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PostPosted: 11/25/13 4:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Jeff Walz showed some love for Natasha howard (FSU) after their game today.

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"Natasha Howard fouled out and that's a big difference. She is a special player. There's no doubt that she will be a top five pick in the draft in April or May. She has 13 points and 14 boards and nine of them are offensive. She's something else. I wasn't pleased with our mental approach.


So did S.Schimmel...
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In overtime they did not have Natasha Howard, and it benefited us."


I think Walz is just looking for reasons his Top 5 team played so poorly. I'll track her stats, but there's nothing that screams "lottery" to me. Over Dolson or Gray?


He said it a few days b4 the game as well (I didnt say I agreed, although I do think she goes top10).

If you base her stock just off stats then no. She has to do a better job of staying out of foul trouble to average more than 24mins and cut down on To's. Hopefully FSU has a good season and she can prove herself throughout the year.

Over Dolson-Yes, Gray- Probably Not.


Howard would have to have a heluva season to get drafted ahead of Dolson.
Not only is Dolson in the best club for producing WNBA players, she's going up against the best competition and still producing. She's versatile: 31 assists in 7 games compared to Howard's 2 in 4 games. She can extend the defense. In my mind, it's not even close. At this point, I don't see Dolson dropping below #6, and Howard's not cracking that territory.
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Natasha Howard could be a good fit for the Silver stars.
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I think Howard is someone to watch this season in the sense that after Ogwumike, and Thomas (if she is considered a post), and Dolson there is no clear next best post option. I haven't seen that much of her but she looks like a WNBA player to me.


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Howard is a WNBA player if she can play the four. She's not at Dolson's level, especially considering how good a passer Dolson is -- a post who can move the ball is incredibly valuable as it stretches the defense in a lot of ways.

And I haven't been that excited about Liston, but if she can make 43% of her threes at the WNBA level, she'll find a home, quickness deficit or not.



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Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun


And to harp on this a little bit more, why would you take a player who has the ceiling of role player #2?



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Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun


And to harp on this a little bit more, why would you take a player who has the ceiling of role player #2?


I don't think I'd pick her #2 either, but why is role player her ceiling?
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I've been hot and cold on Dolson, but her stock has to be at an all time high right now. She's a true 6'5 and she played at uconn, if she is taken by the stars I give her 2 seasons before she's starting over Appel.
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Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun


And to harp on this a little bit more, why would you take a player who has the ceiling of role player #2?


I don't think I'd pick her #2 either, but why is role player her ceiling?


Before this season she had a career average of 11.4 PPG. While this may not be a good indicator of how good she will ultimately turn out, players that weren't scorers in college have a bit of a hard time becoming good or even very good.

The school she attends will probably play a bigger role in where she gets drafted as opposed to on the court play.

She has a good IQ, can pass, and like you said can stretch the defense. She seems like a nice pick anywhere from #6-12, but taking her in the lottery might be a bit of stretch. Especially top 2.



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She's a true 6'5 and she played at uconn, if she is taken by the stars I give her 2 seasons before she's starting over Appel.


Right, because 6'5 UConn players have always turned into such big stars...



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PostPosted: 11/26/13 7:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun


And to harp on this a little bit more, why would you take a player who has the ceiling of role player #2?


I don't think I'd pick her #2 either, but why is role player her ceiling?


Before this season she had a career average of 11.4 PPG. While this may not be a good indicator of how good she will ultimately turn out, players that weren't scorers in college have a bit of a hard time becoming good or even very good.

The school she attends will probably play a bigger role in where she gets drafted as opposed to on the court play.

She has a good IQ, can pass, and like you said can stretch the defense. She seems like a nice pick anywhere from #6-12, but taking her in the lottery might be a bit of stretch. Especially top 2.


Do you consider McCarville a role player, even though she was the starting center for a WNBA Championship team?

She was able to become the #1 pick on a career 14.6 ppg, and she was a little more a focus of the offense than Dolson needs to be.

I'm sure Reeve would love if Dolson dropped to #12. Razz
Clay says Banham won't go in the Top 10 in 2015, so the Lynx are looking to have nice drafts the next couple of years.

I think it's time for Snow to retire from the WNBA. I see Dolson as a good fit in WAS. I don't think they'll be going SG for the top pick two years in a row.

I say Dolson top half of the first round...you say bottom. Let's see what happens.


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Do you consider McCarville a role player, even though she was the starting center for a WNBA Championship team?


