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PostPosted: 03/03/17 11:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Wiese might be gone by 8. I think her stock has risen significantly since the start of the season.


I would love for Atlanta to get her at #7



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Just watched UW lose to Oregon and it just reinforced that Chantel Osahor is absolutely not first round material. She was winded repeatedly against the Ducks to the point where they had to pull her. It affected her free throws and the ability of the team to start the offense quickly. She is a rebounding machine but she is not much more of a defensive force. The Ducks were able to use a good combination of players to neutralize her post moves. Anyone who thinks she is has not seen how often she hangs back on a change of possession because the TV cameras don't often show that part.


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sigur3 wrote:
Wiese might be gone by 8. I think her stock has risen significantly since the start of the season.


I would love for Atlanta to get her at #7


Didn't you and Miller learn anything from the Weisner experiment?



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I see Curt Miller is at the Pac 12 tournament... maybe looking at Wiese at #8?


WNBA coaches love these tournaments because they can check out several prospects without a lot of travel. So Miller is favoring the Pac when there's a couple of tournaments happening in SC?



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A lot going on in this Kentucky/South Carolina game. Coates out with an ankle injury. Both Wilson and Epps are doing everything for their respective teams. Very impressed with Akhator, she's undersized against Wilson but she plays with a lot of heart. She currently has 24 points and 10 rebounds with 3:53 remaining in the 4th



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Feyonda Fitzgerald (senior)
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Dan Hughes was doing color commentary for tonight's Houston vs Temple game, and he said Fitzgerald was one of the best guards in the country.
She had 30 pts & 7 assists tonight.



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Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Wiese might be gone by 8. I think her stock has risen significantly since the start of the season.


I would love for Atlanta to get her at #7


Didn't you and Miller learn anything from the Weisner experiment?


Learned what? That you think a shooting guard is the same as a point guard? That you think that a player who was part of a 3-scorer system is the same as a player who had to help her team develop around her?


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Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Wiese might be gone by 8. I think her stock has risen significantly since the start of the season.


I would love for Atlanta to get her at #7


Didn't you and Miller learn anything from the Weisner experiment?


Wiese was the best player on the team last year...



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pilight wrote:
Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Wiese might be gone by 8. I think her stock has risen significantly since the start of the season.


I would love for Atlanta to get her at #7


Didn't you and Miller learn anything from the Weisner experiment?


Wiese was the best player on the team last year...


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pilight wrote:
Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Wiese might be gone by 8. I think her stock has risen significantly since the start of the season.


I would love for Atlanta to get her at #7


Didn't you and Miller learn anything from the Weisner experiment?


Wiese was the best player on the team last year...


Marginally better? This is not unlike last year when you insisted Weisner was.a mid-first rounder because of the hype surrounding Oregon St. Hamblin benefitted from it too.

How does Weise fit in with ATL? Would you use her as a PG?

Make a list of players showing up at #7 that would make you pass on Weise.



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How do you guys feel about A.Morrissette? I think she may play herself into the 2nd round?



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How do you guys feel about A.Morrissette? I think she may play herself into the 2nd round?


She's had an amazing tournament but I don't think she has a WNBA body. In person she looks awfully spindly. I wouldn't be surprised if someone gives her a look though!



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PostPosted: 03/05/17 10:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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We did something like this a couple years ago and I thought it was a fun game, so...rank the following senior guards according to how good you think they will be in the WNBA.

Kelsey Plum
Alexis Peterson
Alexis Jones
Makayla Epps
Lindsay Allen
Sydney Wiese
Leticia Romero
Tori Jankoska
Jessica January


Bump.



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How do you guys feel about A.Morrissette? I think she may play herself into the 2nd round?


A. Morissette has already won me over, in spite of me. But don't be alarmed if she faaalls (in the draft)

I'm happy for A. Morissette. I wish nothing but the best for her. She speaks eloquently and I'm sure she'd make a really excellent mother.

