the boards but she has continued to adjust her game for her team. The 2012 Olympic MVP is 2nd in assists (the sole F-C even in the top 10) and stands as the only player in the league who ranks in the top 11 in all core statistical categories.


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We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.



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Howee darling, tell us how you REALLY feel. Wink



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Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.


That is not how USA basketball works, and it never has been. Dawn Staley started and played a ton of minutes in her fourth Olympics. And quite frankly, she was terrible. Catch was on this team.

Because here is the truth, whatever team we field next go around will be the most talented, and we don't need to "Groom" in an early Olympics. They'll get it next go around. Team USA has always been about honoring the vets that have been there from the beginning. I would have been pissed if Bird or Catch weren't on the team. They earned their spot.

Hell, Bird ran the offense the best. The team looked better with her in it, despite pilight's shit stirring. I love Whalen, I think she did her job, but if only one of them goes to the Olympics. It's Bird. (That being said, both of them earned their spots there.)

Some people need to show some fucking respect to these ladies and the coach. This is Team USA.



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Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.


Naw, he loves Griner. Didn't you see that celebratory hug? He bent over backwards to get Griner on the 2014 Worlds team. Griner is definitely an honorary UConn member. Smile

Why don't you consider Catchings "piggy"?

How come all you guys complaining instead of celebrating a win still aren't over this?



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Shades wrote:
Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.


Naw, he loves Griner. Didn't you see that celebratory hug? He bent over backwards to get Griner on the 2014 Worlds team. Griner is definitely an honorary UConn member. Smile

Why don't consider Catchings "piggy"?

How come all you guys complaining instead of celebrating a win still aren't over this?


Because we can't have nice things. That's why.



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mercfan3 wrote:
Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.


That is not how USA basketball works, and it never has been. Dawn Staley started and played a ton of minutes in her fourth Olympics. And quite frankly, she was terrible. Catch was on this team.

Because here is the truth, whatever team we field next go around will be the most talented, and we don't need to "Groom" in an early Olympics. They'll get it next go around. Team USA has always been about honoring the vets that have been there from the beginning. I would have been pissed if Bird or Catch weren't on the team. They earned their spot.

Hell, Bird ran the offense the best. The team looked better with her in it, despite pilight's shit stirring. I love Whalen, I think she did her job, but if only one of them goes to the Olympics. It's Bird. (That being said, both of them earned their spots there.)

Some people need to show some fucking respect to these ladies and the coach. This is Team USA.

It didn't seem like Team USA at all to me. It was all about Team Uconn and I could care less and now it seems like Geno is going to be selfish and coach again in 2020 even though there are several other willing, capable coaches ready for their chance. No other coach on the women's side took more than one Olympics and he wants 3?




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Dawn Staley started and played a ton of minutes in her fourth Olympics.


Staley only played in three Olympics. The last one (in 2004) was the only one in which she was the starter.



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[Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

You could say the same thing about any player.
You could say the same thing about any 6 players. Arguably all 12.
But Sue's play in the WNBA this season has more than demonstrated her worthiness of being there purely on playing ability.

If it was my team for the long term then I would have included more youth in it this year, to make the transition to Tokyo smoother, but not a single one of those 12 is unworthy of being there IMO.

Seems like Geno had the team playing too well for some people's liking. Much like at UConn.
If the aussie Opals had just won their 6th consecutive gold medal the whole country would be lauding the hell out of them.



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That is not how USA basketball works, and it never has been.

Correct. Team USA has more fairly fielded the best players available, not those necessarily closest in ties to the coach. 2, 3 Olympics? Beyond that, there are almost certainly BETTER players than you, ready to go. Just because you can *hide* amongst better, younger players in the Team concept doesn't make you The Best at your position. At their positions, if they continue, Taurasi and Moore should be around 2 more Olympics, imo. But Bird is not at their level, and she overstayed her time, regardless of sentimentalism. You Birdy fans may be delighted, but you cannot claim she was "indespensably irreplaceable".

mercfan3 wrote:
Some people need to show some fucking respect to these ladies and the coach. This is Team USA.
Yes, Blind Patriotism cuz it's all wrapped in the flag. Bullshit. Rolling Eyes
And some people need to realize the fucking difference between sheer talent and political favoritism.
Muffet McGraw could have pulled together a Non-UConn team of Griner, EDD, Parker, The O sisters, Bonner, Simms, Diggins, McCoughtry, Loyd, Bentley, Augustus, etc., and beaten the snot outta Geno's team. For America. Hence, despite the gold, it is NOT America's best possible team.

So it begs the question: who gets the nod to play on the biggest world stage, for the glory (see: edorsements, etc.), the gold, the honor....and for the fourth time. hmmm.



