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 Posted: 09/27/15 5:12 pm ::: Phoenix Mercury 2016 |
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| With bitter ending to the 2015 season and DT coming back, the Mercury should be poised for another serious title run.[/i]
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| Posted: 09/27/15 8:23 pm ::: |
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| Phoenix losing by 1 point might haunt them for a while It will be interesting to see what changes will come now
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| Posted: 09/27/15 8:49 pm ::: |
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| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted?
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| Posted: 09/27/15 10:54 pm ::: |
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Quinn & Christon are gone. The questionable players are Xargay & Francis if they show up. But full potential for 2016 would be:
PG: Taurasi/Xargay/Mitchell
SG: Bonner/draft pick
SF: Taylor/Currie
PF: Dupree/Bass
C: Griner/Francis/Harrison
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| Posted: 09/28/15 1:52 am ::: |
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Extremely early 2016 Roster prediction:
PG: Taurasi, Mitchell
SG: Taylor, Xargay
SF: Bonner, Currie
PF: Dupree, Bass
C: Griner, Harrison, Francis
Very preliminary and speculative.
Seven guaranteed (4 or 5 spots open): Taurasi, Taylor, Bonner, Dupree, Griner, Currie, Harrison.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 3:04 am ::: |
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If Xargay is willing to play then I would guess that she is in.
Mitchell wouldn't be cheap, and the one major need she fills - outside shooting - is fixed up if DT & PT return anyway.
Francis could have a tough time holding onto her spot. Her minutes declined over the season to the point where she wasn't even given a chance in the last game. Not a good sign for her.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 7:09 am ::: |
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| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 8:31 am ::: |
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| If I'm Phoenix, I would invest in and develop Harden. I like her game.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 8:35 am ::: |
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If Xargay is willing to play then I would guess that she is in.
Mitchell wouldn't be cheap, and the one major need she fills - outside shooting - is fixed up if DT & PT return anyway.
Francis could have a tough time holding onto her spot. Her minutes declined over the season to the point where she wasn't even given a chance in the last game. Not a good sign for her. |
I don't get not playing Cayla in this game where we struggled to score at times, and she really hustles when she is in.
Is Cayla an Olympic candidate? That would give everyone a good excuse for her not to be on the team next season....she's training in Australia!
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| Posted: 09/28/15 9:11 am ::: |
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If Xargay is willing to play then I would guess that she is in.
Mitchell wouldn't be cheap, and the one major need she fills - outside shooting - is fixed up if DT & PT return anyway.
Francis could have a tough time holding onto her spot. Her minutes declined over the season to the point where she wasn't even given a chance in the last game. Not a good sign for her. |
I don't get not playing Cayla in this game where we struggled to score at times, and she really hustles when she is in.
Is Cayla an Olympic candidate? That would give everyone a good excuse for her not to be on the team next season....she's training in Australia! |
Yeah, she is a lock for the Opals.
Will be interesting to see what happens with the WNBA aussies next year.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 9:24 am ::: |
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| Shades wrote: |
| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. Although if Mitchell, Francis, Xargay all have national team obligations and decide not to return, there still might room for Quinn.
Currie seems to be the biggest keeper of this year's new group. Not much of a game changer but definitely was better than I expected.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 11:23 am ::: |
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"But I can tell you this - a lot of the girls have told me that they're probably going to sit out the WNBA to give themselves the best shot at playing for Australia.
"I won't go into names, but there've been a few girls that have said to me they're going to take a year off in the WNBA to solely focus on making the team to go to the Olympic Games."
Joyce insisted there was no pressure from him to make such a commitment, saying he was happy for them to play in the US.
"It's something I haven't stressed because I think it created some real pressure on players staying out of the WNBA for the 2012 London Olympics," he added.
"It makes me feel good about the fact that they're proud to make a commitment to play for the green and gold. It really is special and we, as Australians, value that.
"It doesn't mean that if they go to the WNBA they don't value it, but I think it's more about most of the girls that haven't been to an Olympic Games realise they've probably got to do that to make the team." |
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| Posted: 09/28/15 5:09 pm ::: |
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| Phoenix losing by 1 point might haunt them for a while It will be interesting to see what changes will come now |
Losing by 1 point isn't what will haunt them, losing due to a BS call is what will haunt them. The league needs to call back that game and have a do over(I know that won't happen).
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| Posted: 09/28/15 10:26 pm ::: |
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| caune wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. Although if Mitchell, Francis, Xargay all have national team obligations and decide not to return, there still might room for Quinn.
Currie seems to be the biggest keeper of this year's new group. Not much of a game changer but definitely was better than I expected. |
But the refs decided the game. Quinn will likely be gone next season BUT it's not because of that turnover. Currie, Francis, and Mitchell are the three keepers from the new bunch.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 11:10 pm ::: |
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| SCook wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| caune wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. Although if Mitchell, Francis, Xargay all have national team obligations and decide not to return, there still might room for Quinn.
Currie seems to be the biggest keeper of this year's new group. Not much of a game changer but definitely was better than I expected. |
But the refs decided the game. Quinn will likely be gone next season BUT it's not because of that turnover. Currie, Francis, and Mitchell are the three keepers from the new bunch. |
need a leilani mitchell type player to come off the bench next year not mo.
already have diana, penny and dewanna covering the 2-3 and while diana is great at PG i would rather see her playing more SG
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| Posted: 09/28/15 11:33 pm ::: |
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| LosLynxAngeles wrote: |
| SCook wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| caune wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. Although if Mitchell, Francis, Xargay all have national team obligations and decide not to return, there still might room for Quinn.