Sometimes A. Morissette can be Ms. Play-It-Safe, afraid to fly.

You have to wonder if A. Morissette's Canadian responsibilities will interfere with the team she ends up with...

One thing I have to give A. Morissette though is that she always has one Hand in Her Pocket, while the other one's driving through the lane, yeah she's got one Hand in Her Pocket, while the other one's shooting the three ball.

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Good one, Bello.



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PostPosted: 03/06/17 9:43 am    ::: Re: A. Morissette Reply Reply with quote

BelloFratello wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
How do you guys feel about A.Morrissette? I think she may play herself into the 2nd round?


A. Morissette has already won me over, in spite of me. But don't be alarmed if she faaalls (in the draft)

I'm happy for A. Morissette. I wish nothing but the best for her. She speaks eloquently and I'm sure she'd make a really excellent mother.

Sometimes A. Morissette can be Ms. Play-It-Safe, afraid to fly.

You have to wonder if A. Morissette's Canadian responsibilities will interfere with the team she ends up with...

One thing I have to give A. Morissette though is that she always has one Hand in Her Pocket, while the other one's driving through the lane, yeah she's got one Hand in Her Pocket, while the other one's shooting the three ball.

Wink Wink Wink


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The last few seasons it seem like a decent amount of draftees make rosters this season it is looking a little tougher

In the first round I think picks 9-12 will have a challenge surviving until opening day unless there are injuries or player missing time

9 goes to Chicago who is 12 deep before the draft
Sloot, Pondexter, Young, Dolson, Boyette, Faulkner, Quigley, Copper, Breland, Parker, N'Dour, Laney and already the Sky first draftee will be #2, so #9 needs to jump two of those players to make the team

10 goes to Dallas
Diggins, Christmas, Powers, GloJo, Paris, Phillips, Bias, Hooper, Plaisance, Hamblin, #3 and #4 OK it is possible for #10 to displace someone above (Hooper, Plaidance, Bias) but with #3 and #4 coming aboard The Wings might prefer someone with a little more experience than a 3rd rookie.

11 goes to LA
Gray, Beard, Carson, Parker, Ogwumike, Sims, R. Williams, Lavneder, that 8 before you even get to Dabovic, Dublejivic (Sp I mangled that) experienced invitee TJJ, Warley camp invites who have made it briefly or almost made it Hoskins, Weisner, Ibekwe, that is 15 and I think I'm forgetting someone can a late first rounder jump ahead of most of those players, and that is if LA can even afford 12.

12 goes to Minny
Whalen, Augustus, Moore, Brunson, Fowles, Montgomery, Perkins, Howard, Pierson that is 9 Hampton, Cruz, Fagbenle make 12 with question marks, and i feel like I'm missing someone and Minny might be stuck at 11 as well

Not saying they can't make it but it is more of a challenge for those first rounders than in years past.

In the second round (I've forgotten the order already) only SA looks like a possibility even though they might not have a second round pick, Conn at 13 has a chance but with Conn now having the #8 pick and a lot of young talent in development I'm not sure #13 or even fan favorite Faris has much of a chance. In NY #14 has a tough road we have 12 not including Schimmel, Barbee, Alston or one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe can't really see #14 being able to displace any of those player let alone someone who is actually likely to make the roster. With Xargay and Petrovic and question marks in PX maybe if PX had a second round pick it could make it at least until others show, and Atl and Indy a 2nd round pick might have a fighting chance but it will still be tough.

Maybe not the best year to be a draftee if you're not a top pick.


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In NY #14 has a tough road we have 12 not including Schimmel, Barbee, Alston or one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe can't really see #14 being able to displace any of those player let alone someone who is actually likely to make the roster.


I wouldn't be totally surprised, but let's see who you draft.



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Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
In NY #14 has a tough road we have 12 not including Schimmel, Barbee, Alston or one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe can't really see #14 being able to displace any of those player let alone someone who is actually likely to make the roster.


I wouldn't be totally surprised, but let's see who you draft.