Yes, I do. There's nothing wrong with being a McCarville type player, but I don't know why a GM would want that in the lottery unless they have an established front court.

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She was able to become the #1 pick on a career 14.6 ppg, and she was a little more a focus of the offense than Dolson needs to be.


2005 was a very weak draft. I'm not as high on this year's as others but I think it's better.



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2005 was a very weak draft. I'm not as high on this year's as others but I think it's better.


Wasn't my fav year, but some steady WNBA players have come out of 2005.

2. Tan White
5. Sancho Lyttle
6. Temeka Johnson
7. Kara Braxton
12. Tanisha Wright
15. Roneeka Hodges
21. Erin Phillips
27. Catherine Kraayeveld

9 players still in the league after 9 years.
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2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.



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2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


Kinda like...this year? Very Happy
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Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


Kinda like...this year? Very Happy


But the one star player in this year's draft is pretty good. Very Happy


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pilight wrote:
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2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


Kinda like...this year? Very Happy


But the one star player in this year's draft is pretty good. Very Happy



Some people have been saying its too early too declare a clear number one pick. I guess you're not one of those people.
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Shades wrote:
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Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
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2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


Kinda like...this year? Very Happy


But the one star player in this year's draft is pretty good. Very Happy



Some people have been saying its too early too declare a clear number one pick. I guess you're not one of those people.


Ah snap, I thought you meant "2013" by "this year", not 2014. Very Happy


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Shades wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


Kinda like...this year? Very Happy


But the one star player in this year's draft is pretty good. Very Happy



Some people have been saying its too early too declare a clear number one pick. I guess you're not one of those people.


Ah snap, I thought you meant "2013" by "this year", not 2014. Very Happy


No, I meant 2014. 2013 had the Three to See, not just one.
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pilight wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


You're right, very weak was a poor choice of words.



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Shades wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
SpaceJunkie wrote:
Shades wrote:
pilight wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
2005 was a very weak draft.


2005 was light on star power but it was very deep.


Kinda like...this year? Very Happy


But the one star player in this year's draft is pretty good. Very Happy



Some people have been saying its too early too declare a clear number one pick. I guess you're not one of those people.


Ah snap, I thought you meant "2013" by "this year", not 2014. Very Happy


No, I meant 2014. 2013 had the Three to See, not just one.


I thought it was a joke because Diggins didn't do much, and you're not a big Phoenix fan. Smile


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Every year (almost) someone falls below the first round and outshines a lot of players drafter ahead of her:

2013 - Bentley
2012 - Hayes and R. Williams
2011 - Danielle Adams
2010 - Hightower
2009 - ?
2008 - Mitchell

So rather than trying to figure out the draft order, who will be the player that falls too far in the 2014 draft? Who will be Ms. Overlooked 2014?


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Every year (almost) someone falls below the first round and outshines a lot of players drafter ahead of her:

2013 - Bentley
2012 - Hayes and R. Williams
2011 - Danielle Adams
2010 - Hightower
2009 - ?
2008 - Mitchell

So rather than trying to figure out the draft order, who will be the player that falls too far in the 2014 draft? Who will be Ms. Overlooked 2014?


Don't forget Angel Goodrich this year too!

It's really hard to tell how a SG will make the transition, so it could be someone like Ellenberg, Schimmel, Fussell, or Simmons...or maybe someone like Coley or Newsome for real underdogs. I think it will be difficult to predict how any of them will actually do...and it also depends on where they go. Three or four of them will be total washouts, but which one(s) will succeed. I kind of like Ellenberg but it's very, very hard to tell...


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Randy wrote:
Every year (almost) someone falls below the first round and outshines a lot of players drafter ahead of her:

2013 - Bentley
2012 - Hayes and R. Williams
2011 - Danielle Adams
2010 - Hightower
2009 - ?
2008 - Mitchell

So rather than trying to figure out the draft order, who will be the player that falls too far in the 2014 draft? Who will be Ms. Overlooked 2014?


I'm not very familiar with these players but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say Bias or Foggie. (Ellenberg would be my other guess, but Myrtle already threw it out there and I've seen her described to often by others as "undersized" and "volume scorer" to feel confident about that prediction, though I like her.)


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Every year (almost) someone falls below the first round and outshines a lot of players drafter ahead of her:

2013 - Bentley
2012 - Hayes and R. Williams
2011 - Danielle Adams
2010 - Hightower
2009 - ?
2008 - Mitchell

So rather than trying to figure out the draft order, who will be the player that falls too far in the 2014 draft? Who will be Ms. Overlooked 2014?