Currie seems to be the biggest keeper of this year's new group. Not much of a game changer but definitely was better than I expected. |
But the refs decided the game. Quinn will likely be gone next season BUT it's not because of that turnover. Currie, Francis, and Mitchell are the three keepers from the new bunch. |
need a leilani mitchell type player to come off the bench next year not mo.
already have diana, penny and dewanna covering the 2-3 and while diana is great at PG i would rather see her playing more SG |
I can't see that happening. If you want your best players on court together for most of the time, Taurasi would be the best fit at PG.
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| Posted: 09/28/15 11:40 pm ::: |
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| Shades wrote: |
| LosLynxAngeles wrote: |
| SCook wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| caune wrote: |
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| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. Although if Mitchell, Francis, Xargay all have national team obligations and decide not to return, there still might room for Quinn.
Currie seems to be the biggest keeper of this year's new group. Not much of a game changer but definitely was better than I expected. |
But the refs decided the game. Quinn will likely be gone next season BUT it's not because of that turnover. Currie, Francis, and Mitchell are the three keepers from the new bunch. |
need a leilani mitchell type player to come off the bench next year not mo.
already have diana, penny and dewanna covering the 2-3 and while diana is great at PG i would rather see her playing more SG |
I can't see that happening. If you want your best players on court together for most of the time, Taurasi would be the best fit at PG. |
im referring to Lelani being the erin phillips of 2013.. playing the minutes at pg that diana wasn't..
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| Posted: 09/29/15 7:43 am ::: |
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| LosLynxAngeles wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| LosLynxAngeles wrote: |
| SCook wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| caune wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. Although if Mitchell, Francis, Xargay all have national team obligations and decide not to return, there still might room for Quinn.
Currie seems to be the biggest keeper of this year's new group. Not much of a game changer but definitely was better than I expected. |
But the refs decided the game. Quinn will likely be gone next season BUT it's not because of that turnover. Currie, Francis, and Mitchell are the three keepers from the new bunch. |
need a leilani mitchell type player to come off the bench next year not mo.
already have diana, penny and dewanna covering the 2-3 and while diana is great at PG i would rather see her playing more SG |
I can't see that happening. If you want your best players on court together for most of the time, Taurasi would be the best fit at PG. |
im referring to Lelani being the erin phillips of 2013.. playing the minutes at pg that diana wasn't.. |
I agree. That's what I had in mind. Leilani comes off the bench for DT, for rest or foul trouble, Mo comes off the bench for PFT or DB, Francis for Pree, and Harrison for BG. That's a nice second unit.
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| Posted: 09/29/15 10:03 am ::: |
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Just a point: The refs did not decide the game. There was a bad call made at a critical moment, but Phoenix went 12 of 17 from the free throw line. It's just as logical to say the five missed free throws decided the game, or the missed layup in the first quarter, or the 10 more rebounds Minnesota got.
It isn't a two-second game; it's 40 minutes, and two points in the second quarter count just as much as two points in the last minute.
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| Posted: 09/29/15 4:03 pm ::: |
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| Question- I read earlier that Griner was to have another court appearence on Sept 23 re the divorice proceedings. I haven't seen anything about what happened. Did she get the divorice or was the date changed, anyone know. Won't she be leaving for Russia soon.
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| Posted: 09/29/15 7:21 pm ::: |
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Just a point: The refs did not decide the game. There was a bad call made at a critical moment, but Phoenix went 12 of 17 from the free throw line. It's just as logical to say the five missed free throws decided the game, or the missed layup in the first quarter, or the 10 more rebounds Minnesota got.
It isn't a two-second game; it's 40 minutes, and two points in the second quarter count just as much as two points in the last minute. |
Of course they decided the game.
Regardless of whatever happened prior to that, the game was in the balance at that moment, and they made a decision that the players would be unable to overcome in the time that was left in the game. That makes it a different situation than the same blunder occurring in the first quarter.
Do you really believe that the way players play the game, and the way coaches coach it, does not vary depending on the state of the game at the time? eg. I don't recall too many successful shots in the first quarter being referred to as "a dagger", and there's a pretty obvious reason for that.
Also, personally I am glad that the league came out and said that the call was a fuck up. Fuckups happen. That's just sport when officiated by humans. But I think it's good that they acknowledged this one. It needed to be addressed IMO.
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| Posted: 09/30/15 7:58 am ::: |
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| Shades wrote: |
| caune wrote: |
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| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. . |
So not the case. My point was that the turnover would or should not be the reason she isn't on the team next year. IF she's not on the team it's simply because we have no room for her!
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| Posted: 09/30/15 8:38 am ::: |
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| caune wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| caune wrote: |
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| Will PHX be under heavy pressure to make sure Quinn is one of players subtracted? |
??? Because the ref sucks we should be mad at Noie? LOL, it doesn't work that way. |
The refs didn't create the turnover.
You seem to be the only one against the notion of Quinn not coming back. . |
So not the case. My point was that the turnover would or should not be the reason she isn't on the team next year. IF she's not on the team it's simply because we have no room for her! |
I'm not saying it should be the sole reason she doesn't come back. Its just the kicker if you were on the fence about her. Currie and Xargay were better throughout the season, and it looks like at least three players will have to go from this year's team.... Bias, Harden (might give her a fair chance to develop), and who else? National team obligations might be determining Quinn's fate, but with the old team coming back together, might as well have a couple developmental players on the bench instead of a more expensive player ramming her head against her ceiling.
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Phoenix will add Taurasi,Taylor and Harrison,they'll be just fine.
a decent rebounding 4/5 player.