Originally some were putting Shayla Cooper in this range. If you were to get her, I could see her making the team. But it may be that she's moved herself further up with her play late in the year.



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myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
In NY #14 has a tough road we have 12 not including Schimmel, Barbee, Alston or one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe can't really see #14 being able to displace any of those player let alone someone who is actually likely to make the roster.


I wouldn't be totally surprised, but let's see who you draft.


Originally some were putting Shayla Cooper in this range. If you were to get her, I could see her making the team. But it may be that she's moved herself further up with her play late in the year.


I'm assuming the thinking is that a true SF with SF size might be able to sneak into the 12th spot ahead of Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe who I think at the moment are fighting for that 12th spot as tweener 3/4s.

10 locks ATM
Prince, Rodgers, Wright, Charles, Stokes, Boyd, Zellous, Allen, Zahui B and Vaughn with Harltley looking pretty secure as well unless Schimmel, Barbee, or Alston displace her, and the 12 spot going to someone who can play SF (Burdick, RainCock-Ekunwe or maybe someone we draft at 14.) It might not be totally out of the question for a PG drafted at 14 (Allen, Romero, Jankoska) to bump Harltey or Boyd but I don't see it.

What about #14 and Schimmel for K. Hampton? Any Lib or Minny fans who would do this?


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myrtle wrote:
Shades wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
In NY #14 has a tough road we have 12 not including Schimmel, Barbee, Alston or one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe can't really see #14 being able to displace any of those player let alone someone who is actually likely to make the roster.


I wouldn't be totally surprised, but let's see who you draft.


Originally some were putting Shayla Cooper in this range. If you were to get her, I could see her making the team. But it may be that she's moved herself further up with her play late in the year.


Actually, it wasn't that long ago, and you can only fit so many people into the first round.

Originally, draftsite.com had her Cooper at #9. That seemed high then, and then she got benched mid-season and tumble, tumble, tumble. #14 seems about right for Cooper, but there's still time to move a little bit either way.

Now Alexis Prince.... there's somebody who has improved their stock.



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Yeah, there is a lot of need for SF, so I think players like Coffey, Prince, Cooper may move up higher. I like McCall, but really I would take Coffey and Cooper at least ahead of her...and maybe Prince as well.



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[quote="Shades"][quote="myrtle"][quote="Shades"]
J-Spoon wrote:

Now Alexis Prince.... there's somebody who has improved their stock.


Now dont go giving away our secret weapon here in dallas. We have dibs on prince in the draft #RegionalRules 😁



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2017 WNBA Mock Draft: Pre-NCAA Tournament Edition

http://www.herosports.com/wnba-draft/womens-basketball-pre-ncaa-tournament-2017-wnba-mock-draft-caca

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University of Tennessee guard Diamond DeShields is almost universally projected to be the WNBA's No. 1 pick in April, a pick that belongs to the San Antonio Stars.


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Normally, I would go with reality over speculation and not assume DeShields is going pro until she confirms it. But this is a mock draft; speculation is kind of the whole point.

That said, here is how I see the first round of the 2017 WNBA Draft playing out:


1. SAN ANTONIO STARS DIAMOND DESHIELDS, G TENNESSEE

2. CHICAGO SKY (VIA WAS) KELSEY PLUM, G WASHINGTON

3. DALLAS WINGS ALAINA COATES, C SOUTH CAROLINA

4. DALLAS WINGS (VIA LAS VIA CON) ALEXIS PETERSON, G SYRACUSE

5. SAN ANTONIO STARS (VIA PHO) NIA COFFEY, F NORTHWESTERN

6. WASHINGTON MYSTICS (VIA SEA) BRIONNA JONES, C MARYLAND

7. ATLANTA DREAM KELSEY MITCHELL, G OHIO STATE

8. CONNECTICUT SUN (VIA IND) ALEXIS JONES, G BAYLOR

9. CHICAGO SKY CHANTEL OSAHOR, F/C WASHINGTON

10. DALLAS WINGS (VIA NYL) SHATORI WALKER-KIMBROUGH, G MARYLAND

11. LOS ANGELES SPARKS (VIA DAL VIA LAS) MERCEDES RUSSELL, C TENNESSEE

12. MINNESOTA LYNX TORI JANKOSKA, G MICHIGAN STATE


Other than being more sensible about Alexis Peterson (except too high) and Brionna Jones, and less sensible about Kelsey Mitchell , seems a lot like the Megdal mock draft.



