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stever
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Posted: 02/25/15 1:10 pm ::: |
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Do people really think Logic has any more pro upside than Lindsey Moore, for example? |
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Shades
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Posted: 02/25/15 1:14 pm ::: |
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Do people really think Logic has any more pro upside than Lindsey Moore, for example? |
Maybe.....she seems a bit tougher.
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root_thing
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Posted: 02/25/15 1:37 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
stever wrote: |
Do people really think Logic has any more pro upside than Lindsey Moore, for example? |
Maybe.....she seems a bit tougher. |
I agree. Moore used to look a little intimidated when she was pressured by teams with athletic players. Logic just seems to get pissed-off when you steal the ball from her. Next possession, she tries to get revenge.
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sigur3
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Posted: 02/25/15 1:42 pm ::: |
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Logic's court vision is far superior to Moore's...
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blaase22
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Posted: 02/25/15 4:47 pm ::: |
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sigur3 wrote: |
Logic's court vision is far superior to Moore's... |
Plus doesnt logic have experience playing with the best players on USA under 21 team?
I also think she's better defensively, although still needs work.
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stever
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Posted: 02/26/15 10:09 am ::: |
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Crystal Bradford passed 2,000 pts. last night in another loss for CMU.
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A silver lining to the night was the impressive performance from Bradford who played in her second game since being sidelined with a knee injury for three consecutive contests.
Bradford exceeded the 2,000-point career milestone by finishing with 19 points on 7-for-15 shooting from the floor, including a 3-of-7 performance from three-point territory. She also had six rebounds.
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“I think (Bradford) is getting herself back in shape,” coach Sue Guevara said. “She still isn’t moving as well as she was (before her injury), but that’s just going to come with time.
“Scoring 2,000 points doesn’t come often at this level and it’s a special thing to do. With (Bradford), nobody is surprised she did it because we all know of her ability to score the basketball.
“What makes her even more special is that she’s also great in other areas outside of scoring. She’s either leading or ranking high in numerous (statistical) categories. |
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Shades
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Posted: 02/26/15 11:30 am ::: |
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Thanks, Stever. Glad to hear that Bradford's knee doesn't appear to be a serious problem. I know she probably won't get the benefit of the NCAA Tourney exposure, but I still think in this draft she should be the top guard taken. If a team is wanting more of a lead guard, then maybe Logic could be the top guard. Boyd could be good but she seems more like a tradtional college PG which have a hard time making it in the WNBA. If Harding can't keep a job after 8 years experience, what should you expect from Boyd?
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myrtle
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Posted: 02/26/15 12:29 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Thanks, Stever. Glad to hear that Bradford's knee doesn't appear to be a serious problem. I know she probably won't get the benefit of the NCAA Tourney exposure, but I still think in this draft she should be the top guard taken. If a team is wanting more of a lead guard, then maybe Logic could be the top guard. Boyd could be good but she seems more like a tradtional college PG which have a hard time making it in the WNBA. If Harding can't keep a job after 8 years experience, what should you expect from Boyd? |
Harding is actually an interesting comparison with Boyd though I know that's not exactly what you meant. Harding did keep a job for 8 years...and very well could end up on a roster again. Is Boyd as good as Harding? hmm... They are somewhat similar and Boyd has 8 years younger legs and probably at this point has more 'want to'. Both can occasionally shoot but mostly not. Harding has the experience. Boyd is cheaper and tougher and has more potential upside.
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GEF34
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Posted: 02/26/15 5:33 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Boyd could be good but she seems more like a tradtional college PG which have a hard time making it in the WNBA. If Harding can't keep a job after 8 years experience, what should you expect from Boyd? |
Seeing as Lindsey Harding is part of the Belarus National Team now, her getting released from the Sparks could have been a request by her as opposed to the Sparks not wanting her anymore. She is expected to play in EuroBasket Women 2015 which would essentially take her out of WNBA training camps and at least the first part of the June (depending on how far Belarus goes in the tournament).
