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[beknighted]

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Some Tennessee legislators were are not amused:

"State Rep. Bill Dunn, R-Knoxville, said he thought the suggestion was a joke.

"And then I found out it was true, at which point I thought, ‘Are we really paying somebody to come up with this stuff?' " he said.

Dunn, a graduate of UT, said he would rather see public money spent on other academic areas such as math or technology. The Pride Center is fiscally supported by the state school.

"I just think that when people pay their taxes, they would rather have it go to a university so that people can learn something," Dunn said Friday. "Not be brainwashed into some gobbledygook."

State Sen. Frank Niceley, R-Strawberry Plains, posted on Facebook: "It seems to me the biggest lack of diversity we have at the University of Tennessee is people of common sense. Apparently, this is what happens when the decision is made that no one from Tennessee is smart enough to run our university."

In a phone interview with the News Sentinel, Niceley said, "Maybe we ought to go back to ‘thee' and ‘thou' for everybody and that'll take care of it."

State Sen. Paul Bailey, R-Sparta, wrote on Facebook: "First it was eliminating the Lady Vols. Now this? I doubt if parents spending over $15,000 a year expect this kind of nonsense education from the University of Tennessee. My advice would be find something better and more productive to do."

[jammerbirdi]

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[jammerbirdi]

Exactly. People have had enough. Hello backlash. Disco sucks x a thousand. Better start hoping Donald Trump is at heart a benevolent man who really wants to make America great again because if he's not for the next five years he's going to make Nixon look like Abe Lincoln.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.� - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[norwester]

The Pride Center or whatever is a good thing. The fact that they came up with a policy that doesn't make total sense doesn't negate the importance of having these resources on college campuses. Particularly in light of the serious risks for suicide, depression, being victimized by bullying, assault and rape that gay/other/queer/LGBTQIA, etc. students experience.

I'm just saying, the amount of resources going to this center are important. Tax dollars or what have you. And in the scheme of things, the amount of time that went into this policy is probably a fraction of whatever that director does each day/week/month. The work, the support, they are important for a vulnerable population of students.

I mean, maybe I just see a lot of that because my sister-in-law is the "head gay" at a major metropolitan US university, and I glean some of these things from her. She works hard. The needs of "her students" are many. And in that context, any backlash against the Pride Center as a result of a policy like this is unwarranted.

Which means it will undoubtedly be mighty.

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[PUmatty]

Some people need to learn to read.

This is not a policy and it doesn't require anything. It a 400-word piece on a website with some suggestions that might make some students feel more comfortable, by the person whose job it is to advocate for those students. It may seems sort of silly, but there is no requirement whatsoever. I bet very people even at the university had even seen this before the media started talking about it.

[hyperetic]

@Jammer and @Pilight

So is it you all's contention that everyone should have the right to say what they want, when they want, how they want, no matter what?

If not, then when are times they can't? What would be unacceptable but not under the political correctness label?

If everyone should have that type of rights, why do we have rules on Rebkell about what posters can post and how they interact with other posters?

If its not political correctness (or just good manners), what would you call it?

Would the terminology be more palatable if it were "common courtesy"/"common decency"/"good manners" rather than "political correctness"?

In my life experience, its been a lot easier not to be offended by things that don't relate to me personally. But I was/am empathetic enough to learn when I do find it is offensive to others. To ignore it after learning would be insensitive, would it not? Hell, I don't even tell blond jokes anymore.

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[Howee]

I dunno....call me Old Fashioned but, REALLY? If pronouns are The Biggest Challenge in your life, then....you're already in a kind of trouble that pronoun modification isn't gonna help much. And if someone's (mis-)usage of a pronoun can even set you back some, you might wanna re-evaluate what it is to be human.

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[jammerbirdi]

[pilight]

[cthskzfn]

does this qualify as PC bs?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/world/auschwitz-holocaust-showers/


Offended Jewish visitors over the weekend likened the misting stations to the "showers" used to exterminate members of their faith at the camp during World War II, Israeli media reported.

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[norwester]

[cthskzfn]

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[jammerbirdi]

well my monstrously fast cable modem Internet is today just, I don't know. Monstrous. So I'm reduced and defeated down to iPhone and cell service.