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I love that mock!



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I love that mock!


Forgot about Weise already? Surprised



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I love that mock!


Forgot about Weise already? Surprised


If we can get Kelsey Mitchell, I'll gladly forget Wiese.



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What are with these mock drafts having Kelsey Mitchell fall to 6 or 7, if she declares? Laughing


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What are with these mock drafts having Kelsey Mitchell fall to 6 or 7, if she declares? Laughing


I was thinking the exact same thing !! And no way SWK falls outside the top 7 either . cant be taken seriously Arrow PS WE DO NOT WANT ALEXIS PETERSON IN DALLAS



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That mock also has Russell declaring.

If Russell did declare where would she rank against the other posts? In this mock she is 4th behind Coates, B, Jones and Osahor, but while I'm not saying I disagree I do think she has the highest ceiling of the four and I could see a GM taking the risk, since none of the other 3 seem like a sure thing at the next level.




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I can't take that mock serious with Mitchell falling to #7 and Peterson at #4



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justinabina wrote:
I see Curt Miller is at the Pac 12 tournament... maybe looking at Wiese at #8?


I hope not.



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sigur3 wrote:
We did something like this a couple years ago and I thought it was a fun game, so...rank the following senior guards according to how good you think they will be in the WNBA.

Kelsey Plum
Alexis Peterson
Alexis Jones
Makayla Epps
Lindsay Allen
Sydney Wiese
Leticia Romero
Tori Jankoska
Jessica January


Bump.


on Stats alone for point guards, I'd go:
Mitchell
Plum
APeterson
Jankoska
LAllen ... not sure how to rate non 3 point shooters, but if a team allows a Vandersloot development curve
?January


Combo guards, not #1 on their team in assists
AJones
Sykes
Romero ... that's a very tasty 3 stroke olympic battletested
Epps


Wings :
SWK
Coffey
(3 uconn prospects)
Wiese if she can play W defense
DeShields


... BUT the e.z. stats alone, are barely touching 1/3rd of what a player can do.


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Code:

SENIORS                                 |---TOTAL---| |---3-PTS---|               |----REBOUNDS----|
## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts Avg
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13 Akhator, Evelyn     31-31  966 31.2 187-317  .590   0-1    .000 116-170  .682  114 211  325 10.5  80  1  29  66  24  44  490 15.8
15 Allen, Lindsay      33-33 1129 34.2 119-238  .500   8-20   .400  57-79   .722   24 149  173  5.2  69  0 252  71   4  77  303  9.2
41 Coates, Alaina      28-27  749 26.8 140-209  .670   0-0    .000  82-126  .651   92 208  300 10.7  66  1  45  39  39  32  362 12.9
10 Coffey, Nia         29-29  916 31.6 200-466  .429  23-82   .280 158-222  .712   66 236  302 10.4  85  4  78 100  41  36  581 20.0
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32 Cooper, Shayla      32-30  746 23.3 127-258  .492  23-73   .315  60-75   .800   40 160  200  6.3  54  0  62  65   9  22  337 10.5
13 Davis, Nina         33-33  787 23.8 164-299  .548   0-1    .000  84-121  .694   87  99  186  5.6  49  0  56  46  14  34  412 12.5
25 Epps, Makayla       31-31 1117 36.0 200-440  .455  34-99   .343  98-127  .772   25 115  140  4.5  45  1 112  66   2  32  532 17.2
01 Jankoska, Tori      32-32 1156 36.1 234-529  .442 119-312  .381 133-147  .905   49 207  256  8.0  69  0 157  90  13  57  720 22.5
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30 Jones, Alexis       26-26  724 27.8 136-320  .425  56-133  .421  33-46   .717   14 113  127  4.9  46  0 126  56   8  33  361 13.9
42 Jones, Brionna      32-32  846 26.4 252-361  .698   0-1    .000 130-170  .765  149 195  344 10.8  77  2  46  48  50  58  634 19.8
24 McCall, Erica       33-33 1034 31.3 182-407  .447  19-65   .292  99-144  .688  130 158  288  8.7  79  1  17  57  54  22  482 14.6
00 Osahor,Chantel      31-31 1030 33.2 161-335  .481  44-115  .383 121-172  .703  108 365  473 15.3  90  2 129  70  23  38  487 15.7
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01 Peterson, Alexis    31-31 1098 35.4 245-583  .420  78-214  .364 153-192  .797   29  77  106  3.4  43  0 219  98   1  92  721 23.3
10 Plum,Kelsey         32-32 1186 37.1 347-651  .533 105-245  .429 214-241  .888   15 149  164  5.1  63  1 151  82   8  51 1013 31.7
12 Prince, Alexis      33-33  934 28.3 162-343  .472  56-131  .427  20-31   .645   42 154  196  5.9  38  0  78  33  29  20  400 12.1
10 Romero, Leticia     29-28  783 27.0 120-239  .502  52-98   .531  62-67   .925   30  85  115  4.0  53  1 109  67  11  40  354 12.2
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20 Sykes, Brittney     31-31 1025 33.1 206-453  .455  51-134  .381 126-170  .741   88 162  250  8.1  91  2 103  93  26  74  589 19.0
32 Walker-Kimbrough,S. 32-31  925 28.9 212-399  .531  67-150  .447 103-127  .811   28  94  122  3.8  41  0 117  92  22  58  594 18.6
24 Wiese, Sydney       33-33 1135 34.4 166-363  .457 100-218  .459  87-102  .853    8 154  162  4.9  44  0 151  96   2  28  519 15.7
01 Williams, Ronni     31-31  924 29.8 234-435  .538   0-3    .000 127-173  .734   79 163  242  7.8 102  x  70 118  12  39  595 19.2
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ELIGIBLES                              |---TOTAL---| |---3-PTS---|                |----REBOUNDS----|
## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts Avg
04 Brown, Lexie        32-32 1087 34.0 198-404  .490  71-175  .406 119-129  .922   11 106  117  3.7  49  0 116  90   1  89  586 18.3
03 Canada, Jordin      31-29 1068 34.5 199-464  .429  27-76   .355 134-161  .832   49 116  165  5.3  72  3 204  84   2  78  559 18.0
03 Davis, Kaela        30-29  823 27.4 123-346  .355  47-140  .336  62-78   .795   29  81  110  3.7  69  1  67  65   0  30  355 11.8
11 DeShields, Diamond  27-26  904 33.5 167-395  .423  27-77   .351 104-131  .794   35 143  178  6.6  71  2 104 101  27  38  465 17.2
10 Gray, Allisha       30-29  850 28.3 139-279  .498  34-105  .324  74-103  .718   53  76  129  4.3  63  1  80  41  17  43  386 12.9
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23 Greenwell, Rebecca  32-32 1074 33.6 176-397  .443  79-195  .405  94-108  .870   50 148  198  6.2  55  0  77  82   5  49  525 16.4
03 Mitchell, Kelsey    32-32 1081 33.8 247-559  .442 107-286  .374 136-165  .824   11  79   90  2.8  72  1 127  79   5  41  737 23.0
31 Nared, Jaime        30-30 1029 34.3 150-355  .423  34-91   .374 130-148  .878   72 130  202  6.7  82  6  53  55  11  36  464 15.5
21 Russell, Mercedes   30-30 1035 34.5 191-337  .567   0-0    .000 107-159  .673   74 212  286  9.5  71  1  34  60  42  22  489 16.3
35 Vivians, Victoria   33-33  962 29.2 191-506  .377  54-187  .289 104-136  .765   26 114  140  4.2  64  1  46  59  10  49  540 16.4
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I can't take that mock serious with Mitchell falling to #7 and Peterson at #4


agreed.