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Mirage
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Posted: 02/26/15 6:49 pm ::: |
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Harding was terrible last year but even if Harding returned to her form of two years ago, Phillips is a better fit for LA because of her ability to hit the 3. In her best years, Harding was a good player but she was never strong from long-range. And the Sparks were woeful from outside last year.
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sigur3
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Posted: 02/26/15 6:58 pm ::: |
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Harding was terrible last year but even if Harding returned to her form of two years ago, Phillips is a better fit for LA because of her ability to hit the 3. In her best years, Harding was a good player but she was never strong from long-range. And the Sparks were woeful from outside last year. |
Someone gets it!!
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GEF34
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Posted: 02/26/15 7:06 pm ::: |
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sigur3 wrote: |
Mirage wrote: |
Harding was terrible last year but even if Harding returned to her form of two years ago, Phillips is a better fit for LA because of her ability to hit the 3. In her best years, Harding was a good player but she was never strong from long-range. And the Sparks were woeful from outside last year. |
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What is the "it" you speak up. What Mirage has said in their post is correct, but I haven't seen anyone really post anything that contradicts what Mirage has said. I have seen post where people thought she could be a good fit for other teams.
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UofDel_Alum
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Posted: 02/27/15 10:31 am ::: |
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Someone please explain how two players from California , Boyd and Gray, will probablyl be in the top ten players selected in the WNBA draft and California is not one of the top 20 teams in the nation. |
The same way Tayler Hill was selected #4 in the 2013 draft despite Ohio State not making the NCAA tournament her senior year. Boyd and Gray were known before this season so they are strong prospects regardless of team success. |
Cal is 20-7 and 12-4 in conference not great but certainly respectable I won't be shocked if Cal get to the sweet 16
Wake forest is 10-18 and 1-13 in conference yet Hamby is most likely going top 5
This draft is weird |
Well looks like the top 20 teams are going to change. OSU #7 was upset by #19 Stanford. With Cal defeating Stanford this week looks like they will be in the top 20 teams.
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GEF34
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Posted: 02/27/15 3:54 pm ::: |
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UofDel_Alum wrote: |
J-Spoon wrote: |
mavcarter wrote: |
UofDel_Alum wrote: |
Someone please explain how two players from California , Boyd and Gray, will probablyl be in the top ten players selected in the WNBA draft and California is not one of the top 20 teams in the nation. |
The same way Tayler Hill was selected #4 in the 2013 draft despite Ohio State not making the NCAA tournament her senior year. Boyd and Gray were known before this season so they are strong prospects regardless of team success. |
Cal is 20-7 and 12-4 in conference not great but certainly respectable I won't be shocked if Cal get to the sweet 16
Wake forest is 10-18 and 1-13 in conference yet Hamby is most likely going top 5
This draft is weird |
Well looks like the top 20 teams are going to change. OSU #7 was upset by #19 Stanford. With Cal defeating Stanford this week looks like they will be in the top 20 teams. |
Since Cal and Stanford split, I think Cal will need to beat Oregon State and get to at least the semifinals of the Pac-12 Tournament to be considered for a top 20 seed. If Cal loses to Oregon State I can't see them passing Stanford or at least getting into the top 20. (Of course that is also dependent on the other teams in the top 20 and how the rest of their seasons go)
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Shades
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Posted: 02/27/15 4:34 pm ::: |
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College Hoops Highlights: Senior Spotlight on South Carolina's Aleighsa Welch
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Flying under the radar on a roster that seems to have an overflow of talent, Welch has established herself as the motor of the team. Her contributions on the court are highlighted by her efficient interior scoring, offensive rebounding and defensive prowess. Yet, what is most impressive is how she consistently delivers in the biggest moments, which works in tandem with her infectious leadership ability. |
http://www.wnba.com/news/college_hoops_highlights_welch_2015_02_26.html
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myrtle
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Posted: 02/27/15 7:00 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
College Hoops Highlights: Senior Spotlight on South Carolina's Aleighsa Welch
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Flying under the radar on a roster that seems to have an overflow of talent, Welch has established herself as the motor of the team. Her contributions on the court are highlighted by her efficient interior scoring, offensive rebounding and defensive prowess. Yet, what is most impressive is how she consistently delivers in the biggest moments, which works in tandem with her infectious leadership ability. |
http://www.wnba.com/news/college_hoops_highlights_welch_2015_02_26.html |
I know Sophia is out of favor these days but the player Welch mosts reminds me of coming out of college is Sophia Young. I haven't thought (and still need convincing) Welch was a good pro prospect, but then I didn't think Sophia was either. Like Aleighsa, Sophia was undersized, had a nose for a rebound, and had no range coming out of college... but worked hard on improving her shot. Obviously Welch has the intangibles, it's just that the success rate for tweeners with no shot is pretty low.