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mercfan3 wrote:
Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.


That is not how USA basketball works, and it never has been. Dawn Staley started and played a ton of minutes in her fourth Olympics. And quite frankly, she was terrible. Catch was on this team.

Because here is the truth, whatever team we field next go around will be the most talented, and we don't need to "Groom" in an early Olympics. They'll get it next go around. Team USA has always been about honoring the vets that have been there from the beginning. I would have been pissed if Bird or Catch weren't on the team. They earned their spot.

Hell, Bird ran the offense the best. The team looked better with her in it, despite pilight's shit stirring. I love Whalen, I think she did her job, but if only one of them goes to the Olympics. It's Bird. (That being said, both of them earned their spots there.)

Some people need to show some fucking respect to these ladies and the coach. This is Team USA.


Candace Parker was there from the beginning. Didn't seem like she got any favoritism for that.


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Demarcus Cousins is widely known for having the worst attitude in the NBA. He's on the Olympic team. So is Draymond Green. I don't hear anyone having a problem with that.


For goodness sake, the Olympics are over, the team won the Gold and that is that. She didn't make the team so it is time to move on.


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Demarcus Cousins is widely known for having the worst attitude in the NBA. He's on the Olympic team. So is Draymond Green. I don't hear anyone having a problem with that.


For goodness sake, the Olympics are over, the team won the Gold and that is that. She didn't make the team so it is time to move on.


I'm not going to move on. Just because the Olympics are over and the team won gold doesn't mean it was right. She belonged on the team and Geno kept her off, plain and simple.


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I hope Geno will continue to coach Team USA!!! Cool

Congrats Team USA. 6th gold medals.

And Birdy for your 4th gold medal! Let them cry with bitterness! HAHA! Crying or Very sad Laughing



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Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.



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They could have Beyonce coach this team & they'd still win gold. There's just no competition from anyone else.



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Ace's brother was ranting on Twitter last Olympics and Ace seemed to keep the fire going rather than try to put it out. She's dramatic and she'll have to work on that. The fact that shes played pity me ever since then about it makes me glad they left out all the drama. Off that note, congrats Team USA!!!


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zvyn3 wrote:
caune wrote:
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Lord in heaven people, we are all Americans, can we put the shut aside and cheer for ALL our players 😕


WHERES PARKER THO
She's home nursing her attitude, you know, the reason she didn't make the team?


Geno kept her off the team out of spite. People who say her attitude is the reason she didn't make the team are so full of shit it's ridiculous, and clearly know nothing about her. If attitude was the reason then half the damn team wouldn't be there. Candace has never been suspended by her team for violating team rules. Never had a DUI. Never punched a player in the face. Never been arrested for domestic violence. Never led the league in technicals. Never refused to play for her team and forced a trade. So tell me, what makes her so much more evil than everyone else?


Did I say it was a bad attitude? There are all sorts of traits that need to be balanced on a team. Geno had a choice between Catch and Parker. Who's going to happily hold down the end of the bench? Catch get's the vote.
You all should be very happy she was left off the team, it's made a huge difference in her game this season. Might even lead her to a Championship :O



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So, all the people complaining about Geno and the 5 UCONN players, are you OK with Reeve as the assistant and 4 Lynx players on the team? just wondering?



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bring it, haters, bring it.

a summer preview of what's coming in November.

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Sourgrapes.

Parker was not selected. BOOHHOOOO. Laughing

Bird is currently playing her best season at the age of 36! Younger players? You have to earn it. Razz

Now Birdy, enjoy your 4th gold medal, while your haters are crying. HAHA!



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Lindsay "shine on you crazy gopher" Whalen!



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Michelle89 wrote:
Howee wrote:
pilight wrote:
We are so much better when Bird is on the bench


And even better if she were off the TEAM. This Olympics has entrenched her in my mind as one of the *Piggy-est* Olympians ever. I don't give a hairy rat's ass how good you wanna argue she is: WE WOULD HAVE WON GOLD WITH WHALEN/SIMS/DIGGINS/BENTLEY/TAKEYERPICK and Bird on the bench handing out towels. She is no longer the best PG in America, but her sweetheart deal with Geno---NOT her skills--has put her into the Olympic History books. NOT her skills.

If she'd been honest AND classy, she'd have done what was in America's best interest for the future and insisted he have another, younger pg take her place. Anybody who thinks she was essential to gold is merely indulging their Girly crush on her.

I have no doubt it galled him to have to start Griner, to keep from a total UConn lineup. Yes, on a technical level, he's an amazing coach, but he's also an egotistic self-promoter, in his subliminal, classy way.