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7. ATLANTA DREAM KELSEY MITCHELL, G OHIO STATE



Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The people behind these mock drafts that have Kelsey at 6, 7, etc. are either not watching the games, trying to get too cute, or have no idea what WNBA GMs actually look for in prospects. If Mitchell declares, there's no way she isn't a lottery pick at worst . Done. Fin.



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None of them stand out. How many have increased their stats in conference? Wink


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Tiff Mitchell has tendencies that can be scouted so she eventually struggled as teams watched her play. Banham bigger than Plum and better passer but like Plum played no defense and not athletic enough. Both players had the ball in their hands 95% of their careers, not a good sign if you are moving on to play at a higher level. K Michell much better athlete than both, sure has problems re ball dominant etc but could become a better defender. None really great choices. DD c'mon now she could never be a facilitator too many turnovers and she is also ball dominant and not a team player.


To summarize this, you believe none of these players have the opportunity to expand and mature on skills that they have or don't have?



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IMO none are going to change programs. Every player can work to improve, if they want to. If I were a GM, I would be looking to put in some pieces that will compliment what I have, play a role that will improve my team. Some of these have big issues as they have been hyped and center of attention, ball dominant, never played defense etc. Those types I would avoid like the plague.


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7. ATLANTA DREAM KELSEY MITCHELL, G OHIO STATE



Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

The people behind these mock drafts that have Kelsey at 6, 7, etc. are either not watching the games, trying to get too cute, or have no idea what WNBA GMs actually look for in prospects. If Mitchell declares, there's no way she isn't a lottery pick at worst . Done. Fin.


She's a top 2 pick at worst.


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Looking at the stat list above I'm not so sure why NY fans would be getting excited about S. Copper, what am I missing besides her SF size? Why would she be better than say N. Davis for NY?

I will try to catch more of A. Prince in the tourny as her stats seem much better for what NY might be looking for in a SF. I love Bonner if Prince is Bonner-ish I'm all for it.

If McCall lasts until 14 would anyone consider bringing her in to compete with Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe for a 5th post spot?

We're over flowing at shooting/combo guard but I still like Epps. Is Epps or Sykes any better than say Alston or Barbee? And could any of them break through the log jam at that position?

How does Romero, Jankoska and Allen compare to B Boyd and Hartley, any chance one of them could be a better option at back up PG for NY?




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Cooper has size, length, can shoot and is a great athlete. I think she also has some of that 'attitude' that Bill likes, though some fans (Queenie?) wouldn't be thrilled to see her in a Lib uni. She's more of a 3/4 with a definite outside shot. Prince would be a straight up 3. Both have been playing well late in the season. She (Prince)seems to be a good three shooter but not so good from the line, which always concerns me. Nina is size challenged and shot challenged. Her shot is just plain ugly from beyond 4 feet. I mean seriously ugly form. Sometimes it goes in in spite of the form, but mostly she shoots close to the rim and at 5'10" she won't get many of those shots in the W. I just don't see it, though Shades will disagree. JMO.



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Every time I've forced myself to watch that team from Ohio, Shayla Cooper does something that makes me question her maturity and future professionalism. Do not want.



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Looking at the stat list above I'm not so sure why NY fans would be getting excited about S. Copper, what am I missing besides her SF size? Why would she be better than say N. Davis for NY?

I will try to catch more of A. Prince in the tourny as her stats seem much better for what NY might be looking for in a SF. I love Bonner if Prince is Bonner-ish I'm all for it.

If McCall lasts until 14 would anyone consider bringing her in to compete with Burdick and Raincock-Ekunwe for a 5th post spot?