Don't forget Angel Goodrich this year too!

It's really hard to tell how a SG will make the transition, so it could be someone like Ellenberg, Schimmel, Fussell, or Simmons...or maybe someone like Coley or Newsome for real underdogs. I think it will be difficult to predict how any of them will actually do...and it also depends on where they go. Three or four of them will be total washouts, but which one(s) will succeed. I kind of like Ellenberg but it's very, very hard to tell...


Yes - Angel definitely should have been on the list!!


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Randy wrote:
myrtle wrote:
Randy wrote:
Every year (almost) someone falls below the first round and outshines a lot of players drafter ahead of her:

2013 - Bentley
2012 - Hayes and R. Williams
2011 - Danielle Adams
2010 - Hightower
2009 - ?
2008 - Mitchell

So rather than trying to figure out the draft order, who will be the player that falls too far in the 2014 draft? Who will be Ms. Overlooked 2014?


Don't forget Angel Goodrich this year too!

It's really hard to tell how a SG will make the transition, so it could be someone like Ellenberg, Schimmel, Fussell, or Simmons...or maybe someone like Coley or Newsome for real underdogs. I think it will be difficult to predict how any of them will actually do...and it also depends on where they go. Three or four of them will be total washouts, but which one(s) will succeed. I kind of like Ellenberg but it's very, very hard to tell...


Yes - Angel definitely should have been on the list!!


It's interesting because the majority of people on this board had Goodrich in the 1st round for most of the year, and then she slipped to the 2nd round right before the draft. Only the GM's had Goodrich as a 3rd rounder. Wink

I agree that the SG's are the hardest to evaluate -- especially the smaller ones. I don't really know the other players that well, but I've seen a lot of Schimmel and Simmons throughout their careers. They're streaky boom or bust players. They can look unstoppable when they're on or be a liability when they're off. I think if you can get a streaky player to adjust to coming off the bench, they can be very valuable. If they're having an off-night, you sit them back down. If they're on, it's like having an All-Star come off your bench -- Riquana Williams is the perfect example. However, the adjustment to playing off the bench is the hardest thing to do for young players who are used to being stars.

Maggie Lucas and Tricia Liston will also be interesting to watch. Is Lucas big enough or quick enough? Does she have enough diversity to her game? Is Liston athletic enough? You never know how GM's are going to weigh athletic ability vs. skill. Personally, Liston is beginning to grow on me. I used to look at that chunky body and the clumsy way that she moves and I'd think to myself, "No way!" But watching her closely, Liston isn't as slow as she looks. And you have to love a great outside shooter who doesn't mind contact and likes taking it to the hoop.


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Looking at the players that have fallen past round 1 but then outperformed its not too hard to see why in some cases - they were either "too small" (Bentley, Goodrich, Mitchell, R. Williams), "too big" (Adams) or had "character issues" (R. Williams.) For Hightower and Hayes its not so obvious (to me, but perhaps others will know) why they fell.

Of course, what is much harder to see is why their liabilities didn't matter. In some cases, (Williams, Goodrich, Hayes, Bentley) it may just have been a case of landing in the right spot where they got a chance to play enough to develop, but didn't have to carry too heavy of a load.


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To me, Hightower just looked awkward and too skinny and not skilled enough coming out of college. But clearly she's a hard worker and I think Mike and/or his staff did great work in developing her.

Hayes just got lost on a uber-talented roster where it was unclear what she could/would do in her own right.


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Of the top five, the one I'm least sure about is Thomas because I just don't know what position she'll play. Is she physical enough to be a four? Is she quick enough and does she have enough perimeter game to be a three?

And I don't think the comparisons to Brunson hold, because before Brunson hurt her knee, she was one of the top two or three leapers in the entire league, and she's very, very athletic. I don't see Thomas in that category, and athleticism will determine if she can play the three (and by the way, Brunson couldn't).

The safe call for Thomas' future position is power forward, but how does she match up, say, with Glory Johnson or Nneka Ogwumike or Brunson? She's more like Swin Cash and Plenette Pierson, it seems to me, but at a similar age, I recall Cash and Pierson being quicker and faster.

All that said, Thomas is a very good player who does everything but block shots. She turns the ball over a lot (137 last year) but she also managed 181 assists so clearly she can do something with the ball.

I just wonder if Chelsea Gray, who's two inches shorter and a point guard, is the more valuable in the long run and though Sims doesn't have the size, she too has a position.