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Which PG is having a better WNBA season then Sue Bird ? Laughing Laughing
I thought she shut all the haters up with her play so far in the wnba season but i guess there are always 1 or 2 who never give up Laughing Shocked Laughing



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Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?


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Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?

There was a USA Today article a few days ago that said he would be likely to return.


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miller40 wrote:
Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?

There was a USA Today article a few days ago that said he would be likely to return.


Considering how much it helps him at UConn, he'd probably be willing to stay forever.



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caune wrote:
zvyn3 wrote:
caune wrote:
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caune wrote:
Lord in heaven people, we are all Americans, can we put the shut aside and cheer for ALL our players 😕


WHERES PARKER THO
She's home nursing her attitude, you know, the reason she didn't make the team?


Geno kept her off the team out of spite. People who say her attitude is the reason she didn't make the team are so full of shit it's ridiculous, and clearly know nothing about her. If attitude was the reason then half the damn team wouldn't be there. Candace has never been suspended by her team for violating team rules. Never had a DUI. Never punched a player in the face. Never been arrested for domestic violence. Never led the league in technicals. Never refused to play for her team and forced a trade. So tell me, what makes her so much more evil than everyone else?


Did I say it was a bad attitude? There are all sorts of traits that need to be balanced on a team. Geno had a choice between Catch and Parker. Who's going to happily hold down the end of the bench? Catch get's the vote.
You all should be very happy she was left off the team, it's made a huge difference in her game this season. Might even lead her to a Championship :O

Catch was not very happy holding down the end of the bench. There was an article that came out where she had to really adjust to her role. She tried not to complain but I could tell she wasn't happy. She wanted to be on the court just like Candace would have been because they are both competitors. Candace should have made the team over multiple people and I don't believe it should have been down to the 2 of them but it wouldn't surprise me. I think it was obvious that Geno didn't want either of them.


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Ace's brother was ranting on Twitter last Olympics and Ace seemed to keep the fire going rather than try to put it out. She's dramatic and she'll have to work on that. The fact that shes played pity me ever since then about it makes me glad they left out all the drama. Off that note, congrats Team USA!!!

First I have ever heard of this but if so good for him. Geno gives playing time and puts the players on the team that he likes the most. In between games Geno was hanging out with his uconn players.


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miller40 wrote:
Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?

There was a USA Today article a few days ago that said he would be likely to return.

Thanks, I missed that and had no idea where all this talk about it was coming from.


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Ace's brother was ranting on Twitter last Olympics and Ace seemed to keep the fire going rather than try to put it out. She's dramatic and she'll have to work on that. The fact that shes played pity me ever since then about it makes me glad they left out all the drama. Off that note, congrats Team USA!!!

First I have ever heard of this but if so good for him. Geno gives playing time and puts the players on the team that he likes the most. In between games Geno was hanging out with his uconn players.

Playing time looked fine to me, and I am far from a UCONN fan. We can have never ending arguments about how much influence he has over the forming of the team, but ultimately his job is to win Gold Medals. He did that. For whatever reason they decided to leave Parker off the team. I wouldn't have, but I also don't know all of the factors at play and obviously they felt their team was strong enough without her. Maybe she pissed him off, or pissed off someone else in USA Basketball, or maybe they were looking for someone with a different skill set or just liked Catchings better.

At the end of the day, no player has an innate "right" to be on the team. Basketball doesn't have guaranteed slots so it's not a meritocracy.

As for hanging out with UCONN players? You don't think it is normal to want to spend time with one's former students? I personally do it all the time when I run into them at events. He has a relationship with those players so during their free time he has every right to spend it with whomever he wishes.



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They could have Beyonce coach this team & they'd still win gold. There's just no competition from anyone else.


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Ace's brother was ranting on Twitter last Olympics and Ace seemed to keep the fire going rather than try to put it out. She's dramatic and she'll have to work on that. The fact that shes played pity me ever since then about it makes me glad they left out all the drama. Off that note, congrats Team USA!!!


Was he ranting about the lack of minutes? Pretty sure that's what the decision boiled down to.

In the article that was posted, Parker looked on the bright side by saying she got to spend more time with her daughter. Fans can't do the same? Another bright side is she doesn't have to worry about zika just in case she wants to add to her family after accomplishing her biggest goal (not that I want her to win a championship against my team, but it could happen). All kinda bright sides.

This was a great team. Everything went smoothly. Everybody validated their place on the team. There really should be nothing to complain about, but people always feel a need to complain.



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They could have Beyonce coach this team & they'd still win gold. There's just no competition from anyone else.


Beyonce would have helped this team win platinum

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jmpenn90 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?

There was a USA Today article a few days ago that said he would be likely to return.


Considering how much it helps him at UConn, he'd probably be willing to stay forever.