First. If those camps aren't physically and administratively completely under the control of the Jewish people then I don't even know what to say about that. I would have assumed they were had I ever thought about it. Perhaps their participation and consultation in all matters relating to the camps has been to a degree that the presentation of the history and really every last detail are and have been completely sensitive to the perspective of the Jewish people.

So I don't know what's going on there with that situation. Turn the camps over to the Jewish people entirely. How that wouldn't have happened decades ago is frankly, to me, shocking.

As far as blonde/blond jokes... blonde jokes are funnier. But seriously. I thought blondes were the dumb blonde joke. Okay now I'm really being serious. I can't recall any actual dumb blonde jokes and I find the whole idea that hair color being attached to a dumb person could ever be taken seriously enough to hurt somebody's widdle feewins kind of just ... I don't know... dumb.

I'm sorry... there's an evil in me today.


but.. When you place it all into the unfunny context that blonde and blue eyed babies are really considered the gold standard top of the human class gene pool... is this really an issue?

And as far as gender specific attacks on intelligence, how about dumb lug, big ape, etc.

Look let's take men for a second. Some men can cut into a living human brain and remove disease. Some men are dumb lugs. It's reality and people will make jokes about it.

Likewise, some women can cut into a living human brain and remove disease. Just not the blonde ones.

But then again, I'm half a Pollack. Which means I'm not really sure how to spell Pollack and that even though my father's family is Polish and I'm half, I remember buying a book of Dumb Pollack jokes at Spencer's Gifts, I think, when I was a kid.

As far as Rebkell's goes, with a great respect for the pre-PC definition of free speech, which is to say, free speech that could get you into trouble and lose you friends (LIKE THIS POST!!!) we just try to allow for an environment where people can voice opinions without being verbally (well, in writing) abused or attacked. Which is something, that if not checked and stopped at every instance, very very quickly spreads and becomes the new lower standard of treatment and behavior and respect and then becomes a mother bear to deal with.

And if you don't deal with it, you don't have Rebkell's and the quality of people and conversation that visit here.

norwester, my mom was blonde my entire life. she only had a first grade education left school to pick cotton for 50 cents a day, and as a blonde she became the owner of three beauty shops, a health inspector for the state of Pennsylvania, and a founder and first president of the Democratic Women of Beaver County. I never got the whole dumb blonde thing. Hard to take jokes seriously when you've grown up in an environment and time when a joke was a joke and you made them about your own kind.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.� - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[scullyfu]

WOW, jammer. your mom sounds like a movie waiting to happen. seriously though, what a great testament she is to what we call the human spirit, given a chance she ran with it and made a better life for herself and her family. now she's a true hero!

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[jammerbirdi]

Thank you, Scully. That's very sweet. She was a firecracker.

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.� - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[norwester]

Yeah. Your mom sounds great!

My feelings don't get hurt when I hear a blonde joke. I know I'm not dumb. If others seem to think so, then that's their mistake.

It's more the overall cultural insensitivity. Why is it only a dumb blonde woman? Why is that the stereotype? Individual men being called dumb lugs, big hairy apes, etc. That's some men. And even they may be good for something. Versus all blondes. Who besides appearance are no more useful than a blow-up doll. That's the hidden subtext. Do you see the distinction? (read in Alicia Silverstone-as-Cher voice).

Generally if a woman performs a certain way: all women are __________. If a man does, that man is ________. I didn't make the rules. But I try to point them out to those who don't live that reality.

I've told plenty of blonde jokes in my time. But I don't anymore because when I grew up, I realized the misogyny inherent in it. That's all. Maybe my cringe when I hear them is more embarrassment that the teller hasn't also grown up?

I do want to point out one thing additional I thought about the above, you can describe some men a certain way, but for instance, if you described a black man that way, you'd probably be called a racist. It becomes picking on and stereotyping a marginalize population. Interesting.

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[mercfan3]

[jammerbirdi]

I really meant to type Polack. Ah the best laid plans...

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Every woman who has ever been presented with a career/sex quid pro quo in the entertainment industry should come forward and simply say, “Me, too.� - jammer The New York Times 10/10/17

[norwester]