A Thomas played out of position last year at PG due to the starting backcourt for MD being out (ACL injuries). That's the reason for all of those turnovers.


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Looking at the players that have fallen past round 1 but then outperformed its not too hard to see why in some cases - they were either "too small" (Bentley, Goodrich, Mitchell, R. Williams), "too big" (Adams) or had "character issues" (R. Williams.).


I was very, very wrong about both of these. Embarassed



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Looking at the players that have fallen past round 1 but then outperformed its not too hard to see why in some cases - they were either "too small" (Bentley, Goodrich, Mitchell, R. Williams), "too big" (Adams) or had "character issues" (R. Williams.).


I was very, very wrong about both of these. Embarassed


Well, I wanted the Dream to draft Goodrich (my first choice) and Lindsey Moore (remember her?) was my second choice Embarassed , but became a fan of Bentley pretty quickly. Still like Goodrich, though. Smile


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I am going to throw a fantasy pick into the 2014 mock draft. The most talented player in Division One basketball is NOT a senior. If the WNBA were to allow underclassmen to be drafted she would be the Number One pick in 2014 AND 2015. That player is Breanna Stewart of UCONN. Very Happy



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I am going to throw a fantasy pick into the 2014 mock draft. The most talented player in Division One basketball is NOT a senior. If the WNBA were to allow underclassmen to be drafted she would be the Number One pick in 2014 AND 2015. That player is Breanna Stewart of UCONN. Very Happy


Stop with the Stewart-ade. Chiney Ogwumike has already outplayed Stewart in a game this year, hard to say that Stewart would be the no. 1 pick over Gray, Ogwumike, Sims, and heck I'd throw Thomas in there.


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If the WNBA allowed underclassman to be drafted, the Chiney, Gray, etc wold probably already have been drafted. And Stewart would have likely been the No. 1 pick in the 2013 draft.

Of course, the incentive for the players to come out early is only a fraction of that for the men drafted into the NBA. So maybe none of them would go out early.


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Please do not think that I am a UCONN fan just because of what I said about Stewart. I am not a UCONN fan. Stewart's height, wingspan, and skill set is unique. She is just as unique as Brittany Griner. No matter how talented other players might be they could not match Griner physical gifts. The same can be said about Stewart.



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hard to say that Stewart would be the no. 1 pick over Gray, Ogwumike, Sims, and heck I'd throw Thomas in there.


I'm taking Stewart over four of those players, maybe even five..



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I am with you mavcarter, Stewart is the real deal. After this year she will be one of the top five players in college.


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I am going to throw a fantasy pick into the 2014 mock draft. The most talented player in Division One basketball is NOT a senior. If the WNBA were to allow underclassmen to be drafted she would be the Number One pick in 2014 AND 2015. That player is Breanna Stewart of UCONN. Very Happy


Stop with the Stewart-ade. Chiney Ogwumike has already outplayed Stewart in a game this year, hard to say that Stewart would be the no. 1 pick over Gray, Ogwumike, Sims, and heck I'd throw Thomas in there.


Really? Considering Chiney and Stewart had nothing to do with each other on the court, I find that opinion fascinating. Chiney was covering/covered Dolson and Stokes.

Stewart at USA camp, according to all reports, outplayed all of the mentioned attendees against WNBA senior competition.

The kid is special. Even Auriemma says she does things routinely in practice he hasn't had a player do before, and I think he's had some pretty amazing players there.



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hard to say that Stewart would be the no. 1 pick over Gray, Ogwumike, Sims, and heck I'd throw Thomas in there.


I'm taking Stewart over four of those players, maybe even five..


As am I.


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Pimping Stewart in a 2014 draft discussion thread isn't too useful, but it should put the president on tank alert for 2016.
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I clearly see Stewart's athleticism, ability, and potential. But I think she still needs to develop more on offense/creating her own shot. Or maybe I'm just a bigger Delle Donne fan so I'm being biased; but I'd rather have Elena on my team.


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Pimping Stewart in a 2014 draft discussion thread isn't too useful, but it should put the president on tank alert for 2016.


Olympic year - good year for teams with foreign players to tank......


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PostPosted: 12/04/13 5:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Shades wrote:
Pimping Stewart in a 2014 draft discussion thread isn't too useful, but it should put the president on tank alert for 2016.


Olympic year - good year for teams with foreign players to tank......


Stewart to Seattle, yeah that works.