I expect him to be the coach until he retires which last until the next 4 Olympics. The Olympics are like politics, all that matters is the ends justify the means.


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....but ultimately his job is to win Gold Medals. He did that.....At the end of the day, no player has an innate "right" to be on the team. Basketball doesn't have guaranteed slots so it's not a meritocracy.

Correct. And frankly, he could have, indisputably, done it with ZERO UConn players. But. He gets to choose (forget the "committee" bullshit), and here's where his ego comes though. And Bird's Olympic spot is sealed.

Bird is certainly playing at the Olympic level of quality: there's no disputing that, either. BUT: unlike Moore or Taurasi, who are pretty peerless, there are at least 5 YOUNGER players who could have done as well or better than Bird. Nonetheless, like Cash and Jones in the past, she gets the nod because of her college coach. That's life in USA basketball. Just cuz it happens to benefit a player YOU like, does NOT mean it's fair.

Caune, your Lynx argument doesn't fit at all. 'Mone, Lindsay, Syl and Maya all come from different colleges. This is about an egotistical college coach taking care of his own, while extraordinary players of the future (Sims, Diggins, Bentley) get passed over for Miss Piggy.



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pilight wrote:
jmpenn90 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?

There was a USA Today article a few days ago that said he would be likely to return.


Considering how much it helps him at UConn, he'd probably be willing to stay forever.


I expect him to be the coach until he retires which last until the next 4 Olympics. The Olympics are like politics, all that matters is the ends justify the means.


You think he'll coach through 2032?



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She's home nursing her attitude, you know, the reason she didn't make the team?


And you know this how? Oh, because you and the people that keep saying this were on the committee and involved with the interactions between Parker and Geno. Laughing



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....but ultimately his job is to win Gold Medals. He did that.....At the end of the day, no player has an innate "right" to be on the team. Basketball doesn't have guaranteed slots so it's not a meritocracy.

Correct. And frankly, he could have, indisputably, done it with ZERO UConn players. But. He gets to choose (forget the "committee" bullshit), and here's where his ego comes though. And Bird's Olympic spot is sealed.

Whoever chooses the team, whether it be him or the committee, it is their right to choose whichever players they want. That is how the system for basketball works. The flip side of it is that the coach is the one who will get the blame if it all falls apart. And make no mistake, with the talent gap between the US and the field, not winning a Gold Medal would induce more embarrassment and shame than winning one creates awe and pride. Not to mention, most of the credit for winning goes to the players.

So yeah, I am sure his ego comes through at times, but if it gets the best of him and he chooses poorly, he pays the price. His job is to win, not make "fair" choices on who gets to go. As long as the team brings home the Gold, ego or not, fair or not, he has done what was asked of him. Complaining about the make up of a team that not only won but dominated their competition, requires a presupposition of "entitlement" that does not actually exist. No one from USA Basketball has ever made the claim that they are taking the 12 best players. Nor even that they are going to take the best players available at each position. They have made it clear that they will select the team that they (or perhaps the coach) wants. If there is no standard other than coach/committee desire, then it is objectively impossible to have been "snubbed".



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This is about an egotistical college coach taking care of his own, while extraordinary players of the future (Sims, Diggins, Bentley) get passed over for Miss Piggy.


Unless your name is Griner (who BTW didn't go to UConn), you need to show up to camp to make the team. Sims and Diggins got invites but didn't show. Diggins is just now getting back to form. Hers would have been a risky and stupid selection. Bentley? What's people's fascination with Bentley? She really sucked her first ten games this season, and I'm not sure her recent play has made up for that quite yet. Bentley doesn't exactly fit the mold of the team player. She's more of a I Gots Mine type of player, and if she don't gets hers, she can seen bruding on the bench with a towel over her head. Umm, no thank you. I'd be surprised if Bentley ever made the invite list even with a rash of retirements from the Team USA.



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pilight wrote:
jmpenn90 wrote:
miller40 wrote:
Where/when did Geno say he's considering 2020?

There was a USA Today article a few days ago that said he would be likely to return.


Considering how much it helps him at UConn, he'd probably be willing to stay forever.


I expect him to be the coach until he retires which last until the next 4 Olympics. The Olympics are like politics, all that matters is the ends justify the means.


Geno will be 66 in 2020



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WOW. People wonder why the women don't get as much support as they should, well just read some of these posts. Whiny, unpatriotic, jealous individuals, who just rip for the sake of envy, rather than supporting the game they are supposed to love. You need therapy to deal with your envy, it is rediculous. I am with Luuc, other countries women would be ecstatic.


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I am with Luuc, other countries women would be ecstatic.


Spain's women will get more recognition at home for their silver than the US women will for their gold.



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