We're over flowing at shooting/combo guard but I still like Epps. Is Epps or Sykes any better than say Alston or Barbee? And could any of them break through the log jam at that position?

How does Romero, Jankoska and Allen compare to B Boyd and Hartley, any chance one of them could be a better option at back up PG for NY?


I guess I'm somewhere in-between Myrtle and Queenie when it comes to Cooper. I think she fits as a 3/4 versatile backup, giving you a bigger, stronger alternative to Bec Allen at 3 while providing you with a quicker 4 option over Zahui B, Vaughn or even Stokes. She has good athletic ability and is a serviceable 3pt threat, albeit at light volume. On the other hand, I've seen a lot of games where Cooper was invisible or looked mistake prone. For me, it's more of an analytical pick based on athletic ability and fit. I'm not actually a fan of hers. This is similar to my Bulgak recommendation last year.

At #14 in a weak draft, I think you take the best player available who isn't exclusively a SG. I'm with Myrtle when it comes to Nina Davis. Too small for PF -- even smallish for SF -- and not enough perimeter skills to function at 3. Right now, I think Prince is a 1st Round pick. That's how thin the 2/3 pool looks to me. McCall would be fine. She's streaky as hell, but hopefully she can be coached into greater consistency. I go back and forth with Epps. She's not a real PG in terms of vision and passing ability, but her handle looks good enough to be a "lead guard". Epps just seems like a Liberty player in terms of competitiveness. Sykes is a great athlete, but she can only play 2-guard. I also wonder about her in a regular offense without all those TOs created by Syracuse's ball pressure. On a side note, I have the same concerns about Peterson. The other guards you mention are all smallish, and since we're already worried about NY's backcourt being too small defensively, I don't think management will go in that direction... unless there's an instant trade available.



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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_WNBA_draft

Is this draft order on Wikipedia correct? Does anyone know? Or does anyone know where I can find a correct order? Draftsite? There's been SO much movement and fluidity with these picks this year I have lost track of all the trades.

And why can't I find the order with a comprehensive list of the movement leading to which picks have ended up where on WNBA.com? Evil or Very Mad They realize the draft is a month away right?



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BelloFratello wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_WNBA_draft

Is this draft order on Wikipedia correct? Does anyone know? Or does anyone know where I can find a correct order? Draftsite? There's been SO much movement and fluidity with these picks this year I have lost track of all the trades.

And why can't I find the order with a comprehensive list of the movement leading to which picks have ended up where on WNBA.com? Evil or Very Mad They realize the draft is a month away right?


I just went over it yesterday and it appears correct.


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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_WNBA_draft

Is this draft order on Wikipedia correct? Does anyone know? Or does anyone know where I can find a correct order? Draftsite? There's been SO much movement and fluidity with these picks this year I have lost track of all the trades.

And why can't I find the order with a comprehensive list of the movement leading to which picks have ended up where on WNBA.com? Evil or Very Mad They realize the draft is a month away right?


Because they suck.

If you look at the footnotes on that Wiki page though, the transaction information is there. Not sure which kind soul took the time to put this together but they did a good job.



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sigur3 wrote:
BelloFratello wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_WNBA_draft

Is this draft order on Wikipedia correct? Does anyone know? Or does anyone know where I can find a correct order? Draftsite? There's been SO much movement and fluidity with these picks this year I have lost track of all the trades.

And why can't I find the order with a comprehensive list of the movement leading to which picks have ended up where on WNBA.com? Evil or Very Mad They realize the draft is a month away right?


Because they suck.

If you look at the footnotes on that Wiki page though, the transaction information is there. Not sure which kind soul took the time to put this together but they did a good job.


It's the same Turner Digital company that administers NBA.COM and they probably have very little dedicated resources towards it. The website actually broke during the draft last year which is why we got no pick-by-pick updates. The WNBA as an organization seems to have decided that social media is for marketing, not accurate data dissemination.


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