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calbearman76
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Posted: 02/28/15 3:14 am ::: |
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UofDel_Alum wrote: |
Someone please explain how two players from California , Boyd and Gray, will probablyl be in the top ten players selected in the WNBA draft and California is not one of the top 20 teams in the nation. |
Cal is a very young team with little depth. They only have six players that get significant minutes including two freshmen and two sophomores. One of them, Courtney Range, was injured in a loss against Kansas. The team lost the next two games at Long Beach St (in OT) and against Louisville to tumble out of the top 25.
Reshanda Gray is still improving and could easily be a starter in the WNBA. She still needs to work on her defense and cut down on fouls. She should be a top 5 pick.
Brittany Boyd has speed and tenacity and is a bit taller than Lindsey Harding. She is an electric player and plays good defense but needs to be more disciplined. Her shooting is not up to WNBA standards. If she improves her shooting she could become a starter, but right now she looks like a late first round pick.
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UofDel_Alum
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Posted: 02/28/15 5:26 am ::: |
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calbearman76 wrote: |
UofDel_Alum wrote: |
Someone please explain how two players from California , Boyd and Gray, will probablyl be in the top ten players selected in the WNBA draft and California is not one of the top 20 teams in the nation. |
Cal is a very young team with little depth. They only have six players that get significant minutes including two freshmen and two sophomores. One of them, Courtney Range, was injured in a loss against Kansas. The team lost the next two games at Long Beach St (in OT) and against Louisville to tumble out of the top 25.
Reshanda Gray is still improving and could easily be a starter in the WNBA. She still needs to work on her defense and cut down on fouls. She should be a top 5 pick.
Brittany Boyd has speed and tenacity and is a bit taller than Lindsey Harding. She is an electric player and plays good defense but needs to be more disciplined. Her shooting is not up to WNBA standards. If she improves her shooting she could become a starter, but right now she looks like a late first round pick. |
Thankyou calbearman76
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Shades
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Posted: 02/28/15 11:14 am ::: |
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She still needs to work on her defense and cut down on fouls. She should be a top 5 pick. |
Cal relied on Gray's defense to secure the win in the first round of the NCAA Tourney last year.
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Posted: 03/01/15 12:10 pm ::: |
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Is this the first year since maybe 2009?? that the first pick in the draft was not almost certainly known? Tina, Maya, Nneka, Britney and Chiney would basically 99%. I could honestly not tell you if Seattle will take Williams or KML.
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Posted: 03/01/15 1:30 pm ::: |
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LosLynxAngeles wrote: |
Is this the first year since maybe 2009?? that the first pick in the draft was not almost certainly known? Tina, Maya, Nneka, Britney and Chiney would basically 99%. I could honestly not tell you if Seattle will take Williams or KML. |
I don't think Chiney was a 100% sure thing last year. There was some speculation that Sims might go #1.
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myrtle
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Posted: 03/03/15 7:38 pm ::: |
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Has anyone seen Kiesel from Pitt? She has been statistically quite good all year even against good teams, but I know nothing about her.
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