Back to 2014, I would love to hear some opinions on the lesser known players of 2014, who are the next best posts after Ogwumike, Thomas and Dolson? Any PGs out there outside of the top 2 who can make a roster?


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PostPosted: 12/04/13 6:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Other possibilities include Tulsa, Atlanta, DC, Chicago, SA and probably a few others I've forgotten.

The other players I've seen and read discussions about a bit are Achonwa for the big, and Hartley as PG (but maybe really a SG.) Haven't gotten to see ND play this year, but seen UConn at least twice.


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PostPosted: 12/04/13 6:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I clearly see Stewart's athleticism, ability, and potential. But I think she still needs to develop more on offense/creating her own shot. Or maybe I'm just a bigger Delle Donne fan so I'm being biased; but I'd rather have Elena on my team.


IMO Stewie also must get some more muscle on that body to play well consistently at the next level.


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PostPosted: 12/04/13 8:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
Randy wrote:
Shades wrote:
Pimping Stewart in a 2014 draft discussion thread isn't too useful, but it should put the president on tank alert for 2016.


Olympic year - good year for teams with foreign players to tank......


Stewart to Seattle, yeah that works.

Back to 2014, I would love to hear some opinions on the lesser known players of 2014, who are the next best posts after Ogwumike, Thomas and Dolson? Any PGs out there outside of the top 2 who can make a roster?


I see Thomas as an SF.

Dolson, Achonwa.... Walz was talking about Howard as a Top 5 player Confused I need more time to decide on the rest. Your thoughts?

How does 6 guards, 4 posts and 2 SF sound for the first round?
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PostPosted: 12/04/13 10:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Randy wrote:
Shades wrote:
Pimping Stewart in a 2014 draft discussion thread isn't too useful, but it should put the president on tank alert for 2016.


Olympic year - good year for teams with foreign players to tank......


The teams would have to tank in 2015 for the 2016 draft.


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PostPosted: 12/04/13 11:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I introduced Stewart into this discussion because this thread had become a little boring! Laughing I do not understand why people like to put players in a box and say they have to be a small forward or a shooting guard or whatever. The only question that I ask about every college player that I watch is can she BALL! It is either a yes or no answer.
If a player does not have the athleticism, height, and skill set then that player will not make a WNBA team.
How many of you here have played pickup basketball in your neighborhood playgrounds or parks? When you are choosing teammates you pick players that are good. What you do not do is tell person A that she is small forward and person B that she is the center. You just play basketball! You play to win! PERIOD.



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PostPosted: 12/05/13 12:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SpaceJunkie wrote:
Randy wrote:
Shades wrote:
Pimping Stewart in a 2014 draft discussion thread isn't too useful, but it should put the president on tank alert for 2016.


Olympic year - good year for teams with foreign players to tank......


The teams would have to tank in 2015 for the 2016 draft.


I heard Taurasi is trying to grow her wisdom teeth back in time for the 2015 season. Griner will have an unfortunate incident involving bacon or her longboard. Dupree will become pregnant through invitro fertilization. Taylor will still be on rehab. Houston still have a fashion business and will be too busy to take basketball seriously. Bonner will be encouraged to keep on doing what she does (she was instrumental in 2012). Prahalis will be brought back and she will proceed to win all kinds of awards (this will help confuse people on whether they're really tanking). Amber Cox will be brought back to make sure this series of unlikely events is executed to perfection.
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PostPosted: 12/05/13 1:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rock Hard wrote:
I introduced Stewart into this discussion because this thread had become a little boring! Laughing I do not understand why people like to put players in a box and say they have to be a small forward or a shooting guard or whatever. The only question that I ask about every college player that I watch is can she BALL! It is either a yes or no answer.
If a player does not have the athleticism, height, and skill set then that player will not make a WNBA team.
How many of you here have played pickup basketball in your neighborhood playgrounds or parks? When you are choosing teammates you pick players that are good. What you do not do is tell person A that she is small forward and person B that she is the center. You just play basketball! You play to win! PERIOD.


Holy crap a voice of reason! Shocked



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PostPosted: 12/05/13 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
dynasty0207 wrote:
I clearly see Stewart's athleticism, ability, and potential. But I think she still needs to develop more on offense/creating her own shot. Or maybe I'm just a bigger Delle Donne fan so I'm being biased; but I'd rather have Elena on my team.


IMO Stewie also must get some more muscle on that body to play well consistently at the next level.


She has gotten bigger already than last year, but you're right. She was so excited when I commented about it and started flexing. Pretty darn funny.



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